₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
Again, Lagos has a population almost 10 times of Bayelsa's. Bayelsa recieves, I believe more than 10 times of what Lagos gets from the Federal Government in Allocations. I don't see the rationale in claiming that Bayelsa is at some disadvantage in all this when it does not have the population burden Lagos has, and it does not have to borrow money to take care of it's business.

Yes, the state, and Local Government have a role in all this, but Jonathan was once part of that himself and did not see fit, apparently, to change the trend at the state level. Ofcourse it concerns people still that a man who was unable to perform much at the state level, helped hand his state over to PDP when he was eventually elected at the national level, has the audacity to call other state Governor's, rascals.

What nonsense are you talking about? Bayelsa recieves 10 times what lagos gets?

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Bros i feel you. silva is a waste of space, but even Alaibe is worse(I think).

If I were GEJ i would rather give silva my support now and have a 1 year plan to push him out, so that either the deputy(if worthy) or the speaker takes over.

Ibime:
Nobody will be put to SHAME Horse-Bred-Nigga!

We already know PDP will win as always. Only a doofus like yourself thinks the battle is to win the election, then subsequently send the Nation on the road to Mogadishu.

@ Na So,

Must you be so daft? Y(our) people dey suffer and all you can see is to point fingers at opposition for making up figures. More rational argument would be to state that insecurity and degradation of traditional fishing grounds coupled with decades of neglect from PH under the former Rivers State and the Fed Govt are to blame for high unemployment in Bayelsa. If you ask any not-so-smart person off the top of his head, he would tell you that the likes of Bayelsa would have some of the highest unemployment in Naija.

Bros dis your ITK don dey cross border o. While accusing me of not stating the reasons why unemployement level is so high(or possibly the highest as alleged), you failed to address the many posters who have used this thread as an avenue to extend the insults GEJ has been receiving sincere the "RASCAL" statement in oyo. Most posters are either directly or indirectly putting the blame of this unemployement rate  on GEJ.

My question/response is in the context of a claim like this coming from an ACN candidate maybe as a response to the Ibadan statement. Most NLers see no reason whatsoever to question the source of certain statements provided it comes from the opposition. For people like you silence is the tactic instead first calling claimants like this aspirant to show proof.

I know the unemployement rate in Bayelsa is high, BUT UNTIL THE ACTUAL STATS FROM FOS ARE MADE AVAILABLE, IT IS FALSE TO CLAIM THAT BAYELSA HAS THE HIGHEST UNEMPLOYEMENT RATE. Please prove that I am wrong.

Make u no cos me again for here or else we go throw e-blows oh

The Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) disclosed, on Wednesday, that Bayelsa State topped Nigeria’s unemployment chart, adding that the statistics made available by the Federal Office of Statistics showed that the state had the highest number of unemployed skilled and unskilled labourers across the country.

Why not show us the actual figures from FOS? Another propaganda from ASIWAJU PARTY OF NIGERIA(ACN).

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Abeg go siddon jare. So if a governorship aspirant in an opposition party feels the best way to show how popular he is in a state is to threaten the president's safety, then he should not be made to answer. abi?

Based on what we see on ground at the moment PDP does not have to rig to win the presidential election as bitter a pill it is, you have to just find a way to swallow it(u fit use okro). simple truth.

Kai, but dis girl you worry o. haba.

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Haba. i no threaten you na .

But the truth be say most of the threads wey u dey like na the ones wey dem dey bash GEJ.

@blacksta

I understand you dont like GEJ, thats ok. Infact our democracy dies , the moment we run out of alternatives, or when dissenting voices fail to provide  the necessary checks.

Buts lets for the moment look at the reality on ground not necessarily how we wish.

Buhari is the closest contender but he still remains unappealing to the youth and a lot of  christians( Forget the Bakare influence , it wont work). Another problem with Buhari is his party structure . At the moment the party simply starts and ends with Buhari. Close to the elections Buhari will not be able to cope with the media war, yes I mean it. He is not skilled for that and the men in his fold dont look it either. Only an alliance with the likes of Tinubu would have helped him in the pre-election media battle, which will be very key in swaying votes. In the end Buhari is sure of just his northwest region.

On the other hand the belief of the average Nigerian in the "divine hand" in peoples life will be exploited to the fullest by GEJ.  He has massive youth following, he has SS and SE locked in the bag. Northern minorities and christians in the North would vote him massively(no thanks to the fears of  fulani domination by the minorities).

Take it or leave it GEJ will do very well in the SW. Mimiko is already working for him. As popular as ACN is in LAGOS GEJ will get at least 45% of the votes in Lagos.

What you need to win this election is simple majority and at least 25% of votes in 24 states. Sincerely it will take GEJ pee on national TV to change this.

people are just refusing to see the obvious. Visibility and party structure are too key determinants of election outcome. Gej has sufficient dose of both ahead of other candidates.

 The only threat to GEJ would have been a CPC/ACN merger  that picks a strong vp from SE.

At the moment at least 90% of SE, and SS votes  will go to GEJ. 60% of NC goes to GEJ. SW and NE will be shared almost evenly but i strongly feel GEJ still has an edge.

Buhari wins only NW. Dont ask me about ribadu.

Muza:
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mofo i'm not ibo,i tell u Ribadu is not known beyond Lagos,he cant even win chairmanship in Adamawa. Hes not known in the north,hes just a spoiler.

Let him start his own party lets see how far he will go,instead of using the platform of a man he said was a criminal of international reputation in 2006 on the floor of the national assembly.
Its exactly 4 yrs that Ribadul started 'disqualifying' candidates running for elections,Ribadu has no credibility left,he has been paid be GEJ, mofo

Contradiction. How can someone whom you claim is not known beyond Lagos and cannot win a Local govt chairmanship election in Adamawa be a spoiler?

You said he is not known in the north, hence one can deduce that you mean Buhari is the sole northern candidate, then explain hoe ribadu is a spoiler. pls.

In my opinion , ribadu is a spoiler for GEJ becuase without ribadu, Gej would have been sure of 70% of SW votes.

superboi:
Well although I do not support Goodluck, I can say that during his tenure Muazu was one of the most effective Governor. He left a lot of Infrastructure and was very religious tolerant, which was one reason he was not re-elected for the senate(the said he respected the "arines" more than his "elders". The Efcc was probably after him because the current governor had petition before them against him, am not saying he is a saint but since he left Bauchi state the current governor has left no basic infrastructure and you all know the security suituation.

God bless you jare.

People and the way they reason. Muazu was one of the shinning lights when he was governor. I do not understand how an EFCC invitee automatically becomes convicted.

Is tinubu holier than Muazu?

afam4eva:
Did i just hear that GEJ appointed ALAMS? Is this a joke or something. If it's true then GEJ can bid my vote goodbye.

Bros where you see ALAMs name for this story na?

I now know why the PDP zoning debate was of national concern. . . . . .

Ugochukwu what? Kai make i dey laugh again.

people will just post and comment on things they know nothing about.  Is it that ACN does not have technical consultants to explain how these things work or Lai is just on another noise making trip? I cant believe he said this:

“It simply means that every time INEC wants to detect double/multiple registration, it will have to match each set of ten fingerprints of a voter against sixty million sets of ten fingerprints (assuming 60 million people were registered), and the technology procured by INEC simply does not have the capacity to do that.

The ACN said if “it took the British Police three years to establish a national finger print system, it is not what INEC can do in three weeks.”

Well the response from INEC is clear enough for anyone who has no hidden agenda

“For instance, if someone registers at two polling units in a ward, that double registration will be detected when the data get aggregated at the ward level.”

He explained that multiple registrations in different local government areas will be detected when the entire date is aggregated at the state level, while multiple registration done at different polling units in different states will be detected by the time the entire data is collected at the national level.

I always thought Buhari was a threat in the coming elections until the CPC/ACN merger failed, now to compound his issues he has picked Bakare who has little electoral value even in his SW domain.

With the look of things SS,SE,NC will be clean sweep for GEJ. NE and SW will be shared amongst the contestants. NW goes to Buhari.

In the end GEJ gets majority votes and 25% of votes in at least 24 states. It is so simple.


I still dey laff.

StarBoard:
Oga,what role does a VP play in governance?
Constitutionally,if Buhari decides to push Sharia (which is not unlikely given his past utterances),[b]what can Bakare do as a VP,assuming they win the elections?[/b]Awaiting answers. . .

Hmm. smart question.

I am waiting for the answers too.

Gbawe:
Some of you should calm down with this undemocratic talk. If another adult makes a personal choice he is fully entitled to make who are you to condemn him? You may state that you don't think his choice is a wise one but it is very high-handed to say you lost respect for him based on his choice considering he has made a very brave decision out of patriotism [size=14pt]while many of us , myself included , sit on the sideline passing comments. [/size]

Haba you dey try na. ACN's e-image maker. Abeg no blame yourself.

But Gbawe u self no say with dis uncoordinated approach from the opposition, na walkover dis election go be for my bros GEJ

Laff just dey catch me. Abeg who dey laugh with me?

Well I wish them GOODLUCK.

@Gbawe

What's the latest on this merger please?


Make I still dey laugh while i wait for your answer.

@JP philips

Please you would do the entire forum some good if you learn to summarise.

I said Buhari made his cousin the sole consultant to award, pay and vet projects and that the company commited massive fraud and you are there saying i am twisting facts and telling me about common sense. i just dey laugh. stay off insults.

you were asking for evidence of presidential influence as a reason for the massively lopsided contract award to north west. For your information Buhari accepted the job on conditions that he would be given a free hand, and Abacha agreed not to interfere.

I repeat the following which your voluminous post did not address

1. Buhari in the heat of his anti corruption crusade allowed 54 suit cases loaded with cash into the country  when he publicly had warned that no such thing should be allowed.

2. Buhari's PTF   had a sole contractor (his cousin) who committed massive fraud and commited suicide. My take is that Buhari either benefited or was so clueless that he never knew what was happening under him. How then will he curb corruption in a complex country like nigeria in a democracy.

3 That Buhari ran PTF as if it was meant for his NW region

The truth is that Buhari ran a clearly lopsided organisation with its plethora of consultants concentrated in the northern parts of the country. This issue of disparity in project execution was one of the reasons critics of the Fund kicked against it.[b] The imbalance in PTF distribution of projects and award of contracts is so glaring when one views the North-West Zone against other zones. The South-Eastern Zone is worst hit by the lopsidedness of the Fund in projects selection and execution.

For example, contracts awarded by PTF in the six zones as at December 1998 revealed that the zone made up of Jigawa, Kaduna Kano, Katsina, Kebbi, Sokoto and Zamfara state grabed the lion share of all the four projects. Road rehabilitation 27.42 per cent, Education sector (NHERP) 34.82 per cent, Education sector (HEMPP) 30.64 per cent. Health sector 55.37 per cent, Food supply 60.54 per cent. This is against zone , made up of Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu and Imo State, having 5.34 per cent, 4.04 per cent, 10.57 per cent, 6.53 per cent, 4.02 per cent, respectively.


Also Zone VI, made up of Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa, Cross River, Delta, Edo Rivers, state had 8.07 per cent 19.48 per cent, 13.77 per cent 13.26 per cent 5.57 per cent in same order. Even zone I made up of the six western state Ekiti, Lagos, Ogun, Ondo Osun and Oyo States did not fare better when compared with the zones in the northern states. The injustice of PTF in the case of Lagos is particularly more disturbing, when it is considered that Lagos is the economic nerve centre of the country.[/b]

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You funny gan. So because he has not been probed he is not corrupt? has anyone probed IBB or OBJ? So since IBB has not been probed , he is not corrupt too?

Abeg find anoda excuse.

@honerico1

Abeg go back to your sports section make we see road here.

It rather funny you are backing a self-acclaimed anti-corruption crusader who in the real sense is far from what he preaches.

May be you need to be reminded , what PTF( Petroleum Trust fund) meant. Someone who is the helsman appoints  his cousin as the sole consultant, to award, pay  and vet contract execution and this cousin perpetuated massive fraud to the tune that he commited suicide when his deeds where about being exposed.

Now there are two scenarious i want us to see.

It is either Buhari knew about the corruption in PTF and turned the blind eye becuase he was benefiting from it

OR

Buhari did not even know anything like that was happening under his nose.

My question therefore is if Buhari  did not know hence could not curb corruption in a small organisation like PTF , then how will he be able to manage corruption in the entire country? "If you have run with horsemen and it wearied thee, how canst thou contend with horsemen?"


I dont want to delve into the issue of 54 suitecases, if you really intend to polish Buhari's image i would advise you ignore that area, as your explanations seem to be doing more damage to him.

PTF was for over 4 years, now do you know that over 45% of the entire PTF projects went to Buhari's north west zone?  If that is not corruption , then tell me what that is?

My point clearly is that the ECA issue has been overflogged. Besides I am not sure if GEJ meet more than $5 billion in that account.

The governors claimed it was illegal. I heard oshiomole(yes same edo governor) in defence of why the ECA should be shared saying on national TV that it was pointless to keep ECA for some imaginary rainy day when people were already suffering.

So why the call for Jonathan's fans. All goveronors both PDP and opposition(I am too sure of oshiomole) governors pushed for the release of the funds. If it was a mistake, then it was a collective one, dont call for GEJ'S head.

U don understand now?

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Aramaic sir.

what dont you understand?

wetin happen? wetin do fans of jonathan?

This is just another cunning attempt to first re-introduce the overflogged ECA issue and to subtly confuse ECA and foreign reserve.

First what was the ECA meant for? was it backed by any law? If the different tiers of govt pressed on sharing it what could the FG have done , expecially when analysts have glaringly stated the illegality in the fund in the first place.

Secondly , how much did GEJ meet in the ECA, and how much was left by OBJ that you are shouting fans of jonathan.

I am not an economist, but the simple arithemetic  is that if foreign inflows dont come in becuase of the recession in foreign economies and percieved local and foreign apprehension that greeted the reforms, the only way a govt averts a total halt for the economy is to stimulate spending(abi you no know this one?).

The ECA was setup to take care of the rainy day. Oil output and international prices plummeted after OBJ left, hence how else should the govt have handled the shortfalls?

Now the Govt has setup the SWF backed by appropriate laws, hence nobody comes to make demands on the funds anyhow.

Abeg make una go siddon make we hear word.

evilspirit:
buhari/bakare

Bakare will be a waste of political space. what voting group is he expected to appeal to?

yuzedo:
Having sampled public opinion of mostly young people[size=12pt][/size], It seems Goodluck/PDP is on a cruise (mainly due to political naivety of our generation and ethnic/religious fear Buhari emits)
, PDP may win this, Buhari needs a powerful coalition to take at least a third of the south, thats his only hope, the north h his,
That said, his proposed running mates are credible choices,
Team Buhari needs to embark on increased sensitization of people, cos Jonathan and his goons are using propaganda and smear campaign on Buhari effectively,
, It aint over till its over!  

People dont know that this factor will be pivotal in the elections. Ribadu will get his share of the young voters if fielded, but for buhari he is not even in the radar of  this strata of voters, infact a lot of them feel Buhari contibuted to this rot. I still dey laugh.

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If dem consider tax evasion, less than 10% go pass. How many organisations dey remit correct tax? I know my salary and i see wetin HR dey write as my tax, but wetin man go do?

i still dey laugh

dayokanu:
The same way the AD/ANPP allinace worked in 1999 Where Falae/Shinkafi ran under the ANPP but the AD still won all SW states and APP won the North West

Forget 1999 if you want to appraise the issues at hand now.

In 1999 the yorubas were still hurting from the annulment of june 12 and death of MKO, Afenifere felt yorubas needed to stay together politically.
The understanding that a larger percentage of hausas had endorsed OBJ ahead of falae served as a tonic to support Falae in the SW as it was agreed that from antecedents it was clear that Falae will oil the ODUA agenda much better than OBJ.

Secondly since most of yoruba political elites were Awoist they felt it was a rare opportunity to serve OBJ revenge for what he did in 1979.

In this case we are talking of Buhari and GEJ. One factor the opposition will neglect and pay for dearly is that GEJ is liked by a lot of voters(Not faceless NLers with their multiple IDs) who dont even like PDP. In lagos today I can tell you that 80% of SE,SS,NC will go to GEJ and at least 50% of yoruba votes in lagos will go to him too. Ask around and you 'll know what i mean.

Another angle to this debate is the following Ribadu and GEJ enjoy amongst young voters (18-25). If Buhari is made the consensus candidate you can be sure almost all of that pie will go to GEJ.

Anyway, I STILL DEY LAUGH.

Jarus:
That may be true for candidate Buhari, but if AC/CPC come together and AC work for Buhari in the SW, this, to me, will be the permutation:

ACN/CPC(Buhari) PDP(GEJ) Others Note
NW 80 10 10 10 in others likely to come ANPP thru Yerima & Shekarau factors in Kano&Zamfara
NE 65 30 5 Votes for parties other than these two will be very neglgible here, but Modu Sheriff factor may help ANPP garner few
NC 40 60 - Plateau, Benue, are easily PDP's, but AC is expected to put strong showing in Kwara, plus anti-GEJ votes in Niger
SW 60 35 5 If Tinubu, Aregbesola and co put their weight behind ACN/CPC, they can swing almost SW AC states to ACN/CPC
SE 5 80 15 The 15% here may come from APGA. If APGA doesn't filed presidential candidate, whoever they support can claim that 15
SS 5 90 5 This is GEJ's strongest zone, but if Oshiomole works for his party, AC/CPC may curry Edo

Our area of contention is SW.

May be you need to ask around , here in Lagos. Even if ACN has total control of lagos, I can authoritatively tell you GEJ cannot lose here. A lot of people that will vote ACN for governorship and federal/state houses will never choose Buhari ahead of GEJ.

The very "apostles" of internal democracy coming up with this crappy excuse is laughable.

Ok JEGA in the same vein impose a credible president on us please? . Afterall all we want is good governance.