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Lasinoh:
Hmmm!
Watch those ones closely.
Biafra part 2!

OPC go soon pass back go join Boko Haram.
Deja vu?

South South and Middle Belt. . .siddon look as usual! The more you look, the less you see.

The Nigerian civil war re-enactment. Just for show.

wHICH Middle bELT DEY SIDDON LOOK?

I was in Kano in 1999/2000 during the Sagamu riots and I saw Yoruba muslims being hacked to death by northern muslims even after identifying themselves to be muslims. Fake religion, fake people.

Eko Ile:
You are basically indirectly affirming what the article is asserting. It means your societal, communal and religious maturity is yet to be tested and you have never responded to the same scenario simply because you don''t have the same diverse and complex mix.

Wait till you are confronted with the same 50/50 scenario and let the world see your level of maturity and communal sophistication before beating your chest over what you are yet to be confronted with.

Your own case is even worse, you don't have religion or any tribal issues dividing and troubling you, no outside interference, but you you still managed to slaughter and kidnap yourselves for money and petty greed, even your own school kids are fair game, it's called communal cannibalism, a great societal disorder.

You can cry about the North killing your people, but you yourselves have zero respect for your lives and your own community.

You chose your part: to be mixed religion. I respect you for that
We chose ours: to be mainly of one religion. Do you have a problem with that?
Despite that, we have uncountable muslims in our midst. We have not decimated them like your brothers do to christians up north.
What value do you have for your lives? Are you not hacking yourselves down everyday just for who runs the motor parks? You are shameless.

Oba234:
lol, Yoruba Muslims aren't really taking serious by nobody in general. Yoruba Muslims aren't hardcore Muslims.  I know Yoruba Muslims that will even go to church with you, Marry Christians and some of them don't care what religion their children takes. You can't really compare Yoruba Muslims to northern Muslims. Northerners Muslims are hardcore. You won't see them step foot in a church or marry Christians. I think it boils down to the fact that Yoruba people have an identity outside of their various religion. This is why Yoruba get along with other Yoruba despite religion differences. We have a common basis, we are all Yoruba. I don't think you can separate Fulani or Hausa from Islam. I even heard somebody say one day to a Hausa christian that he can't be Christian and Hausa. If he is Christian, then he is not Hausa. lmao, so this are the kinda people you expect to mimic Yoruba?

Yes I forgot that SALIENT point that Yoruba muslims are inconsequential muslims in Nigeria. They have no choice than to be good boys lol.
The other day Aregbesola was dining with Adeboye. Fake muslims, really. I understand Tinubu's wife is christian. Any surprises why the northern muslims don't take them seriously?

This is about those whose zones are divided in religion. Igbo zone is not, so there is nothing to learn from the Igbos here. And yes, the Yoruba muslims are more advanced than the northern muslims. That has never been in doubt. We only hope it remains so, as sharia gradually moves SW.

The Igbo zone is 99% Christianity and we love it so. However, we have hundreds of thousands of northern/yoruba muslims living in our midst and we have not taken revenge on any despite the daily killings of our people up North. More than 50% of those killed in the North so far are Igbos.

Eko Ile:
Ode, you said SW and the last time I checked, SW is not a state, it's a region and one state within the region did not vote for him so you can not say the whole of SW and the ones that did like I said did not give him no mumu and ridiculous 100% votes. He def wont have picked up anything in the SW if not because of the same gullible and treacherous ibo in the SW like Lagos and Ogun

All your percentage this and that dance around is nothing BS.


Good to know some clown called Djustice is your new Hero and Lord savior and Babalawo. 


Olodo. Again, what's this got to do with your decades of stupidity and shadiness?

I do not know how any one can redeem you from your sad state

GEJ won in the SW like he did in the SE
5 states out of one is a resounding victory
ONLY an im/be/ci/le will say otherwise.
Even if the SE gave GEJ 100% vote, it will not make him the president
It was your SW vote that gave him the edge over Buhari
Now can you tell us why your people, with their ACN, voted GEJ and abandoned their own candidate?
Now you claim it was Igbos in the SW (I dey laugh oh) that voted GEJ. That claim is porous unless you agree Igbos are 65% of the SW. You will have to choose one, as I have dug you into a hole.

The other incoherent things you penned there are, as usual, pieces of thrash that I have not bothered to look at.

Justcash:
I read this topic; https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-832752.0.html and noticed that some Yorubas are trying hard to shift the blame to the Igbos. They tend to forget that they betrayed the Igbos by joining the North to pillage the East of Nigeria. They have seen the consequence of their foolishness and are now trying to find who to blame.

It is in the records that Nnamdi Azikiwe, an Igbo man, singlhandedly ensured unity in the country. In his pursuit for unity, he spread his ideology to his people, the Igbos, and we spread through out Nigeria, taking every nook and cranny as our home and country. Yorubas and Hausas never did the same. They stuck in their regions, nursing ethnic concerns and searched for an opportunity to instill division and disharmony. They succeeded with the pogrom after some Nigerian soldiers carried out a coup. They perceived the coup as an Igbo coup due to their myopic and ethnic biased views, even though the coup was botched by an Igbo man, Aguiyi Ironsi. They pounced on Igbos and caused a war that cemented their wish for a divided country.

Is this the one Nigeria that the West (Yorubas) collaborated with the North (Hausa/Fulanis) to maintain?! Imagine the spate of deaths from the suicide missions being carried out by the Children and Grand Children of the hausa/fulanis that killed millions to ensure unity!!!!!

Northerners and Westerners should bow their heads in shame. They have ruined the lives of many through their short shortsightedness. They have condemned Nigeria to death through their own lack of vision. Even the Northerners and Westerners are dying in droves too.

Boko Haram will soon venture into the west. When they start bombing Lagos, Oyo, Ekiti etc, Yoruba children, including the naive ones on Nairaland trying to shift the blame on Igbos will ask their parents e.g. Adekunle, Why they fought to retain the cesspit called Nigeria.

I laugh in Chinese.

The highlighted, with regards to Jonathan, is partly the reason for this thread. They have been living in denial about GEJ and it is time to call them to order.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-833099.0.html

Relax101:
Oyb is anti-Christain, anti-GEJ and pro-any-evil thing from the north.
If that will make him for the mean time so be it.
He has shown over and over again.
He's also pro BOKO HARAM.

He is a northern muslim (Kwara) conducting his own bombing on cyberspace. It is in the interest of southern muslims to denounce idiots like him.

In a southern Nigeria (if any) comprising the SE, SS, and SW, you accept a Kwaran muslim at your own peril. They are no different from their brothers up north: thoroughly indoctrinated and brainwashed. They just need a little bit more trigger to go on rampage.

That will not stop the push when it comes
The northern leaders better call their foot soldiers to order.

Eko Ile:
Keep quiet Olodo.

Last time I checked Osun state didn't give him shittt and the ones that did didn't give him no silly and ridiculous 100% votes like you mumu people.


And what's this rubbish got to do with your decades of stupidity and shadiness?

Irredeemable fool

The last time anyone checked
Lagos
Oyo
Ondo
Ogun
Ekiti
5 states all voted for GEJ
Osun (less than 10% of the Yoruba population) gave him 10, 20, 30 or so % vote
The Yorubas living in the SE, SS, and possibly N, also voted for him
5 Igbo states also voted for GEJ which balances the equation
Keep fooling yourself and chocking in blood money from Tinubu/Fasola
The cause that your brother Djustice heaped on you will alight, certainly.

BH is the face of islamic northern Nigeria.

please remove Adamawa from your map. It is a BH territory. We can then discuss the rest of the places.

I ask again who the SW voted for in the last election. I ask again what did AWo fight for in the sixtirs.

gists:
Why should I thank you if your condemnations have not yielded any result? The one man that can stop these terrorists is the president who sadly seems to be interested only in removing fuel subsidy, while the budget for aso rock hit billions. You should join forces with those calling our leaders to take action. Condemning BH's aaction is not bad, but that is not good enof - its not what we need. We need actions not just pray, waiting and hoping they get tired bull-shyte

You seem quite naive in wanting me to spell it out for you

1. The Nigerian govt may not be able to stop Boko Haram because it is a systemic revolution in which the preponderance of northern Muslims are involved, covertly or overtly
2. Like every Islamic terrorism world over, the more the feds kill them, the more they regroup and fire back. Ask the USA how much they have been able to route Islam-induced terrorism since 9/11.
3. Thus, you can kill an individual terrorist, you have not defeated them not stopped their aim from advancing
4. Only the northern leaders can effectively stop them because they are their sponsors, by and large
5. So far, they are unwilling to do so
6. Instead, the head of the Muslims in Nigeria, the Caliph from Sokoto, was in Ogun state southern Nigeria, telling Muslims they need to be united.
7. United against what? Could that be a covert signal for southern Muslims to join their northern brothers in the act?

Shine your eyes, okay??

Only two options can solve the problem:
1. If northern leaders call them to order
2. If the country is divided (to as many groups as possible).

gists:
You contibute to the killing by castgating those courageous enof to tell the truth. You'll rather have a faceless oyb (who probably is not even a northerner) to condemn BH and expect the criminals to stop killing. Keep waiting to see how far they will go rather than joining your voice to compel your clueless fisherman to take action. Meanwhile I'll advice you stay away from the new year service in your church - no thanks to clueless gej

I wonder why those courageous ones are not also castigating the killers?

Shouldn't you also thank those of us courageous enough to condemn the killers despite the bombs they throw at us?

And yes, OYB is one of them northern terrorist Muslims.

OYB

To you, the suicide bombers who kill themselves in the process are also victims, right? I am shocked that you are this brainwashed. But what will I say; you are a [b]northern muslim [/b]after all.

Please tell us:

What do you guys want?

oyb:
and all the previous all year round bombings in maiduguri targeted xtians right? you myopic self centered . . .

Overall, the few Muslims (and they can be counted at the tip of the finger) who have died since the upsurge in Boko Haram activities are part of the ploy and at worst the collateral damage that is ever present in such plans. Some like you may be blind and brainwashed, but others have eyes that see quite clearly.

After all is said and done, the bottom line is that you Islamic northerners are bombing the rest of Nigeria. We wait and see how far they will go. Keep blaming the govt; don't also blame your folks killing people wantonly.

oyb:
^^^^

my rating of you

a loser who blames his failures on external forces

only in nigeria will we hear such lame defeatist rot from the nations leadership

the same gej who has been forming african obama. even the daft george w bush never made any waffling statements about
al quaeda - he got to work

tll the dunce in sao rock to get rid of all his security chiefs , or is he waiting for washington to express their displeasure one more time, which is probably what made him eventually give farida the boot?

one has to wonder is our hydroponics professor is not growing and smoking some new strain of cannabis sativa.

the islamic north  plotted to oust johnathan by bombing their kinsmen? what next?

What kinsmen did they bomb? Have you seen the names of the victims of the Xmas day bomb blast? Can you identify one Muslim amongst them?

Have you read this one? https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-833086.0.html
Do you want more evidence that the plot is carefully planned and being systematically executed? Overall, the few Muslims who have died since the upsurge in Boko Haram activities are part of the ploy and at worst the collateral damage that is ever present in such plans. Some like you may be blind and brainwashed, but others have eyes that see quite clearly.

Jonathan can sack the security chiefs (good thing to do in times like this) but that will not deter the marauders from their trade, till mission is accomplished. But will their mission be accomplished? Time will tell.

On a personal note,  I believe that the spate of bombings in the North is more of a ploy by the Islamic North to achieve a set aim than incompetence on the part of Jonathan and his minders.

My rating:

Northern Islamic sinister ploy (80% of the problem)
Incompetence of the govt (20% of the problem)

The Govt is up in battle against people set to achieve an aim.
Eleven odd years after, the almighty USA is still battling those with set aims?
Thus, It will take Nigeria far more than Jonathan to do so.
The magic wand is to ''let Boko Haram have its way'' and pronto, all bombings will stop.
I for one will rather die than be a Muslim not of my own volition.

Many people on here have been in denial, blaming others for voting in Jonathan
For such persons, your denial is valid only to yourself if you did not vote for him
But please stop the group/ethnic/collective denial

Jonathan is our collective burden
All the southern States voted for him and he won in all those States except in Osun


Who are those voters in Lagos, Oyo, Ondo, Ekiti and Ogun who voted massively for Jonathan so that he won in these states? Ghosts?

And in a good number of the Northern states, Jonathan won too.


No one zone made Jonathan the president; no one zone could have done so.

Speaking of the South:
If Jonathan is incompetent, only the bulk of Osun voters (who did not vote for him, because some voted for him too) should genuinely hang him.
The rest of the South should pray that he gets his act together and deliver.

Speaking of the North:
Only those States where he did not win should genuinely complain


The alternatives to Jonathan - Buhari and Ribadu - are not on the table for many of us hence Jonathan was preferred
For they have their own serious garbage, ranging from the flimsy to the serious
One an intolerant, sectional, religious bigot who once toppled democracy and asked muslims to vote only their kind
And the other an inexperienced, disgruntled, manipulable, flip-flopping fellow (like today Tinubu is a rogue, tomorrow he is not).
To many, Jonathan was the best of the pack.
Is he the best we could have offered out of 160 million individuals? Hell No.
To begin with, who propped up the ''incompetent'' Jonathan and his equally incompetent boss, Yaradua? Obasanjo


I did not vote, but would in all likely have voted for Jonathan.
Ultimately, he will be judged better when he leaves office; he is not yet irredeemable.
Good, unbiased judgment is by equivalent comparison; not selective, not sentimental.


For now, part of the 1.9 trillion Naira budget for defense should be set aside for compensation for the families of the victims of Boko Haram. No amount of money can assuage their loss, but they deserve it more than anything else.

Northern Muslims should be courageous to come forward and state what they want and why they have unleashed Boko Haram on the rest of us
a. Do you want a muslim Nigeria?
b. Do you want a muslim northern Nigeria?
c. Do you want power back before 2015?
d. Do you want power back in 2015?
e. Do you want all southerners to leave northern Nigeria?
f. Do you want all Christians to leave northern Nigeria?
g. Do you want all of the above?

On the fuel subsidy removal, the govt should build the new refineries they promised and refurbish the existing ones.
Then they can remove the subsidy
But subsidy money should not go to subsidize the families of the thieving elites.
It should be ploughed back to better the lot of everyone.

Have a nice holidays, everyone.

Signed by Nchara
(Holed up in some natural environment in SE Nigeria drinking fresh palm wine and learning words of wisdom from the elders and planning community development projects).

Vintage bkbabe97y. Always reasoning from his anus. Can you tell us who the SW voted for in the last election?

DK, care to explain what Bakare and Fola Adeola were doing deputizing for northerners?

Can anyone post articles -can't find any now- on the BH claim that the bombings will not stop until every Nigerian becomes a muslim?

North has highest rate of poverty- Report
On September 14, 2011 · In News
| 12:00 am

BY VICTORIA OJEME

ABUJA- A report Tuesday revealed that, in absolute poverty, the North East, North West and North Central has retained the poorest geo-political zones in Nigeria since 1985.

The index highlight states like, the North East consisting of Borno, Bauchi, Taraba Adamawa, with the highest incidence of poverty ranging between 54.9% to 72.2% followed by North West which consist of Katsina, Kano, Kaduna, Jigawa and the North Central consisting of Plateau, Benue, Nasarawa, Niger and Kwara.

Prof Mohammed Ladan, expert in security matters declared this in his paper at a public lecture on criminal justice system and the new security challenges in Nigeria, yesterday in Abuja.

He said: “By the index of 50.6%, Nigeria is the 3rd among 20 countries in the world with a widest gap between the rich and the poor, poverty in Nigeria is undoubtedly the face of the north”.

January 2011 statistics, out of this 70% are the majority rural poor that fall between the ages of 25-60. 70% of this particular population is within this age bracket. In a country where you have this particularly age bracket, it is a time bomb.

He also blamed the government for lack of care on the youth, “this is the fault of bad governance which is one of the key issues, because if we fail to address social economic, political injustices, unemployment and issue relating to education you create a time bomb and you allow the youth to become hopeless, frustrated and their energies are driven towards something else.

Security in the country is a collective responsibility the truth must be told, that is the only solution, he added.

In his speech, The Director General of the institute for peace and conflict Resolution, Dr Joseph Golwa said criminal justice system must be able to punish criminals and terrorist who have perfected the art of using bombs to kill innocent people at will.

According to him, other issues such as the number of pre-trial detainees and the inordinate length of pre-trial detention, and time it takes to conclude criminal cases, the non-effectiveness of the penal system’s stated objective of rehabilitation and reform of the prisoner which new laws do we need to handle crimes in conflict/violence situations, and or which old laws should Nigeria review.

Our goal is to pursue and enthrone a culture of peace, tolerance and development in our national life, with the support and collaboration of UNDP

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/09/north-has-highest-rate-of-poverty-report/

The above is no news to me. But it seems like people use poverty as excuse for the bombings. I have read that in many other articles. . This is contradictory as there have been articles from BH saying the the bombings will not stop until the whole country is islamicized. So which is true: BH = Poverty-induced or BH= sharianization of Nigeria?

sheyguy:
^^i dont study dead pple brain and the Neural Network in them . . . But am sure if he was alive and watching from the stand he would say welldone to the yorubas for carrying on in the midst of adversity (from the north intellectually and from the SE/SS emotionally/politically). Can Ojukwu say the same for the ibos? . . .  Even with his support all through the years?

If may ask, did awo really fight so hard to keep Nigeria one ? ? ?

So that is why you want to leave? ''Intellectual adversity from the North and emotional political adversity from the SS/SE''? Now don't tell me you are running away from basic competition. Oh! How art the mighty fallen.

If may ask, did awo really fight so hard to keep Nigeria one ? ? ?

Where will I start from

sheyguy:
i expect u to do beta than this nowww . . . I am asking u why has GEJ not increased the 13% instead he zones federal capital projects to his place without consideration for others'. Is that how OBJ ruled us for 8 yrs?

Do you have a problem with siting infrastructures in the Niger Delta? Are those people not Nigerians? Do you want GEJ to do things the way OBJ did and if so why do you think OBj's method is better? Do you know if siting facilities directly for the people is not better than giving the states more than 13% that their govs will end up embezzling anyways? I know if they increase money for Oyo, Ondo Ogun and other SW states, you will be happy. Why are you so greedy and selfish?

Can you even mention one federal project he took to his place without due consideration for others? Am waiting.

Enugu pays 13th month salary today (no announcement in the Newspaper)

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-829892.0.html

But why is Aregbesola making this something newsworthy? Could it be that he has nothing else to celebrate as achievement during the closing year?

sheyguy:
when the igbos started their blood spilling it was power they wanted, they only started claiming otherwise when it backfired on them, u shld know knowledge has totally failed u guys by now and stop being "smart" on NL, everyone is watching oh. . . . Lol

Okay I don hear, Igbo no get knowledge. Now can you show the knowledge by telling us why you guys want to leave? What have you lost from Nigeria to warrant wanting to leave? What would Awo have been thinking now were he alive to see his people dreaming to leave the country he fought so hard to keep together?

alj_harem:
Nchara claim down o Biko nu

there is more to udu than 1960 politics you know

ayi ncha nokotara onu. please don't forget that, whether yoruba hausa or igbo

Biko nwannem, jide obi gi aka and relax. daalu

I will listen to you if you answer this question: What would Awo have been thinking now were he alive to see his people dreaming to leave the country he fought so hard to keep together?

Emerging trend of social almajiri in Yorubaland
By Hakeem Jamiu

There is a social malaise which is gradually creeping into the lexicon of Yorubaland and this is the ugly spectre of hungry children begging for food and alms at social events. Older women are equally not left out in this ugly but strange practice in Yorubaland. It is strange in Yorubaland because the concept of almajiri which simply means street urchin is common in the Northern part of the country. Yorubas use to refer derisively to anybody soliciting for arms in Yorubaland in the olden days as almajiri. The almajiri of the North are usually children between the age bracket of 7 and 20 in most cases. Almajiris are so desperate for food that any unsuspecting visitor to the Northern part of the country who goes to a restaurant to eat but mistakenly left his food to wash his hands is likely to lose such to waiting almajiris before he comes back for the food.


I first noticed this ugly trend at a ceremony I attended a few months ago at Ayetoro Ekiti. Elderly and middle aged able bodied women from Kwara, Osun and Oyo states invaded the burial ceremony uninvited and were embarrassing guests who refused to give them money. Also noticeable were children with their begging bowls who thronged the venue of the ceremony soliciting for left over food and alms. The children were a pitiable sight. Poverty was clearly written on their faces. I have attended many social functions after that and the same trend was noticeable. But I became worried a few days ago, when I attended the burial ceremony of a friend's father in Ilesha , Osun State . They came in various groups and employ different methods in soliciting for alms. There were the elderly women who were busy harassing guests in the name of praise singing and would not leave until you part with money, there were the men with their public address system which they use in praise singing but which is disturbance and yet, there were Yoruba children in the mould of almajiris with their begging bowls scrambling for left-over and at the same time soliciting for alms.


Fellow guests on my table at the event who were also journalists expressed their concern in unison about the growing trend of almajiri of various categories in Yorubaland. They all agreed that it has become a social problem. We started discussing and realised that the culture of begging in the mould of almajiris is alien to Yoruba culture. In those days before the advent of the British, the Yorubas are a proud people known for their hard work and industry. They practiced hoe agriculture and were well known as traders and for their crafts. Yoruba artists have produced masterpieces of woodcarving and bronze casting, some of which date from as early as the 13th century. Many of Nigeria 's best-known artists and writers are Yoruba. Other occupation of the Yorubas at that time were drumming and masquerading which would now be called showbiz. They engage in all the foregoing occupation but a Yoruba man or woman (able bodied) would not beg for alms as it is considered shameful and something akin to a curse. The Yorubas cherish their oriki (folklore) which is a poetic version of eulogizing the exploits of their progenitors which is an incentive for them to excel and even surpass their progenitors. The Yorubas have harsh words for lazy people. Such people are objects of ridicule and butt of jokes in the society. With this background, it is understandable why we became worried with the array of beggars at the Ilesha ceremony.


After leaving the party, I reflected on the scenario of the almajiris in Ilesha and I was able to draw a relationship between Political almajiris and social almajiris. I discovered that social almajiri had its root in the advent of the politics of do -or-die introduced into the political lexicon of Yorubaland by apostles of mainstream politics especially ex-President Obasanjo. The grand Patron of political almajiris who recently passed away was Chief Lamidi Adedibu. Many have argued that his death has led to the proliferation of almajiris in Yorubaland. This is because those he hitherto dole handouts to must look for other means of survival since he is no more. These political almajiris are ready to exchange their mothers for few coins. A new political class of men without integrity and anything goes was created and they became political almajiris who survive on crumbs from their masters. They would rig, kill, maim and do all sort of things to acquire political power. With the ascension of these men in power, good governance became a thing of the past. Our collective patrimony was squandered by these political almajiris. Nigeria has never been so blessed with petro dollar with oil selling for $156 dollars per barrel but Nigeria has never been so poor with a chunk of the population living below poverty line. So versions of the political almajiris are the social almajiris that now invade ceremonies in Yorubaland. With these children begging for alms, a ready made market for thuggery and other social vices is assured. The activities of the beggars are not limited to parties. At bus stops in our cities, it is a common sight to see women most of who are still in their mid thirties, who would strap a baby at their backs and approach men with stories of despair to solicit for alms. Many of them would end up in bed with such men. This is another brand of alamajiri and these are Yoruba women. A violent version of almajiri but which is gradually being tackled in Lagos is the 'Area Boys' syndrome. These are Yoruba street urchins who are semi- armed robbers.


The underlying factor in this new trend is failure of the Nigerian State on one part and the laziness on the part of these women. Most of them don't want to work, In those days, when everybody's occupation was farming you dare not beg. You must find something to do. But these days, our women and children are too lazy. It is either they steal or beg. In most cases a mother and child become almajiris at social events. So the question now is can a Yoruba man now refer derisively to a Hausa beggar as almajiri when we have many of them now in Yorubaland? The answer is no! This trend must be arrested before it goes out of hand. The almajiris in the North these days engage in novel forms of drug abuse like sniffing of gutter water to get intoxicated, sniffing of adhesives and other drugs so that they are ever ready to unleash terror on the rest of the society whenever they are called upon to do so by the political wing of almajiris. I strongly recommend that guests at public functions must stop encouraging almajiris by giving them money.


But can government which itself owns the political wing of almajiris arrest this trend? Time will tell.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-149827.0.html