₦airaland Forum

Tetehjewels:
A lot of you are ignorant and understandably so. The constitution is valid on the grounds of a removal and not on the grounds of a suspension.

In this regard there is no limitation placed on the President in terms of suspension. He is only limited in terms of removal.

That is the legal loophole taken advantage of and it is extremely legal to exploit since he by law did not Remove but also by law, Suspended

You are speaking nonsense.

Can the President suspend a sitting Governor?

NgeneUkwenu:
Na night school you go? How can order to stop a further continuation of a case amounts to suspension of an earlier actions carried out by the said Tribunal?

The order of the COA suspended all activities and orders of the CCT.

By the way, the CCT does not even have the powers to suspend any judge at any point. So that point is even null.

If we can't move beyond this, I think I will pass. Can't continue to do back and forth that is meaningless.

pinacole1:
I heared u well. May be u dnt understand the constitution of the federal republic of Nigeria upon which all other laws derive their source. The ccb or cct is a direct creation of the constitution to hear matter of this kind, of course no other court orders can stop the proceedings of the cct cos is different from the regular court of law. However justice danladi gave an order on Wed. 23 dat onnoghen shud step outside tI'll the completion of trial, that exactly where the president has the power to effect the suspension, take note suspension not removal, cos in the eyes of the law suspension is different from removal. Ok

Please don't say we had you do not know.

The CCT has powers equal to a Federal high court. It is not a special court. There are no special courts in Nigeria. It is bound to obey the order of superior court. The Appeal court is clearly superior to it.

In fact, the chairman of CCT 2 days ago clearly said what I just wrote above himself.

Again, plzz don't say want you don't know again

NgeneUkwenu:
The CCT order you clearly saw on the 1st page was issued on the 23rd of January when the Tribunal sat
Was yesterday 23rd?

The order of the COA is binding on all persons and entity in Nigeria, and this includes any order that has emanated or will emanate from the CCT.

Extremely ignorant, chap feeling funky.

Did you read what you posted here. I mean properly.

By the way, do you undertand what the constitution is and why any other law is null and void to the extent of their inconsistency with the constitution

CoolAmbience:
You are ignorant my friend, very ignorant.

Enlighten me, your Lordship

Before you do so plzz think hard and Long.
I do not usually take prisoners

akdjr:
What was their reaction when Ayo Salami was kicked out of office same with Lamido Sanusi.

I believe Salami was removed on the recommendation of the NJC. No?

Why are you equating it with this?

Can you guys just jettison your political persuasions for once and THINK??

NgeneUkwenu:
When did the Appeal Court issue the order?

Which section of the Constitution talks about the process of suspending The Chief Justice?

Thank You!

The Court of Appeal gave the order yesterday.

Start with Section 292, subsection 2.

I will be expecting your response after checking these info

Like I have said in previous threads, Buhari has throw the nation into a serious constitutional crisis which could snowball into questioning the very existence of this nation. It is the most stupid decision ever taken by a head of state that I can remember.

And I support groups and states to reject the authority of the President. He has by this very act lost legimacy in my view. An impeachment procedure should also start forthwith. Hopefully, this stupidity would not lead to severe violence- that's one thing am against.

We must not allow this to stand. If we do, we are done.

The CCT or the Supreme Court itself cannot give an order suspending or removing a judge. It has no such powers. The constitution is CLEAR on how a judge can be removed or suspended even when they CONTRAVENE code of conduct: through recommendation of the NJC or 2/3 majority of Senate.

Moreover, this same CCT has bee ordered to stay proceedings by a superior court- the Court of Appeal.

Good try.

helinues:
Still not Buhari that fires him directly. That's the point

Only the NJC can do so. Eve the Supreme court itself does not have such powers

helinues:
And what about Onnoghen?

What about him?

Was his suspension recommended by NJC?

A full blown constitutional crisis is on our hands in Nigeria now. And with it serious consequences on Nigeria security and very existence.

By the way, as stated by the Premium Times article quoted, the President has no right to remove or even suspend any judge talkless of the CJN

bayarobk:
He was not removed but suspended pending the conclusion of his trial

There is no difference.

seunmsg:
Are you disputing the fact that CCT gave an order suspending the CJN or what? If you are not aware of the order, go and search for it. I cannot spoon feed you my friend.

Again, please note that the CJN was not removed but suspended. The interpretation act gives the president power to suspend anybody he appointed. Jonathan relied on same argument to suspend Joseph Sanusi as CBN governor even though their is a constitutional provision that a CBN governor can only be removed on an address by the senate.

I do not know of any such order. Any ways, it does not matter cos the CCT has no such powers. The constitution is CLEAR on how a judge can be removed EVEN IF HE CONTRAVENES CODE OF CONDUCT. That was the clear statement in the constitution.

Moreover, the CCT has been suspended by the Court of Appeal. You do know that the COA is higher than the CCT right??

And please dont quote any malaction of former President Jonathan when am arguing a point. I know it is a favourite fallback of you guys. I never supportwd everything GEJ did and you know that.

wirinet:
Who will burn the country? Who is ready to take up arms to fight for Onnoghen?

Only the immunity of governors and president are sacrosanct, other government officials are not, especially appointed civil or public servants.
There are so many loopholes that can be exploited. Jonathan exploited the Financial Regulatory commission (can't remember the exact acronym now) to remove Sanusi. The CCB also can recommend the suspension of any officer.

All these will go to court and be subject to judicial interpretation, meanwhile the damage had been done.

You have no argument legally speaking, my friend. And you know that.

As for the consequence, wait and see. I will quote you when it starts. We are now in full blown anarchy. And it is so unfortunate.

discusant:
He has no right to suspend the CJN.

Where was procedures for Suspension of the CJN mentioned in the Constitution?

Good question.

Tetehjewels:
Your entire argument is useless and null and void.

Buhari has the power to SUSPEND and not REMOVE.

Your argument talks about removal.

Buhari by virtue of the constitution can suspend the CJN and he has done just that.

Which law, certainly not the constitution , says the President has the power to suspend a justice of the supreme court or even a magistrate court.

You guys should be ashamed of yourselves for supporting this coup in any way.

helinues:
Yes he does. If you can appoint , you can fire


Though not supporting this wuru wuru

Don't be silly. Did you read the part of constitution in the OP.

Or you have another constitution we dont know about.

Even for contravention of code of co duct, the constitution is CLEAR on how the CJN can be removed.

By the way, the President only appoints upon the recommendation of the NJC. The same body the constitution clearly says has the power to recommend a removal or suspension.

somehow:
Show us via the Constitution

You should own a copy. Check it youself

seunmsg:
The CCT is a competent constitutional court and the ruling of the court must be obeyed irrespective of how dumb or stupid the ruling appears to you. If Buhari fails to act on the ruling, people like you would come and accuse him of disobeying court orders. If Onnoghen is not satisfied, he should simply proceed to the appeal court and get the ruling reversed. Till then, he remains suspended.

I asked you when the CCT sat and gave such order cos I know they adjourned their sitting. Moreover, the CCT has been restrained by the Court of Appeal , which is a superior court, they cannot therefore give an lawful order. Buhari cannot discourtenance a superior court order for that of a lower court.

All of this is besides the point, that the CCT or any court for that matter cannot even remove or suspend a serving CJN. The constitution was clear on the 3 ways a serving justice of Nigeria can be removed.

My previous post appealed to the good in you- a side I assumed should be unaffected by your political views or persuasion. Maybe I should not have tried.

Know this tho: there will be serious consequences for this silly move by the political rascals in the Presidency.

seunmsg:
The president acted based on an order of the CCT. The interpretation act also gives the president power to suspend a person he appointed. Onnoghen can go to court if he’s not satisfied. Till then, he remains suspended.

An order of CCT CANNOT remove or suspend a CJN. They ha e no such powers. Only the NJC or the Senate has such powers. Except the CJN resigns himself. This is the constitution. It is unambiguous.

Moreover, when did the CCT go e such an order. The CCT is not sitting at the moment and have been restrained by the Court of Appeal.

I need you to think about how extremely dangerous this is. Even if you think it serves your political purpose now. Some things should be beyond politics. I expect t that some of you here should know that.

wirinet:
A governor has constitutional immunity, there is nothing Buhari can do even if the governor rapes his mother. It is after he his removed as governor before he can be arrested and prosecuted. A CJN has no such immunity.

Yes we have laws, but the laws are subject to different interpretations.

Are you telling us that we should burn down the country because of the suspension of the CJN?

What are you talking about?

Immunity is a constitutional provision which says a person cannot be prosecuted while in office. The CJN does not have such protection and that is why he is bee prosecuted in the courts while in office.

The same constitution has also stipulated the ways by which a CJN can be suspended or removed from office and expressly forbids the executive to do so except on the recommendation of the NJC. This was expressly stated in the constitution. Just like with immunity of Govs there are no other interpretation.

The President, if this news is true , has commuted a grave misconduct to the constitution and this will not stand.

And yes this will certainly lead to this country try burning if true. If you think some forces will take this you are only dreaming.

By the way when did CCT give such an order. The CCT is not sitting and has even been restricted by a superior court- the Court of Appeal.

rexwalters:
Get your one way bus ticket to Accra Ghana,we will see again in 2023,he who fights and runs away lives to fight another day.

You are running your mouth any how on the internet.

When it starts, and it will soon start, don't run away.

I will remind you

gabbytabby:
He is not sacked but one would think if he is under significant criminal investigation he could be suspended pending the outcome of the investigation.

I find it funny that he can choose not to convene anNJC meeting indefinitely.

Did the Gov of Kano resign after we saw him stuff dollars collected as bribe in babariga.

There is a reason we have laws and the constitution.

If this news is true, wait for the consequences. Cos Buhari and his minions would have bought serious market.

Not possible..... Buhari and his minions cannot be that stupid.

There are only 3 ways a serving CJN can leave office:

1. Removal by Prs5odent on the recommendation of the NJC.
2. Impeachment by the Senate.
3. Resignation by the CJN.

There are no other way.

And like I said: Buhari is not that stupid.

Lolz....funny news

When did CCT give the order. A court that is on recess and one that has bee restrained by the Court of Appeal. He does not even have such powers even if CCT gave such an order. Only the NJC and S3nate can remove a CJN.

If this is true, then Buhari and his minions wants to plug this country to anarchy.

Altho am sure it will not stand.

This useless Gov, owing workers months of their salaries and abandoned road projects everywhere in Ibadan, is advising people on who to vote.

SMDH

Such a pity.

Buhari....SMDH

Can people just not turn this beautiful thread to "tribal" fights. And just imagine what are powerful incubation system the Economist was talking about.

An example of the resilience of the Nigerian spirit. A fact that is so ironic compared to the terrible shenanigans of successive Govts.

I will keep saying this and this is not been political:

Buhari is the most useless Leader Nigerian ever had, and hopefully will ever have.

SalamRushdie:
Atiku messed up ..once again he has slowed us down ..we had everything going for us this week till he messed up

Exactly!!!

He played right into the hands of those clowns in APC.

Such a pity.