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edoyad:Good to know that a 'non northerner' like you is now seeing the light - welcome home. For us to experience the China-like economic growth you mentioned, we need to wipe MEND and its sympathisers out. This terrorist group enjoyed pity from most Nigerians until they started killing innocent people. We need to seek the urgent assistance of our allies including trhe USA, UK, China, to help us in executing an immediate millitary solution to the MEND problem. We need drones and heat seeking missiles to smoke the terrorists out of their camps. |
FACE:FACE, I never accused you of showing any form of hatred for northerners, in fact I know enough about you not to expect the portrayal of such hatred. According to the agreement that gave rise to Jonathan as VP, the next PDP presidential candidate should come from the North - that’s all I am pointing out. I agree with you that we all should be supporting the best candidate for the country based on their leadership abilities and vision. Most people, including you, would agree with me that Jonathan does not possess these qualities. Pat Utomi has been stained by his loan scandal as far as I am concerned and Duke’s Tinapa theft is not a quality I admire. You by the way have refused to mention Ribadu or Gusau– I wonder why. |
Beaf:What da heck is core North? |
Onlytruth:Onlytruth, please elaborate on the bolded part of your post. What exactly do you mean by this punch – I’m sure you are bold enough to speak clearly. I promise not to come and beat you. |
Dede1:Dede1, I appreciate your objectivity and the honesty of the above post. You seem to be one of the few who are bright enough to grasp the issues being raised. I am tempted to call you a detribalized Nigerian. By the way, my comment on the “south-south rule” was designed to cause pain to the poster called Ono and nothing else. |
FACE:I expected you, of all people, to have a nationalist take on these issues as opposed to a tribalistic one. Your hatred for Northerners will do nothing but continue to eat you up. The issue being discussed is really a PDP affair and I’m afraid you cannot discuss it rationally with a tribalist mind set. You have already defeated yourself by insinuating that the next President must come from the PDP party. Shame on you. You educated ones should be working on a viable opposition to PDP rather than taking this losing stance. IBB, Atiku, and Buhari are not the only Northerners running for the Presidency, you have other options, if you really want to vote for a Northerner. Remember that no one believed that Obama could win in the last US presidential election – we now know better. |
Beaf:Can you read at all? I told you that I will post excerps from Abdullahi's interview for your enjoyment and discussion. The Groundnut issues for the first excerp and Edwin Clark's exposure was the second. olodo. Onlytruth:What makes you think that I or Ango Abdullahi speaks for the North? Please stop allowing tribalism becloud your better judgement. You are not even a card carrying member of the PDP so I don't understand why you are crying more than the bereaved. If you are capable, comment on the excerp and leave your tribalism and myopic views behind. Rakumin dajij. |
Beaf:You can laugh all you want, the laughter is expected from you and the likes of Edwin Clark and GEJ. You have no idea what agreements mean, lets hope you'll have the last laugh. The same agreement that made GEJ VP and President is what he has chosen to dishonour. That says a lot about the man. You, olodo, are a well known tribalist and your reaction is expected. Rakumin dajij; sleepless c.ockroach. |
ono:Unbelievable!! This is the kind of misdirected understanding that continues to make you people subservient to your Igbo lords, you will ultimately be ruled by them. Mark my word. I hereby continue with excerps from a recent interview of Professor Ango Abdullahi, former Vice-Chancellor of Ahmadu Bello University, Zaria: What is your opinion on Edwin Clark and others who have been clamouring for Jonathan to vie in 2011? [b]This is why I wrote him a letter to remind him. I wrote him a letter personally on why he should tread with caution. We visited Warri a number of times. We had several meetings with the South-South people–mainly Ijaws–in Abuja, and that is how we agreed that they will support a northern presidential aspiration. But they will also want a South-southerner to be the vice-president, specifically, in the words of Edwin Clark, an ‘Ijaw man’. There are several tribes in South-South but he insisted on an Ijaw man. It worked out in the end. I Hope Clark will remember all these. He is not guiding Jonathan along the path of this agreement or understanding that it would get to them, after the North would have run its eight years. And if things work out the way we plan, the South-South will take its turn in 2015. And by that time it is the vice-president from that zone that will perhaps, depending on how he performs, emerge as the president. That was our agreement. But now, they want to disown that agreement and still want the North to support Jonathan to continue as president. Something must be wrong with the way they think.[/b] Integrity is not a word that comes to mind whenever the name Edwin Clark is mentioned !! |
You guys need to read more about the founding fathers of your nation. Tafawa Balewa was known throughout the world as the "Golden Voice Of Africa" because of his eloquence and command of the English language . Its a shame that many posters are oblivious to this fact. |
Beaf:Don't be silly, not using the spellchecker does not make his posted remarks unreadable. You can dance with the Abriaba people for all I care, the truth in my statement remains. Ono, even you sef dey enjoy cheap shot, ko? |
[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=519780.msg6829245#msg6829245 date=1285583947] Beaf,I have told you not to lie again,your conjectures are becoming so irritating to bear.oil palm have contributed nothing to nigeria economy and I have shown you more sources to prove that Cocoa and groundnut sustained nigeria and contributed to the economy than a worthless commodity called oil palm.[/quote]Beaf cannot get away with streatching the truth here because knowkeadgeable people will call him out. His statements are becoming too much to bear. @Ibime, no one can accuse you of being a forward thinking nationalist. I'd recommend that you consider thinking along nationalistic lines. ono:Please educate these people. Onlytruth should change his name to Onlylie or OnlyIgnorance. olodo. |
solvakia:o boy, you sound like a bonafide intellectual midget. ono:I'm sure you know that the likes of MaziUche0 believe that you are occupying their land and that all the resources found in your area belong to them. Ibime:Ibime, stop pretending to be stupid, I have made no such insinuation. As to your question, I refer you to my response to another brain-dead poster: I feel sorry for you people who continue to believe that we must continue to base our economy on the sharing of oil revenue under the guise of some resource control balony. Wake up! Only 20% of Nigerians are benefiting from the said oil resources, even if you people get 70%, the best of you, like Ibori and co, will pocket most of the money as they've always done, and you'll keepo worshiping them. The focus should be on how to escape the debilitating Dutch disease and resource curse syndromes ravaging the country as whole. The question of how we move from the paradox stagnation and poverty traps in the midst of resource abundance to growth and prosperity wisely harnessing our God-given human and natural resources for the common good is what our presidential candidates should be answering. Clueless GEJ has never offered any ideas on this important issue. |
Beaf:I expected this kind of a response from you. Its your usual way of escaping, I'll let you off the hook this time arround. Eh, does your candidate or you, know what the Dutch disease is? You don't have to answer the question or provide us with how your candidate has addressed the issue or plans to do so. Rakumin dajij. ![]() I shall continue with my excerps in due course. |
Beaf:Kindly itemize the plans for those of us who are not aware of them. Please remember to mention the plans he has implemented to the said end, since he has been the President. |
Nsiman:Resource control ko, female genetalia control ni. I feel sorry for you people who continue to believe that we must continue to base our economy on the sharing of oil revenue under the guise of some resource control balony. Wake up! Only 20% of Nigerians are benefiting from the said oil resources, even if you people get 70%, the best of you, like Ibori and co, will pocket most of the money as they've always done, and you'll keepo worshiping them. The focus should be on how to escape the debilitating Dutch disease and resource curse syndromes ravaging the country as whole. The question of how we move from the paradox stagnation and poverty traps in the midst of resource abundance to growth and prosperity wisely harnessing our God-given human and natural resources for the common good is what our presidential candidates should be answering. Clueless GEJ has never offered any ideas on this important issue. |
Beaf:As expected, you missed the point completely. Your assumption that I was making fun of GEJ's look shows that you are a dummy who is incapable of processing complex statements expressed in simple English. The similarity between GEJ and OBJ' lies in the fact that OBJ did not do much to cure the country of the so-called Dutch disease and Jonathan has done nothing about it either. As a presidential candidate, GEJ has not offered any solution to the problem either. (I'm assuming here that you are well-read enough to know what the Dutch disease is) Oil and gas discovery and the mismanagement of the huge export revenue inflows from these resources destroyed Nigeria’s agricultural mainstay and economic backbone. As a consequence, more than 70% of Nigerians hardly survive on less than US$2 a day. The revenues from the export of Nigeria’s petroleum resources are consumed by less than 20% of the populace while more than 100 million Nigerians do not enjoy any appreciable benefit. What is GEJ's proposed solution to these issues? Why do you keep supporting this clueless man simply because he hails from an oil producing region? What are GEJ's plans to address the issues I've raised? I will posts additional excerps from the interview referenced in the first post of this thread right after you address the questions I've asked. olodo. |
Beaf:You don't get to choose which period to base the discussion on, while the thread's title clearly mentions 1914, 1945, 1960. As I stated earlier, in the 1960s, the Nigerian economy was driven largely by the non-oil sector, especially agriculture. The heart of the economy was located in the North. Note also that Nigeria was the largest exporter of Cocoa during that period. You people in the so-called South South contributed insignificantly to the economy (zilch is probably the best description for your contributions) - you have been parasites all along, yet you are the first to quickly call others parasites (how ungrateful) because probably 28% of oil deposits in Nigeria are found in your region - let me add here that the oil is actually located in government owned land. Suddenly you want a clueless man and underachiever in the person of GEJ to become president! You people and your oil have been a curse to Nigerians. I'll be back later to give you details. Mgbo piafuka gi isi, all of you pirates and terrorists. @~Bluetooth , please continue to educate these coneheads including our in-house jomo gbomo. Beaf does not know hopw to lose any arguement gracefully. He will resort to name calling and even use some of Becomerich's mapping tools to attempt to make himself look good. He fails to realize that no matter how many make-up artists Jonathan has, he'll still be as handsome as OBJ. |
papas:papas, You quote does not do justice to the issue being discussed. The quoted article is titled "STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNANCE IN NIGERIA". You need to examine and read more about economic activities in the periods in question to begin to grasp the points being made. What you have done is tantamount to quoting one verse in the Bible or Qur'an and then justifying male chauvinism with the said verse. |
Beaf:If your documentary evidence was from accounts given by Sir George Goldie, then you should go and hide your head in the sand, in shame! Please quote reliable authors if you want to be taken seriously. I will return shortly to show you the fallacy of your claims in several posts, of northern parasitism. If anybody be parasite, na all of una. I dey come. |
Dede1:Stop your relentless attempt at rewriting Nigerian history. First of all, Biafra did not exist prior to the war, and has never existed as a nation, recognized by UN or any other credible foreign body. I am disappointed that you can publicly and boldly insinuate that Chukwuma Kaduna was a treacherous southern Nigerian and also that Ojukwu, was a treacherous southern Nigeria. Most would agree that these 2 names cannot be omitted when naming some southerners whose actions significantly contributed, to say the least, to the civil war. |
FACE:I share your concern for the flood victims. The culprit of the disasater is the Chief Engineer incharge of overseeing the activities that lead to the disaster. Guess what his first name is - Engr. Okechukwu. I have to believe that there was no conspiracy involved in the tragedy. |
Beaf:Beaf, you are beginning to sound like a broken record and your write-up above is filled with elements of gross intellectual dishonesty. Those who are not lazy and would do the appropriate research will confirm that prior to the discovery of oil, Nigeria enjoyed the luxury of God blessing it with vast agricultural and solid mineral resources. Infact by 1960, Nigerian economy was driven largely by the non-oil sector, especially agriculture: [list] [li]Agriculture contributed 70 per cent of non oil GDP.[/li] [li] Employed about 65 per cent of the total labour force [/li] [li] The country enjoyed moderate standard of living; food self-sufficiency and was a net exporterof agricultural commodities. [/li] [/list] Let me add that most of the said Agric based economic activities took place in Northern Nigeria. Olodo. |
Here is an interesting take by a great academician, according to several sources - an excerp from a recent interview of Professor Ango Abdullahi, former Vice-Chancellor of Ahmadu Bello University, Zaria: South-South, the oil-rich region is popularly described as the goose that lays the golden egg but deprived of the benefits therefrom. Some opponents of zoning want Jonathan who is from that zone to run for president in 2011 just to make those long suffering people happy? I say, where was the South-South in 1914? And where was the South-South in 1945, 1960? Where were the eggs being laid and hatched? It is in the record that, it was the farmers in the North that produced the groundnuts and resources that supplemented the various budgets of the West and East up till 1970. Recently, Adamu Fika put down the figures, year by year in terms of federal budgets and regional budgets and how much resources had to be wired from the northern area to other parts of the country to run their governments. Simply because some new ducks are laying eggs now, the chickens of previous years are no more important. The notion that the area of the country that produces the most resources each time should produce the leadership of the country is very nonsensical. I'd also add that the vast majority of our oil deposits which are located hundreds of miles from the coast is not in the South South, East, West, or any other region. Most of the oil is in Nigeria's sovereign region, so you people cannot singularly claim this oil. If una like make una secceed along with Eziachi, FACE, Beaf and their cohorts, we go still keep most of de oil for out off-shore terrritory. We fed you people with groundnuts from the North back in the days and with Cocoa proceeds, una no complain then, so make una take chill pill. |
Please how much would you Lagos clear a 2008 ML350 and 2004 Honda Pilot? |
marvix:The bolded statement above is very prejudicial and narrow minded. You probably do not know the man enough to make such a statement. Do you have any concrete evidence that being a campaign manager will make his reporting less objective than they've always been? |
One can see very clearly that the so-called informed Nigerians are also not quite ready for democracy. I'm referring to the posters on this thread who do not understand that in a democracy, Dokpesi is free to support whomever he wishes. This same contributors will claim that they do not believe in dictatorship. olodo |
When did Ribadu become a member of the ACN party? How many ACN governors do we have in the country? Given the realities on ground, it is impossible for ACN to win the presidential elections of 2011 as its obvious to educated observers. Why then will Ribadu decide to contest under the umbrella of ACN? This story would have been more believable if we are told that Ribadu has joined PDP and plans to run for the office of President. Ribadu is no fool, ACN and Tinubu should look within for their candidate - Ribadu will not join their party. |
Very Sad. May their souls rest in peace Long before she was shot dead by her husband in a murder-suicide in Reading, Cheryl V. Okafor was a victim of domestic violence. |
Dede1:Please explain what you mean by draconian economic strangulation of eastern regional states and how the same has negatively affected individual entrepreneurship in the said region. Why is it that entrepreneurs from the said region thrive in places as far away as Sokoto, Kano, Kaduna, Maiduguri e.t.c. but somehow their successes, according to you, are limited in the east? Is this your usual victim card or were you attempting to be funny? Beaf:For once, I'm tempted to agree with you. |
Jonathan, Jonathan, Jonathan Goodluck!! How many times I call ya name?? This PDP rotation agreement gave us OBJ from the south, then Yar'Adua (RIP) from the North. Now Jonathan wants to complete the remaining 5 year term alloteds to the North, ko?? When the power shifts to the South in 2015 (assuming that other parties do not get their acts together), with a southerner as President and a Northerner as his vice, let's hope you people will exhibit the kind of understanding you are giving to Jonathan, when the President from the South suddenly dies (mysteriously or otherwise) and the Northern vice president claims the right to finish the terms of that presidency (all 8 years). Jonathan should do the honourable thing. olodo |
It seems to me as if most of the commentators so far, are not card carrying members of the PDP. I say this because some of their suggestions would simply destroy PDP. I venture to say that PDP members are not suicidal and plan to continue to rule Nigeria for some time. If jettisoning Mallam Goodluck will facilitate this objective, then that will indeed happen. You people that are not PDP members should go and form your own parties and challenge PDP, lame excuses are getting old. |
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