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Phones / Re: Apple Identifies Samsung-Products (Phones) To Ban by na2day(m): 4:35pm On Aug 28, 2012
Like i said in the other thread!
The steve Job's thermonuclear war had just been declared! grin

Google Has Had Enough: Files Lawsuit To Ban Multiple Apple Products through Motorola!

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Phones / Re: Apple Identifies Samsung-Products (Phones) To Ban by na2day(m): 4:31pm On Aug 28, 2012
~Bluetooth:


Stop spamming the board.They should pay for the fraud they commited simple.


Don't worry your Apple too is about to receive a kick in the balls! grin

Here is the list of patents they are infringing! grin

The patents:

5,883,580: Patent relates to processing messages in the context of space and time. Motorola says Apple’s location-reminders infringe upon this patent. - Reminiscent of the location reminders in iOS, but this seems to deal with messages. No word about reminders.

5,922,047: Patent relates to communications and control systems for multimedia, particularly “control over a plurality of media applications including telephony, video conferencing, analog video, digital video, and AC power line signaling …” Motorola says the iPhone and iPad infringe on this patent. - Holds water, but seems like an essential patent (the ability to control anything over WiFi)

6,425,002: Patent is for communications devices, ensuring apps installed only receive messages of interest.

6,983,370: This patent relates to continuity between messaging client, particularly the ability to sync messaging capabilities of multiple devices. Motorola says all Apple devices infringe on this patent, except the iPod and Apple TV. - Essentially, iMessage

6,493,673: Patent is for communications devices that are capable of providing interactive services. This involves a prompt, input mechanism and converting audible user input into a text string. - Essentially, Siri, but seems like an essential patent for speech recognition for commands.

7,007,064: Patent discloses an “apparatus and method for obtaining and managing wirelessly communicated content.” - Essentially, iCloud

7,383,983: Patent is for managing content between devices in various domains. The patent also relates to “pausing content in one device and resuming playback of the content in another device.” - Airplay/iCloud

In my personal opinion, these all seem fairly essential patents the current day-and-age. You simply cannot do stuff you expect mobile-connected devices to do without these. (control your wifi-connected media centre with your cell phone etc...) Apple should've licensed them, and should now pay out the arse for them!

This is another story from 'look-and-feel' patents entirely. This is the belly of the beast that is the current patent system: patent every possible application of every new technology. All tech companies do it, Apple does it a lot. I seriously hope something changes. It would not be good for technology if this system continues to run amok.

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Phones / Re: Apple Identifies Samsung-Products (Phones) To Ban by na2day(m): 12:07pm On Aug 28, 2012
joanana: I will never buy the stwepid i - rubbish, not in a million years!!!Android for life They can sue Sammy but they cant stop them!!! Sammy will always be ahead.

Lol grin
I used to think all 9ja girls only care for BB grin
nice to see someone breaking the rule grin

Let's see whether they will succeed!

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Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 11:58am On Aug 28, 2012
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In a Cnet article, one of the "ideas stolen from Motorola" is having the phone's antenna inside the body of the phone. Yes - earthshatteringly innovative!

U.S. Patent No. 5,710,987, which covers a "receiver having concealed external antenna." OK, but it must be some special way of concealing the antenna inside the phone, right?

Um... I may not be reading the patent correctly, but, no. It looks like it's just the idea of putting the phone's antenna inside the body of the phone. Not that they are doing it in some special way or invented some nifty technology to make it work better. Just, plain, antenna inside the body of the phone.

Huh? grin grin grin grin
Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 11:53am On Aug 28, 2012
[size=13pt]Hello All,
The thermonuclear war has started!
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[size=13pt]
Google Has Had Enough: Files Lawsuit To Ban Multiple Apple Products[/size]

[img]http://fs01.androidpit.info/userfiles/1345085/image/Googleenough.png[/img]

I knew this day would come. I can’t say that I hoped for it, but in all honesty, it was inevitable. Apple has been very busy lately in doing all it can to ban as many Android devices as it can, and HTC, Samsung, and Motorola have all recently got a small taste of the Apple juice lately. But something has changed: Google now owns Motorola, and aren’t wasting any time in defending their new acquisition, as they are now seeking a sales ban on the iPhone, iPad, and Mac computers in the US. This time, it’s personal, and contains a twist that could make this particular lawsuit a very dangerous one for Apple.

This is the first case that Google has signed off on in defending their new hardware company, meaning that there’s no more lurking in the background providing support. This is full on Google with their law team directly involved. This isn't Google watching from the sidelines, but instead, they are calling this one play by play. But Google and Motorola were clever, as this isn't a lawsuit that focuses on silly topics such as icons or square shaped tablets.

Google and Motorola are claiming patent infringement for non-standard essential patents. To put it simply, Google-rola has filed a case for a patent that courts cannot legally force companies to license, meaning that if they win this case, Apple could be forced to completely stop using the technology in their devices.

We don’t have confirmation on exactly which Wifi related patent is in question here, but we do know that Motorola attempted to reach licensing agreements with Apple (since 2010), which Apple apparently refused. Motorola stated that:

“We would like to settle these patent matters, but Apple’s unwillingness to work out a license leaves us little choice but to defend ourselves and our engineers’ innovations”.

This is a big one for Google and for Apple. This isn’t just an OEM that Apple is dealing with now. This is one of the most powerful (if not THE most powerful) movers and shakers in the world. If this comes to trial, Apple will have its hands full, and might even be forced to rely on Microsoft for backup.

The patent wars involving Android and Apple have now reached new heights, and with Google in the center, I have a feeling that things could get very very ugly for the companies that have sought to ban Android products.

http://www.androidpit.com/google-vs-apple-android
Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 5:43am On Aug 28, 2012
Abrantie:

Samsung did NOT copy Apple! Samsung came out with no fewer than 3 Touchscreen Candy Bar Smartphone models prior to the iPhone launch.

SGH-Z610 was introduced in January 2006. It was their first effort at producing an intuitive gesture based Touchscreen Multimedia Smartphone. It had a 3.5" screen, rounded corners, horizontal speaker above the screen, and listen to this.... a single ROUND PHYSICAL BUTTON beneath the screen,flanked by two soft buttons. This was obviously preemptive and proves this button style front layout, if anything, belonged to Samsung.

Ol boy, let's try and be factual, most of Samsung's evidence presented in the case are just smokes and mirrors!
Samsung copied big time, and their devices were so nearly identical that Samsung lawyers had a hard time picking them out in court, and so nearly identical that Google warned Samsung about it.
I'm no apple fanboy, in fact i was secretly praying that Samsung should win the case because i can understand the ramifications, if they don't.
Already, Samsung shares have gone down, Google too, took a hit yesterday while Nokia, imagine Nokia! shares went up!
Google made a statement yesterday
“The court of appeals will review both infringement and the validity of the patent claims. Most of these don’t relate to the core Android operating system, and several are being re-examined by the U.S. Patent Office. The mobile industry is moving fast and all players — including newcomers — are building upon ideas that have been around for decades. We work with our partners to give consumers innovative and affordable products, and we don’t want anything to limit that.”
The main issue still remain, everybody copies, even google still deduced it in her statement, [size=13pt]"The mobile industry is moving fast and all players — including newcomers — are building upon ideas that have been around for decades"[/size]
So Apple the number one copier is angry because someone copied their fast selling product, undercutting their sales, they wants Samsung to stop selling their most popular products in the US. Looks like Apple is definitely trying to get rid of the competition.
Shikena! grin


@4llerbuntu, which iphone 4 ad is that?



Already, the jurors goofed, and there are many mistakes in their award, so its likely that the judgement will be overturned, if Samsung team will be able to pull their heads out of their arse and file a correct appeal!

lessons to learn
1. Don't try and fight the enemy in their territory, how did Samsung hope to win a court case in apple's backyard? the jurors were a bunch of ordinary pro-apple people who didn't really give Samsung's claims fair consideration. Isn't the trial court a dozen or so miles from Apple's campus? And the jury are members of that community. My interpretation is compatible with the faster than expected completion of the verdict by this jury! Even the judge Lucy Koh was unashamedly hostile to Samsung. Remember this is the same case the two have been fighting all over the world and the outcome had always been 50-50! Almost all the apple's claims were common sense things that a phone must have. Never trust the American system, it will only benefit the Americans. How can Samsung get a fair trial in Apples back yard?



2. When you are caught pants down, be ready to fight dirty! grin Samsung was basically on the defensive throughout the case while apple was attacking relentlessly. They ought to have hired the service of cut throat lawyers, like, whats the name of that lawyer that got OJ Simpson off murder rap? yeah, people like that, but they went to court like someone going out on a picnic and they were demolished! grin



i will add others later grin

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Politics / Re: Four Charged For Cynthia Osokogu's Murder by na2day(m): 8:40pm On Aug 27, 2012
babaGod1: ROHYPNOL OR HYPNODORM
Rohypnol (Hypnodorm) is a tranquilliser about 10 times more potent than Valium. The drug is available as a white or olive-green pill and is usually sold in the manufacturer’s bubble packaging. Users crush the pills and snort the powder, sprinkle it on marijuana and smoke it, dissolve it in a drink or inject it.

Brand name
Á Hypnodorm

Street names

A forget-me pill
B Mexican Valium
C R2
D Roche
E roofies
F roofinol
G rope
H rophies

ROHYPNOL EFFECTS
Rohypnol has been used to commit sexual assaults because it renders the victim incapable of resisting, giving it the reputation of a “date-rape” drug.

Rohypnol users often describe its effects as “paralysing.” The effect starts 20 to 30 minutes after taking the drug, peak within 2 hours and may persist for 8 or even 12 hours. A person can be so incapacitated (made unable to act) they collapse. They lie on the floor, eyes open, able to observe events but completely unable to move. Afterwards, memory is impaired and they cannot recall any of what happened. The person experiences loss of muscle control, confusion, drowsiness and amnesia. Rohypnol is sold in Europe, Latin America and Australia as a sleeping pill, but it is illegal in the United States. In Australia, it is sold as
Hypnodorm.

to really appreciate the effect of this powerful drugs, you guys should watch a film titled THE HANGOVER!
It's crazy
Politics / Re: Four Charged For Cynthia Osokogu's Murder by na2day(m): 6:48pm On Aug 27, 2012


The judiciary needs to make a public example out of these people,
Nothing less than facing the firing squad at the bar beach will get the message across
i.e. it's no longer business as usual! angry
Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 10:25pm On Aug 26, 2012
[size=13pt]For all the samsung lovers and Apple haters, here is something funny from all these wahala![/size] grin


"Best billion dollar ad-campaign Samsung ever had."

I can't make this stuff up

I'm sitting in a Starbucks doing random whatever over an iced americano. While I waiting for my drink, I watched a guy with his friend, pick up a newspaper; and start to remark on the Samsung Apple verdict.

Guy: "Wait, so what they're saying is, Samsung is the same as Apple?"
Friend: "I know, right? Makes me think twice about how much I paid for my Mac Book"
Guy: "Seriously"

Not 10 minutes later, a husband and wife, same newspaper:

Husband: "... Samsung's iPad is the same as Apple's iPad, and I paid how much for the Apple one? Honey, I told you they were a ripoff", after looking up the Samsung tablet on his iPhone.
Wife: "Oh wow," looking at the screen, "... that's a lot cheaper. Think we can return it?"

I put my Samsung QX410 on my table, and started to plug in, when he leans over to me, "Sorry, you don't mind if I ask, how much did you pay for your Samsung laptop?"



"Oh, no worries, it was $700." I replied.

I watched shock overcome his face, like actual shock. He looked at me, blankly, for an awkward amount of time, "Mind if I have a look?" he asked.

So, I obliged, and showed him a few things. He commented on Windows 7, so I opened up my virtual machine of OS/X... By the time the conversation was over, he was ready to kick Cupertino in the nuts, I think.

... Now, the punchline:

I'm writing this post after the FOURTH group of Starbucks patrons have made the connection that Samsung is now the same as Apple. They don't know the details, they don't really care, what they know is Apple is saying that Samsung is the same as Apple ... and with one simple Google Search, you get prices that are basically half for what seems to be the same products -- for nearly everything.

Two of these groups (including the husband/wife) asked me about my Samsung laptop, the second group noticed my Galaxy phone (also by Samsung)... Best billion dollar ad-campaign Samsung ever had.
-Enrique Gutierrez-
Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 9:54pm On Aug 26, 2012
Apple has never been an innovator. Apple did not create any of the markets it is currently in. Desktops, laptops, media players. smartphones, and tablets all existed well before Apple touched them. The original Mac had design roots in Xerox PARC and the Smalltalk operating environment (and I believe Apple hired a bunch of the PARC folks to work on the Mac.)

Xerox had the bright idea. Apple turned the idea into a salable product.

What Apple has been good at is refining concepts. Jobs and Apple had a total focus on the user experience, and it showed. In general, Apple products behave as the user expects them to, and icon clicks, button presses, and menu choices do pretty much what the user thinks they will do. Apple has touted ease of use almost from the beginning, and their focus on UX has largely provided it. The infamous “walled garden” is in service of that approach – Apple is fanatical about UX, and imposes standards apps must meet. Apple users do not see this as a problem, because they can get Apple certified apps that do anything they need to do.



But Samsung fuc.kup sha!
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Apple’s beef with Samsung is that Apple was selling products, and then Samsung came out with nearly identical products with better specs and at a cheaper price, na sand sand for garri be that naa!
Anyway, Google warned Samsung about it but chinko will be chinko (Koreans too are chinko!)!
Na vendetta be that! grin
On a serious note, all these non algorithm patents should be scrapped! angry

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Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 9:36pm On Aug 26, 2012
No one is disputing the fact that Samsung copied apple!
Every one copies!
Sony too should slam apple with litigation for getting inspiration for iphone from them!



“In February 2006, before the claimed iPhone design was conceived, Apple executive Tony Fadell circulated a news article to Steve Jobs, Jonathan Ive and others. In the article, a Sony designer discussed Sony designs for portable electronic devices that lacked buttons and other ‘excessive ornamentation,’ fit in the hand, were ‘square with a screen’ and had ‘corners [which] have been rounded out,’” the document explains. An Apple industrial designer, Shin Nishibori, then mocked up the design, even using Sony’s logo on the back of the CAD drawing.

According to Nishibori’s testimony, his design changed the course of the iPhone project, and pointed it toward the iPhone of today.

This isn’t speculation – an Apple employee copied Sony’s design, circulated it to his bosses, and this evidence was disallowed in court.

From now on, when anyone heaps phrase on Apple’s design excellence and superlative innovation, just point and laugh. Some of us have been saying for years that what Apple is really good at is ripping off other peoples’ ideas and stealing the credit for them with slick marketing. This, right here, is the proof.

Steve Jobs once said "Good artists copy; great artists steal" and "We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas." So it's not surprising that Apple, now gloating over winning in the patent war with Samsung, over the look of its iPhone and iPad might have borrowed the iPhone's design from another company: Sony.

In an Apple's world, Ford would have the patent of:
- Four Wheels attached to a metal structure;
- A metal box with doors;
- Two tires that turn simultaneously;
- A mechanism that allows wheels to stop spinning;
- Rectangular pieces of glass.

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Politics / Re: The Heroes Of Biafra(part 1) Lt Col Rolf Steiner Of Biafra 4th Commando by na2day(m): 6:31pm On Aug 26, 2012
naptu2: Rolf Steiner, 4th Biafran Commando Brigade.


Steiner was the stuff of legend. Born in Germany in 1933, he enlisted in the French Foreign Legion when he turned 17.

Steiner originally served in Viet Nam against the Viet Minh, then in Algeria against the FLN, but was dismissed from the Legion after his membership in the anti-government OAS was revealed.


While living in France, he heard of the Biafran cause, and enlisted with their army following independence, becoming a Biafran citizen in the process. Unlike other Soldiers of Fortune, Steiner was passionate about Biafra, and did not receive any pay for his efforts beyond room and board. After achieving a level of success and rising to the level of Lt. Colonel in the Biafran Army, he eventually quarreled with President Ojukwu and his staff. Some say it was driven by jealousy from other Biafran commanders, who resented the preferential treatment given Steiner. Steiner was dismissed along with five other mercenaries and led out of the country in handcuffs.


He later organized and led rebel Anya-Nya Christian forces in the Sudan, because of his belief in their plight, doing so for very little pay. He was arrested while traveling back through Kampala, Uganda and flown to Khartoum, Sudan, where he was imprisoned. After being beaten and sadistically tortured for three years, he was finally released following pressure by the West German government.

His autobiography, The Last Adventurer, was published in the 1970s. It is a fascinating read if you can find a copy.

http://www.myspace.com/rememberbiafra

you missed a point!
He started his adventure as member of Hitler youths that stood against the Russian horde during the last days of ww2 grin
Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 4:27pm On Aug 25, 2012
I read this somewhere, i think its very fitting! smiley

If you look at history everything ever related to an art is copied. Musicians copy other musicians and are applauded for it. Painters use the styles of previous painters to help their own works. There is the saying that saying that all stories ever told are really just variations of only seven unique stories. (Overcoming the Monster, Rags to Riches, Voyage and Return, The Quest, Comedy, Tragedy, Rebirth)

I say this because the underlying question is here is what shouldn't be copied? What justifies something being so unique that a company could have the right to the use of it? Are there a set number of unique features that these products are forced to adhere to simply because there is nothing else that works?

Well lets take a look at phones and tablets in general and think about how, if we were a new company and trying to create a product for the market, we could design a tablet that would be the best thing out there under current technological restraints.

So here we go with phones. What should the case look like? Well it needs to be small enough to fit in an average pocket but big enough to see everything clearly. In fact we have such a small space to work with it would be best if the screen takes up the most space possible. Ok what resolution should the screen be? Well we only have two common video formats that will fill a screen completely, 16:9 and 4:3. We should choose 16:9 because it is the most common HD video format. Alright so we have our basic shape, its a rectangle at 16:9 aspect ratio.

Ok, now we need to put the ear speaker somewhere. We don't exactly have the technology to put the ear speaker behind the glass just yet so lets extend the top of the phone as little as possible for the ear speaker. Now we need to decide if we have any physical buttons on the phone. The most important of course is the power button. We can either put it on the side of the phone or extend the bottom of the phone down to compensate. Volume is next, the user needs a way to quickly turn up or down the volume on the phone. That goes on the side of the phone because it is not a common button when the device is in use.

A home button might be useful in case the user is in an app and wants to get out of it. Maybe a back button too. Extend the bottom of the phone down to include these.

Now what is the UI going to look like? The user is going to download apps so they need access to them. We could either give them a text list or a grid view of these items and their icons. Should we give them access to a space where the most common apps are used? Lets put in a quick launch space.

The user is going to download a lot of apps though. How do we compensate for this? Well we should have a user be able to paginate through the said list or grid using touch.

If you got this far I think you can see where I am going. We are currently limited to only a few unique variations in these products. While the art that surrounds these variations can look different, in the end they really are all just the same. It is how a company combines these features and the art to make something unique.

Lets go back to the initial question of what should be allowed to be patented? This is a very tough question because it really is down to what you personally think is unique. I can't speak for hardware, but I can for the design of the software. There is little variation in the basic attributes of phones that should never be patented, such as the much talked about rectangle with rounded edges thing. The basic look of the user interface is limited. If you look at Metro, which is the most innovative user interface as of late (note innovative does not mean better), it really isn't that different from what I talked about before. It is just a grid layout of app icons and text.

I've tried to come to a conclusion on something unique that could be patented but it's hard to do it. Logos should definitely be, but in a world where minimalism is the key to the best experience, its hard to imagine how anyone could design something unique. In the end its really all down to who has the better product. Zynga is a great example. They copied everyone and now they are about to go bankrupt because everyone knew theirs was the shittier product.

It's hard to design a unique phone or tablet. Try designing one in your head. You always come to the same approximate solutions because we are inherently limited to them. Products will sell themselves, and we as consumers should know that copying only helps us. It's all about who combines those copies the best that makes something good, and that's the way its always been throughout history. Logos and product branding should definitely be patented, but we have to realize how not unique some of these features are.

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Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 3:49pm On Aug 25, 2012
Reading the report of the verdict doesn't convince me that Samsung should have lost. It only convinces me that the patent system is seriously screwed up. I do support software patents, but only in the context of algorithms or something that requires cleverness, and about how you do something, not the goal of the something. For example, in computer vision I can understand patenting a particular algorithm that does edge detection. I can't support patenting the concept of edge detection.

Most of these items in the report are concepts and obvious. There is nothing clever. Just look at that report. It's mostly just user-friendliness. Is putting the "loading" text in the center of the screen seriously patentable? That's outrageous. Let's go through them:

- Landscape mode should be supported in both directions.
- Move "loading" text for Youtube to center of screen.
- Need to display the number of web pages.
- Display open number of web pages in browser.
- Brighter icon for visibility.
- Calendar icon updates with actual date
- Modify End Call button to be more convenient.
- Add copy function in browser. (Every browser has this function.)
- Magnifying glass like function for typing text. (Perhaps a little clever, but magnifying glasses have been on computer desktops for a long time.)
- Adjust keyboard button sizes and spacing to produce fewer errors.
- Put wi-fi data on one screen
- Auto-link URLs and numbers. (As is done in most text software on all computers, including MS word.)
- Search button in music player
- Add browsing function to shoot to the top of the web page.
- Auto refresh emails when opened. (Like all email programs do.)
- Add "fun factor" when deleting memo. (OK, this one isn't so obvious, but is having a "fun factor" patentable?)
- Add "fun factor" to map pins. (See above.)
- Make icons look cooler but be sure to differentiate design from iPhone

Seriously, what in this list should even be patentable. It's simple user friendliness about simple things like text location and icon sizes. That is, it is just the same old "look and feel" argument that Apple has been trying to force for decades.

The Samsung report looks to me like any report on user friendliness for any piece of software or hardware to improve the next version. Is it patentable if a car company puts a GPS in a car?

Anyone who thinks Apple doesn't have documents comparing their products to competitors, with the same sort of directions, is ignorant. i.e, iOS now has pull down notifications instead of a stupid popup. grin

of course, they do! like the document showing Apple taking elements of Sony products and using them as inspiration in the iPhone. The judge didn't allow Samsung to present that in court. This will be part of their appeal.

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Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 3:27pm On Aug 25, 2012
This isn't all that new for the company.
I believe Apple sued Microsoft in '95 for having a GUI (Graphical User Interface)! grin

Bill Gate's response to that was amazing. The story (told by someone allegedly at the meeting) goes that Steve Jobs held a meeting and Bill Gates was invited. When Jobs had these meetings everyone knew that shit was going to go down, and you didn't want to be there. So Bill Gates shows up and Steve Jobs spends the first few minutes just laying into him shouting and screaming. Gates sat there impassively, and when Jobs was done he responded, “Well, Steve, I think there’s more than one way of looking at it. I think it’s more like we both had this rich neighbor named Xerox and I broke into his house to steal the TV set and found out that you had already stolen it.”

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Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 11:12am On Aug 25, 2012
What is Google waiting for?
They should sue Apple's ar.se for copying Google’s notification window?
Thief wey dey call others thief! grin
Anyway be prepared for more wars like this! grin

I’m sorry but patents like pinch/tap to zoom make absolutely no sense. What other type of operation could reasonably serve this function? Patents on functions that are imperative to how smarthpones work are just ridiculous

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Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 11:03am On Aug 25, 2012
kingsilly:



GUY WETIN U SMOKE DIZ MORNING

grin grin grin grin
That was supposed to be funny enh! grin
You still dont get the joke
Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 6:01am On Aug 25, 2012
What Samsung needs to do is just drop TouchWiz and use AOSP. It wouldn’t even take any time to switch over existing phones (as an option) to avoid bans. Samsung actually leaves the Android launcher on their phones and you can switch to it freely.

That’s the thing that saddened me about this case. Those PHONES do not violate Apple’s real patents. TouchWiz does.
Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 5:59am On Aug 25, 2012
puskin: Can someone please remind me how much is Naija budget?........that a Korean coy is going to pay an American coy $1.05 billion.
Thats why we still have along way to go! grin
Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 5:58am On Aug 25, 2012
The jurors,
I won’t be surprised if they just leap to the final verdict and short circuited the process. come on … $1 billion for these infringement which is none core to a phone?

And moreover, they didn’t even acknowledge any infringement on the part of Apple? I suspect that nationalism and fanboism has a part to play in this verdict since it is trial by jury. It would be interesting to see how the court cases in other country turns out. Just recently, South Korea ban BOTH Apple and Samsung handset because of mutual infringement, which is a fairer verdict (although I would argue the case of bounce back feature … a patent for THAT?!!!). And moreover, they conclude that there was NO infringement on the design patent, which is simply common sense

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Phones / Re: Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 4:26am On Aug 25, 2012


"So, what can Samsung do?"

Triangle-shaped phones! grin

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Phones / Samsung To Pay Apple $1.05B for Patent-Infringement by na2day(m): 4:20am On Aug 25, 2012
[size=13pt]$1.05 Billion Damages, Apple Just Obliterated Samsung - What Happens Now?[/size]



If you were following our apple Samsung court case, you'll know that the outcome of Apple v. Samsung was basically really, really bad for Samsung. To the tune of slightly over a billion dollars. Yikes. Samsung did escape any successful allegations of infringement through its tablets, but on the smartphone front, they really did get destroyed.

Samsung was found to infringe on two major iPhone design patents on almost every device Apple accused, including the D'677 patent, which covers the front fascia of the iPhone, pictured below. They also successfully asserted that Samsung infringed the design and layout of the iPhone's homescreen, another design patent. And pretty much every Samsung phone was found to infringe all three of Apple's asserted software patents.



In addition, Samsung was found to have diluted the trade dress for the iPhone (in general) as well as specifically for the iPhone 3G. Trade dress is basically how a product is "branded" through its design elements as a whole - so that consumers know who makes particular product. A design patent, by comparison, is a way to protect unique ornamental elements of a product. Dilution is a fancy way of saying "our famous brand was damaged because you sold lookalikes to consumers." Here's Apple's asserted (unregistered, more broad) trade dress for the iPhone.



Trade dress dilution carries the same remedies as trademark infringement, and this can include recovery of lost profits (the big one), as well as injunctive relief (product bans). Design patents carry similar remedies, so there's lots of overlap. Apple can't "double dip" and claim lost profits from both, though. After all, Samsung only profited once each time it sold an allegedly infringing or diluting product. But that does mean that even if Apple's design patents are invalidated on appeal, that the dilution claims could stand in their place for damages purposes. Or, vice versa.

[size=13pt]Appeals And Consequences[/size]

As for the whole appeals thing? Don't let anyone tell you that "the verdict doesn't matter." They're wrong. The verdict matters hugely. The jury decided that Samsung infringed and diluted, and those are findings of fact. An appeals court cannot overturn findings of fact unless "no reasonable jury" could have arrived at those conclusions. I'll tell you right now: that's not going to happen (it is exceedingly rare).

What Samsung can appeal are matters of law. These include findings on the validity of patents and protectability (like validity) of trade dress. Samsung will certainly appeal these issues, but the jury already decided that Apple's patents were valid, and its trade dress protectable. Appellate judges are rarely keen to argue with a jury's findings. And frankly, don't get your hopes up here, either, especially on the patents. Apple's D'677 patent has already survived the scrutiny of Judge Koh as having no "reasonable likelihood" of invalidity.

Samsung can also appeal some issues related to damages (such as how they're calculated), but that's getting into a fairly complex area of the law. As for excluded evidence, Samsung can appeal Judge Koh's refusal to include testimony or evidence, but that is decided as a matter of abuse of judicial discretion - an extremely high bar to meet. Samsung would have to prove Judge Koh failed in her duties as a judge, and that no reasonable judge could have come to the decision she did. Much like invalidating a jury verdict, this is a long-shot at best.

Suffice to say, Samsung's appeals docket will probably be pretty long. How much good will it do? Just know that the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has a little over 10% rate of overturning district court decisions. Better than some circuits, but it doesn't take a genius to see those aren't good odds. Considering the parties haven't settled by now (and Samsung won on zero counts), it's unlikely Apple will be interested in compromising in exchange for Samsung foregoing an appeal. At this point, they're in it to hurt Samsung, as they've made clear.

So, what can Samsung do? For one, it needs to remove all the infringing software functions from its phones claimed in Apple's software patents. Second, it probably needs to evaluate the future of its TouchWiz UI, and the design of its phones in general. It has not been a good day for Samsung, and while it's totally reasonable to disagree with the principles that allow Apple to make its allegations, or with Apple's attitude toward Android in general, it's not hard to see how a lay jury could find the way it did.

We'll be keeping you up to date on the appeal, and the next Apple v. Samsung case, also scheduled in California's Northern District, in the coming months.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/08/24/apple-just-obliterated-samsung-what-happens-now/
Politics / Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by na2day(m): 10:56pm On Aug 24, 2012
Shollypopz:
I was talking to na2day!

Nope!
Should I?
Politics / Re: Am Alive Today All Because Of I Denied Myself Of Being A Christain... by na2day(m): 10:35pm On Aug 24, 2012
CHouse: @na2day

STFU dawg with the gibberish diction, i've survived 3 bloody Jos crisis in dangerous zones but thanks to instincts plus God Almighty, not as much as a string of my hair got pulled. Last one was prior to Yaradua's death so should i blame him for that since he was the C.I.C. Some soldiers purposely murdered innocent folks who didn't share their affilliation during dat crisis. What's the point? That asinine brother of yours attached to the preski was just a fragment of a bigger failed religion and cultural institution which had clouded his chicken brain that allegiance should be service delivery first, then religion after. Did the president authorized him to be a bully? Instead of you to castigate the cow, you were busy making jest of the victim. You are no different dumbo...well what else can i say, a cow is a cow.

I don't believe i just read this, you are a reta.rded fool,
With people like you around, Nigeria deserves whatever it gets, the day you guys starts demanding better accountability from your leaders, maybe they will stop using you as a yearly sacrifice.
If this kind of thinking is what you still have, after your purported experience, then i must confess that your escape is a waste!
Politics / Re: Am Alive Today All Because Of I Denied Myself Of Being A Christain... by na2day(m): 10:26pm On Aug 24, 2012
In a civilized environment, when someone commits a crime in your name, you are culpable!
A presidential guard bragging about killing harmless civilian and threatening to kill again!
And some people here are saying the president doesn't know him?
I'm sure the guy will even be commended for doing his work, killing Boko Haram, mtshew! angry
Politics / Re: Tinubu Bow-Greeting Buhari (Picture): Slavery Or Respect? by na2day(m): 10:10pm On Aug 24, 2012
Why are you guys responding to a nobody who wants to become a somebody on nairaland!

Malawian: who told you i hate yorubas? Go to ekpoma and ask for malawian, when i was there, i squatted a yoruba boy in my room for 3 yrs and he did not pay a kobo. ( Before G*D and man ). Just over a month ago, i gave out one of my appartments to a yoruba woman. Go to sumya junior grammer sch and ask for mrs alade. Most of my hommies are yoruba, In fact, my first girlfriend was even yoruba. This is nairaland. We Choose our sides and attack for fun. When we log off, we return to normal gringrin. Fratternisation is over, Now answer my questions.


From the post above, you guys should know this guy is seeking for fame!
Unfortunately he is going about it the cowardly way, attacking another person's culture!
Abegi, let him stew in his stupidity!
Omo alaileko! angry

As they always say "the easiest way to fame, attack someone on top!"

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Politics / Re: Am Alive Today All Because Of I Denied Myself Of Being A Christain... by na2day(m): 9:37pm On Aug 24, 2012
CHouse:

I'm not sorry to say but you sounded like a fool. This guy is a christian who had to deny his faith for survival sake in the face of violent religion fundamentalists. So what exactly do you mean by he shouldn't vote along tribal or religious line? Oh i get, that the victim can only feel safe and be at peace when adherents with violent doctrines like the dumb security fella are in power? Neega please!!! By the way don't put that occurence on Goodluck's head. GEJ is an a$$hole but that unpolished security dude was responsible for his own stupid action. It's a shame

See a dic.khead calling someone a fool, i'm sure you didnt even read the article, you retar.ded dum.bfu.ck!

Thinking that his assailant was a police man, Peter went to the office of the Inspector General of Police to make a report only to learn that the man was not in the Nigerian Police Force. With the description of what the men wore, black jeans and T-shirt with bullet proof jacket with SF boldly inscribed on it, [size=13pt]the officer who attended to Peter in the IG’s office was able to conclude that they were men specially trained to protect the president.[/size]

Was ur dum.bluck the first president, why is it that, only in his tenure that unarmed civilian have become expendable dish rag!
I'm sure the hired gun is not a stranger to taking innocent's lives! angry
from his rants against the guy angry
You can continue with ur brainless head under the sand like a cretinous ostrich! stupid paid hack, your own too is coming, and when it comes, heaven helps if you come here, crying like a baby that your pet crocodile has just swallowed your balls angry

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Politics / Re: Am Alive Today All Because Of I Denied Myself Of Being A Christain... by na2day(m): 5:00pm On Aug 24, 2012
My only advice, vote wisely when 2015 comes!
If you like, you can vote along religion or tribal affiliation again, enh? angry

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Crime / Re: How We Killed Cynthia Osukogu — Suspects (Pix) by na2day(m): 3:15am On Aug 23, 2012
[size=13pt]The items recovered from the suspects are seven driving licences (three belonging to Ezekiel, four belonging to Okumo with different names); the deceased’s belongings, including her shoes(found in Okumo’s house); 17 mobile phones, two Diamond Bank rubber stamps, two syringes, a pack of Ribena, 22 SIM cards, a chain, 12 debit and credit cards.[/size]

angry angry angry angry

I swear, those guys are serial criminals, in my own court they are already guilty as he.ll!
Crime / Re: How We Killed Cynthia Osukogu — Suspects (Pix) by na2day(m): 2:44am On Aug 23, 2012
tpia@:
i still dont quite understand hjatz version.

(where's the source btw).

where did the funds they used to pay for her ticket and hotel room come from?



Go back to the first page,
other sources has been added to the original post.
Crime / Re: How We Killed Cynthia Osukogu — Suspects (Pix) by na2day(m): 2:15am On Aug 23, 2012

Ezekiel Nnechuwu and Olisa Eloka

better pix of the accused, we wan see their front sha!
Crime / Re: How We Killed Cynthia Osukogu — Suspects (Pix) by na2day(m): 7:24pm On Aug 22, 2012
To all the parents out there,
Its not perfect but its still useful!
I think there's a need to invest in gps tracker for the children,
It should be installed secretly in the shoes, watch e.t.c
Really wished the general had caught the two maniacs in action! angry angry angry

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