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@Post, You addressed many issues with your thread but I will respond to just two - transportation, cost. Transportation - Years ago we had Lagos Municipal Transportation System (LMTS). The service transformed and became Lagos State Transport Service (LSTS). Simultaneously in that period, there were school bus shuttles dedicated for transporting students back and forth between a school district and transit connection points to the city operated routes. A student buys monthly pass that is honored by the city bus. There were conductors on the city bus and they strapped on meters that issued receipts to riders. The driver and the conductor wore uniforms, neat and smart appearance, the buses were clean and ran on timely schedules. How did we go from that to today's environment where our children are riding in the back of okada and facing risks that children should not be exposed to? Monumental cost in terms of human life and manpower. You are right, I want to know the names of their think tank members as well. |
I will be responding in a much detailed manner but for now, in answering the three models let me summarize my thoughts into the following. The modeled views are comprehensive and what you have shared of it is failing to recognize the cyclic electromagnetic patterns that govern behavioral patterns in human and our response to the environment as a consequence of that balance or imbalance in behavioral traits. Example - Land is forever available to mankind to sustain and you could convert that land into a lake for water resources for domestic consumption, farming irrigation as well as leisure activities like fishing, boating, swimming and so on and so forth. Instead of a lake, you could make it a farming plantation and grow millet (which with its derivatives have many utility benefits to mankind) for domestic consumption and exporting. Instead of a lake or a farm, you could make it into a stadium or a race course for horse races and gambling. Explosion in population growth and density is inversely proportional to the availability of natural resources. This can be best observed in the increased number of global tensions and battles that at its core is nothing but territorial disputes over access to a resource. Academic credentials are richly rewarded far more than artesian skills. This has shifted specialties and left a gap in our skills over land cultivation and management but made us masters of data analysis and forecasts for speculative events that are not represented in mundane realities. So what's the outcome? Survival of the fittest! Included in that survival is the acquisition of nuclear energy for good and bad! Nuclear energy for domestic utility consumption and industrial growth for global dominance at the expense of peril and threat of destruction to other nations that compete with us for growth and domination. How does Nigeria going nuclear fit into all these? Pakistan and India are not a good model for this argument. Be back later. ![]() |
Interms of so many things, Region border which is not clear yet, the currency, government houses and buildings, policies, documents, names, what position will we hold if joining Benin ? [b]will be be given the chance to hold positions in Benin government, Those Igbos and Huasas that remain in Lagos and west, they will become second citizens and that means things can't be totally equal, what about the currency, Benin is a francofone country , which is theire official, many things that will be too complicated my brother. People make a Nation. Who wants to be in the proposed Yoruba state and who wants out? You carve the border around the "ins" and you exclude the "outs". We should revive old Yoruba states along their original borders (it can be done through negotiation). There were seven Yoruba states. Currency is important. I am not sure if you are talking about design or its fudiciary strength. Anything can be a medium of economic exchange as long as it is scarce and its source is tightly controlled against unauthorized duplication. The power behind currency is the authority of monetary discipline and accountability. If its regulated tightly then you have a strong unit of exchange. Buildings and houses? How about the ones there now? Are you relocating or something? ![]() What do you mean by "will we be given the chance"? Are you proposing statehood or slavehood? "Will we be given the chance" Whose validation are you begging for? Why are you going to Benin government? Why do you want to re-subdue a pre-colonial Great Nation under the autocratic rulership of a French colonial installation next door? Do you understand Government and the propaganda of politics? Now I see why you asked "How will it work"? |
Let us not run the world hastily;This is a verse in Eji Ogbe from Ifa divination Israel is slowly self destroying the gains it sufferred so hard to get. |
Charles, I am sure the Yorubas gave a reason for why they want to separate from Nigeria. What more do you need? Can you clarify what you mean by how it will work? How what will work? |
Outluk, Clarify your position on nuclear for Nigeria. Have you given thought to the ramifications of pursuing nuclear plant? I am willing to discuss the pros and cons with you, you can address it from scientific angle and I will counter it from political standpoint. I am not sure we have the guarantees, as a nation, to sustain the responsibilities that come with such a high goal. I agree with you that in terms of economy of scale it is the best option for the projected growth and the resulting peak in demand but that alone is not sufficient assurance to win over opponents. Oh beside, I am still waiting on suggestions for title change. Your earlier suggestion did not package the discussion. |
When people like you talk, you just wonder if they know what the issue is or just spewing out anything that their brain can come out with. So Africans that want reparation from the West are the winners in slave trade saga according to your brain full of wisdom? Or the [b]Jews demanding reparation were Victors against the Nazis?[/[/b]quote] |
Hhahaha wind don blow open the nyash of hen!! Fricking tribal bigots giving Igbos advice I knew you were not up to anything good earlier. Na today? Fuc-king igbo haters! You'll live to see it.Life is sacred, regardless of its tribal home. However, Yorubas have a more tenable way of dealing with issues of terror than say Igbo does. If an Igbo residential area is attacked and Yorubas are residing in there with them of course they will be attacked as well. Why does every Igbo resort to abusive and personal attacks at the jump of the rope? I sincerely believe that you still need rehabilitation from the pains of the war. I will be back with some words for you later. You want something that will bring tears to your eyes? Keep it up, you hear. . . keep up your nonsense. |
I don't think Nigeria gave Ijaw folks only 20 pounds after the warWhat's all the fracas about this 20 pounds? In any war the loosing side owes the victor reparations to cover the cost of fighting the war. Instead of giving you 20 pounds, Nigeria should have taxed you until the cost is recovered maybe then you will be happy instead of lamenting and gnashing teeth over 20pounds handouts. You all want me to open another flood gate on the protocols of war so you can see where you erred? Shut up already about this 20 pound and let it rest. |
Ile Oba to jo, ewa lo bu kun. In order for something new and fresh to blossom, the old and stagnant must be destroyed. What we need is monitoring and enforcement, otherwise the replacement will be similarly operated with abandon and recklessness. |
When you look at Nigerian energy problem, the 2500MW is not sufficient, it just what we can manage to produce. We need electricity for industrial use, and that means producing electricity in large combustion or nuclear plant. Presently in the world, there is no developed nation, or developing nation that does not have nuclear plant or striving to have nuclear power plants. If Nigeria is to be ranked, among the top 20 economies, we must produce electricity to meets domestic and industrial need. For instance, UK with 60 million people consumes 80 GWe (80,000 MWe). If the living standard of an average Nigerian to be at least half of that of a British, we must be able to produce at least 40 times of what we are producing now.What are the economies of scale? Example - cost/benefit per 1000 top-tier manufacturing plant; cost/benefit per 1,000,000 cubic feet of industrial carbon/toxic waste; cost/benefit per #1,000,000 market earnings; cost/benefit per 1,000,000 population density and so on and so forth. While some of the plans are highly ideal and reasonable for a developed nation that has already realized its indutrial objective, Nigeria is yet to recognize and respond responsibly to the significance of government policies adversely impacting citizens lifestyles and domestic standard of living, much more safeguard environmental safety against a nuclear leakage. Nuclear is not an option for us, however much it is marketed as safe; our government is not matured for its safe operations. |
My friend sharrap dia . . . . na only you get mouth?. . . . only one ship?. . . . please go and ask the British how many ships they lost in Niger Delta.Ibime, you sef know say British man no go admit am lai lai say hin navy lost to delta people. I have often wondered why US NAVY never come to Delta to scout for potential SEALS. Anybody know say una be mammywater ![]() |
Romeo, We are best known for culture and civilization. Yoruba civilization is parallel with many other great civilizations around the globe. Ifa has been recognized by UN and its even practiced by Europeans as well as South Americans and North Americans. China said it is the equivalent of their I-Ching culture. Yorubas have indigenous philosophical and cosmological identity relative to the universe. This identity is separate from the white man's western philosophy and culture, but rather an independent way of thinking and of lifestyle that evolved within the Nation. Yoruba was a pre-eminent nation on the West African coast at the time when Europeans arrived. We had fought battles and taken over land and people. In Lagos for instance, history teaches you that white man arrived and just took over the land. They never tell you that they had to fight for it with blood and property. In the battle they lost one naval vessel and another one was sunk and they incurred fatalities with many British sailors dead and or injured. If you go to the Oba's palace in Lagos there is a canon gun mounted in the courtyard. This was the gun that belonged to the destroyed vessel and the Oba ordered it removed and taken to his palace as souvenir. We don't need to market our culture, people that encountered us in peace or in battle know who we are and they took our story back home to their people and mentioned our Greatness. Yet, you don't hear Yorubas all over the place acting belligerent and overbearing. We are humble. But you take our humbleness for cowardice. Don't for one minute think we fear you. Its our philosophy to be humble. Go and read Ifa divination for Eji Ogbe and you will understand why we are "Kool like Dat". ![]() I will mind Yoruba business and leave Igbo alone. |
Interestingly, you only have to refuel once in about seven yearsWhat fuel does this plant use? The objective here is to get away from the use of a carbon/fossil fuel like example petrol and its various derivative oils. |
We are not marketing ourselves. We are known for war and you're known for Juju all over the globe (santerismo cubana)Prior to 1966, which war did Igbo ever fight and how many of them did you win? Go ahead and list. Yoruba is proud of its indigenous culture and religion. It bothers us that we are practicing the faith of foreigners - Islam and Xtianity, we'd rather just stick with the ways of our forefathers and in the end that may just be what will happen as we evolve into the future. You can make juju out of any religion - Judaism, Xtianity, Islam, . . .etc. |
I have even done the estimation of the electricty that can be obtained from them. I don't have the papers with me, but I will get them and share them with you if you are interested.Of course I'd love to read it. Please use my email neegronations@gmail.com I agree with writing a proposal and finding sponsorship within the administration in Abuja to push for a resolution on the legislative floor. The government should have responsibility for drafting the policy. Of course they will need subject matter experts like you for that position and that offers opportunity for you to participate. Alternative will be to send it to a national newspaper for frontpage coverage. That will start a discussion. We are seeking partnership, we are asking for favors, we need their ears. . .submitting a policy paper to them could be viewed as stepping boundaries and get the door shut in our face. ![]() Well, to me I feel by leaving the title as Renewable Energy, it will narrow the scope of the discussion. I will prefer it to be an open discussion about all the energy resources (Coal, Nuclear, Oil &Gas) and harnessing them.Let's change it, give me three top suggestions and let me pick one. ![]() You have my support and when do we start. Naijex, It started! Here is what will happen for now. Outluk will send me her written work, she and I will review and take talking points out of it that can be used to draft a proposal. The talking point will be posted here for general participation and contributions. Once the draft is finalized the finished copy is saved. But we have a challenge. How do we get sponsorship in congress? How de wo get sponsorship in the dailies? We need to discuss the options. |
Before I make any comment I would like yout to change the topic to something that accommodates every aspect of energy. Something like Energy Challenge in Nigeria. Outluk, Impressive response! I will start from bottom and work my way up - some of the highlited points are supportive and form one line of thought. You are a new breed of Nigerian and yes you can solve the problem but you will succeed in a partnership than going alone at it. Teamwork will get us there and that's explained better in my response above to Blacksta. Say in Jigawa or Yobe, in addition to the estimated 200-300 MW coming from agro waste, other inputs like wind and solar could raise the capacity to double or triple output units totalling between 600 - 900 MW. Would such output be sufficient to sustain peak electricity consumption at the local state level? There are many benefits to this idea. Considering that we have many border states, there could be economic gains from exporting electricity to another country and thus generate a national revenue pool. This gives equity interest to Jigawa or Yobe to expand the incentive by pushing research and development into other aspects of resourcefullness not before considered but which nonetheless raises its stakes for technological advancement and self sufficiency away from oil profits. This is the drive behind why I opened the thread. The message is to collectively work together in finding alternative means for the states to become self sufficient and less reliant on oil profits for their budget and the well being of their people. In few years electric cars will gain wide popularity. We should be prepared for that expansion in electricity consumption. Small countries are expanding their industrial growth and will continue to need oil. OPEC will still dominate oil pricing and when price go up, ethanol from corn and other agricultural grains can compete and generate revenue for farmers. The post is ideological but I recognise the weight that your response bears on the vision. Do you still think the title should be changed? Whatever it is must encompass the vision so that its not just on energy, its not just on economy and its not just on politics. Its a package! |
@Post, The experience of the Falashas and Ethiopia generally in a two decade period from 70s to 90s is a prime evidence of what it could have been like. Today, the Falashas that were covertly emigrated to Israel in the 70s and 80s continue to experience, with their children and grand children, acts of racism and isolation from mainstream Israel. Why didn't Europe find a settlement for them in its own territory, or re-settle them in America? Afterall they were victimized by the Europeans under silence observation of the Roman Catholic church. |
Story story - The question for you my friend - what are you going to do about it?Blacksta, This is a good question and a challenging one. It is a fact that the members in NL are a new breed of Nigerians. We exist on the web, we are far from one another but yet within close touch of one another, we are smart, we are visionary, we are practical, we are tactful and diplomatic and desire changes that will make our country compete gainfully in the spirit of global advancement. Now, let us imagine that we form a virtual central government here in NL. The central government has layers of committees broken into the various departmental versions that exist on the ground in Abuja - such as Finance, Culture and Information, Communication, Trade and Commerce, Energy, . . . e.t.c. That further, this central government empowers itself to pass resolutions on issues passed upward from its sub-layered committees. The resolution is then packaged and forwarded to the Nigerian Legislature in Abuja as nothing more than the popular views of a new breed of Nigerians seeking partnership for change on the proposed item/s. Further along on this imaginary path, the proposals are discussed on the floor of the House and the Senate and voted on and then enacted into law or adopted into rules. With time, the virtual government will become the king maker and enforce influential powers sufficiently far-reaching that candidates for political posts will seek its approval and endorsement. In reality what I described above is not an imagination, it is how lobbyists operate. We can form a lobbying power to influence the changes we desire. I am not a superman, neither am I an hero figure out to save humanity from an impending calamity but I am a far thinking individual focused in expressing the ideas that sprout up in my head, per chance another individual might see sense in it and knows how to actuate it to the next step of involvement where someone else could pick up on it and advance it further to the next level. In its progression stages it evolves into something better than was envisioned by the last task owner and so that when it finally completes and emerge as a product, it could be 50yrs later, but at last, Nigeria has produced an item that we all collectively own and proud of. That's what makes a Nation. This is the fundamental flow for the employment of manpower, sometimes called "division of labor" - the ideation of a thought - invention or creativity strategizing the idea - leadership and form selling the strategy as a viable task - design of experiments, limits, substance and marketing mapping the task - flow chart, process map, rules and standards, protocols and conventions implementing the process - production line, standard operating procedures, contingencies, systems, service measuring the outcome - key indicators, productivity/efficiency/attainment, analysis, reports, forecasts sustaining improvements - control points, quality index, evaluation, expectations, feedback. Nigeria can make a positive impact and establish lead in the discussion on renewable energy for the reasons I already stated in opening post - we have abundant resources located in different parts of the country, though dormant but can be activated to generate interest in capital investment and job creation at the local level. In the division of labor outline, this will be at the "form" stage. Now I should redirect your question and ask if there is anyone out there willing to lobby Abuja (selling the strategy) and open their eyes to these issues that they may not otherwise be mindful of or care to undertake. I must remind you that we all need to join hands, assuming we see the need to, and not leave it to one person to do. |
I find it very annoying though, they keep harping on about. . .each ethnic group has its own plate of issues to sponsor at the Federal level, and it's a fantasy to try and scare them that their plates act as counterweights that retards Igbo progress and unless recognition is given you are out of Nigeria. Beside war, how else can you promote your interests to the Nation, like the Yoruba and the Hausa is doing? Doyin, God Bless you! |
Luca, You would think that amongst educated peers few sentences are enough to lead thoughts along the general theme of a topic and without giving a break down and dissection of every thought that your intended conclusion is shared by the rest of the forum but unfortunately it's not the case in NL. A handful of members have the brilliance of mind and the intellect to connect the dots and fill in the blanks. The majority is a sorry and embarassing pack and you must interprete ideas for them to grasp. Quite a waste of time and engagement! ![]() |
Why does it take the presence of US, NATO, Greek, China and a host of other countries in the Gulf of Aden to combat piracy? Any connection of their presence to something much more interesting in that zone? Any imbalance elsewhere around the globe that need to be countered by establishing presence in the Horn of Africa? Sovereign interest, security access,. . . etc?? Instead of exercising vision against unecessary invasion of Africa by non-entities of foreign capital interests, you all are scuffling and entertaining yourselves about Chinese martial arts. |
It's all politics! In order for Israel to remain a legitimate entity in the mideast it needs an arch enemy. That enemy is Palestinian. Without Palestinian Front, Israel's ideological push for statehood will become meaningless and the country itself will become a pawn for European nations to bounce around. I don't want to go into elaborate analysis for why the Israel/Arab war is a scam and fraud on the rest of the globe but I will like to point to one flaw : Israel has pounded Gaza now for over a week in a decisive operation in which it claimed to have used precision bombing to locate and destroy Hamas establishments. It also claims that Hamas continue to send rockets into Israel from their border town with Israel. Well, rockets are heat radiating missiles and Israel have heat detecting radars that it can employ, daytime or nightime, to locate and wipe out the Hamas rocket launchers. Why has Israel not done that? If it truly is interested in stopping the attacks, the location is known and can be disharmed. Israel has continued to allow the rocket shelling so it can have legitimacy for counter attacks from the sky and a possible ground offensive. If you take out the Arabs from the middleeast, is there any other country in the world that Israel will turn its massive war armament against? No other grievances for Israel and so a lot of diplomatic jobs at peace negotiations will dry up, a lot of jobs at weapons trading will dry up, a lot of sympathy for the Israeli cause will dry up, there is an emerging cooperation on the religious front between evangelicals and Jewish Rabbis and under the banner of Judeo-Christianity worship. . . without the Arabs this cooperation will dissapear and the Jews will once again be persecuted under canonical philosophies of Greco Roman beliefs. Bottom line, we are all suckers for believing in the fraudulent war and taking sides. |
The developed nations are initiating policies for renewable and alternative energy source. This includes reducing oil and natural gas consumption by seeking alternative natural (GREEN) energy output for public consumption. The agenda is targeted at the impact of combusted carbon and fossil fuel on the environment. Here are some of the alternatives currently under consideration - it's not a full list: Wind power, solar power, nuclear power, coal power, water power, agro oils, e.t.c. Let us look at what we already have available and will require minimum funding to get into operation. Nigeria has ample opportunity to join the global discussion for alternatives and I say this because we have savannah beltland with great topology to build miles and miles of wind tunnell. We are within the 0 and 30 degrees of latitude of the equator, our climate guarantees year round sunlight with minimal shifts in temperature range, giving us abundance of solar energy more than we need for public consumption. We already have Kainji hydro power, we need to explore more opportunities in remote areas and tap into water current to expand hydro energy, possibly for exporting. Agro oils - Nigeria has a lot of oil producing nuts and crops - soy, palm nut, ground nut,, etc, Best among them is corn for ethanol. When petrol was selling for about $2.50 per gallon, ethanol competed and sold for about $1.75 per gallon at the pumps. The only energy source that will require monumental resource is Nuclear energy. Uranium is in Niger so we dont have to go too far for the raw material but then the safety and political ramifications in terms of cost/benefits consideration does not make it a practical option for our country. Beside if we can successfully install and operate the other sources, who needs nuclear energy? Nigerians, please contribute your inputs, what do you think? My intent for this thread is to have positive and concise discussion about global issues and how it affects us politically, commercially and socially. I am seeking well meaning and intelligent people to contribute brilliantly to these global ideas. |
dude,you keep on beating me to the comments i want to makeLuca, they say Great minds think alike! ![]() I am so elated to see that a new link exist for tribalism and sectaraniasm posts. This will leave room for Great minds to converge and discuss practical issues without the unecessary diversions from ellusive minds fantasising about unpragmatic ideals. Thank you Seun and your team for creating the filter. ![]() |
Good one Kobojunkie! If Obama was in Africa he wouldn't be so Great as he is presumed to be. He will end up in same place as the past Obamas we had and failed to uplift. |
Biafran could have been the japan of africaPresido, sure it can be the technological frontier for Africa now. Igbos are not the only African tribes known to be industrious, but given the mineral and agricultural resources in its territorial land and the experience of war Igbos have an advantage to itself far ahead to be the premier of Black technologies. What's holding it back? Biafra was the first level plane ground upon which the identity of Igbo ethnicity was launched to the outside world. Around the globe, people that know about Nigeria and its politics when they meet you they ask what tribe you are from. If you say Igbo they spontaneously respond with a connection to the Biafran war. They do not see the Igbos as industrious people or as technically adept. They see Igbos as a people who fought a war. Their view of Igbos need to change. The Yorubas cannot change that image. The Hausas cannot change that image. It is only the Igbos can change their own image around the globe. Step away from war, from separation, speak loud and clear to the world about other values in your culture and ethnic land that is noble and warm. Raise your appeal. This is the general and consistent tone of my post but I have diverted few times to respond to issues that I shouldn't even have concerned myself with because they do not merit response really. It's a new year, I will have a new style to my posts going forward. Strictly on point, no sidetalk! ![]() |
Mr Negro nts,get your facts right before telling blatant lies on the internet and sound like a big fool. Stop telling silly lies just to justify the evil machinations of Awolowo that failed woefully.Talk intelligently and stop frothing in the mouth with dissipated anger. Don't let your hatred for Awo and Yoruba men generally affect your health and emotional well being. Your blood is boiling with anger. Calm down. My family lives all over northern Nigeria.. . . and ? They fled the war and their homes were occupied by the indigenes.Here, let me detail the truth for you. . . My statement is based on a Kano State paper documents dated 1978 detailing accounts of homes and other properties in dispute of ownership. I will tell you the specific area where the homes were located. The owners were not dead they came back for their homes and it led to dispute in court. The land deed had been converted to Arabic and had to be re-translated back into english. But. . .I see that you are already emotionally roused so let me help you intensify your blood temperature. Igbos that owned land properties in the following zones in Kano forfeited much of it in spoils of war re-distribution to Hausa indigenes. The stretch of properties along Airport road from the intersection of Ahmadu Bello Way to the old Polo grounds. Properties along Murtala Muhammed road bordering on both sides from the intersection of Kofar Nassarawa to Ado Bayero road. There is numerous zoneswith similar claims of dispute in the Fagge District. If you still don't believe, then simply go to Kano State department of land and survey and review deeds around this time period and compare documented ownerships before and after the war. |
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL, BIG LUCK AND BRIGHTER PROSPECTS IN 2009! ![]() Domisakin, Great way to map a future career for yourself. It's a big challenge to implement change in Nigeria and it can be done. It will be done when the mindset of the majority is spirited towards change and their action is aligned towards transformative responsibilities. It's only a handful of the population that think with your perspective for landmark progress. So be prepared for an up and down of feeling as you engage yourself in Nigerian politics. How do you prepare? If you are not strong the politics will change you and you become part and parcel of what you set out to rehabilitate. In order to remain objective and above the mayhem, the first challenge is within your own individuality. Be commited to a set of principles for self-audit and feedback. If you can do that consistently and make the corrective steps needed to grow and improve then your competence will carry you through. The best analogy is that of a water ski-board; its part of the water but its not of water and it synchronizes with the melody of the water thus allowing the skier to dance on the water. Best of Luck! ![]() |
Thank you Naijababe that you see my point. It does not matter what view we support as individuals, to separate Nigeria or to stay together, the foundation is a healing process. If we want to divide the country then we need to heal some old wounds first before we then go separate. If we want to continue, then we need to heal some old woumds first before we can advance. Again, thank you Babe for understanding the bottom line. |
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