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Arabic - Masallam - place of prayer
Yoruba - Mosalasi - mosque

There are many errors in the article but the above is a very good one. Arabic for house or place of prayer is Masjid and translates to mosque. This is the same disconnect they had with the Khalifa/Alfa interpretation. The Yoruba language is interwoven into rituals and cannot be studied independent of the traditional Yoruba worship and ritual of living.

Fulaman198: Songhai though is a nilo-saharan language and closer related to Kanuri.

. . . how does that reduce the points I made about Arabic having a common source with Yoruba?

There are hundreds of words in Yoruba that co-exist in Arabic and Hebrew but have no presence or meaning in any of these supposedly interlink States that researchers and authors claim as the donor for Yoruba-Arabic words.

When you go into Yoruba rituals, they are heavily loaded with Old Hebrew words. In fact, I think researchers ought to study Yoruba to find missing words and meanings lost to the Muslim Arabs.

There is no 4th majority in Nigeria. . . it will remain 3. What you observed is an incremental displacement in the East.

The Arbiter: The Arabic roots of many contemporary Yoruba words has been investigated. Titled “On Arabic Loans in Yoruba,” it was written by Professor Sergio Baldi, a well-regarded Italian linguist, who presented it at the Annual Conference on African Linguistics in California, USA, in March 1995.

Below are excerpts from the article as presented by Farooq A. Kperogi. To download a copy or read the complete article CLICK HERE.

1. Abere. This Yoruba word for “needle” traces its etymology to the Arabic “ai-bra,” which also means needle.

2. Adura. This is the Yoruba word for prayers. In fact, there is a popular syncretic Christian sect in Yorubaland that goes by the name “aladura,” meaning “people who pray” or “praying people.” Many other northern and central Nigerian languages have some version of this word to denote prayers. It is derived from the Arabic “du’a,” which also means prayers.

3. Alubosa. This Yoruba word for “onion” was borrowed from the Hausa “albasa,” which in turn borrowed it from the Arabic “al-basal.”

4. Alufa/Alfa. This is a widely used word for a Muslim scholar (and occasionally any Muslim) not just in Yorubaland but in Nupeland, Borgu, Igalaland, Ebiraland, etc. It is now increasingly used by Yoruba Muslim women as a term of respect for their husbands.

Surprisingly, the word is absent in the Hausa language. It came as no surprise therefore when Professor Baldi suggested that the word came to the Yoruba language—and many other central Nigerian languages—through the Songhai. It is derived from the Arabic “khalifah,” which means a “successor” or a “representative” (of the prophet of Islam). It was first corrupted to “Alfa” by the Songhai who later exported their version of the word to western and central Nigeria—and to other parts of West Africa. Many Songhai were itinerant Islamic preachers who traveled all over West Africa.

5. Atele/itele. It means “following” in Yoruba, and it is derived from “at-talin,” which also means “following” in Arabic.

6. Amodi. It means “disease” in Yoruba and is derived from “al-marad,” the Arabic word for disease.

7. “Amo.” It is a conjunction in Yoruba, which performs the same function that the word “but” performs in English; it introduces contrast. It is rendered as “amma” in Hausa, which is the way it is rendered in its original Arabic form.

8. Anfani. This Yoruba word for “utility” or “importance” also occurs in Hausa, Batonu, and many northern and central Nigerian languages. It is derived from the Arabic “naf,” which means “advantage, profit.”

9. Ara/ apaara. The word means "thunder" in Yoruba, and is derived from the Arabic “ar-ra’d.”

10. Asiri. It means “secret” in Yoruba, Hausa, and in many other Nigerian languages. It is derived from the Arabic “as-sirr” where it also means “secret.”

11. Barika. This is the Yoruba word for “congratulations.” It is rendered as “barka” in Hausa. The word’s original Arabic form is “al-baraka,” which means “greetings.”

12. Borokinni. It means a “gentleman, respected man in a secure financial position.” The word is also found in many Borgu languages, such as Batonu and Bokobaru, where “boro” means a “friend.” It is derived from the Arabic “rukn,” which means “support, corner, basic element.”

13. Faari. It means “showing off” or “boastfulness” or “ostentatious display” in Yoruba. It has the same meaning in many Borgu languages. It is derived from the Arabic “fakhr,” which means “glory, pride, honor.” (Note that “kh” is a guttural sound in Arabic, which is close to a hard “h” in English. That sound was dropped by Nigerian languages).

14. Fitila. It means any kind of lamp. Its roots are located in the Arabic word for lamp, which is “fatil.”

15. Ijamba. Professor Baldi defines this word as “bodily harm,” but the meaning of the word I’m familiar with is one that associates it with cunning, cheating, deceit. It is derived from the Arabic “danb,” or “danba,” which means “sin, crime.” (Note that Arabic frequently dispenses with end vowels (that is, a, e, i, o, and u) in words, whereas many Nigerian languages almost always end words with a vowel—and add them to words they borrow from other languages if such words lack an end vowel).

16. Imale. This is the Yoruba word for “Muslim.” I read previous interpretations of this word from Yoruba scholars who say it is Yoruba for “that which is difficult” to underscore the difficulty of Islamic practices like praying five times a day, fasting for 30 days during Ramadan, etc. Other Yoruba scholars said the word initially denoted “people from Mali” since the Songhai people who Islamized Yoruba land in the 15th century were from Mali.

But Baldi argues that “imale” is the corruption of the Arabic “Mu’alim,” which means a teacher. In the Hausa language, the word is rendered as Maalam. It’s interesting that “Mallam” has become the synonym for Hausa (or northern) Muslim in southern Nigeria.

17. Iwaju. It’s the Yoruba word for “front part.” I didn’t imagine that this word had an Arabic origin until I read Baldi’s article. It is derived from the Arabic “al-wajh,” which means “front” or “face.”

18. Iwaasu. It is the Yoruba term for “preaching” or “sermon.” It is used by both Christians and Muslims in Yorubaland, and is derived from the Arabic “waz,” which means “admonition” or “sermon.” (The Yoruba language has no “z” sound, so it substitutes “z” with “s” when it borrows words from other languages with “z” sounds).

19. Suuru. It means “patience” not only in Yoruba but in many languages in central and northern Nigeria. It is derived from the Arabic “sabr,” which also means “patience.”

20. Talaka. It means the poor. It came to Yoruba by way of Hausa, which borrowed it from the Tuareg (where it is rendered as "taleqque" and where it means “a poor woman”). It’s also used in Mandingo, Songhai languages, Kanuri, Teda, and many West African languages. Baldi says this word has no Arabic origins. On the surface, this may be true. After all, the Arabic word for a poor person is “fakir” (plural: “fuqura”).

However, “talaq,” as most Muslims know, is the Arabic word for divorce. (The chapter of the Qur'an that deals with the subject of divorce is called Suratul Talaq). Talaq is derived from the verb “talaqa,” which means to “disown,” to “repudiate.” In times past (and it’s still the case today in many Muslim societies) if a woman was divorced, she was invariably thrown into poverty. Thus, Tuaregs used the term “taleqque” to denote a “poor woman.” But Hausa, Kanuri, Yoruba, Mandingo, and other West African languages expanded the original Tuareg meaning of the word to include every poor person. This is my theory.

21. Tobi. This Yoruba word for “women’s knickers” is derived from the Arabic “taub,” which means “garment,” “dress,” “cloth.” Another tonal variation of this word leads to a different Yoruba word, which means “big.”

22. Wahala. Well, this isn’t just a Yoruba word by way of Hausa; it’s made its way into most Nigerian languages—and into West African Pidgin English. It means “trouble,” and it’s derived from the Arabic “wahla,” which means “fright,” “terror.”

The truth of the matter is that both Yoruba and Arabic have roots in old Hebrew, and not the popular misconception that Yoruba borrowed from Arabic.

There are many words in Yoruba which coincide with Arabic but does not exist in Songhai or Hausa language and one have to wonder how the leapt could have been possible without a middle link. This is so because no one is studying or researching Yoruba language as a proto semitic tongue, the researchers are always looking for a middle link to explain the conjunction between Yoruba and Arabic.

For example. . .Ale (night in Yoruba) is equivalent to Al'Layl (night in Arabic) but does not occur in either of Songhai or Hausa. Also, Alantakun (spider in Yoruba) is Al'Ankabut (spider in Arabic) and does not have same form in Songhai or Hausa.. Most words in Yoruba that begin with Al or L will have this conjunction with Arabic and is strictly because they both evolved out of the same tongue source. Arabic has remained in its semitic landscape and region whereas Yoruba has vacated and moved far away and ended in dilution by different influences in the host landscape.

Some point of corrections. . . Kahlifa exist in Yoruba as a separate word from Alfa, so it is not a mixup. Also, Imale exist seaparate from Mola (Mu'allim), there is no confusion in its use or meaning.

Mimiko's liberalism does not favor the Yoruba nationalism. We must remain alert to the National impulse and stick to conservatism for West. The fundamental unit of political representation for Yorubas must be under the banner of the ACN. Collectivism, not individualism!! Mimiko's pontification is unacceptable!!

Beautiful pictures and couples.

So igbos finally realized the beauty of embroidery and colors. You traditionall dress in reds. Red knitted hat, red and black buba with pictures of lion and wrapper loin cloth round waist. Now I see ibo men wearing trousers and matching top with hat made of colors beside red. Great improvement! 20yrs from now you will start boasting that you invented it. lol

The only way Ibo will ever get any ruling against Nigeria on the war is to vote in a Ibo President in Nigeria. Get your own son up there to do the fighting on your behalf. . .ICC has no interest in your case!

I have said it many times before and it is worth repeating here, except for the Efiks and Ibibios and Annangs, all the ethnic group of people on the Eastern side of River Niger are politically dumb and unsavvy. They are on the wrong side of that river!

I can't believe that GEJ gave a response to the 'dog and babboon" comment made by Buhari. What a stupid move by GEJ, he is trapped into a corner now.

Expressing displeasure at the arrest which he considered unfortunate, Sulaiman said the plot by the militant Islamic sect, Boko Haram, to carry out violent attacks in the southern part of the country has probably been frustrated by security agencies.

The sect, he explained, had chosen some southern cities such as Lagos, Ibadan, Enugu, Onitsha and Warri for attacks.

National Daily gathered that following sustained attacks on the sect's strongholds in Borno and Yobe states by security agencies, Boko Haram members had dispersed to other parts of the country.

Sources said that the sect, which had carried out several devastating bombings and gun attacks in Kano that claim over 185 lives, was looking beyond the North in its future terror campaign.

One of the reasons for spreading its operation to the South, it was learned, was in order not to limit its campaign to an ethnic agenda.

Security source said that there is the likelihood that some sponsors of Boko Haram are Southerners.

hahahahahaha. . . . what a funny bunch! An arrested terrorist is given microphone to make a speech to the public. This is not a confession. . . this is a speech, giving credence to the skills and competencies of the JTF and expressing regret for a failed plot. wtf are the people think they are fooling? I thought he was Yoruba from Ogbomosho, now we hear he was born in Ogbomosho. Anyone can be born in Ogbomosho. . .Hausa, Ibo, Tiv. . . that doesnt make them Yoruba. b. . shyyt!!!

Biafra4tharmy: for the sake of clarity the history of the ibo people took various dimension, first during the assyrian invasion of Jerusalem the tribe of Gad(10th son of Jacob) left for safety reason to Ethiopia and sudan before following the river down to the southeast where they settled. They were later joined by the tribe of Zebulun and the priestly Eri(NRI which is the ancestral homeland of Ndi igbo stil in Anambra state today). Archeological in 1917 the most sacred symbol of the jews where found in Nri(igbo land) thats the STAR OF DAVID how does it get there? .do you know that Igbo or Ibo is a corrupt word for Hebrew? It was pronouned HEEBO so the whitemen spelt it Ibo instead of Igbos(hebrews). Awka capital of Anambra is a corrupt form of original pronounciation *ORKA* etc

WOW!! How come you know this and your dumb brothers - ak47, bashr, ngodigha, Fire and the rest - do not? Have you thought about teaching this history? This is my first time hearing of this Ibo relationship to GAD and Jews, amazing discovery.

Thank you dude! . . . . but you still have not answered my question. How come you do not have any honor to Ephraim or Fra on your land but you named the bight for him and the bight does not even belong in your territory? Thats mind boggling, dont you think?

Biafra4tharmy: Pls @OP get your data straight Biafra is not gotten from any english word Bi Afro such is a product of your lucid dreams. Biafra is an igbo word meaning "Come Ephraim" thats Bia(come) Fra(corrupted form for Ephraim the israelites).

That is logical, but is it accurate? If Fra is a corrupted name for Ephraim, can we say France is from the same root word? How about Frankfurt and Francisco, are all these from the corrupted Ephraim also? Also, how is it that a location outside of Iboland bears a reference to Ephraim, one of your Jewish ancestors when there is not a single reference point on your own land for this honor to him?

Thanks for the enlightenement.

Mr Fire: Why and how did Oduduwa fall from the sky? Was he pushed by God, by Satan or by some angels?
How did a renegade/rebellious Benin prince become the Yoruba progenitor
How is Yabatech the third oldest institution of higher learning in Africa and 27th in the world.
Why did Awolowo commit suicide?

So many questions, no answers.

. . . it's a shrouded mystery for the wise, not meant for fools like you and bashr to understand.

Ngodigha,

me chionu!!

What does Biafra mean?

I know the name was adopted from Bight of Biafra. Biafra is a composition of two words BI and AFRO, to denote a virtual cutting of Africa into two by the Equator. BIAFRA is the catchy phrase given to the bight below the Delta and Cameroon.

You are running away from Nigeria, a name given by a foreigner, to form Biafra, another name formulated by a foreigner.

Anyway, this Biafra that you are emotionally and egotistically connected to, what bearing does it have to your culture, customs, rituals, aspirations or even history? Unlike Akwa Ibom, Cross River, Bayelsa and Rivers people, you are not even close by it.

You need to come up with a new name for your sovereignty.

Yanmiri don carry okija juju go to Guadalapas. Na wa for una! hehehehehehe!!

There is a tactic in politics that is very effective in shaping popular opinion about an opponent and here is how it's done.

You generate falsehoods and bogus claims about your opponent and you modulate them with actual and real events. This raises doubt about his credibility and he is perceived in public opinion as an untrustowrthy leader. If your bogus claims are consumed then you have accomplished your purpose of damaging the opponent's character. If your claims don't hold water, it could backfire and hurt your own image. So you self preserve by doing damage control - you offer apology on behalf of a staff (a ghost, really. . .)who erroneously did not check their facts before going to press. You can also say the supposedly ghost staff has been released of his duties. . . .just so the audience can pass it off forgivingly!

I expect someone to come up with an apology soon for this error in connection with Osun.

So "f...kng" what if he is Yoruba man? Na Yorubaman go be first to lead a terrorist group or belong to one?

The issue here is they caught a boko leader, whether or not he is Yoruba is secondary. . . the primary point of concern is that they associate him with the same State they recently labeled as being Islamiced by its Governor, who they accused of importing or sponsoring Yoruba youths to Cuba for terrorism training.


There is a plot to connect Osun and its governor with Islamization, terrorism and destabilization, whether it is false claim directly thrown from PDP or from spins leaked to press by ASO or even in unconnected events as we are witnessing with Suleiman Mohammed's arrest.

. . in what year did carnival start in Calabar?

ezotik: u nor see this fool? u wanted to know where im from, and i've told u. now u say u dont give a fvck? why did u ask, if u didnt care to know? or u thought i would say i fell from the sky like u have been made to believe about oduduwa... sorry to disappoint u then.

now, u are looking for our footprints from egpyt to our present location? we didnt walk, we flew! now die.

. . . tell it to Osahon. He needs all the info he can collect and put together for his next edition of the almighty Bini throne.

ezotik: im an ovbiedo kpataki. and edo people are ivbiotor meaning children of the spoil. i was born in benin and immiediately after my birth, my grandpa gave me my first bath with the benin spoil that i came out from and when i die, my body will be flown from wherever it is in the world and buried in that same benin spoil while my soul take its eternal rest in ehivbin.

. . . .shutup! mumu!! who gives a fvck what spoil you were bathed in? Get bathed in petrol if you want, thats yo headache.

tell me how your ovbiedo connects with Osahon's Egypt or shut the h.el.l up!

ezotik: shut the fvck up, idi0t.
if u are upset that oduduwa is not from afro-asia or some other silly location u can conjure in ur coconut head, why don’t u drink otapiapia and die?

why must oduduwa be the one who came down from heaven with a chain? why not the eleko? an idi0t like u should even be more worried about the eleko because of the importance of lagos to present day nigeria. ife is dead and gone and holds no importance in present day nigeria. so start making up stories of how eleko fell from heaven if u know whats good for u because considerin the way nigeria is going, u will be in for a rude shock the number of people who will lay claim to ur beloved lagos when that disintegration finally happens.

I am proud of my origins, Eko, Ife, AfroAsia. . . wherever else you want to add. Let's hear where you are from. Where are you from, I love telling people the part of their history thats never been told to them.

stu pid fvcker!

ezotik: wtf is that sh1t? are u mad?

dude,. . . if it upsets you go sit yo a.s.s on a hot stove and cool off!

Katsumoto: No I am not; the basis of my opinion is the oral traditions which you mention.

Yes, Ifa was a person just as Shango, Ogun, Oya, Orunmila were all people. The Yoruba deify people just as the greeks, romans did and as the Catholics do.

You state that you can't accept the account of a foreigner but you want to accept the account of Sultan Bello. Isn't he also a foreigner?

Well here is an oral source, try and finish it

Orunmila baba ifa
Ifa baba Agboniregun
...............

There is no oral tale in Yoruba about a migration from Mesopotamia, Medina or any other far eastern society. According to oral traditions, Olodumare created Orunmila and that creation was at Ife. The fallacy about migration was started by Muslim scholars, for reasons which I touched upon earlier, and latched onto by Europeans. If Sargon fled Mesopotamia in 605 BC, why did it take him almost 1800 years to reach Ife if Oduduwa was the father/son/grandson of Sargon?

Ifa is a sacred manuscript of nature, it is not a person. Orunmila is a divine head, it is not a person. Yes, Yoruba deify people but we know which people those are, Ifa and Orunmila are not people.

My use of foreigner is along the Euro/Afro divide. From that angle, Bello is not a foreigner to me, whereas Clapperton is. Many people dismiss oral accounts as conjectures, but they believe steadfastly in the virtue of written accounts not bothering to critique it for gaps and omissions. I have little patience for idiots that beg for evidence out of oral accounts or for fools that flash written references as evidence of validity to claims.

To say there is no oral history in Yoruba about a migration from AfroAsia is to say we have exhausted all researches on Yoruba athropology and found no evidence. You know that is not the case. Johnson's work and trace of Yoruba roots was taken from oral accounts and its publication was supressed. Edited copies were published. The controversy on Yoruba roots is a challenge that cry for a thorough research.

The oral phrase you challenged me to finish is literal. There are many phrases and idioms in Yoruba language that are best left alone in their original and not translated to English. Translating them reduces their meaning and function in our cosmoloical understanding. Yoruba accounts like the one you quoted is spoken as a wisdom, not as a jingo. I will give you an example.

Oduduwa was said to have descended on a chain from heaven. Many people, literate in English but illiterate in Yoruba mystery, think this to mean that he climbed down physically from heaven to earth, realizing that such action is counter-logical and impossible then conclude it to be a myth and a falsehood. The meaning behind that oral tradition is veiled and for good reason. If Ife was the origin of man and the first man came down on a chain into a realm filled with water where he was aided by a rooster to turn up solid earth for his feet to stand on, then where did he get the chain from? Chain is made of iron, which is fabricated from ores mined out of the earth. If water existed before him and he and the rooster existed before earth, then who made this chain and what is it made out of?

Look, I dont want to derail this thread on Edo. . . .the Oba and Osahon and his mumu followers got their own problem to sort out. If you are interested in learning these things, then do me a favor and open a topic for that purpose.

PhysicsQED: You think I care enough about Osahon's article to start discussing it? I've no interest in his article or his claims and as I've said before, had you not brought up this Yoruba-Kanuri imbroglio, I would not have bothered to respond to the thread. Since you brought up the Yoruba-Kanuri fiasco, you should elaborate on it.

By the way, I got the impression that the Oba of Lagos was your king. Since he agreed with the Oba of Benin, what does that mean? What are you going to label him?

Akiolu did not agree with Benin on the account. You erroneously took my silence for agreement. You said you are aware of what Bello said, which is no different from what I said. What else is there to know?

Focus yourself to the task of repairing your Oba's image, and possibly Osahon's in the face of these published falsehoods. Yoruba-Kanuri link as a written and well discussed material has more legitimacy than your Bini-Egypt link.

Katsumoto: All of the above.

There are many pieces from the far eastern flight to Africa that don't fit together.

No one is really sure where these men fled from precisely although the most vocal voices state the flight started from Mesopotamia. Dierk Lange is one of the leading historians of this flight tale.

He alleges that
1. Nabopolassar was Alaafin Abiodun. Nabopolassar was BC while Alaafin Abiodun lived in the 18th century
2. Oranyan was Jacob; if all Yoruba agree that Oranyan was the son of Oduduwa, then how can Oranyan be Jacob
3. The Mesopotamian Sargon was known in different West African regions by different names and yet he helped establish all these origins. He was Okanbi in Yoruba, Najib in Hausa, Qanda in Songhay.

My conclusion is that Oduduwa was Ekaladerhan, the Bini prince, who fled to Ife. When Oduduwa got to Ife, he met Setilu (Agboniregun) who was the son of Ifa as Ifa was the son of Orunmila. Oral traditions point to Orunmila as the progenitor of the Yoruba. I for one will not believe that Oduduwa was the progenitor of the Yoruba because Oduduwa met Yoruba people at Ife. The rulers of Ife who were deposed by the people of Ife for Oduduwa migrated south to present day Ugbo (Ilaje).

I can't discount the point that Sargon and his army may have fled into Africa but they are likely to have tried to blend into local populations rather than built new empires. I am not one of those who buys into African dynasties springing from Far eastern civilizations. Sorry I can't shed more light now.

Well, you are committing the same error you fault Lange for.

From your Setilu account I must ask, is Ifa a person, when was he born and when was his father Orunmila born? You speak of them authoritatively as if you are the custodian of these oral histories. There are thousands of correct and logical trace. . . why pick Lange's fantastico story for validity test on the Yoruba account.

I love oral history and I love written history but I am totally Afrocentric in both. A foreigner cannot tell my origin and beginning better than my own fore fathers and their ancestors can relate their own experience down the line. The first question I will ask the foreigner is where did he/she get the first account of the story? It had to be from oral source and from the native of course. So how accurate is the foreigner if his written story is factored and subsisted on a supposedly false oral account told to him?

In fact, this is not the best place to talk about Oduduwa myth of coming down the chain or sending a rooster to scratch the earth's surface. We have to do it on a separate topic dedicated for that.

I challenge you to the task, go for it when you are ready.

PhysicsQED: You keep asking people who have expressed no belief in migration from Egypt to defend somebody else's claim of migration from Egypt.

My only interest on this thread is to learn about the Yoruba-Kanuri fiasco. I've already read your tale of Yoruba and Gobir, and now I would like some more of these bedtime stories so I can go to sleep. It's got nothing to do with attacking anyone.

You came in to a topic that had a banner clearly stating "The Correct History Of Edo" to hear about Yoruba-Kanuri link. Keep deceiving yourself.

Anyway, just admit your Oba is a spinner and so is Osahon. They are claiming grounds that is too far beyond their reach. The gap filler in their account rests under the Ife soil.

Katsumoto: The account of Sultan Bello, in his Infaq al maysur, that Yoruba people were expelled from Iraq by Yarub Qhatan is a fairy tale.

I believe it was a tale started by Muslim scholars to make converting Yorubas to Islam easier by highlighting the similarities in origin of the Yoruba, Fulani, Kanem, Songhay, etc.

How did you determine this, from a book you read or from your own deduction?

PhysicsQED: Negro ntns, I'm familiar with the Clapperton-Bello stuff and have been for a while. I didn't ask about that, but about details regarding Yoruba-Kanuri entanglement.

By the way, given that no Bini poster in this thread so far has accepted the "Egypt ----> Edo" stuff or expressed even the slightest belief in it, why do you keep repeating that request?

I'm not interested in Egypt------>West Africa claims.

Then Im vindicated in my first assertion that you are interested in singling Negro out for attack. You attempted to brush it off, but it has become apparent and its hard to hide under "light tease" for excuse.

My challenge to bokohalal was to use that same model of accounting through an independent source that existed for Yoruba, in connection with Gobir, Kanuri and Sudan to give us a chart of the Egypt immigration for Bini. . . anything, Eurocentric, Afrocentric, Plutocentric. . .anything at all to explain and support Osahon's claim for Bini.

. . . this is where you jumped in to defend your Oba. So you have seen my tale and my myth and you have seen Bello's tale and myth and Clapperton's tale and myth. Show us now any tale and myth to support Osahon. Dont sidestep this challenge.

Beaf: It is the low self esteem in you that expesses itself in ethnic bigotry. It is that same low self-esteem that leads people like you to forge history.
That same low self-esteem causes you to be engrossed in the revisionist "history" you have forged.

Its like the KKK, Nazi's, BNP and other bunches of mad men.

Pathetic.

Take your turn on the queue. . . line up behind Physics and wait for me to call you for your own narration of your roots and how you ended up in the creek.

PhysicsQED: I have knowledge of it only from your mention of it on this thread. Kindly elaborate on the Yoruba-Kanuri history. Thanks.

There is nothing in Sultan Bello's account that is new to you or any of us here. That was a corroboration from a Fulani in synch with accounts in Ife.

In fact Clapperton's interview with him was primarily to make discoveries about the origins of the Eyos (Oyos). Clapperton, being an adventurer himself, believed that Fulani nomadic lifestyle is adventurous and therefore they will serve as a reliable source, on account of their broad and distance travels across the desert belt from Mauritania to Sudan in caravans and with herds down to the savannah grasslands, and will be a far better authority from whom to learn and discover about the Eyo (Oyo) people.

So Sultan Bello narrated, tracking the beginning from Lamarudu in AfroAsia to Oduduwa in Ife and everything else inbetween where they had stopped and influenced cultures- Kanuri and Sudan and Gobir were mentioned by him. Modern researches are making new discoveries that back up that account.

Now,. . .give us your navigation from Egypt to Bini and every oasis inbetween that you stopped to replenish your camel.

PhysicsQED: Actually the Oba of Lagos supported the Oba of Benin's account a few years ago and he was criticized for it by some people. So maybe we should not dwell on that.

Let's instead dwell on Yoruba and Kanuri and Sudan.

lol@few years ago. How many years and which Oba, Oyekan or Akiolu?

PhysicsQED: I never saw or read about any Yoruba-Kanuri episode from your collection of stories, or else I would not be asking for it now. Kindly provide a link. I'm only familiar with the legend of Gobir and Yoruba from you so far.

If you have knowledge of me talking about it, then apparently you read it or was told about it. That was your opportunity when it was a live discussion to jump in and get clarifications. "The Correct History of Edo" is live in discussion, "Yoruba-Kanuri" is not. Do not sidestep my challenge to you to share your roadmap across the desert between Egypt and Bini.