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Can't it be said that science is a framework for the expression of the human spirit? If so, science would be seen as evolving till the best guess reaches perfection. However I feel that with time it has been placed ahead on the human spirit and as a result has been driven further away from perfection at the beginning.

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Science is the empirical study of physical patterns or behaviors.

In order for scientific study to be valid, a set of tests and experiments must be run over time on an object and the result are collated as data which can now be reported using mathematical or statistical reference graphs to depict measurements and scalability.

The spirit on the other hand is receptive to intuition and inspiration, it receives its knowledge from the pool of wisdom in the cosmic bank.

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amor4ce:
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Binary is a scientific term and denotes something discrete and interchangeable in its essence.

For instance in an event of 1 0 0 1, the zeros and ones are interchangeable in state given an elapsed time - its dynamic. 

Duality in nature does not change from its designated state - its fixed in its nature.


Doesn't the term BINARY infer that the object of reference cannot simultaneously exist in both states but has to be either one or the other, as in
"Matthew 6:24: No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."

In my opinion, duality points to dual existence of which I doubt the possibility.

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At a given moment time "x", a 1 and 0 are just that.

In another given moment, time "y", the 1 and the 0 could reverse states and become 0 and 1, or remain same and unchanged. Therefore the outcome of their states is unpredictable.

A dual natured object does not change state. A perfect example is humans, we are dual natured. Our primodial code is 2.
We do not change state ane become 1 like God or three like jinns.

The oneness of faith expected in that scriptural code has to do with outward response and not the essence of being.

The essence of human being is dual but our worship and faith is aimed at the One Being above us.


Is Trinity mentioned in Ifa corpus? Again, I'm not versed enough in the context of Ifa to give a tenable response.


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Any resident that knew what Lagos used to be like and disparages Fashola for cleaning up Oshodi or Yaba must not be a son of the soil.

If you don't like what the governor is doing to restore sanity to the state then apparently you are not a contributor to the "Keep Lagos clean" policy and so your ar/se need to pack up and leave for somewhere else where the governor and the people tolerate filth

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amor4ce:
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There is without doubt a substitute race of people in North Africa, some mixed and some of pure caucasian roots.


This is what I've found out about the Amorites.
The Egyptologist Flinders Petrie and Assyriologist Archibald Henry Sayce analysed Egyptian illustrations of what they identified as Amorites (Amurru) depicted as "white skinned, blue eyed, fair haired". According to Sayce (1889):
“   “The Amorites,  were a tall, handsome people, with white skins, blue eyes and reddish hair, all the characteristics, in fact, of the white race.”   ”
Sayce further discovered a painting in a tomb (No. 34) at Thebes, belonging to the Eighteenth Dynasty which illustrates an Amorite chief with "white skin and red-brown hair".
Henry George Tomkins (1897) an Exeter clergyman and member of the Royal Archaeological Institute also wrote the Amorites were blue eyed and fair haired. Easton's Bible Dictionary also contains an entry stating the Amorites are "represented on the Egyptian monuments with fair skins, light hair, blue eyes, aquiline noses, and pointed beards." The Encyclopædia Britannica, 13th ed., vol. 1, 1929, also contained a physical description of the Amorites from Egyptian illustrations:
“   “Egyptian illustrations of the New Kingdom show the Palestinian Amorites to have been a race much more like the Northern Europeans than the Semites; long-headed, with blue eyes, straight noses and thin lips.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorite

I wonder if they are Caucasians and are the ones described thus
Genesis 15:16: But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites [is] not yet full.

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The study and understanding of human race and the reporting and education on the subject is incomplete. So far it has been biased and one-sided to portray the Caucasian features as a natural ruling class and symbol of aesthetics.

Just as we have Egyptologists and Assyriologists, we need "Yorubologists" to examine and unlock the far long suppressed mystery and history of the Yorubas. It cannot be done using Caucasian templates built on the philosophical understanding of their socio-cultural beliefs. A Yoruba antiquity must be examined and reported based on the Yoruba philosophy and socio-cultural beliefs. If this can be done we will have conclusion on where the Yoruba belong. Not only that, it will also disprove this Amorite (Amurru) myth.

I'd like to point out that we must becareful in the way we absorb European education, we need to apply some discrimination when investigating these claims.

For example: Thebes is an adulteration of the name of the old capital of Upper Egypt, "Djebe".

The European imperials followed the example of the Romans in nomenclature. They installed their language as the lingua franca everywhere they conquered and forced people to speak Latin (in case of Romans) and English/French/Portuguese/Spanish (in the case of the imperial powers) in substitute for the indigene language.  

When tongues are changed, communication changes, literature changes, social formalities change, government change, the total philosophical outlook change and in successive generations the indigeneity of the people is slowly eroded, replaced by the prevailing protocols making the people find it much easier to identify with the ruling class and the mainstream voice in order to fit in and survive. Increasingly, their future generations become so far removed from their natural customs that they begin to act, behave, reason and picture themselves other than what they truly are.

Every literature written by the white man to narrate Egyptian history uses "Thebes" to describe "Djebe".

African scholars in repeating and recycling the history never bother to refute and correct the error. So it's no shock when white man begin to tell us that Thebes belonged to him. Hopefully African scholars will be stupid enough to repeat and recycle the white  ownership claim.

Another error is in that of "Nefertiti", who they have totally claimed as "Cleopatra", and deitified as a Roman godess. Nefertiti is a symbol of beauty, balance, romance and essence.  This claim of her as Caucasian is further supported by African scholars.
Her real name is Neferu Tintin, Nubian origin and a Djebian.

Not to make this a skin complexion issue, there are light skinned just as much dark skinned people in Yoruba nation but particularly there are two sets who seem to have a high proportion of light skinned people and these are

1. The Ekiti/Ijesha/Ondo people

2. Awori people.

I firmly believe the Amorites are the Aworis, not solely because of skin complexion but if an argument could be tendered on that account then they are a qualified contender.

When I was little I went with my grandmother to visit her aging mother in Ilashe, a rural Awori town in Lagos State. Ilashe is a beach town past Kirikiri and we went on a ferry, first to Ilado to see and greet some of her cousins before we went to Ilashe.

While they were in discussion, a cousin and I left to set traps and catch crabs on the sandy beach. We were there for hours playing with other children. When we arrived back in town, an underground crypt had been opened. My grandma's brother was there discussing with my grandma on some burial rites. I later learnt that their mother wanted to be buried with her parents - their remains for three ancestral generations laid in that crypt.

When in later years I went back to visit she had indeed been buried in the crypt as she willed. Then I started asking questions. The elders did not know why they did some of the things they did other than to say its the way of the ancestors.

To have a crypt in a coastal town is truly amazing. First, the waterbed is very high and near the surface and so the crypt must be reinforced in certain materials that are waterproof and retardant. Second, to know that the same crypt had withstood the elements and beein in use for over 100yrs is also mind boggling. Not to add that it was indoors, underneath a false floor in the hallway into the thatched roof compound of houses and rooms. The crypt was walled in clay and plaster. It had to have been hardened with some kiln-type high-temperature heat to cure and preserve its strength that long.

Anyway, the corpses are also aligned with the sun. These are burial rituals that mirror Afro-Asiatic roots.

Here is another ponder : "Ilado"; "Ilashe"; "Ilasa"; "Ilaje"; "Ilaro"; "Ilogbo"; "Ilorin"; ". . . . .what is the significance of "Ilx" in the usage?

There are so many things to unlock, we need a new scholarship in Yorubologist to study and give us meaning. This will open a new avenue by which we can reincarnate our philosophical roots. Per chance, we might find that we can drop the use of foreign tongue and culture and thus be truly independent to build a consciousness that is at par with first world power.

I appreciate your input. I cannot agree or dispute this account because I stay away from scientifical account to tell me where my ancestors were from or have been. Science is younger and latent, I prefer my reliance on the human spirit to tell its own journey. For this reason my approach is always from the historical/scriptural angle.

However, I am sure other readers are also interested in the scientific explanation and will find knowleddge based on the addition.

The dating of skeletal remains is an approximate based on a testing standard or benchmark and is far from absolute or factual but is always "on a best guess".

There is no best guess in saying that Yoruba is proto-Semitic; the cottage industry of batik and tie dye came from the Canaans, the language is ancient Hebrew, the rituals are the same, the artifacts are rooted in the region, . . . . So a science of best guess cannot disprove that as false.

First, good news and congrats to Ibos, one of your daughters is 87th most powerful woman in the world.

Second, good news and congrats to Nigeria.

Texas,

I know the two are isolated instances, so is the Eba killer you posted. All three has a theme and that was the point.

First, an error correction! When on the issue of crossed-blessings for the children of Joseph by Jacob (Isreal), I believe I said Manasseh and Simeon. That would be wrong.

Your question on Ephraim sparked my recollection.

Joseph had two children and they were Manasseh (elder) and Ephraim (younger), but their seniority were switched in blessings.


Anyway, on the 8th and 16th order of divination, no they are not flaws or "holes" as you implied.

In an orchestra, you can compose and produce in the 8th or 16th harmonics and each will be beautiful.

Ifa was with our ancestors and they migrated with it. It was not a discovery along the way.

On the objects of offerings, Ifa is universal. So that if you are in Yorubaland where we have snails, palm oil and yam, then you make offerings with these. If you are Cuba where there is no snail, palm oil or yam, then you make offering with substitutes.

Nature is simple, and so is life, when lived in accordance to the codes of the cosmic deities. However mankind loves to create additional regulations and laws and codes that by-passes a simplistic way of life and thus in the confines of his artificial rules everybody's life is made difficult and terrifying.

Ifa is very liberal and accomodating, not confining or narrow. If there's no snail, palm oil and yam, the Priest can divine for what substitutes within the local area will appply.


On the topic of Ibadan being Ephraim, I am not sure. I can't make a direct link between Ibadan and Ephraim based on the "S"; "Sh" pronounciation alone but there ample indirect links.

Remember also that there is no people called Ibadan; because Ibadan is a location, but there are Oyos and you might want to search through the archives using that as a key.

There are good links between Oyo and Babylonia than is between Oyo and Ephraim.

Now let me say that Ephraim was sacked from the land of Canaan and is reputed to have migrated to Persia. The Persian Jews are said to be some remnants of the Ephraimite tribe. There is an Ibadan in Persia.

Also, where did the Yoruba term "alanu Samaria" come from? What is its origin?

Moses did not make it to the promised land with the Children of Israel. When they arrived there the conquest was led by Joshua. After Joshua sacked the Canaanites their land was distributed amongst the tribes. Samaria was the land given to the Ephraim tribe.


Amorphous, you can do some research on this topic and share what you find.

Sometime a year or two ago, WHO sent a global notice warning against the consumption of chicken (due to avian flu).

Nigerians ignored the warning and dug up chickens buried in pits to take home for cooking.

How many people were killed from that?

To whoever has contact with Ngozi, please tell her she is patching the problem. She promised a fix, not a patch.

Everybody has a bond to something they support. Salami is not forbidden from any private bond or membership in A C N or any party he chooses.

So what really are you trying to insinuate with your provocative question?

Ifa, like scriptures, can be likened to a repository or database in which is contained the rules by which the affairs of mankind is ordered.


I don't know what "sand scooping" is but the Moses reference was where he left footprints in the sand and his brother collected and preserved the imprint left in the sand.

Ifa is a faith. It is a divine guidance for

1. The ASE (authority) of the Supreme Being.

2. Inter-exchange between humans.

3. Relational knowledge of the environment and all organic life,

4. The relational axis of humans within the cosmos.

5. The knowledge and understanding of cosmic deities and their purpose.

Ifa is the first constitutional order that gives man liberty and freedom and the will to self-determination.

In the creation of Adam in Genesis, he was made male and female and then GOD felt he needed a mate and so brought all the animals for him to name them, which he did.

It would seem that was a mental exercise, a cognitive recall of something learned or thought out. But no it wasn't. The naming was inspired, an act of involuntary origin emanating itself from within the spirit. After he finished naming the animals his cognitive abilities and mental awareness or senses were now awakened to the environment. So that when subsequent to that event GOD presented to him Eve, he instantly reacted with glee and joy because he was awakened to physical relativity and their meanings.

Similarly in Ifa, most of the verses are coded in allegories involving animal scenarios. They are lessons for life. By understanding the animal stories we appreciate living.

Tesky,

Salami is not investigated for theft.

Jarus,

Happy Birthday to you bro!

Did Seun give you a b/day bonus? Lol.

Teskyg,

How so?

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The One:
This is one issueon which I'm having a running battle with Lagos State govt. Let me give 2 instances

1) My wife though a prefessional in her own right does not work because she has to take care of our little children. However, I buy our property in both our names (at least I shouldn't cheat the woman now?). When it comes to getting the gov. consent, they insist she pays tax and I explain that she doesn't work to no avail. I'm actually very angry because I personally pay tax worth more than most people's entire salary.

2) I'm in the process of setting up a business for my wife. To obtain approval from the govt the same tax thing came up. I believe since I'm the one spending the money, my tax info shld suffice. I believe govt is just lazy for their own gain, because I don't think it takes much to verify that we are actually married.

What this policy does is to short-change women. Men who are willing to buy things jointly with their non-working wives.

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I've asked the OP to clarify somethings which are yet to be cleared and your situation falls in same line so I'm going to state the source of confusion and explain what you are faced with.

First of all there is a difference between "filing" or "submiting" a tax return and "paying" tax.

The filing is a set of questions that attempt to assess or determine if you earned income and whther or not it is taxable and what you are liable to pay if any.

So by asking your unemployed wife to file a tax does not necessarily mean she will pay tax.

Make sure you understand the tax codes and the status.

For instance, if you give your wife certain housekeeping allowance every month, make sure you do not report it as income. If you do it will be assessed for tax liability and depending on the amount could be taxed. This would mean you are taxed twice - through your paycheck and through your discretionary spending.

Beaf,

Has Justice Ayo Salami been indicted or found guilty of the charges against him?

The PCA is a political appointment, not a career one and the President has the authority to suspend or fire him; but on reasonable grounds.

Based on recommendations, the President can remove the President of the Court of Appeals.

The process for his removal is in order. What is problematic is the flagrant violation of the technical procedures for the removal to be effected, example the quorum that passed the recommendation.

Its just a proposal asking for an apology, doesn't mean there will be one.

If there's one I don't see Britain supporting the bogus claims made by Ibos with the numbers and account of the events.

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pleep:
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Thats true, lets hope the same dose not happen to sub saharan Africa 


Amen!

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On one part Afrians want to tell the rest of the world that Africa and its ancient civilizations belong to the dark skinned but yet he is scared of letting go his Western philosophy which teaches him otherwise and instructs that Africa south of the Sahara is the home of the dark skinned and they were found in paganism until the white man's rescue arrived, with that of Arabs to teach them there is a God.

Its either we will reincarnate our own philosophy and live by them to reinvent and reclaim our lands or we will continue to follow foreing philosophies and remain enslaved in foreign ideologies that are counter to our nature and way of life.

What sort of tax code we adopt will deternine the tax liability.

If we go by our traditional tax code, liability is only on wealth and is assessed by asset holding. In this instance, an unemployed person should not be taxed.

If we go by progressive tax, which is what most countries use, this method is means-test (affordability) based. There is a baseline. Above the base line you pay tax is direct proportiin to your income band.

@OP, clarify what you mean by forced by Lagos State to pay tax.

Also, clarify what you mean by unemployed.

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Do you think there's a possibility that the present occupants of Libya and Morocco are not the real descendants of Put?
Do you have any idea for the change of name of Mizraim to Egypt and whether that could have applied to other ancient peoples who seem to have "disappeared"?

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There is without doubt a substitute race of people in North Africa, some mixed and some of pure caucasian roots.

The eviction of Canaanites from their land became a model used and perfected over time by ambitious races to invade and totally change a people and their land for new occupants.

I don't know why Mizraim was changed to Egypt (aegypt) or Havillah became Yemen or Massina became Mali.

The colonization and occupation of lands is a constant environmental phenomenon and can be attributed to nature's intent for diversity.