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olabowale:You can call the Bible what you like-a hadith or whatever, but the fact remains that we christians can never deny part of a Bible simply because it failed to butress our point in a particular argument, because the words contained therein are sacred. I also told you at a point in another post that we Christians dont consider the Bible in bits, it flows. While your hadiths proved that Aisha was a baby at that time of marriage, you are finding it hard to accept. Pity. olabowale:This has no bearing on the abrogations in the koran. I cant see how they relate at all. |
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I dont giv a damn. All man dey look for bread |
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Prophet Muhammad errs not What about the famed satanic verses? Bible is incontestanbly interpolated; full with absurdities, contradictions, confusions, etc. Yet, that does not render it wholly erroneous for there are "true" sayings of Jesus Yet you have not been able to produce the original bible you people claim is in mecca ![]() |
@Kola_oyole, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things Yes, because of THE HOLY TRINITY dude, check my earlier post on that. Now, you tell me the origin of the satanic verses in the koran |
[size=14pt]@Babs[/size], [size=14pt]After defending my own, can you tell me more about the satanic verses in the koran?[/size] |
Can you do the 3 days and three nights calculation for me? [b]The solution is simple when we learn that according to Jewish custom any part of a day, however small, is included as part of a full day. "Since the Jews reckoned part of a day as a full day, the 'three days and three nights' could permit a Friday crucifixion." This phenomena is exemplified in scripture in the book of Esther. "Go, assemble all the Jews who are found in Susa, and fast for me; do not eat or drink for three days, night or day. I and my maidens also will fast in the same way," (Esther 4:16 ). Then, in Esther 5:1 it says, "Now it came about on the third day that Esther put on her royal robes and stood in the inner court of the king’s palace in front of the king’s rooms, and the king was sitting on his royal throne in the throne room, opposite the entrance to the palace." We can see that even though the three days and nights had not been completed, Esther went in to see the King on the third day even though she said to fast for three days and nights. We see that "on the third day" is equivalent to "after three days." Additionally, Mark 8:31 says, "And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again." Yet, 1 Cor. 15:4 says, "and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures." Also, Luke 24:5-7, "and as the women were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground, the men said to them, 'Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen. Remember how He spoke to you while He was still in Galilee, saying that the Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.'" Here we can see that "after three days" is equivalent to mean "on the third day." Therefore, we can see that because of the Jewish usage of counting any part of a day as the whole of the day, the term "three days and nights" is idiomatic and not literal.[/b] |
@Abuzola, [size=14pt]Jesus came to FULFILL the scriptures, NOT TO QUOTE scriptures[/size] |
Can you do the 3 days and three nights calculation for me? [b]In Old Testament the expression “one day and one night” was an idiom used often by the Jews for a day, even when it was applied to only a part of a day. The Jewish reference to this period as three days and three nights is strictly in accordance with the Jewish mode of reckoning. Evening and morning, or night and day, is the Hebrew phrase for a natural day. It was a maxim among the Jews in computing time, that a part of a day was to be received or computed as the whole. Christ was dead at three o’clock on Friday, they had before six o’clock, three hours to bury Him. After going through the red tape with the Romans it took less than an hour. The Jewish reckoning of time is found in the Jewish Talmud and the Babylonian Jerusalem Talmud (the commentaries of the Jews), said any part, an “onan”, any part of the day is considered a full day. On Friday before six o'clock by Jewish reckoning, any minute was considered one day and one night. From Friday night at six o'clock to Saturday at six o'clock, was another day and another night. From Saturday night to Sunday was a third day. Thus, Jesus was in the grave part of Friday (a whole “natural day”), through all of Saturday (the second day), and from Saturday at sunset a part of Sunday (the third day). Thus, it is likely that the part of the day (Friday) on which Jesus was crucified, the entire day He was in the grave (Saturday), and the part of the day on which He rose again (Sunday), estimated as entire days. The concept of three days would be an idiom, not necessarily meaning 3 full 24- hour periods. Genesis 42:17 shows us this idiomatic usage was common in their culture. Joseph had his brothers imprisoned for three days; in v.18, he speaks to them and releases them, on the third day. I Samuel 30:12, 13: “For he had not eaten bread or drunk water for three days and three nights,” and in the next verse, “My master left me behind… three days ago.” There are other instances in the Bible in which part of a day is viewed as constituting a whole. For example, the same quantity of time referred to in the Gospel accounts of Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection as three days and three nights, which in reality was only one whole day, a part of two others, and two whole nights, is termed three days and three nights in the book of Esther. Compare Esther 4:16 (“Go , neither eat nor drink three days, night or day . . . and so will I go in unto the king”), with Esther 5:1 (“On the third day Esther put on her royal robes and stood in the inner court of the palace, in front of the king's hall”) this is also found in 2 Chr.10:5, 12; Gen. 42:17-18; 1 Kings 20:29; Luke 2:21. The Jews were aware of Jesus' prophecy. Matt. 27:63. The fact that the Jews asked that a command be given that the sepulcher be made secure “until the third day” showed that when the Jews spoke of “three days,” Matt. 27:64, they did not of necessity mean three “whole (24) days,” but parts of three days, as was the case of Jesus' lying dead in the grave. [/b] |
I asked why didnt he wake up the dead when his disciple told him about a dead person but rather told them that they should allow the dead to bury their dead? Now you are really getting nuts. You mean because Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, he should have gone ahead to raise all dead people when he was on earth? ![]() Let me tell you that mo never raised a dead man to life ![]() According to you, Jesus should continue raising dead people? Dont worry, He will do that when He comes to judge the world. ![]() If Jesus could solely forgive sin without God's intervention, why did he say in John 8:28 that "I do nothing of myself"? That is part of what we have been saying all along, THE HOLY TRINITY, dude |
He was taken from prison and from judgement, and who shall declare his generation? For he was cut off out of the living [b]The verse you quoted above is Isaiah 53:8, it finds its fulfillment in Matthew 27: "Now Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor questioned Him, saying, "Are You the King of the Jews?" And Jesus said to him, "It is as you say." And while He was being accused by the chief priests and elders, He did not answer. Then Pilate said to Him, "Do You not hear how many things they testify against You?" "But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowds to ask for Barabbas and to put Jesus to death. But the governor said to them, "Which of the two do you want me to release for you?" And they said, "Barabbas." PIlate said to them, "Then what shall I do with Jesus who is called Christ?" They all said, "Crucify Him!" An he said, "Why, what evil has He done?" But they kept shouting all the more, saying, "crucify Him!" "When Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but rather that a riot was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd, saying, "I am innocent of this Man's blood; see to that yourselves." And all the people said, "His blood shall be on us and on our children!" Then he released Barabbas for them; but after having Jesus scourged, he handed Him over to be crucified." (Matthew 27:11-13, 20-26)[/b] Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong This verse is Isaiah 53:12. Beyond doubt, Isaiah 52:12-53:13 refers to Messiah Jesus. He is the one highly exalted before whom kings shut their mouths. Messiah is the shoot who sprung up from the fallen Davidic dynasty. He became the King of Kings. He provided the ultimate atonement. |
You people tend to deny some of your hadiths when it is convenient for you and quote some when it is convenient to do so. Why deny your holy writings? Olabowale is more guilty of this. You also claim your koran is without error, but when I posted the numerous errors in the koran, your mods will keep on deleting them. So much for your claims ![]() |
olabowale:Is it not islam with the promise of 72 virgins that made him so? |
Ndipe:Nigerians don't like patronizing professionals. They prefer cheap remedies ![]() |
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Abuzola:[size=14pt]Are you afraid to post the koranic verse here? [/size] |
Abuzola:[size=14pt]I know in your warped view of paradise, they will be shagging 72 virgins there Dont weep when you discover them crying in hell. Is that not where mohammed told you that you are all going?mohammed was mocked because he was a fake prophet with the satanic verses. ![]() What brings politicians to a religious argument? [/size] |
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