₦airaland Forum

Faeb:
People please, Faeb = Beaf. I was hit by the spambot.

Even inanimate objects understand that your posts are nothing but a bunch of c.rap. pele o, Rakumi

SapeleGuy:
ndu_chucks look -By the way there are two more 'criminals' pointing out environmental damage in Niger Delta. Go and call JTF to bomb their communities.

99.999% of Nigerians are actually in support of cause of the ND people. Addressing the environmental damage of the area is only fair and supported by most Nigerians.

The mistake that you people continue to make is to lump the causes of criminals like MEND and the Togos of Nigeria with those of the ND people. These criminals should be expunged from the area by force. If any “war crimes” can be proved on the part of any JTF member, the perpetrators should be court marshaled. It is not enough to recite negative propaganda about the JTF and the fine Nigerian army, and claim that r.apes, or any other crime took place without proof .

SapeleGuy:
Don't trivialise this issue - look at it another way. There was a bomb in Abuja on October 1st, the bombers are in Abuja why did the army not bomb parts of Abuja. Alternatively, why did they not bomb Bauchi or Borno in their search for boko haram?

The army have disgraced themselves and the nation with an absence of professionalism.

Are the Abuja bombers not the same so-called freedom fighters of ND? Are the Okah brothers from Bauchi or Borno? These thugs have their roots in the ND region and the roots must be uprooted from the same region. The Army is doing a fine job given the circumstances - don't buy the propaganda by your "freedom fighting" thugs and criminals. May the souls of the dead rest in peace.

Beaf:
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Charlie, are you not one of them?
Tell NLers your "elected" position na!

Who are you calling Charlie? olodo. Rakimin Dajij

houvest:
Reading through Physics posts really get me confused. e.t.c    e.t.c. bla bla blad. So PHYSICS, What do you suggest for Ndigbo to have done about the 6gzone structure  and now about GEJ that will satisfy you and all Nigerians. Do they just do nothing? Or move to another Country to express their restless spirit?

houvest,  I am very tempted to name your epistle as “The Lamentations of an Igbo Native”. The answer to your question lies in this Igbo idiom: Ana eji anya eke azu di n'ime ofe (the eyes are used to divide the meat in the soup, when eating communually). I’m sure you get the point.   Gaskiya tafi kwabo

What's all the hoopla about bribe because $50,000 was given to SNG as a token of appreciation? Why do you people think that Nigeria is rated as one of the most corrupt nations in the world? Do yo people think that you earned that reputation by sending billions of naira to poorer countries to provide free housing and education to the poor?

Wonders shall never end! GEJ is no visionary as many of you expect, he is parts and parcel of a government wherein corruption is the order of the day. It is time to rid the country of these incompetent and visionless leaders.

Beaf:
We must do away with the land use decree, the petroleum act and institute true federalism.

Has any of your representatives in the NASS introduced any bill to this end? Has your uncle GEJ pushed for legislation to this end? Your real representatives who are thugs and thieves like MEND and the Togos of this world are not doing you people any good.

Your freedom fighters seem to be fighting for their own pockets and the destruction of your people. What a pity!

SapeleGuy:
Why is GEJ bombing innocent Izon people in Delta State?
Why is EK Clark quiet

It is unfortunate that innocent people who may be harbouring criminal terrorists become fair game in war operations. You people need to show overwhelming opposition towards the criminal terrorists parading themselves as freedom fighters. Help the federal government to get rid of them.

Its time to take the cause of the ND people to the political arena where it belongs, afterall GEJ is from the area. These MEND thugs and other criminals are quite s.tupid.  This is the time to work with GEJ for the betterment of the whole region.

Beaf:
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I believe we must press for heads to roll, regardless of whose ox is gored. Human life isn't toilet roll.
John Togo is a known armed robber, but that does not mean that innocent lives be wasted in his pursuit.

On the resolution of the Niger Delta crisis, I am 100% in agreement with you. The so called amnesty paid off both genuine militants and opportunistic criminals, in any event, it was a short term and shortsighted strategy; concrete steps now need to be taken.

Lets hope you understand that the buck stops with GEJ. If heads must roll, lets hope you can honestly and for once, declare that your uncle GEJ is mishandling the situation.  

Also note that the long term solution you alluded to, cannot be implemented if the region remains infested with criminals including MEND, who continue to terrorize all and sundry. The millitary needs several major operations to rid the area of these criminals before any lasting political solution can be implemented. Blame your fellow millitant thugs for unfortunate collateral damages.

Beaf:
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I had been wondering when you would remove your thousand useless masks and post as yourself. Lolz.

Oh dear, the ailment is worse than I thought. Please do not give others unnecessary credit because there is only one Ndu_Chucks here. olodo rabata oju eja loma je. Ewu can beer.

[size=20pt]I miss the good ol' Beaf. The Olodo used to be objective and fun to debate. He has since turned into a Rakumin dajij. We shall continue our fun activities after the elections, unless you change ya ways. [/size]

Katsumoto:
Why do you persist in turning every thread you post in, into a Nigerian Civil War discourse? We get it, the whole world fought against Biafra.

I'm not sure that Dede1 made a serious effort to turn this thread into a Civil War discourse. He expressed an opinion and was subsequently attacked by being called a revisionist Biafran historian - This is what actually introduced the civil war into the thread.

You are typically not mischievious so I'll assume your comment was a way to start a conversation with Dede1. The resulting dialogue promises to be juicy. I dey kampe dey watch.

Jonathan's action in this case was probably based on findings of a report by Gael Raballand and Edmond Mjekiqi of the World Bank’s transport unit. The report revealed that Nigeria's trade policy has had very negative impact on the economy and also impacted negatively on the efficiency of the Nigeria's customs.

Many posters' comments have largely been based on emotions and uninformed assumptions. I'd strongly recommend that everyone should read the world bank report in question. The report is actually a 304 page book. The pertinent portion will be found in Chapter 6 titled Nigeria’s Trade Policy Facilitates Unofficial Trade
but Not Manufacturing

Here is a Link to the report.

As usual, instead of implementing a complehensive solution to the problem, they (GEJ and his advisers)decided to provide piecemeal solutions. The solution to these policy problems have been spelt out in the world bank report. Why can't GEJ and his advisers take a wholistic approach to solving the problem? The answer may lie in GEJ's incompetence.

dcopolopo:
The main purpose of this investigation is to pull Soludo down , because of his polical alignment with Atiku, This is selective justice. This was exactly what OBJ did when he was in power.
The Government knew about his misdeeds before, but kept quite when he was not with the opposition. But I beleive Soludo has case to answer.
The fight agaist corruption should be done by the government in such a way that is not partial inorder to be effective.
The government should be serious about the anti corruption so that other people that are corrupt should also be investigated.
Could Federal government influence the Brithish and other countries to investigate Soludo? My answer is YES.

dcopolopo, what does it matter whether the said justice is selective? If Soludo committed any crime, he should be prosecuted and if found guilty, sent to jail. The only problem I have with the British in this case, is the timing of their making the investigation of Soludo public.

No sane human being should be in opposition of Soludo's investigation.

Katsumoto:
Are you suggesting that GEJ will be worse than Shagari, IBB, Abacha, Muhammed? You have got to be kidding.

Haba! I thought at some point or the other, we agreed that the regimes of Shagari, IBB, and Abacha, were nothing to write home about, at the very least. My expectations for our next President is quite high. GEJ in my opinion would make a mediocre President - the guy is clueless.

bidemi12:
my guy, since your govt is impotent in the area of justice, then you need outsiders to help you fill that gap. if you decide not to acquire home training then you will be taught outside.

Carry ya wahala go abeg. I feel sorry for the likes of you.

bidemi12:
for your information, when you intend to run for office and you make that intention know that is when you are probed and your personal life ripped appart to find any skeletons. the intent is to find out if you are fit for office. As a Nigerian you wouldn't know anything about that would you?

Is Soludo running for office in the UK? Your point is senseless, actually.  If you read my posts with an open mind, you would have noted that my complaints was about the British meddling in our internal affairs.   By the way, the snide remark you made about Nigerians in your post did nothing to flatter you, Mr or Mrs Bidemi. Mgbo piafuka gi isi! olodo.

P.S. Mallam, ko Yarinya Bidemi, when Sarah Palin declares that she will be a contender for the office of the President in the USA, you and your people in Nigeria, or wherever you are, should open up an investigation. olodo

Onlytruth:
This election is Jonathan's to lose. I will be SHOCKED if he loses the PDP primaries or the elections proper.

That guy is sitting on RAW POWER designed by the north for the north and their political allies. I want him to dismantle that northern construct and build a Nigerian one.

He may not be garrulous and articulate, but never underestimate reticent folks.

I agree with most of your post. GEJ just does not seem bright enough to effectively do the dismantling you alluded to. The man seems clueless. Just watch some of his interviews and you'll quickly note that he is not destined to be a great President. The best he could have done for the country was to step aside and ensure that the elections are transparent and that every vote would count. His place in history would have been secure and he would have become one of the greatest Nigerians.

I smell a rat! Only a few days ago, Tony Blair and other British agents publicly declared their support for GEJ. Soludo, who could be a game changer, were Atiku to announce that he'd be his running mate, is suddenly being looked at, by British investigators.

The British need to stop meddling in our political affairs. There is nothing wrong with carrying out their investigations quietly and letting the chips fall where they may. Going public at this point in time is an affront to our political process and they should be warned to bu.tt out.

The responses on this thread show very clearly that GEJ's candidacy as the PDP flagbearer will not be the cake walk he has always assumed it would be. A rude awakening may await GEJ if he continues to underestimate Atiku, or the likes of Ciroma and IBB.  

Northern politicians have historically out maneuvered, out foxed, out strategized, out witted, the Southern politicians since before independence. To think that the inexperienced, naive, and basically stupid GEJ will demistify the Northern ruling class would be foolhardy.

I suspect that IBB's people do not expect Atiku to defeat GEJ in the PDP primaries. Frankly if GEJ were to defeat IBB in the said primaries, IBB's political future would have been dealt a death blow. With the new development, IBB can still be drafted by a party other than PDP to challenge GEJ, if Atiku does not win the primaries.

The game may not yet be over for IBB.

silami:
Why are we lazy not knowing anything just start acting on emotions. This still an allegation, the same Atiku has been in the USA for months after leaving the office why wouldn't they arrest him? he was back in Nigeria no agency has instituted any case against or get him convicted? and here you are ranting and pouring all your ignorance out just to disgrace urself. All the PDP aspirants are potential criminals if you want make the allegation including GEJ. Go and open shop its morning already. yeye

silami, I'm afraid you are the one powering your mouth with silly emotional outbursts. It is senseless to have a president with allegations that could lead to prosecution as a president. If you don't understand that, then I can't help you.

I have not stated in my post that Atiku has been convicted of any crime, I said he is a potential criminal defendant. By the way, not all PDP aspirants  are linked to criminal activities with a looming indictment in the USA - The former US congressman involved in the corruption case with Atiku was sent to prison for 13 years! . Please educate yourself before spewing rubbish here. I hope you understand what potential means. olodo

It should be noted that Atiku is only a "Northern" consensus candidate as far as PDP alone is concerned. The Ciroma group neither represents the will of most Northerners, nor those of most Nigerians.  Any organization, interest group, or body that does not understand the gravity of having a President who is a potential criminal defendant in US courts, needs to have its head examined.

Nigeria already has a bad reputation - thanks to the 419ers, now you want to have a potential criminal defendant as the leader of Nigeria?? Okwute Palestinian pifuka gi isi, is my message to the Ciroma group!
The Ciroma group lives in a bubble and is completely disconnected from the real Northerners.

What a disgraceful choice! Frankly I hope Atiku defeats GEJ, who by the way will not make a better President than Atiku. GEJ is clueless.  Insh Allah, PDP will implode and its candidate will lose this election.

@Mariory, That was a typo. I meant to write mob.

@Naijaking, You must be a gentleman. You are even polite when attempting to insult people. You my friend are cool. olodo.

Beaf:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=post;topic=554699.0;num_replies=12#top

This article has got to be one of the most hate filled threats to violence ever on NL.
Mods, please move this to the racism and tribalism section, or better still, delete it entirely.

The fact that the posts contains uncomfortable facts does not make it tribalist. The post belongs in the politics section. The Araba pogroms were real and they indeed took place.

Please ignore Beaf, he probably believes in anarchy.

chyz:
Lool we in the SS and SE are voting GEJ and that's that.

Don't be surprised if a candidate like IBB or Buhari wins your very ward, with the help of Ojukwu.

Beaf:
Poor Fulani fcker, raking up ethnic bigotry and crass muck, because of loss of free oil!
I cannot recall ever seeing such primitive and depraved article anywhere on NL.

Mods, please move this to the racism and tribalism section.

Beaf, This new persona of yours is more careless, less cordial, and outright irresponsible. You assumed this character since GEJ became the President of Nigeria.  Reigning abuses and in many cases, causes on people who have views contrary to yours, has become the order of the day, as far as many of your posts are concerned.

You people need to find good advisers for GEJ so that he will not throw our dear country into chaos and/or avoidable war. His handling of the criminals of ND including MEND, is a prime example of his incompetence. olodo

Pharoh:
The pogroms was carried out by northerners on the Igbos and "if" i mean really if there were some mid-westerners or southerner's involved, It is a very negligible and insignificant amount. Your attempt to divide the south is very lame and childish, you should try harder next time and come with a better trick.

If you believe my initial post can divide an already divided south, then I have overestimated the soundness of your judgement.  There is division between ethnic groups, all over the south, from the south west to the south south, so your point is not sensible, with due respect.  Truth be told, it is the presence of Northerners in Nigeria that has prevented southerners from annihilating themselves because of senseless regional conflicts.

Pharoh:
There is no way a northerner will ever be a president in Nigeria for the next 20 years, the country will rather explode if it comes to that.

One cannot accuse you of being a nationalist. Rakumin Dajij

naijaking1:
Classic ndu_chucks .5% lies, .25% truth, .25 uncertain.
Just a little education for you:
If you randomly pick out 10 Igbos from a Street in Enugu, about 2-3 of them would pronounce toro as tolo, because of their Nnewi/Idemili dialectic vernacular pronounciation. You should know that, because you have an uncanny Igbo proverb to show us that you're Igbo too, mallam?

lol @ naijaking1. The account in my first post is factual. It is not enough to say that classic ndu_chucks posts are made up of some fuzzy statistics as you put it.  The fact remains that they used the tolo thingy to smokeout Igbos - by the way, there is nothing to celebrate about the whole affair.

naijaking1:
Don't even go there about Igbos being attacked by mostly fellow southerners, it's false an a weak attempt to re-write history. The plans to attack Igbos were hatched, executed by well meaning/highly placed Hausa/Fulanis like Ado Bayero,etc.
So, don't worry about trying to divide southerners in such a self-serving manner, it wouldn't work.

My post is about an incident of Araba which took place in Kaduna. The facts of that araba remain as I've stated them. You are free to describe other attacks if you wish - that's your cup of tea. Please open a new thread and give us details of those attacks. olodo

jason12345:
what are your sources or evidence?? how come it has never been mentioned in any history book or by the igbos themselves?? are you trying to scare people to stand by zoning?? what makes you think ALL igbos would support or be against GJ. people are dynamic, and you cannot assume all igbos are going to follow one man or organisation. are you scared of the northerners? what do you hope to achieve with this post?

You must have been reading "history" books written by revisionists rather than historians. Just wait for a few hours, our resident historian Dede1 will confirm that Arabas took place.  He may however not admit that more than 50% of the mob in kaduna were not northerners as that may not bode well for his preferred account.

I don't understand how you reached the conclusion that I think ALL igbos would support or be against GJ. olodo

Pharoh:
So you are coming now to say this because IBB is now the consensus candidate of the north? Goodluck is going to contest and win and nothing will happen.

Mallam Pharoh, how in the world did you reach your conclusion? What does IBB have to do with me or my post?  I would have liked to read your comments on the attrocities committed by southerners agianst ndigbo during the said Arabas.  An apology to Ndigbo on behalf of ya brothers would have been sufficient. olodo

naijaking1:
@poster
Your motivation for this piece is very suspect.
Let me guess:
A. You want to educate us here on N/L
B. You want re-write history
C. You want rubbish your ego, you victory, and your civil war conquests
D. You want to threaten GEJ, scare him aware from the presidential race, and maintain the status quo for the Hausa/Fulani guys.

naijaking1, stop being so paranoid - there is no hidden agenda here.

A.  Yes
B. No, I reported historical facts in my post.  What do you perceive as revisionism in the post?
C. Don't know what you are talking about here.
D. Very funny. GEJ is probably effeminate enough to be scare by a nairaland post by little me.


@~Bluetooth, The events took place after the Nzeogwu coup and before the civil war. I'm not surprised that many people are not aware of the various attrocities committed against Ndigbo by Southerners, old Mid Westerners, and some Yorubas who lived in Kaduna during the said period.

If you are familair with Kaduna,  if you make a turn into Katsina road towards Quarters, the area around the bridge down the road, was used as incineration arenas where victims were burnt to death! Very sad.