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@Beaf, assuming that Tinubu is found guilty of operating those accounts while in office, what exact is the maximum jail term he would face. I suspect no jail term will be involved - is this just an attempt to prevent Tinubu from contesting as a Pres or VP in 2015? Methinks if Tinubu is not charged and convicted of a more serious crime, then this is a political witch hunt.

Haba after years of threatening this man, can't they find more serious crimes to charge him? EFCC and the code of conduct bureau must either be run by incompetent fools or these wild accusations against Tinubu have no validity or merit.

@Beaf, did I hit a raw nerve?   

BTW, it is the responsibility of your uncle GEJ to manage terrorism and terrorists like MEND and Boko Haram, please address him directly through facebook or any other way you deem fit.

kpogede77 has attempted to exposed you as an ajebutter who cannot speak in his own dialect - please nullify his actions by responding in kind. Since you claim to be part Itshekiri, I am convinced that you are a real Atosiloli and I'm sure wete gwe today.  Find real home boys to translate for you. olodo

FYI, Atosiloli (ato'le; ato s'ile, bed wetter in another language, if it helps)

@jason123, I feel your pain my brother. Your concern is one of the reasons why I think we are better off as one nation.  The bloodshed that will accompany the breaking up of Nigeria will be more than devastating than that of the civil war.

@Beaf, you are better off managing this ekt_bear of a boy before he embarasses you. Never have a prolonged arguement with him because he will wound you with devastating one liners and two liners. He is the very antonym of olodo, besides he is from ekiti - those boys believe in carrying first in secondary schools, in case you've forgotten. na so de boy go yearn like person wey dey ignorant while destroying your logic.

Are you more Ijaw than a waffi dude?  

naijaking1: Once again, anybody trying to say that we don't want these alleagtions investigated is not telling the truth. My point has been with people who want her dismissed, suspended, or even fired before investigations are completed. Justice is never served with a rush to judgement, unless you have an ulterior motive.

naijaking, I admit that I overreacted because of my disappointment, I have edited my first post and the thread's title to appease you. I hope you are  big enough to admit that your post above does not make much sense. Ngozi's camp in their rebuttal stated that extensive investigations were conducted and completed, so why are you now claiming that people do not want these allegations investigated? Are you more knowledgeable than Madam Iweala on this issue?

I expect you of all people to be objective in these matters. Where is your outrage? Why are you willing to give these people an easy pass. You are the same persom who was defending Madam Ibru, even after she stole billions from customers, including the millions of naira you lost because of her activities? You refused to condemn her even after she was eventually convicted? I suspect you have more than an intimate relationship with these people.

That looks like a picture of a boy from Warri.

Kobojunkie:
The Code of Conduct Bureau does not have to want to be seen as credible agency. WE ALL OUGHT TO BE OUT THERE URGING it to INVESTIGATE EVERY LAST ONE OF THESE M***F**KERS for petes Sake! But because we are so divided . . . . so many of us are terrified that if we step out, we will probably be taken down, not by the politicians themselves but our neighbors who admire these same thieves, and are willing to cut down the next man for them.

If not that, why would a bunch of idiots like many of these wield so much power against us ooo, those who elected them in the first place?

+1000

naijaking1:
Haven't you heard them say " you have a right to your own believes, but not your own facts"
Guess what, I believe all muslims are terrorist, but that's just my own belief. If I start making it a fact for all to believe and accept, that's where trouble comes.
Please don't confuse your belief with facts, its a crime against the intellect

(1)Fact: Ngozi admits that the accusations are not new.


Her camp responds thus:

This revelation obviously refers to a previous allegation about one of her brothers which was thoroughly investigated and discredited because it was found to have originated from vested interests. It is shocking that something that was discredited so long ago is being rehashed.


naijaking, have you ever heard of an accusation  such as this, swept under the rug and not reported by a single newspaper, after the said thorough investigation? We are talking about a $50million abuse here.  I wish the accusations are unfounded, but I would like read the report of the said investigation - I'd assume that you share this wish, as well.

Aloy, something tells me you are a bit slow. olodo

ngwanu, what title would have been satisfactory to you?  I saw a thread of yours titled "Okonju Iweala Responds To Wikileaks Scandal "  Would you be happy if I changed my title to "Okonju Iweala's Wikileaks Scandal"? Would this title be considered insulting by you?

Would it be OK with you if I execrised my right to believe whatever story I chose to believe and express my opinion regarding such a belief? abi you be opinion terrorist ni?

Caveat Emptor ko, seal of approval ni. 

I suppose this Caveat Emptor applies to all Wikileaks revelations regarding, Sanusi, along with the Wikileaks posts below:

“Mr. Fix-It” Tony Anenih, who “was indicted by the National Assembly for the sum of 300 billion Naira (approximately $2.4 billion) missing from Ministry of Works and Housing while he was the minister. The missing money is widely believed to have paid off 2003 elections "expenses," including to Balogun, in addition to lining his own pockets.

• Chief Olabode George, current PDP National Chairman (Southwest) is a close friend of President Obasanjo and a leading proponent of the Third Term Agenda. He is one of the people accused of financial recklessness in the affairs of the National Port Authority, where he was chairman when the financial scandals were allegedly committed. He was retired
from the Navy in the 1990s by the Babangida Administration after serving as military governor of Ondo State from 1987 to 1990 in addition to other military postings.

• Chris Uba, recently appointed to the PDP Board of Trustees, admitted rigging during the 2003 elections and attempted to kidnap the governor of Anambra state to try to collect payments for his efforts. Linked closely to several vigilante groups in the state, he is widely believed to be
responsible for the burning of many state government buildings in Awka, crimes that have yet to be solved.

• Edo State governor Lucky Igbenedion purchased a $6 million mansion in London in 2000 through a series of shell companies, a year after he was elected governor. He has two Ferraris on the premises. He also owns reputedly the most expensive residence in Abuja, estimated at $25 million
Delta State governor James Ibori owns two London estates. The properties were purchased for $3 million and $4 million, respectively, after Ibori was elected governor. Through a shell company registered to his London-based wife, he offered for public auction an ongoing supply of 6 million barrels of oil per month. When reporters confronted his wife, the shell companies abruptly changed their directors so that Ibori's wife was no longer listed.

• Rivers State governor Peter Odili has built an impressive portfolio from his corrupt dealings as governor of one of the oil-rich states in Nigeria since his first election in 1999. Beginning his political career as a medical doctor with a small private clinic in Port Harcourt, he now hosts
extravagant events and boasts that it would not have been possible "before he became governor." Further, he is widely suspected of being directly responsible for facilitating massive irregularities in both the 1999 and 2003 elections. His own state officials have claimed that Odili has employed militia groups, many of which are responsible for the continuing unrest in the delta region.

The ambassador said that that the biggest influence the United States could have on the situation in Nigeria was the “judicious use” of U.S. visa revocation for corrupt practices, under US law.

ati be be lo.

[quote author=aloy/emeka link=topic=756691.msg9121789#msg9121789 date=1315696735]So you have taken it upon yourself to insult a respectable woman because of wikileak gossip?. The least you can do is give her a benefit of the doubt but you continued to rain abuses on her person without minding whether the allegation is true or false. Frustration has a way of getting into our heads o,[/quote]Please show me the insult and I'll take corrrective measures. Note that I have every right to be disappointed at any act, by Ngozi or anyone else, I deem disappointing.

naijaking1: I know you can do better, but since tribal politics is involved, I don't trust you 
I know that you and other tribal foul-mouths on this thread can't wait to hang 'something, anything on Iweala, but I have been waiting for you to post the rebuttal by Mallam El-Rufia on this topic, but you wouldn't.

Nwannem, did you said you don’t trust me because tribal politics is involved in this matter?  You are the one introducing tribalism into this thread. I am only expressing my disappointment in a lady, who has been an idol worthy of respect and honour until this revelation. This wikileaks revelation, at the very least, should cause reasonable people to watch her very closely this time around. To be honest with you, what she is accused of doing is the order of the day in naija. I had assumed that this lady was above the act and I am simply expressing my disappointment, as you should.

I don’t care whether she is from the North or East, these corrupt leaders must be held to a high standard.  You should be calling for an investigation to uncover why this accusation, acknowledged by her, has been kept as a secret up till now. Who is covering up and not giving her the opportunity to clear her name?

BTW, El Rufai was allegedly the co-conspirator who helped Ngozi ith the perpetration of the crime. Using a co-conspirator’s rebuttal to exonerate Ngozi, is laughable, to say the least.

@Onlytruth, we already know that you will never express any outrage when corruption and theft by 'leaders' from your region is exposed. I say shame on you for that.

Corruption is never OK, my disappointment at Ngozi cannot be overstated. Many Nigerians are just as disappointed as I am. Youths like you should be protesting and demanding accountability from your leaders, it is quite a pity that you people choose to be enablers instead. olodo, barawo banza.

A few days ago, we were told that Okonjo-Iweala vows to tackle corruption https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-755463.0.html .

The revelations below leaves a biiter taste in my mouth, I just lost my respect for this lady. She too is allegedly thief. I am beginning to wonder  whether her priority to pay down dubious debts obtained by dubious governments, was done in the best interest of Nigerians. All her activities should be watched very closely from now on.

As Minister of Finance under the government of Olusegun Obasanjo, Nigeria’s returnee Minister of Finance and Coordinating Minister for the Economy, Mrs. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, steered public contracts to her brother worth up to $50 million, with the help of the Minister of the Federal Capital Territory, Mr. Nasir El-Rufai, yet another WikiLeaks US cable issued in 2006 says.
The contracts were said to have been awarded to the man, identified only as “JonJon,” for consulting work for the ministry.
The detailed cable, which spells out corruption allegations against a variety of powerful Nigerians, are contained in a cable in which the United States was considering response to the corruption machine in Nigeria.  Entitled “CORRUPTION: NIGERIA "IMPROVES" TO SIXTH-WORST IN THE WORLD, WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT?” it followed the release by Transparency International of its 2005 Annual Corruption Perceptions, and it was written by the Ambassador in Nigeria, Mr. John Campbell.
It showed the ambassador considering using the tool of U.S. visa revocations under Presidential Proclamation 7750 to punish corrupt Nigerian public officials, after noting that President Obasanjos anti-corruption campaign was widely perceived to be nothing more than a political witch hunt by President Obasanjo, a view supported by examining cases targeted at high-level officials.
Mr. El-Rufai was himself one of those profiled in the cable, where he is identified as having been known to the Embassy eight years earlier “when he was homeless and seeking a loan to import a taxi from the UK.”

Read the rest of the sad story here:http://saharareporters.com/news-page/wikileaks-okonjo-iweala-ferried-50-million-jobs-brother

peckhamboi:
When will you guys start taking responsibilitty for your actions? You deny facts and always blame everybody else for your problems. It shows you guys in very bad light.

Confirmed by Vanguard

“Consequently, on 4th August, 2011, a suspect who is a Nigerian national was apprehended in connection with the bombing incident in Suleja. He confessed to his involvement in the bombings as well as his membership of the Boko Haram sect”.

“His confession led to the arrest of a thirty-one (31) year old indigene of Imo State who converted to Islam in 2003. [/b]The second suspect, who is born of a Nigerian mother, was brought up in Niger Republic , where he had his early education. He also admitted to being a member of the Boko Haram sect as well as having worked in concert with a third suspect from Kano State to carry out attacks in Suleja”.


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/09/terrorism-here-to-stay-azazi-nsa/

And according to Guardian, The SSS, which declined to disclose the name of the suspect until it completes ongoing investigation, said [b]the man, whose mother is a Nigerien, is an indigene of Imo State and got converted to Islam in 2003.

Why my Igbo brothers no fit keep their prick within Nigeria, for crying out loudly? Chei, of all the Igbo fine babes wey dey, na woman from Niger republic wey person fit find?

Naijaking: Most people will fight to put out the fire first and then deal with the erosion later.

I don’t particularly disagree with the above. I do wish to know why you did not make the same statement with the same vigor, when MEND blew up innocent Nigerians in Abuja last October.
[quote author=Beaf ]Boko haram is the only terrorist organisation in Nigeria. Period.[/quote]As I’ve stated,  terrorism is terrorism regardless of the origin of the terrorist organization. As far as I am concerned, MEND and Boko Haram have perpetrated terrorist acts against my dear country and their financiers must be brough to book with immediate effect.
We know that certain South South governors were financiers of MEND’s - those ex governors should be brought to book along with the other identified financiers who are also, by definition, terrorists.
Your bit about Aboki MEND is hilarious and sounds as ridiculous as Telema Boko Haram, Tonye Boko Haram, or Mavor Boko Haram.   

naijaking1:
Once again, you're mudding the water. We're talking about Boko Haram and muslim extremism, not MEND, MASSOB, etc. There's no top goverment security official parading as an unofficial mouth piece of either MEND or MASSOB, and you know it.
Israeli assistance is needed, because we have an over-riding influence of the Arabs on our soil. Even our currency somehow has arabic inscriptions on it-----that tells you how deep their influence runs into our fabric, and a reason to begin a gradual pushback with the help of the MOSSAD.
Long live Israel!!!!
Their involvement is the consequence those threatening GEJ to make Nigeria ungovernable with violence did not anticipate

I'm afraid, my view is different from yours in a very superior and more reasonable manner. We have to discuss the issue within the framework of the real problem of terrorism in Nigeria. The known financiers of these terrorist activities, whether they are in government or not should be rounded up and summarily judged, period. It does not matter to me whether they finance MEND, Boko Harm, or MASSOB. There is no such thing as ok terrorism, so so terrorism, or any other form of terrorism which should be acceptable to us in Nigeria. All terrorists deserve the same fate.

[quote author=alex_101 link=topic=752466.msg9087013#msg9087013 date=1315260081] Haba alh. ndu_shehu, it's me auwal87, your nightmare and one of the voices that will end your "one-nigeria" [/quote]lol, characters dey for NL. Egbe ndi Israeli, piafuka gi blockus, additionally Okwute palestinian piafuka gi isi. Ewu can beer.

I thought as much!! If a lawyer's dispute of the facts of a case, consists only of the statement "MY NAME IS EKO ILE AND I DISPUTE RUBBISH AND MADE UP NONSENSE DJUSTICE POSTED AS FACT', I'm afraid the lawyer will not only be laughed off, but will certainly not win the case.  What a presentation, carry go, Eko Ile.  

[quote author=alex_101 link=topic=752466.msg9086847#msg9086847 date=1315258451]Alh ndu_shehu, how market? Why are you against the truth? I strongly believe that you're a beneficiary of the corruption in nigeria. The dude auwal87 speaks the truth and shall remain in his ancestral home. You on the other hand, shall be chased into niger republic or chad .[/quote]hmmm, who are you re? This must be a newly created userid; what was your old userid, I promise not to beat me if you tell me?  Shehu ko, Seyitan ni.  

@auwal87, I've been following your posts and wish to inform you that you are under my radar. Most of us do not share your wish to destroy our country. You are on notice. Those who continue to support the very minority of Moslems who have hijacked islam with their warped interpretations will be vigorously opposed. Additionally, those of you who continue to support the 'leaders' who have brought nothing but sorrow to our people, have their days numbered. I'd strongly recommend that people like you should migrate to Yemen or Somalia. olodo

Onlytruth:
Posted by: ndu_chucks
I know you 5h!t your pants when you learned that I have AN ADVANCED DEGREE, stuff your brothers who ran Nigeria into the ground for 50 years lacked. And the fact that it shocked you, reveals the inner workings of your gobbled up Nigerian mindset. Folks with advanced degrees in Nigeria don't have time to care about what THIEVES and MASS MURDERERS like you are up to, ko ba haka ba? Because they are busy pursuing evil lucre.

Your attempt to change the subject as usual using pedestrian and crude tactics fell flat again.
Hear this loud and clear: Ordinary Igbo folks like myself can do what all your leaders in the north can only dream of.
That is why Nigeria will divide, no matter how many years it takes, and no matter how many international criminal and devilish brotherhoods support its continued existence.

God still owns this earth; ka ji ko?!

I think I hit a soft spot there. I didn't mean to expose ya yansh, ndo o.

Beaf:

Who is gonna arrest the financiers of MOSSAD?

lol, I meant MASSOB, not MOSSAD. It must be the evening red wine.

PointB & Onlytruth, shatap dia!! What would be your own suggestion to the authorities regarding how to arrest the situation at hand? I'm tired of you people continuing to carry on as if we are still in the elections period. Let us do our best to support the President instead of carrying on with useless diatribes.

GEJ will be in office untill 2015 unless he is legally removed or done in 'providence'. Constructive criticisms are legitimate support BTW.

It is not a good idea to bring in MOSSAD.  That idea is the quickest way to turn Nigeria into a battle ground for Arab-Israeli conflicts.  I'd be happier and more satisfied if the known finaciers and supporters of these terrorost groups, MEND, Boko-Haram, Movement for the Actualization of the Sovereign State of Biafra (MASSOB) , and others are arrested and summarily judged.

This Israeli deal could be welcomed only by people who have no vested interest in our dear country and who possibly live abroad. Let it be known that the likes of these non patriotic and ignorant fools will be fought until the last pure Nigerian blood is exhausted. Shikena.

@Eko-ile, there is no need for juvenile name calling please: Do you or do you not dispute the following facts? Please note that facts are can always be disputed as routinely done in courts.

If the house will recall, Alhaji Musiliu Smith was the Inspector General of Police when the late Gani Fawehinmi sought an order of Mandamus compelling the IG to investigate Bola Ahmed Tinubu's whereabouts between 1982 and 1989, with specific regard to his claim to have graduated from the university of Chicago, from the court of the corrupt Justice Oguntade.

Oguntade refused to grant the order, with Fashola and Dapo Durosinmi-Etti acting as bag men for Tinubu to those who needed to be bribed, and Afikuyomi taking the fall. By the time the smoke cleared and the bank consolidation was over, Musiliu Smith was rewarded with the position of Chairman of Skye Bank PLC, a position he held until 2010.

djustice:
Iragbiji-Ile (a.k.a. Eko-Ile), do you see that the curses of Lagosians are beginning to affect you and your ilk? It always starts almost unnoticably, subtly. I stated that Tinubu owns 35% of Skye Bank, and you retorted that I said he owns 36% of the businesses I listed. You are a young man, so it cannot be senility. It can only be the cumulative effect of millions of curses raining down on you and your type from deprived Lagosians. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

If the house will recall, Alhaji Musiliu Smith was the Inspector General of Police when the late Gani Fawehinmi sought an order of Mandamus compelling the IG to investigate Bola Ahmed Tinubu's whereabouts between 1982 and 1989, with specific regard to his claim to have graduated from the university of Chicago, from the court of the corrupt Justice Oguntade.

Oguntade refused to grant the order, with Fashola and Dapo Durosinmi-Etti acting as bag men for Tinubu to those who needed to be bribed, and Afikuyomi taking the fall. By the time the smoke cleared and the bank consolidation was over, Musiliu Smith was rewarded with the position of Chairman of Skye Bank PLC, a position he held until 2010.

@Eko-ile, do you agree with the facts as stated by djustice above?

Lets hope you guys are not gullible enough to believe that everything in these cables constitutes the gospel truth and accurate accounts of the events reported.

Some of these cables are filled with lies and made-up stories by the people who send the cables. Make una shine una eyes.

I would have suggested that IMO government offer the officials with those vehicles a deal, wherein they pay only N3million for each such vehicle in their possession. Those cars are worth N4 - N8million on the average. Such a deal would have raised N300 - N500million naira for the government. That opportunity is not yet lost, the deal can still be offered in light of the fact that the government still owes car dealers N100million.

The cars that are not repurchased should be auctioned off to pay off the said loans and recover some of the waste. Good move by IMO state government.

If USA has enough information to put these people on their terrorist watch list, why has GEJ and his security operatives not arrested the said sponsors? Who are these sponsors? I am beginning to suspect that the sponsors are non existent and a figment of some people's imagination.

Mr. Pesident, name them, arrest them, lock them up summarily if they exist, the Nigerian people will rally behind you on this matter.

Onlytruth:
Posted by: nasoeb
@na_so

I want to share a little personal thought with you.
Today, in the course of my professional duties I ran into a Ghananian (an Ashanti), and we were reviewing a development plan here in the US. In this team, only both of us are blacks -Nigerian/US (me) and Ghanaian/US (he).
When he started to make his presentation, for some minutes, I lost concentration and went into deep thoughts.
What was I thinking about?
Well, he reminded me of another Ghanaian I met in graduate school. There is yet another Ghanaian I worked with some years back. They all behave the same way -VERY HARD WORKING, DISCIPLINED, PEACEFUL and AMBITIOUS. I then remembered how Ghanaians used to dominate strong positions in the Nigerian football league in the 80s and 90s. Even one of my lecturers at UNN was a Ghanaian. When I continued to think of these, it suddenly occurred to me that average Ghanaians are just like typical IGBO folks. We Ndigbo have far more in common with Ghanaians than with some groups within Southern Nigeria and Nigeria as whole!
Give me a Ghanaian anyday instead of some of the lazy folks in parts of SS.
The only fight Igbo will have over anything in SS is for Igbo territory. Whoever wants to join us has to put in an application which has to be studiously scrutinized before acceptance, because we can't drag alone dead woods!

To find out that a person with a advanced degree routinely lacks the ability to reason objectively and bases his thoughts on juvenile generalizations, is disappointing, to say the least. I always suspected that you suffered from Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD), but your confirmation of the ailment's symptoms in your write-up above has confirmed my suspicion.

I though you had more in common with Jews, I suppose that is no longer the case since your interactions with a couple of Ghana folks were enough for your generalizations. olodo, ewu abriba.  

blackpanda:
Dont mind them, it is only how to murmur and complain they know. Ask them for their opinion on how to improve anything eg security, economy, living standards etc, they have none!

How many of 'them' are you referring to, olodo? Have you read any of my posts at all?