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[quote author=Lord_Reed link=topic=668565.msg8331787#msg8331787 date=1305558687]No need for insults man. This is from one of your brothers so go figure.[/quote]thats why its rubbish, we don't speak lowly of our women let alone make up lies about them, i am northerner i know what im talking about, stop this rubbish

false information, don't believe this f00l

your story is believable why

lol that's what you get for talking to a married women, they wouldn't do that in iboland why asia

you got a white man out of envy for the black men who rejected you for the white, lol i swear you people

there just 3 women

paddy stop messing with hos and get a wife

dejyx:
My very good friend this medium has really helped me.  You mean someone can act like Kufr? "To those guys out there kufr is a word the Qu'ran uses to identify those who denied Allah's favors by not accepting His Dominion and Authority. Kufr thus is an antonym for Iman or disbelief in Allah" Am suprised at you namfav that you can go out in public to declare me kufr? Anyway call me whatever you like it is The Almighty God that has the final say not you namfav.  Imagine what is on your mind? So there are people that are kufr and you are what? Please let the house know.  I thought you were a little different from the "slaugtheres" you are all the same. Carry on with your atrocities and lets see where you will end.

Back to the main issue at hand I will like to let you know this fact I never made up any of these stories.  If someone from Jos is on this forum he or she will testify.  I dont have to make up any stories. Infact what have I said that is made up here. Let the forum know. I have been asking you what is false? what have I made up? point it out instead of insulting. Is it Dogon Nahawa the pictures and videos are there. Is it Ali Kazaure the pictures are there. Is it the capture/colonization of  of Angwan Rogo behind unijos the pictures are there. This is another issue you are making me delve into. The Theory that crises in nothern nigeria is caused for expansion.  

Now my own theory about crises in nothern nigeria like I said is all about ENVY of the notherners I will stick to that.  Another school of thought believe it is based on war of expansion or war for economic might. What is your own theory? You keep on saying government government. Now you are talking about structures that are not put in place. Please say something reasonable.  The big question is why is it in nothern Nigeria  we have Maitasine, Kala Kato, Izala, Boko Haram etc slaughtering innocent youth corpers, burning churches looting markets killing security operatives and rapping women?  The same government that governs nothern Nigeria is the same that governs the south but things like this are not obtainable from where we come from.  Why are you so adamant supporting this kind of heinous crimes.  You should condemn it.  Instead of condemning evil you are calling me Kufr.  Do you think calling me names can get me offended. No way man I am beyond that.  I know what I am and I know what I stand for.

My very good friend some people are going through these threads so as much as possible please try to be articulate.  I have never in my life abuse Islam, I will never abuse Islam. I am fully of the belief that religion is of the mind. God will judge each and every one of us based on our deeds on earth.  My relatives are muslims so I can never condemn any of them infact if I do I am condemning my own blood.

You know what namfav?  You have been brain washed. I now see your problem.  You have been listening to too many of  those sermons that are made to incite you guys  you cant even make a clear judgement of your own. You must have boozed an overdose of that your black concoction that is what is controlling you not your concience any more.  I wish you all the best in your slaughtering spree. It is just a pity.  The whole thing is actually turning to something else. So this is the last you will hear of me. Peace.

let me clear up, i'm not calling you a kufr, in the events there are people who insult our religion, our prophets (as) but they get offended when they are called any name that defines their character, you are a simple hypocrite because you say something which contradicts what you claim to be, to you all hausa are slaughterers as long as they don't agree with you and you think that way you will not get people angry

you are making somethings up, like the names, i have not heard those names being used as i said we observe that we have more good southerners than bad southerners, it is just we have southerners like you come here and speak ill about my people, a few weeks ago my brother in law had to hide for a whole night because of certain threats (they live in the south) not far from they lived some hausa and fulani were attacked, you know i missed on important assignments because of that for a whole week had to call through all hours, i don't understand how we put each other through that, but do i go out and condemn off southerners, no, but i agree that certain sections of the media, certain people from the south come on these platforms to spew their rubbish, to incite more hatred, you are calling me a murderer, do you think it helps when we have people like you? am a convicted murder? what makes you believe i read sermons that call for southerners to be killed? you may come up with your stoopid theories but for as long as we have people like you things will only get worse and worse, you have your own freedom to make conclusions, but remember when you start painting the hausa and fulani under with that brush it makes things dangerous, a person who says is as old as you i expected to know better, but nothing surprises with people in our nation anymore, remember, apparently a southerner can call a northerner a terrorist but not vice versa, is that the envy and priviledge you are talking about?  

calid16:
The same money we give this people when we see them begging is what they use to buy petrol and knife to kills us. Even when i travel to ibadan and am coming out from mosque i make sure i give money and tell my family that they almajiri men and women are suffering and not their fault.
But now we know that the same money we're giving them is what they're using to buy petrol matches and knife to kill us. Even see how yoruba and others muslim who think them too are muslim where burned and destroyed by this animals.

I have noting with this animal people again, they have no soul. See even pastor in maiduguri that was feeding them house was burn and destroy. Don't ever make mistake of giving them money or even work because you will be the first target because nowh know it jealousy that is worrying this illiterate

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=665356.msg8304620#msg8304620 date=1305195243]can u imagine, although it is been time since i last visited maiduguri

so now northern lives have less value than southern lives in nigeria now,.,.,. well i blame our northern leaders in every sense

they allow the media to write rubbish about us and also allow southern leaders to send troops up north to kill us like rams,  

if we voice out, they would say we are violent, so now should we keep quite and allow people just to be killing us ? NO

i was in ibandan sometimes last year, and a fulani man was killed, yet it did not hit the news

but once an igbo man is even bleeding , you would see the WORLD NIGERIA MEDIA voicing out

the sooner we remove PDP and likes of ciroma from the north the better.

this people are just enjoying the money and still not looking for our interest,

where is arewa to voice out for us ? no where, all they do is take money and keep shut

rubbish[/quote]it breaks my heart but it is true, the leaders we have in the north are turning out to be puppets each and every day when things like these happens, look at the comments by yuguda, i don't see how they became helpful, as long as they keep oil flowing they ignore our brothers getting slaughtered, someone has to defend these types of massacres, exactly, the media (from ss and se mostly) writes alot of cr4p, i heard atleast 10 northerners were killed and hurt in reprisal attacks no one even spoke about it, also the media in the north is not doing much we are supposed to investigate these things, it's still our people getting massacred, our leaders in the north have to act like they care or soon we will see serious problems in this country, you know more than 200 children were left orphaned after police massacred their fathers in bauchi in a matter of hours, we see the same thing again and again, this way we are raising our children in a society of anger, it does not look good, the youth in the north wants to get our grievances known but since we are just northerners, we will be ignored anyway many people in the south i wonder when they will value the opinions in the north in a enviroment of peace, do they want things to carry on until they get worse

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=665356.msg8304376#msg8304376 date=1305193069]the story itself makes me so angry at jonathan

i could have swown that he would not do this to his mend militants that kill nigerians in south working for oil companies

well his power will soon go, very soon

how many roiters are in the street and how many did they kill ,.,. rubbish[/quote]they don't regard our lives, 1 southern killed, and they go to kill 5 northerners that is the state, they believe northerners do not value human lives like in maiduguri they were killing people who have wives and children discriminately  it was even on al jazeera many people they kill are not even given trial, of course mend militans are not killed before trial like they do in the north, they give money to the family of the corpers even to mend militans who surrender, will they compensate the people and family of people they abused and killed in custody without a trial? (according to decleration of human rights which the federal government of nigeria respects everyone is innocen until proved guilty by law)

[quote author=Jaidey-one link=topic=663761.msg8303719#msg8303719 date=1305184242]gosh!!! I wonder if this namfav and his hausa brothers would accept the truth. If anyone says the problem is religious u'll attack him. If someone else says it's tribal or political u'll still insult him. Yet u can't give us a good reason why your muslim brothers are killing people and burning properties. If there's a not-so-smart person on this thread then it's you.[/quote]what truth should be accepted, that we hate non-muslims? i speak this with certainty when i say this is nothing to do with hatred for muslims and non-muslims, neither is it tribal maybe in your quarters it is tribal but not in ours, the problem is social caused by the general political enviroment, in real life i don't think i will lose friends who are christian because i am muslim or because i am fulani, but there is a big possiblity friendships will be lost because of disagreement with social structures and the general enviroment of nigerias politics whenever i come across a southerner as a northerner we always avoid politics, we talk about religion, culture etc. but not politics do you know why? we've lived each other for too long with our different tribes/religions but now that religion has been politicised and being used by sections of the media to score points and sympathy why do you think there is a problem these things did not exist years ago just now especialy with the growth of internet where everyone can just go on and spew alot of rubbish on forums, news websites and blogs, even intertainment blogs are used for politics against northerners (e.g linda ikejis blog), and you think we are the ones to blame? please

i can tell you more than 50 innocent people have been killed, that is more than 5 times the number of corpers killed, why does the government think they can fight wrong by doing wrong against anyone, most of them innocent that is the same that happened in maiduguri in '09 where anyone could by shot if working in the streets, b4stards, this is why people are starting to lose hope in the system

dejyx:
As Usual typical of you guys thank God I am not by your side you would have done what is worse than calling me not-so-smart person and insult others as ignoramus. There is no need  for insult it can't help us.  We should try as much as possible to be factual.  I will use Jos as an example for a little explanation.  Please where you think I am wrong point me out thats how it is done.  I have lived in Jos for about 36 years now so there are so many of your type here.  My own is that there is something that muslims are hidding I just dont know what it is.  Here in Jos, you guys call us southerners arne mai shan gia (infidel/outcast that drinks alcohol) they say we are Kapiri mai chin Mushe (pagans that eat unslaughtered meat) unslaughtered meat I think they mean things like bush meat and for that we are not worhty to live even we should be slaughtered with sickles and die while the murders enjoy themselves in paradise. Insulting people means nothing to you namfav when you can slaughter and support slaughtering. I am not surprised you are calling me not-so-smart person. In my religion there is no Gentile and no Jew people are God's creation we don't judge people on earth by saying arne mai shan gia or Kapiri mai chin mushe or gidan Kaurwaye as you people say.  

Any way my friend I am not talking based on media I am talking from experience.  I have been a refugee about three times that is because I lived near angwan rimi after shagari corner here in Jos.  I and many others have had to pack out of that area because we live near muslims.  Jos was so peaceful then we used to send food to muslim brothers during xmas and easter. I used to enjoy sallah celebration because I eat alot of RAM meat during those celebrations and they send us food during sallah. Now all this is history. Let us ask us why.  Lets give a brief summary to this, one friday afternoon 8th sept 2001 Jos was in flames the story was this a lady was passing congo junction where they have there friday prayers but the place was blocked. she was told not to pass the blocked road because it was already time for prayers, the lady insisted she must pass she passed and the whole place set ablaze.  Another crisis in jos was due to the fact that jos north chairman winner was declared, the winner was a Plateau man as against a hausa man instead of the hausas going to the electoral tribunal they started burning christian houses at about 1am in the morining at Ali Kazaure street.  Have you heard of Dogon Nahawa, Retsat and Zot Fulani killed 500 innocent women and children while they were sleeping at night.  The excuse was that people of Dogon Nahawa Retsat and Zot ate fulani mens cows.  I can give you ten (10) lame excuses why crises have been  sparked up in nothern Nigeria infact these excuses are ridiculous.

Any way my friend like I said earlier please feel free to say no to what you think is wrong that I have said instead of insulting.

you are not being factual at all and i come across your type everytime i go on internet, your little story is pathetic and false but there will be your type that will believe that nonsense, as you like to believe, we are not lazy, unwilling to learn, or the other pathetic stereotypes you like to spew, you know what i hate people like you who make things up, lol i don't care what names you are called i have never used those words or hear anyone that i know using those words but if you are acting like kufr you will be call such why do you get offended do you know what it means? you insult our religion and you are offended when you are called kufr, does someone who kills get offended for being called a murderer? not all southerners are bad people, in fact the good are more than the bad it's just i guess the bad are making the most noise, they have their hands on the media, always on the internet spreading lies etc. and you expect good things?

who cares about your experiences i also have experiences to tell i'm sure we all have experiences that we want to forget, but someone with a tongue as sharp like yours and a head as thick as yours will get into any trouble, do you think if you offend people you will not get people angry and some people refuse to learn on history, you gave a story of a arrogant lady who goes on to offend people after being warned, that sum up your type, you get warned but when sheet happens you lay the blame, you know what gets under my skin, is the fact that you get warned that it is worth not saying or doing certain things but going instead to test other individuals, how pathetic man, many wars would have been preventable if some people just stopped being thick

Am just me:
Yeah, am from the north and truthfully its nothing but religion, its a movement called Jihad.

MAI KARYA

dejyx:
I find this piece very interesting.  I will first start with Hammid O. Typical of all hausa muslims he is trying to evade the main facts.  He is now blaming the crises on government not being able to provide jobs for the people and trying to say they should work on that.  Quite true, but we all know that government has not always provided for us. Government will never provide everything for everybody.  Whether I am a christian or a traditionalist and I find out that I am jobless does that give me the guaranty to go slaughtering pregnant women and their babies, slaughtering innocent youth corpers, burning churches, despoiling women and looting peoples property.  The answer is NO.  

Hammid O what is Bad is Bad please do not look for any excuse to support your muslim brothers. Every human being is a creation of God Almighty at no instance should any one take the life of a fellow brother or sister in the name of joblessness.  Hammid O all those your muslim brothers in Kaduna that have taken the Law into their hands and taken the life of innocent people must pay for it dearly and the fact is that on judgement day they have no hidding place they will burn forever in HELL FIRE.

Now to the main issue.  My own theory to all this crises are neither political, religious or tribal.  This crises is simply due to ENVY.  The typical hausa man is lost in this present dispensation. He is not educated (just a few are I mean) and you will agree with me that in the world we are living in today one must be educated, learn a trade or at least buy and sell before he can make a living.  The hausa populace in Nigeria have been sleeping. They reproduce massively without thinking of a way to provide for their offspring. You will find a jobless hausa man having four wives, concubines and twenty children just sitting on a mat under a mango tree from morning till night expecting God to drop manna from heaven for him my brothers and sisters how possible is that?

This now leads me to why I say it is pure envy.  The hausa man has put himself in a corner due to his decision to populate the earth and he now sees the average southerner hustling, a good example being the so called uneducated ones like the enterprising Igbo guys who come from various villages in the east to towns like Kano Jos kaduna and bauchi becoming millonaires. This is because of their involvement in businesses like the sale of spareparts, electronics pharmaceutical products cosmetics etc. All of a sudden you find the hausa man envious of these southerners the next that will happen is this an excuse will come up it will either be a christian butcher used the same knife to slaughter a pig and a cow and sold the beef to muslim brothers which is against their religion. You will now find groups chanting arabic words well armed with swords, axes and long sickles slaughtering maiming despoiling looting and burning churches. At the end of the day who are the victims?  Youth corpers, igbo business men, yoruba muslims etc.  Just because this group of southerners practice family planning have an education, have learnt a trade, can provide for themselves and their families translating to high living standards. The Hausas are a lazy bunch most of them into black market businesses which are not consistent eg sitting down by the road side to sell dollars and pounds, waiting for fuel scarcity to sell black market fuel, selling water in jerrycans, selling sweets and cigarate, selling sugarcane, selling kolanut, walking around town as a cobler, buying old bottles/newspapers (Mai kwalabe). Now the ones that are a little connected have friends in Abuja all they simply do is sit wait for contracts to be offered them by their friends in Abuja.  Contracts they will never execute or at worst sublet to Igbos and Yorubas.  You can see why they cant imagine power slipping off their hands.  Once power is off their hands no more fake contracts no more free money everyone will have to sweat for his money.  

Most southerners sweat for thier cash in this country most know that education is vital in this our internet age. The Hausa man is just realizing it.  Infact they have a group called BOKO HARAM meaning western education is forbidden. What a pity. This BOKO HARAM is funded by educated people/working class people and someone would come out to say crises is caused by illitracy/unemployment.  We all know the destruction this BOKO HARAM caused to the country.  

I would like to conclude that these bunch of Hausas are envious of the southerners lifestyle and  believe.  If a southerner is jobless what he will simply do is simply to engage himself in something, go to church and pray to God almighty to assist him and God that is God will perform wonders.  The opposite is the case of a Hausa man.  Once a Hausa man does not get what he wants or for example he sees that he has lost an election because his main source of living is the sharing of government money. The Hausa man will draw his sword and use the black market fuel he sells to start slaughtering maiming looting despoiling and burning churches due to ENVY. At the end of the day if you say this crises is political how does killing give one political power, if we say religous why does he kill his fellow muslims, if tribal the hausa man still slaughters his fellow hausa man.  

End of Part I

the hausa/fulani man is the most hardworking in nigeria/hardwork and striving for development=in our dna, as a matter of fact when a northern person is trying to better himself, what does the government do? it put's him down i have seen it with many individuals who have to get foreign aid just to start a charity, and don't talk about "boko haram" you are sounding like the rest, it is not a force in the north somehow the media is trying to make it what it is not for an obvious agenda, to spread your agenda, what can you do but tarnish our religion that's all you know, we see the failures of the federal government to adresse issue, what do you do, you blame islam, walahi from my point of view this is not about religion (the north is very tolerant we accepted alot of southerners when we were at our peak), we do not despice education (the north has always produced some of the greatest scholars/scientists in african history i.e dan marina, masani al barwani etc.) we can definitely look at that in our heritage, the good outweighs the bad in the north when you find a really good northerner ther are no better human beings in the world even in the civil war when emotion and anger was high we heard of stories of fulani/hausa get killed trying to protect strangers (children, women, elders) from the south, where else can that happen? don't tell us what we are not, we know our short comings we don't need reetards writing some pathetic stories that some ignoramuses will obviously believe, pathetic

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=662729.msg8296782#msg8296782 date=1305094925]Actually a good amount of the Igbos in the North are indeed Muslim. You will find an Alhajji Uche Okoro in the North.

If they are just there to make money, why don't they go back home instead of generations living there?  [/quote]maybe only 10% of the ibo population in the north is muslim, i haven't come across too many muslims, not too many of them mingle either, many of them have quarters which is totally ibo with only a few other who make the effort to mingle with the rest, i won't say just because they are in the north they are making unity amongst themselves and northerners better, sometimes it makes things worse because of a little community they have, there is nothing wrong with forming a community base on your ethnicity many northerners who live in the south mingle alot but once people start to perceive that a little iboland is being formed that is when the problems start, you know it is mainly alot of ibos who were not even born in the south east that started mess in the north in the 60s so the trust is not there as 100%

cool

i met alot of hausa (maybe 4 or 5 individuals) from nigeria when i was at a wedding in new york, including 2 fulani but many fulani were from other countries (moostly senegambia and guinea)

try new york and boston, i know alot of hausa there you wont be disappointed, in houston you will only come across mostly yoruba and ibos

slyopez:
In my tribe(Igbo) and my state(Anambra)precisely, bride price is just 2k with few kegs of wine for Indigene and 5k with same mentioned for non-indigene of that community. With just that u re married. U can opt for merryment if u wish, but the former is necessary.

that's cheap

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=663029.msg8286244#msg8286244 date=1304953984]What Ms. Chimamanda Adichie was discussing was true. There is a lot of danger in a single story. We as Nigerians are more prone to believing a single story. Maybe we need to get rid of these prejudices and focus on the individual. If we look at someone from the individual basis, we can get a better understanding of that person, instead of judging them by the group they are born into. I also liked how she stated that she refers to herself as an African, instead of being simply a Nigerian or an Igbo woman. This was a wonderful discussion.[/quote]says the igwe of generalization

T9ksy:
And has it occurred to you (yet) that those corpers killed by their so-called countrymen were innocents of any crime, whatsoever?

Those that committed this heinous crime against their fellow countrymen resides within the community- They are not aliens from outer space so they are known within their community. theu should be outed else they are complicit in this barbaric crime.

At any rate, we all know what is going to happen next. They will all be released on some shoddy technicalities. What happened to all those arrested for the Jos crisis? And the ones before that, nko?
Since all the callous and senseless killings in the north, has a single person ever been convicted of any of these crimes?

Hell No!

And you are here losing sleep over some innocents being wrongly-arrested.
I believe you have your priorities, misplaced.

i've heard from alot of people that some of the captured were completely innocent, i don't see how this help, because 9 people were killed 600 should rot in jail and we want to build a tolerant society? it's always north this, north that, once you start to stigamtize it is when things will get really nasty, the law inforcemant in nigeria is useless as it is

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