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@Onlytruth & Beef, sorry I was away on heavy duty millitary duties. Some of us have to protect you people despite the fact that we should be caining you for your various attrocities.

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WTF 3-0!! I'm shutting down the TV.

@Naijaking,

I think we can safely conclude that you are not a card carrying member of the PDP, and if you are, you should be expelled from the party. As stated by Dede1 and agreed to by Sapeleguy, the PDP gentleman's agreement should be honoured - its the right thing to do, QED.

Now, you of all people, who have lived abroad and seen how democracy works, should understand that it is part of the democratic process for groups who share common interests to rally arround any candidate of their choice. It is healthy for the so-called Northern elders/leaders to rally arround their candidate of choice or oppose him/her as they deem fit.

You and others who do not like it, can do the exact same thing!  Besides, why are you people giving yourselves severe stress over issues that do not concern you - most of you do not even belong to the PDP.

Go and form a mega party and oppose the PDP!! I'm tired of your excuses already. Pretty soon you will blame the Northerners' divide and rule tactics for causing your failure and inability to form an effective opposition party.

@Babapupa,

Your thesis, in response to my last post, was for the most part, hogwash and a bunch of bull. Your humane way of dealing with these people is to give them 2 years to move when it is obvious that these people have no means of relocating. Most of them hardly make enough money to survive.

I submit to you that it is the responsibility of the government to provide the environment that will enable these people to exist beyond subsistence. Many of these people are traders, I'm yet to hear of any micromarket financing program or business development program set up by the government to assist these traders in taking their business to the next level, before bulldozing their way of life.

These people should be treated as refugees of war, relocated, and resettled appropriately. One effect of the government's actions is to breed a new set of angry armed robbers who will terrorise Lagosians. When you elitists become victims of their reaction, you will learn to be more humane.

There is nothing wrong with what the government is trying to do, the execution of the plan is what I find insensitive and inhumane. The plan could have been executed in a more humane manner - no sensible person should argue with this fact.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=461561.msg6208766#msg6208766 date=1276459848]they didnt travel to south africa on government expenses but with monies that belong to you and i;wasting of resources on irrelevant occasion when millions of nigeria live in abject poverty is a bad idea. [/quote]I hope you can produce your tax clearance papers to show that some of that money is yours. I will also accept your submission that one or two oil wells are being drilled on your ancestral property.

babapupa:
so the government should start giving out money for ilegal slums and shanties? Very smart.

Your response does not come accross as a briliant one in this case. In case you missed my point, I wrote:

Fashola could implement these bulldozing activities in a more humane and fair manner.

If all you got out of my post was that I was calling for the government to start giving out money for illegal slums and shanties, then your motives are questionable at best.

Bankole is sliding towards a very slippery slope.

I venture to say that most of those who are criticizing the 62 senators are hypocrites - not a single one of these critics would turn down the opportunity to travel to SA at the government's expense. You people should sharaaap already.

Their primary aim was to go to SA and offer support to our President and the next world cup champions - the Nigerian national football team - there is nothing wrong with that. na jealousy go kill una finish.

Go and run for office and change the situation in the senate if you feel that changes need to be made. All the yapping here will have zero effect on the status quo. Can you people even name the senators and Reps from your state? olodo

In as much as one could acknowledge the right Lagos Government to so-called eminenet domain, enabling them to seize individual property such as land, for the greater good of the state, it is noteworthy that in the developed world, when this government right is used, the affected people are adequately compensated.

Not compensating the affected people simply breeds resentment, criminals, and bad citizens. Fashola could implement these bulldozing activities in a more humane and fair manner.

evil666:
Lets form our political party
Niaraland Democratic Party (NDP)
We can nominate a vibrant person here to represent us
I believe we can win the whole youth in the country and present a vibrant leader who will have the youths and Nigerians at heart
Dont laugh it out, we can force those old, retarded, archaic, unrepented, devilish and barbaric so-called leaders out of the game.

Let’s go there!
NDP, power for naija

which kind party leaders be dis wey no sabi spell. Nairaland no be de same as Niaraland, if una wan succeed una go need to be more meticulous than dis. olodo

OMO IBO:
Do you guys ever plan on taking your tongues off America's a55hole anytime soon?
What a load of utter bunkum!
Lick Obama's raw behind cos of Ibori! You gast to be laughing.

You sound quite naive. Only a foolish leader will fail to cash in on his political capital, particularly if it will result to the prompt achievemnent of the leader's objectives. You sound like an intellectual midget who is ignorant of how foreign policies and interactions occur. Correct me if I'm wrong.

If this story is true, then Goodluck Jonathan is not as savvy as most of us wish he is. If GJ's administration is serious about fighting corruption as the world has been promised, all GJ has to do is call Obama and ask him to put pressure on UAE to extradite Ibori, shikena.

GJ is beginning to appear like one of the boys - there may be nothing special about him afterall.

Beaf:
Uncle Joe is da dude!
The one with the plan, vision and intelligence to take Nigeria to the next step come 2011!
Jonathan, don't look back; 2011 is yours already!

Uncle Joe ko, auntie Jemima ni. Goodluck Jonathan has never campaigned for any elected office on his own, he has simply ascended to various offices out of coincidence. The man has no real vision to move Nigeria forward, if he does, he is yet to tell the electorate about it.

The earlier you people started demanding the very best leadership for yourselves, the better off incoming generations will be. Stop worshiping a visionless GJ simply because he is from your region, you should have been more sophisticated than that, by now. olodo.

Any fool can top the achievement of Nigeria's recent heads of state.

Please post links or text of GJ vision and plans for Nigeria or his master plan. This man is uniquely positioned to make some bold and positive revolutionary moves - my esp tells me that he is not a true leader who can do such.

I wonder what you people will do when sisi GJ announces to the world that he will honour the PDP power rotation agreement and wait until 2015.

Methinks Ibori arranged the raid himself in a pitiful attempt to help his cause of seeking assylum in Dubai. He will rot in jail soon enough, olodo.

@Poster LOOOOL.

You people must not underestimate the intelligence of our policemen. If you take away the pockets, these policemen will simply resort to carrying duffle bags arround or they will find a taylor to sow hidden compartments in their new uniforms.

Late last year the Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, called on the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) to explain why its bank-note firm's dealings with Nigeria involved multimillion-dollar payments to offshore tax havens. Sanusi described as "disturbing" the revelation that more than N1.5bn ($10m) in commissions were wired to accounts - including some in secretive tax havens - by the RBA's bank-note firm, Securency.

Many Sanusi critics including the usual suspects of NL, accused Sanusi of another implied smear campaign, designed to diss his predecessor Soludo.  If indeed Sanusi's allegations were true, Soludo couldn not claim to have been ignorant of the affair since he was privy to the same information at Sanusi's disposal.

Well, 234next is now reporting the following:

Excerp

In Australia, new facts are emerging to implicate top Nigerian Central Bank officials in the polymer banknotes bribery scandal. But in Nigeria, relevant authorities remain clueless after an eight month long investigation.

The Australian Federal Police (AFP), last week, uncovered a diary that records that “top government officials and top CBN officials” were paid money in bribes by Securency International Pty Limited through their agents, in order to secure the polymer bank note contract.

In 2007, Securency, an Australian banknote company, part owned by the Reserve Bank of Australia(RBA), secured a contract to supply polymer materials on which Nigeria currently prints four of its banknotes; a contract which has led to the supply of at least 1.9 billion pieces of the polymer substrate. In October 2009, NEXT exclusively reported in Nigeria that the plum contract was only got after bribes were paid to senior government officials as well as relevant CBN officials. The negotiations for the contract may have begun as far back as 2004, when the CBN began a series of currency reforms.

Read the rest here: http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/National/5574290-146/australian_police_uncover_nigerian_polymer_scandal.csp

It is time for Soludo and other criminals connected with this crime, to be brought to book.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=448462.msg6082138#msg6082138 date=1274642952]Let the banks be free to do what bankers do,and everyone will be better off for it
if not there can be no growth or jobs. . .[/b][/color][/quote]The above would be the case if Nigeria were as economically sophisticated as some developed countries. The banks were given a free hand to do what bankers do, as it were, and we all see the results of that - the bankers simply ruined their own industry.

The mess created by the bankers is now being cleaned up by the CBN with restructuring and other methods. Many of these CBN activities are necessary first steps before we can get to your utopia.

Interesting times ahead.

Excerp

Even though President Goodluck Jonathan is yet to indicate interest in the 2011 presidential race, the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) is apparently toying with the idea of jettisoning its rotational principle to enable him contest if he so desires.
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The national auditor of the party, Dr. Sam Ortom, who himself is a Northerner, confirmed to Saturday Tribune that the party was not desperate to apply the provision contained in Article 7.2 (c) of the PDP Constitution as he observed that it had never stopped interested candidates from contesting presidential primaries in the party since its inception.

Contrary to the position of former national chairman of PDP, Prince Vincent Ogbulafor, who declared recently that power would remain in the North in 2011, Dr. Ortom remarked that the present NWC did not discuss the issue before Ogbulafaor made the statement.

According to him, Ogbulafor only aired his personal opinion on the issue and not that of the party when he fielded questions from newsmen.

He said: “Though there is position of zoning in PDP’s constitution, it is not a rigid arrangement. It is a flexible arrangement made by the forefathers of this party who wrote this constitution. But I want to let the public know that since 1999 when this party came into existence and started election and appointment of political offices, there has never been a time that anyone who is interested in vying for any position in this party has been excluded.

“From 1999, you will recall that the election was keenly contested by Dr. Alex Ekwueme and Chief Olusegun  Obasanjo, who came from different zones and in 2003, the election was keenly contested by the incumbent president, Chief Obasanjo and Chief Barnabas Gemade who was from the North Central and at no time did the PDP screen them out.

“They were allowed to participate, they went through the process as enshrined in the constitution and the guidelines and a candidate emerged at the end of the day and we jointly worked together for the success of our party.”

The national auditor also referred to the participation of late Alhaji Abubakar Rimi alongside then incumbent President Obasanjo in the 2007 PDP primary, even though the position was supposedly zoned to the South.

Read the rest of the story here: http://www.tribune.com.ng/sat/index.php/front-page-articles/1137-pdp-plots-jonathan-presidency.html

If President Goodluck Jonathan names Akunyili as Chairman of INEC as reported below, then he'll leave himself open to obvious criticisms if he runs for the presidency in 2011.  For some reason, I don't believe Daily Trust's "impeccable" sources.

Information and Communications Minister Professor Dora Nkem Akunyili’s name will shortly be forwarded by President Goodluck Jonathan to the Senate for confirmation as Chairman of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC), Daily Trust learnt from impeccable sources in Abuja yesterday.
The INEC chairman’s position became vacant two weeks ago, when Professor Maurice Iwu was ordered by the Presidency to proceed on terminal leave preparatory to the expiration of his 5-year tenure next month.

Sources told Daily Trust that President Jonathan worked on a long list of names from all over the country, and was under much pressure from the international community and from local civil society groups to appoint a very credible person as INEC chairman in order to lay the grounds for fulfilling his promise to ensure free and fair elections in the country next year.

However, Daily Trust learnt, a powerful delegation from the South Eastern states met with the president last week and complained that the East has lost and is still losing some key positions in the Federal Government in recent years. They particularly referred to the post of Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria [CBN], and said when Professor Chukwuma Soludo’s tenure was not renewed, the late President Umaru Yar’adua replaced him with a Northerner. They said the same thing must not happen again with the INEC chairmanship.

Read the rest of the story here ===>  http://www.news.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19126:akunyili-to-be-named-inec-chairman&catid=46:lead-stories&Itemid=140

@Onlytruth,

(1)Kindly itemize what MASSOB represents
(2)Are you a member of this organization
(3)Have you donated money to their cause(s) or do you even know how/where to donate money to the organization or
(4)Are you simply an internet warrior who will only kill the fly which is trying to enter his cup of coffee, while you are firing missiles and bombs through your computer keyboard?
(5)What are the specific crimes that their leader has been accused of and why is he in jail?

Dalu o.

This deal doesn't quite make sense to me. Why can't the government enter into a maintenance contract with China to get exisiting refineries working at full capacity before signing this $23b contract? A government that has a very limited time perform should make resurrecting existing refineries a priority.

This is a very bad idea. Governments are not known to run businesses efficiently. Power distribution should be handled by profit motivated corporations who will safeguard the assets and run the system efficiently.

What GJ needs to do is to sell the distribution assets to corporations (preferably joint ventures - proven US/UK/China distribution companies with Nigerian partners) and let them run the distribution system.

Governments, whether state of federal are incapable of running the distribution system efficiently.

Katsumoto:
But the question for you Dede1 is, 'what if you are in the minority?' What if a majority of Igbo people do not want a separate nation? Are you going to force your personal opinion and wishes on a majority?

Your question highlights the fallacy in the notion that Ndigbo are agitating for an independent sovereign state.  The said agitation (wishful thinking) exists only in the minds of economic and political refugees of the Igbo extraction, old coots and Igbos of the older generation. A vast majoirity of Igbos live outside of Igboland, and have assimilated nicely, and contributing economically and otherwise to their adopted states in Nigeria. Many have inter-married and have no interest whatsoever in a separate nation.

The sooner they realize that they are not going to have a separate nation, the sooner they will start working for their interests in one Nigeria in manners that will benefit their lot. The typical cry of marginalization by many a Igbo has become pitiful and counterproductive.

What a delight it would be, if Goodluck Jonathan threatened to leave the PDP if he were not allowed to be the party's flagbearer!

PDP is the root of all Nigeria's evil. GJ needs to perform beyond expectations in the next few months, and bring progressives in his administration such as Ribadu, El-Rufai, and other progressive southerners. The old fools such as Atiku and co need to retire and give younger generation and Nigeria a chance to excel.

If Jonathan performs, ALL Nigerians will support him in 2011, if he uses the Presidential bully pulpit to talk to the nation and explain why the PDP rotational agreement is unconstitutional and not in the best interest of Nigeria.  A Jonathan/Ribadu or Jonathan/El-Rufai ticket would be a winner.

If Jonathan can muster the courage to nominate Ribadu for VP, then I will personally kill some cows in celebration.

@Katsumoto: You asked

Are you stating that there are no credible leaders from the North? Are you insinuating that the murderer, drug dealer, thief IBB is the best the North can produce?

My answer to you is absolutely not. I'd prefer a contest without IBB. We should note however that a majority of the electorate will vote for IBB and do support him. The sad truth is that IBB will win in a free and fair election in Nigeria.

I hope other candidates come forth with their ideas soon, if not, IBB will run away with the presidency come 2011.

IBB/Dim Ojukwu on a ticket would be interesting.

The only problem may be the fact that some ambitious people of the ndiigbo extraction might find a way to eliminate IBB, rendering Dim Ojukwu the president, if indeed the said ticket wins.

Beaf:
^

The only true militants are MEND.

Ibori's goons aren't militants! Don't dignify those baboons and their master with a decent name. They are criminals and robbers that Ibori has armed up with sophisticated weapons (birds of a feather flock together). Uncle Joe should feel free to send NNS Aradu and NNS Olokun to fry the arses of those modafokaz if need be. We don't need Ibori and his kind hanging out in the ND.

If we had true federalism, there would be no Ibori. Abuja politics is what makes the Ibori's of Nigeria possible.

Run along now and fetch us Tinubu.

Beaf, you can't eat your cake and have it at the same time, buddy! These are the same MEND operatives that have now been hired by Ibori. Your organization is made up of thugs and criminals. You people need to learn how to take your struggle to the political arena. Your days of thuggish criminal acts are over.

kosovo:
OMG . . .
This has put me in a state of lugubriousness and incabigious regetelete. . .
may the souls of the departed rest in pax pacis . . .

incabigious regetelete

@Topic, Interesting.

Jonathan will probably not object to running as VP under IBB. If their ticket wins, it could ensure GJ the presidency in 2015.

IBB is monopolizing media coverage and getting a real head start. Where are the other candidates? They need to start presenting us with their visions for Nigeria - IBB is running away with this thing.

May their souls rest in peace. I'm convinced that many Nigerian wakos would wish the same fate on Nigeria, but God forbid bad thing.

[size=16pt]Polish leader, 95 others dead in Russia jet crash[/size]

Polish President Lech Kaczynski and some of the country's highest military and civilian leaders died on Saturday when the presidential plane crashed as it came in for a landing in thick fog in western Russia, killing 96, officials said.

Russian and Polish officials said there were no survivors on the 26-year-old Tupolev, which was taking the president, his wife and staff to events marking the 70th anniversary of the massacre of thousands of Polish officers by Soviet secret police.

The crash devastated the upper echelons of Poland's political and military establishments. On board were the army chief of staff, national bank president, deputy foreign minister, army chaplain, head of the National Security Office, deputy parliament speaker, civil rights commissioner and at least two presidential aides and three lawmakers, the Polish foreign ministry said.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20100410/EU.Russia.Plane.Crash/

Arkison;