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CultureRe: Origin Of Ifa by NegroNtns(m): 2:04pm On Aug 23, 2011
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Is it not better to use the term binary system instead of duality, with regard to creation since duality refers to equality whereas the creation narrative clearly mentions the greater and lesser e.g. Sun and Moon, as observed by Alice Linsley as well?

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Binary is a scientific term and denotes something discrete and interchangeable in its essence.

For instance in an event of 1 0 0 1, the zeros and ones are interchangeable in state given an elapsed time - its dynamic.

Duality in nature does not change from its designated state - its fixed in its nature.

Equality is an illusion.
CultureRe: Origin Of Ifa by NegroNtns(m): 1:16pm On Aug 23, 2011
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About the switch of seniority for twin delivery, I guess it is related strictly to fraternal twins. If the twins are identical would the switch still apply? Also, I don't yet know how egoistic science can observe in real time the fertilization process to see the order

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In both instances, fraternal and identical, the delivery is one at a time. The first child out is Taiwo, the second is Kehinde and their seniority is cross-switched.
CultureRe: Origin Of Ifa by NegroNtns(m): 1:05pm On Aug 23, 2011
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My preliminary take on the origin of Ifa is that it was in use and perhaps misused before and during the time of Noah and that blind and/or wicked people might have introduced fables and, like for Genesis 1-3, perhaps literal interpretations for allegory in some instances. I have also heard from someone who listened to an interview with Oschoffa of Celestial Church of Christ wherein he said that GOD allowed the white man to suppress the Yoruba (Hamites in general?) peoples with religion because of the wicked application of secret knowledge by the latter. Instances can be seen in accounts of the time Jesus was in Egypt (according to Thomas?), that of Moses' rod and those of the Egyptian magicians, and the stories that still abound today (Nkan n be type).

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You are correct. The knowledge meant for use to advance humanity we divert and use to deplete humanity. Let me highlight a very good instance in the case of Moses.

Moses went on a vigil, he went up the mountain to pray and recive instructions from God. Prior to departing he left Aaron in charge of the flock.

Shortly after he left, the children of Israel became agitated and started rebeling. They took ornaments and melted them in a furnace and created a gold mold of a calf that they started worshipping. When Moses returned and discovered this he was very upset and asked Aaron why he allowed that to happen. Aaron said he could not restrain them but he foresaw this might happen and so he had scooped up the sand footprint left when Moses departed.

Aaron's action was meant to preserve Moses authority and it worked because the authority of his voice when he addressed them appeased their rebellion and he ended up leading them for 40yrs afterwards.

If it hadn't been for Aaron's action using occult art to preserve authority the children of Israel would not have accepted the 10 commandments or the Old Testament.

In Africa, black people use occult art for the wrong reason - we don't scoop footprint to preserve anything, we will use it to cripple and maim so the owner of the foot end up loosing use of the foot thus becoming handicapped and loosing their capability for productive lifestyle.

In the Biblical narration of Noah's flood alone there are very many occult codes. Even in the worshipping of the calf there is occultism.

Egypt was the home of occultism back then. From Egypt occult art and priesthood was exported to every corner of the earth.
CultureRe: Origin Of Ifa by NegroNtns(m): 12:05pm On Aug 23, 2011
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One more observation - have you considered the following verse?Genesis 25:22: And the children struggled together within her: and she said, If [it is] so, why [am] I thus? And she went to inquire of the LORD.
I wonder how Rebekah inquired when in the previous verse it was recorded that "Isaac entreated the LORD for his wife".

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I'd love first to respond to this question. I will take them (your questions) in piecemeal.

Isaac was the father of the twins Esau and Jacob. Jacob, later named Israel was the father of twelve children from where the twelve tribes of Israel originated and amongst whom was Levite - the bloodline of the three siblings, Moses, Aaron and Miriam who were born in late generations.
Miriam, the eldest interceded with Pharaoh's wife to hire a nursing mother for baby Moses. She is one of the revered women in Islam, beside Maryam (Jesus' mother).

"Rebeccah inquired of the Lord". "Isaac entreated the Lord".

How, in what manner or line of communication (what medium) was this contact or interaction made?

Of course through divination and offerings!
CultureRe: Origin Of Ifa by NegroNtns(m): 12:29am On Aug 23, 2011
'Will wait for your response.

I used to but is no longer active. It was called

"TheGlobalCouncil.org"
CultureRe: Origin Of Ifa by NegroNtns(m): 10:45pm On Aug 22, 2011
Amorphous,

1. Except for one or two knowledge, I am not completely familiar with the people of Phut. Here is what I know:

Libya, Morroocco and Mauritania was settled by them.

Similarly, there was a third woman, Ketura, that bore children for Abraham, one of whom was Afar. The descendants of Afar spread southward into the African Savannah - Mali, Guinea, Futa, Agades and so on. The descendants of Phut spread Northward into Spain, Portugal, French Mediterranean and so on.


2. On the bloodlines, your observation was correct. There were two bloodlines that were suppressed in the Biblical accounts.

(A) that of Ham
(B) that of Ishmaeli branch in the Shem line.

In the 1800s, Reverend Crowther, a Yoruba of Egba stock, after acquiring knowledge in Theology, came to the understanding that there is an intimate link between the Yoruba language and culture and *Semitic* roots. He took on the challenge of producing a Yoruba language Bible. Yoruba literature at that time were written using Ajami - a Semitic style of writing that is more popular and widespread only in Arabic. The influence of his missionary position however swayed him to adopt the Latin/Roman alphabets for his literary works on the Yoruba Bible.  

++Note - This is how Esu was equated with the devil. Yoruba had no conscious concept and no term for devil in the same meaning and context the Europeans did. So the closest deity of the Yoruba culture with similar force nature to devil was adopted and that was Esu.++

Based on his findings, both in his theological studies and language translation, Reverend Crowther wrote a book detailing the journey of the Yorubas and their roots as a proto-Semitic people. The misionaries - CMS - whom he trusted to publish the book suppressed the history and told him the manuscript was lost.

I say all that to point out the suppress and isolate tactic used to teach people the wrong history and ideology.

*Semitic* - to those who are locked into the "semitic = Jew" notion. I used *semitic* here to denote a broad race of people of Afro Asiatic origin.


On Yoruba twin births. The success story of twins is celebrated in many verses of Ifa corpus. We know Ifa predates Abraham, who predated Moses, who brought Torah (Old Testament) in which accounts were also made of twin births.

Duality in nature was started in the first day of creation. It continued into the time of Noah, with the "two of every kind" instruction and the duality continues even today to emanate itself. However, there are two aspects of the twin birth that are unique to Yoruba.

There is an unbeaten record of twin birth rates in Yoruba blood.

(A) Ifa is the only scripture with details and rituals to celebrate twin births.

++ Note - When I say rituals I don't want it to be taken as a devilish or idol worshipping. Rituals was given a bad image by whiteman and because our education and philosophical taughts are shaped after oyinbo's ideals we Africans have equally come to regard ritual as heathenism. Ritual is life, good life!  Everything in Old testament is ritual. Every command and every injunction, including the altar design and the offerings placed on it are all rituals. So you cannot accept the rituals of the Bible as Godly and demonize the ritual of Ifa as idol worship. ++

(B) Yoruba is the only people that switch seniority of birth in a twin delivery, making the first arrival junior to the second arrival and every one else in that delivery of a multiple birth retain their numbered order of arrival. Example: first to arrive is Taiwo, second is Kehinde, third is Idowu, fourth is Alaba, fifth is Idogbe and so on.

In Yoruba culture Kehinde is switched and becomes the eldest, followed in seniority by Taiwo. Idowu remains third, followed by Alaba and then Idogbe.

But why do we practice this switch and why is it limited to just the first two?  

The answer is the same with the Dada hair mystery (lock-hair).

In the Bible, Esau (Edom) was the elder of Jacob (Israel) but their birthrights were switched in an errand ordered by the Father and in which Jacob's mother interferred to favor her son. Also, Jacob in his old age, nearing death, ordered his son Joseph to bring Manasseh and Simeon (Joseph's sons) for blessings. When Jacob crossed his hands and placed right hand on Simeon's head and left on Manasseh's, Joseph asked why is Father switching the blessings of the elder with the younger.

This was a perfect moment for the Bible to make reference to Ifa corpus but instead it reduced the reason to mere circumstance of choice in both incidences. From that point on the Children of Israel (Jews) have practiced the crossed blessings.

To the Jews it was a ritual practiced by their fathers. To Yorubas it is a ritual of origin in Ifa.

The first egg to be fertilized is the second to arrive and the second egg is the first arrival. Someday Western Science will catch up to it. Like they did binary code and the ordered sequence 256 upon which a mathematical theorem was built and is applied in quantum physics.

Dada's hair is another marker to the many list of markers that exist to make the Yoruba / Afro-Asia link credible.

I may be wrong but in all accounts so far I have examined Yorubas are also the only one of a few people in the world with natural born dreadlocks.

The dreadlocks was another of proto-semitic feature but is more prominent with Jews.

If you recall, Samson's dreadlock was cut to weaken his strength.

In early Islam it was important to distinguish between Moslems and non-moslems. So physically visible features such as full beard, shaven head became sunnah (tradition). The shaving of head was such that its even recommended that newborn must be shaven before the naming ceremony on the 7th day. The newborn hair is considered unclean for spiritual worship and thus all clothing in contact must be washed and the body cleansed prior to prayer.  

I will pause for questions.
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Warns Ministers To Cooperate With Okonjo-iweala Or Get Sacked by NegroNtns(m): 6:42pm On Aug 21, 2011
If Gej could not control Sanusi's act on Islamic banking I don't know how he expects to control his cooperation with Iweala.
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Warns Ministers To Cooperate With Okonjo-iweala Or Get Sacked by NegroNtns(m): 3:59pm On Aug 21, 2011
Why would the President of a democracy (??)invoke the riot act to sanction different view and ideology in ministerial cadres of his government?
PoliticsRe: Seizure Of 130 Houses Sparks Protest In Lagos by NegroNtns(m): 7:55am On Aug 21, 2011
Tobi_Dad,

Contrast what you just posted with what I earlier said about land ownership in Yorubaland and you will understand why land ownership in West is the way you said it is.
Foreign AffairsRe: Pakistani Caught Violating A 13 Yr Old Nigerian Girl In Mecca by NegroNtns(m): 5:31pm On Aug 20, 2011
Who is surprised at child labor in Saudi? Do not be surprised, we have child labor in Nigeria.
There is no where in the world that child labor is not practiced, including America. The regulation is targeted at a demography base that the mainstream intend to remain politically and economically dis-enfranchised.

Beaf, if he is lucky he will just be stoned to death! Depending on his marital status he might first get the 100 lashes for adultery.
PoliticsRe: Seizure Of 130 Houses Sparks Protest In Lagos by NegroNtns(m): 4:46pm On Aug 20, 2011
You can get a land anywhere you want in this country so long as you get a proper C-OF-O. not one single omonile go fit touch a flower leaf on your government assigned property lest you forget that every single square meter of land in this country is by default owned by the FG. If they can claim billion dollar oil wells in the Niger-Delta and choice land at the heart of the country for the FCT which area father or boy go fit touch them. get documentation and a shotgun and you are ok.
Toby Dad,

Another misconception! You are duped into thinking FG owns land. Now you will go buy a 50acre land on that belief and then 30yrs from now when you are asked to vacate you will start blaming Yorubas.

Listen, study land ownership in Yorubaland and get off your Federal BS about land ownership. As long you depend on FG to back your foolish land acquisition dream you will repeatedly be a looser on your investment. Learn and stop repeating errors, instead of telling people there is a default law that guarantees their ownership.
PoliticsRe: Tension Mounts In Abuja Over Demolition Of 172 Houses Belonging To Igbo Bizmen by NegroNtns(m): 3:22pm On Aug 20, 2011
May I remind you that demographic representation will not necessarily get you into elected office in Yorubaland. You can be 60% of Lagos if you want, does not mean you automatically qualiffy to rule the state.

The ruling group is the voice of the mainstream of any society and not the demography. The voice of Lagos is Yoruba; it has always been and will continue to be.

I know some of you will come back with the defense script of how Bini is the ruling class in Lagos. The Bini bloodline was ended long ago, so while traditionally the throne is owned by Bini, politically and by heritage Bini's dynasty ended. But unlike Bini which seeks glory by defaming and challenging Ife's athority, we in Lagos don't push the issue out of respect considering that Bini is Yoruba and the whole drama is an internal one.
PoliticsRe: Tension Mounts In Abuja Over Demolition Of 172 Houses Belonging To Igbo Bizmen by NegroNtns(m): 12:08pm On Aug 20, 2011
I think this "genocide" should be reported to UN and Human Rights for Africa.

Well, after Massob lead a road protest with placard carrying youths.
PoliticsRe: "jonathan’s Phone Call To Obasanjo And Babangida Over “fool.” Saga by NegroNtns(m): 11:55am On Aug 20, 2011
Luluosa C'mon!!!
PoliticsRe: Seizure Of 130 Houses Sparks Protest In Lagos by NegroNtns(m): 7:55am On Aug 20, 2011
Flipping the land is good but eventually someone will end up building on it.

I sympathise with their situation here and hope they will find a comforting solution. Its lessons learnt!
PoliticsRe: Seizure Of 130 Houses Sparks Protest In Lagos by NegroNtns(m): 9:56pm On Aug 19, 2011
For Iwuchukwu to be the chairman of this community association it would appear that this is a community largely of Igbos and possibly their houses are affected in this tussle.

I have said many times that land use act in Yorubaland is different from most other places in the country. The constitution will not defend you when issues like this come up. Harsh as it sounds I'm suspecting that the person that sold the land 30yrs ago may have done so as a developer and not as a landowner.

The landowner is the last holder of rights on any land on Yorubasoil, his/her consent carries the day.

Why are Ibos loosing homes in Abuja and Lagos, the two capitals?

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