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PoliticsRe: Is The North Xenophobic? by NegroNtns(m): 8:30pm On Nov 30, 2008
huh huh huh
CultureRe: Osun State Bans Tribal Marks For Children by NegroNtns(m): 8:27pm On Nov 30, 2008
Dont worry my dear, Mugabe is coming to get RHC. Between King Wazabanga and Mugabe, one of them should find her delightful.
CultureRe: Osun State Bans Tribal Marks For Children by NegroNtns(m): 8:14pm On Nov 30, 2008
Erelu needs to get shagged rigorously by a MALLAM Al majiri
grin grin Erelu ko, Adele bo ni. grin


Rubbyyyyyyyyy!!! lol Where you been my sista? Long time no see, seem like 5yrs. Whats gwan on?

I still don't get it, what is the point of tribal marks in the first place?
Branding. There were many tribal feuds and kidnappings back in the days (as if none exist today). Casualties of war or slavery did not wear dogtags or name labels or identity cards. In the event of a meeting identification is easily traced to tribe, compound, family. In the event of death and damage to the body, the face tissue retains the scarring. The body can easily be identified and returned to its family for proper burial. It also stand to erase doubt about family inheritance and eligibility - legitimacy on the will/estate.
PoliticsRe: Should Nigeria Be Divided? by NegroNtns(m): 7:29pm On Nov 30, 2008
Instead of talking about what should have been but never was and how the landscape would have resulted differently had events not occurred in certain direction. . . we should instead be concerned about what "is" and how we can shape the terrain we have "now" for a desired outcome.

To all of you advocating war, Biafra is not your war, it was your father's and grandfather's war. At the end of it they all made corrections that were necessary for them to rehabilitate and move on. Chief Emeka Odumegu Ojukwu is prime example of that. You must not forget the history of it and the sacrifice that your parents and grandparents made. Nonetheless, you are not equipped today with the spirit and fortitude needed to fight a war on that scale. Your survival skills and intuition as well as wisdom demanded of a warrior is not inbred in you. You have a different class of skills than they had and none of your skills closely resemble that of a warrior, so you need to stop the rhetoric of war, war, war. If a war was started today you will loose again as happened in the 60s, so please stop the war cry.

On the question of wether Nigeria should be divided or not. . . well, on what grounds sould it be divided and on what grounds should it be retained? I agree that Nigeria should be divided but I disagree that the division must be done in broad scale violence. There are many ways through which the dissolution could occur with zero or minimal bloodshed. Going into war does not isolate us from the rest of the world. The Igbos have a different grievance than say the Deltans have. That difference alone becomes a vulnerable point that will be exploited to make a second Biafran far more disastrous that the first one. Igbos have always maintained and still do till today that their carve out of Nigeia give them a self-sustaining control over the oil resources that will end up in their new found country - Republic of Biafra.

There are various interest groups that will instantly be willing to strike partnership with the East. Big among them is Blackwater. Eric Prince started this company as a training facility and evolved into mercenary and again evolved into security/private intelligence entity, then into emergency rescue mission and is now lobbying UN to serve in peace missions while simultaneously lobbying congress to recognize it as an extension of the military and give it a classification under Pentagon. During the escalation with MEND, the Oil Corporations and the expatriate groups received a proposal from Blackwater outlining arrangements to take the fight to MEND in the swampgroves. As we speak, there is talk of deals to deploy Blackwater personnell on ships to fight pirates in the Horn of Africa. To show you what interest areas Blackwater is actively shadowing for gain opportunities, take a look at their website in the link below. Anwhere on the globe there is political tension they are on it.

http://www.blackwaterusa.com/btw2006/archive/060506btw.html

What does this mean for us? This means if we start a war, it will not be just our war, Blackwater will show up. They will show up in alliance with the party that has control over this oil we are fighting over. They will aid the Igbos to fight and defeat Nigeria. But it doesn't end there. They know about the region and before they pack up and leave they will aid the Deltans to defeat the Igbos. They will then go into treaty agreements with the Deltans in a way that the Deltans become the sole ethnic group with control over the oil and Blackwater as its security and intelligence army. I know some of you will start to ask for me for a statistical data to prove this as accurate. Anything that has not yet taken place does not have accurate statistical data. You can create a model of forecas for proactive policies but that's all it is - a possibility of occurrence. Well, take my opinion here as just that - given what has happened so far in Blackwater activities around the globe, this is a possibility of occurrence if they smell that we are about to spill each other blood.

War is not the answer forus to dissolve Nigeria. Let's discuss other opportunities that are equally as effective.
PoliticsRe: “I’ll Rather Die Here Than Go Back To Nigeria” Nigerian Man To Uk Immigration by NegroNtns(m): 6:23pm On Nov 30, 2008
You are an impressive . . . . .errr errr err SOPHIST in every positive sense of the word.

Jeez. . . .the whole argument now centres on a particular 'Nigerian man' or the general 'Nigerian Man'

hehehehe. . . I don't have a counter walahi


Ah, yepa, . . . mogbe! SOHPIST ke? Well, I will go with the positive. In case you are wondering, I am Yoruba to the core. My fluency, written and spoken, in Hausa does not make me an Hausaman, neither is the fact that physically, I look more a Hausa than a Yorubaman. I stand solidly for what is right and I quesion inequities. To the Yorubas, we are a Great people but we can not advance forward unless we are willing to critique our challenges and chart positive outlets that will enable our greatness to blossom.

Doyin, when you run for the Governor office appoint me to handle your political strategies. grin
PoliticsRe: “I’ll Rather Die Here Than Go Back To Nigeria” Nigerian Man To Uk Immigration by NegroNtns(m): 3:56pm On Nov 30, 2008
Wow . . .on the 8th page already!

@Post ,

Lol, some responses are funny but a lot more are thought provoking. One day. . . one day, we will move forward and until that time the discussion continues.


Doyin,

Negro, Your argument, nay, all the arguments on this thread are filled with
easily debunked generalisations.

Take for example, you argue Southerners with their academic excellence
have achieved it to the detriment of enriching their culture.

But surely the examples of Chinua Achebe and Wole Soyinka, the South or
indeed Nigeria's foremost academics, do not support your argument.

And you suggest examples of Professors in the North who go back to sit down
on the mat with their families in their villages perhaps. I cannot imagine the likes of Jubril Aminu
or Jerry Gana, elitist sycophants that they are stooping to such low levels.
My response is targeted at the theme. The caption did not say "Mr X" or "an individual", but instead said "Nigerian man". Now, that is generalisation and my response in the general is quite adequate. In like manner, my reference to DeepZone's thread and the resonse to her caption on "Northerners" is proper, given that Northerner is a generalisation of a people.

If we were to discuss individuals then I would have offered a response tailored to that end. Soyinka, Achebe, Aminu and Gana are all individuals that can be used as exemplary for a pro/con review of how successful orotherwise we have been in terms of the balance etween academic and cultural outlooks.

I will add a counterweight to my example of a professor in the North sitting on a mat and eating with his hands. Professor Akin Adesanya, who at many times had been Provost at many institutions and served at a parastatal post in the Ministry of Education was my mentor many years back. The Professor eats amala, eba, iyan, fufu and all that with his fingers and only food he eats with cutleries is rice, salad and so on. So at an individual level of course I can present examples in both North and South of people that are advocates of culture. However, in general terms and without a bias input, Southerners are behind in culture as much as Northerners are behind in academic progress.
Foreign AffairsBush Reflects On Legacy by NegroNtns(op): 3:04pm On Nov 30, 2008
Quoted from CNN,

Reflecting on his eight-year presidency, President Bush said above all he would like to be remembered as a commander-in-chief who remained faithful to his values and "did not sell his soul in order to accommodate the political process."
I agree. He remained steadfast to his convinctions and never wavered in his beliefs even when his policies are shitty.

What do you think of that side of Bush, admirable or not? Share your view.
PoliticsRe: “I’ll Rather Die Here Than Go Back To Nigeria” Nigerian Man To Uk Immigration by NegroNtns(m): 6:28pm On Nov 29, 2008
Some body is self deluded inside here - kumbaya,

only nigerians who have, northerners

spare me.

my sister a lecturer went to do her masters in manchester and is back to her lecturing so what crap is that chappy talking about? Probably the northerners who went abroad - learnt the act of looting, maiming and burning and came back home to practice it on their unsuspecting eastern brethren. Why can't they do the violence to their fellow northern brothers since they want to enrich their culture?

What are you going to do to change that?

Moremi, exactly! In the 70s when our parents went abroad to school, their parents were the ones wiring money abroad to them and shipping dried food to them. Back then and upto the 80s, it was Indians and Pakistanis that drive taxi cabs on the streets of Europe and America. How does that compare to today? Where did we go wrong? We were oversold into the idea that a degree confers a crown on your head that gives you access to everything in the world and we bought it. Even after the veil came off our eyes and we knew better that this was a lie, we continue to sell our children and brothers and sisters into the same line of deceit that became our demise.

Karma, they don't need to. The same view we have of them lagging behind academically, they have of us lagging behind culturally and they view us as a cultural liability just as we view them as academic liability. The point I am making is, beteen academic excellence and cultural excellence which should we promote for ethnic progress? We have seen what academic excellence has done to us and isn't it time we balance the two?
PoliticsRe: “I’ll Rather Die Here Than Go Back To Nigeria” Nigerian Man To Uk Immigration by NegroNtns(m): 5:23pm On Nov 29, 2008
@Post

There'smore to a people than just academic credentials.  DeepZone asked a question few months back in cultural section, she asked "why don't the Northerners stay abroad after their sudies"?  The reason is because they have a support base in their culture that puts priority in the human soul above academic elitism.  Southerners finish college and believe they belong in a class above that uncle in their family that still eats with his fingers; Oh, Uncle you are supposed to eat with cutleries and not your fingers and I meantto remind you please stop speaking Yoruba to my children, they speak English only.  We treat Uncle Kola as a failure.

This guy is bearing his soul out in a plea not to be sent back home.  Why?  Because he will be ridiculed when he goes back home, he becomes a failure.  Contrarily in Hausaland, the professor is still sitting on a mat on his porch for evening meal with friends, some of whom didn't graduate high school and they all eat together with their hands.  When he is with family, he puts his academic hat aside and snap on the cultural hat and enjoy family.  Its true they are behind us academically but how far ahead has our academic achievements saved the South or our kinfolks like this gu in the video?  If our achievements is not resulting in pragmatic accomplishments for our people, then we have collectively become a failure - the high school graduate, the bachelor degree holder, the post graduate and the doctorate, all of us ae failures.  The prme vidence is what you see in this guy in the video., not to mention many more tha are unseen or unheard of but are nonetheless languishing in abject loss of their soul.  In the true word of success, the only Nigerians that have succeeded are the Northerners, so far as they return home and enrich their culture with what they have learnt abroad.
CultureRe: Osun State Bans Tribal Marks For Children by NegroNtns(m): 2:22am On Nov 29, 2008
lmao @ olodo. Yes, Swaziland. Thank you jare. grin

I will send an emissary to King Wazabanga of Swazulu reminding him that his request for a maiden from Nigeria is still valued but with a little amendment that I am sure he will find delightful. The heads of cattle remains 100 for the girl's dowry to her parents. He will in addition be getting a fair and beautiful maiden, more beautiful than he could ever imagined. Her name is DeepZone. DeepZone is given to the King as a token. If he should find it overwhelming to handle the two girls, he is reminded to forward DZ to Robert Mugabe as a honorable gesture from the Nigerian people.
PoliticsRe: “I’ll Rather Die Here Than Go Back To Nigeria” Nigerian Man To Uk Immigration by NegroNtns(m): 2:12am On Nov 29, 2008
If selling the family house/land is true, he probably did with family concurrence throwing all that asset as an investment in his stay abroad.  It's a pity.  Where is DeepZone, she need to come and see her next of kin.
CultureRe: Osun State Bans Tribal Marks For Children by NegroNtns(m): 7:21pm On Nov 28, 2008
RedHot,

wassup with you and tribes? Tribal this. . . tribal that. . . I think next time the King of Zambia (where is that King that marries multiple young girls, is it Zambia?) asks for a Nigerian maiden we will make it conditional that he takes you along or no deal.
CultureRe: Osun State Bans Tribal Marks For Children by NegroNtns(m): 7:10pm On Nov 28, 2008
LOL, . . I be your ashewo na. I respect my God, no vanity here sweetie. Can you restrain that sharp tongue sometimes. . . I mean put a lock on the razors. You remind of the stories about razor laced whips - whoopsh! whooopsh!!

Anyway, how you dey? Negro misses you. wink
PoliticsRe: Volunteers Needed To Wake A Sleeping Giant (nigeria)- Pls Volunteer by NegroNtns(m): 6:40pm On Nov 28, 2008
Wumi,

My response to you was actually a sarcasm. I wasn't serious about the call for authentication,sorry you mistook it that way. Next time I will add some emoticons to soften it.

Trust me, if I thought you were serious in it I would have given many inputs. I knew what you intended with your post and lets just call it a game - a mind game for those that find pleasure in it. grin
CultureRe: Osun State Bans Tribal Marks For Children by NegroNtns(m): 6:35pm On Nov 28, 2008
You and your tongue. Oh God, I thought you were redeemed by now. What happened?
Foreign AffairsPresident-elect's Response To Mumbai by NegroNtns(op): 6:30pm On Nov 28, 2008
In the wake of the terrorist attack in Inda, I think the President-Elect should send Biden out this weekend to make the press circuit and put human face to his administration's response to the problem. The appearance will earn reassurance on what to expect of him on the fight on terror. Within few hours after his victory on Nov 4th, he took ownership of the economy as well as justice. Pending when he appoints a Sec. of State, Biden should be in public taking leadership on terrorism and reassuring the world. If you recall, his credential as a foreign relations expert is what earned him the position - time for rubber to meet road!
Foreign AffairsRe: Letter To President Elect Barack Obama by NegroNtns(m): 6:17pm On Nov 28, 2008
RHC,

That's nice!
PoliticsRe: Volunteers Needed To Wake A Sleeping Giant (nigeria)- Pls Volunteer by NegroNtns(m): 5:11pm On Nov 28, 2008
Wumi,

This is a very laudable project and I admire your initiative. Yes you are correct, we have many problems in Nigeria that we need to address and fix. One of them is authenticity and trustworthiness. Throwing Obama's name behind your cause will definitely liven people up and cause them to volunteer. However, if people signed up and your program turned out to be bogus, then you have not only added to the problem we have in Nigeria but you have equally dented Barack's name and damaged the spirit of those signing up to volunteer. As a precursor I believe you should present credible authorization that can be independently verified for who you say you are and who your sponsor is.

Do you agree?
CultureRe: Pictures, Slight And Sound Of Northern Nigeria. by NegroNtns(m): 4:56pm On Nov 28, 2008
Hauwa,

Yaya yar' uwa? Kwana biu! Yaya arkoki, Kina lafia?

Thanks for correction. I have always thought it came from yam, yes the spice is definitely distinct. I believe Sisi had question about that raffia sieve as well. What is it called?
CultureRe: Great Africans Queens --list Yours by NegroNtns(m): 4:36pm On Nov 28, 2008
Moremi Aja - Yoruba warrior
IslamRe: Muslims: What's Your Favorite Ayah Or Surah In The Quran? by NegroNtns(m): 3:32pm On Nov 28, 2008
My favorite chapter in the Quran - Al-Rahman.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Farewell Message To nairaland. by NegroNtns(m): 2:49pm On Nov 28, 2008
MC,

I am wishing you well in your service, May God be with you and protect you. Let us know when you get settled and safe.
CultureRe: Pictures, Slight And Sound Of Northern Nigeria. by NegroNtns(m): 2:37pm On Nov 28, 2008
@MC,

I heard through the grapevine that you were relocating nd won't be online for sometime. Well, goodluck brother and stay safe. Great job to you and Sisi for all these pix, beautiful.

@Sisi, PETE is short for pete-pete. Its loose derivative for yam porridge (asaro). It's not a traditional Northern dish, it belongs to Yoruba. What do Yorubas call mud? Pete-Pete! Porridge does look muddy and so that name was adopted but not with the visual.
CultureRe: Bayajida !? by NegroNtns(m): 4:35am On Nov 28, 2008
Bayajida the prince of Baghdad. The legend has it that there was a prince who emigrated from the land of Mesopotamia, back when Baghdad was the capital of that empire. He traveled South and West to reach the land of Kanem Bornu, an ally of the Ottoman empire in the time of Idris Aloma. Bayajida was married to a preincess of Bornu, Magira. He again traveled West to Hausaland and arrived in Daura, a city ruled by Queens. In Daura, there
was a well in which lived a ferrocious snake and this monster terrorized the people of the town. It was told that Bayajida killed the snake, upon which the Queen rewarded with half of her dominion. He settled in Daura and his sons untimately spread out to become rulers of the seven Hausa States.

But of course this is a legend. The Hausa bakwai or the seven legitimate Hausa States are ruled by Fulani dynasties descending from Usman Dan Fodio's Islamic conquest of the North. The seven are Biram, Daura, Gobir, Kano, Katsina, Rano, Zaria. Each is ruled by an Emir.

There is also Banza Bakwai or the seven illegitimate Hausa States. They are Gwari, Ilorin, Kebbi, Kororafa (Jukun), Nupe, Yauri, Zamfara.
Foreign AffairsRe: Is It New Or Is It Old, Which Way Obama? by NegroNtns(op): 3:21am On Nov 28, 2008
Ibime, have you been to liberal blog sites lately?
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Are We Blacks Enemies To Ourselves? by NegroNtns(m): 3:17am On Nov 28, 2008
I thought this should have been a been a great honour to us blacks and a time of thank[/b]sgiving to [b]God for answering our prayer.
What was the prayer??
PoliticsRe: Suggest brilliant ideas/program that will improve Nigeria economic situation by NegroNtns(m): 3:14am On Nov 28, 2008
We don't need brilliant ideas, we need honest voters, we need dedicated politicians, we need the Obama syndrome. http://www.BizInfo1.com/?ix=4455
Amata, very good point! Thanks for your insight!!

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