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PropertiesRe: Lagos Lawmakers Disagree Over Tenancy Bill by Nezan(m): 10:57am On Jul 15, 2009
I know many of them are Landlords grin
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Oracle Or Java by Nezan(m): 10:53am On Jul 15, 2009
huh huh
IslamRe: The Death Of Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h): Question And Answer by Nezan(m): 10:52am On Jul 15, 2009
Abuzola:
You are a confused being, how does Elijah concern an atheist ? Huh, anyway the answer to your question is above. ¿ Fahimt
This is balderdash, the discussion in the other thread is more interesting.
EducationRe: Is Homework A Waste Of Time For Primary School Children? by Nezan(m): 9:56am On Jul 15, 2009
cool cool
IslamRe: Sir Olabowale Lets Discuss Aisha's Age by Nezan(m): 2:57pm On Jul 14, 2009
Abuzola:
Noetic why making jest, if i start another rampage in your section you will be accusing me of being a trouble maker, take time man
@Abuzola,

No need to start another jihad, your point was well understood, I mean the six-year old girl stuff grin
IslamRe: The Death Of Prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h): Question And Answer by Nezan(m): 2:46pm On Jul 14, 2009
@Abuzola,

Na wa for you-o, we are still discussing on a similar thread you opened, only for you to abandon it and come up with this? You be funny fellow-o grin grin
IslamRe: The Death Of The Prophet: Coming Soon by Nezan(m): 2:27pm On Jul 14, 2009
I did not say that the poison played no role. I simply said no one can accept it to be the only reason for his death.

That was what we were saying all along, [size=14pt]THE POISON CONTRIBUTED TO HIS DEATH=THE POISON KILLED HIM[/size]

And when you talk about Jesus, please dont forget that he did not forgive Judas Iscariot who he made to betray him! He did not for give the Romans who adjudged him. He did not show mercy to the suffering thief who was on the left side of him on the cross. He Jesus cursed the Jes first and them blessed them by forgiving them? Which one overrides the other; his earlier curses which he called them adulterous generations, vipers, etc, or the mercy you said he showed later? Make up your mind man.

Haba Alhaji, dey talk de lie small small na. Was he the one that ordered for Judas to be killed? Did he retaliated by killing anybody? haba mallam, abi na alhaji? grin
EducationRe: Is Homework A Waste Of Time For Primary School Children? by Nezan(m): 2:01pm On Jul 14, 2009
nwajohn:
in support of chaircover and[b] chyket [/b] Its not a waste of time.
It is becoming increasingly difficult to have time going through children's workbooks. The veracity of this statement is therefore doubted.
PoliticsRe: Why Is The Federal Govt Killing Tinapa? by Nezan(m): 1:36pm On Jul 14, 2009
A-town:
Is this a typo or is it simply outdated news? The date on the copied text says "June 6, 2008.
huh
PoliticsRe: Call For Establishment Of Nigerian Marine Force by Nezan(m): 1:26pm On Jul 14, 2009
I support.
IslamRe: The Message Of The Prophets--mohammad, Jesus, The Rest. by Nezan(m): 1:25pm On Jul 14, 2009
[size=14pt]@Muhsin[/size]

Thanks a lot for your long reply. I wish it had made meaning. . .I would have got that meaning.

[size=14pt]How can it make any meaning to you when it is not a  muslim propaganda grin grin[/size]

Without saying much, I would really like to have your answer on a very simple question, i.e. God clearly made it known to us that he's not an author of confusion. And I add neither contradictions nor absurdities. If your assertion is to be believed then it means, evidently and obviously, that God creates palpable confusion in your bible.

[size=14pt]Surely God not a God of confusion, that is why he can never be the one telling mo he had three daughters only to come and abrogate it later grin grin [/size]

To shame more light; my meaning there is; how can we reconcile your words--God is plural, God is three, etc with many other verses where God/Jesus says the God is One; I am alone and there is no any other beside me; worship me alone; the father is greater than I; to mention but a few.

[size=14pt]The mystery of Trinity is a divine mystery. Three existing in complete unity. May be mo wanted to copy it but did not know about the mystery, that was why he alluded three daughters to allah only to come and abrogate it grin grin[/size]
IslamRe: The Message Of The Prophets--mohammad, Jesus, The Rest. by Nezan(m): 12:29pm On Jul 14, 2009
babs787:
@Nezan

How body bros?

Kindly profer me the link sir

Hold it dude. You are one of those campaining for TRINITY and would be happy you are able to satisfy my curiosity whch would come in form of questions at the end of your write up here.

Lest I forget, could you show me where Jesus was conscious of his deity and made the awareness known?


Oga, who do you think you are deceiving here? Common man, dont lift out of context for me please. You intelligently left out part of the verses where JESUS said that GOD IS greater than him and if that should be the case, why are you still equating Jesus to God?
This is a muslim forum, dont tell me you didnt see the thread on mo's poisoning grin

You are the one interpreting out of context. Can you show me a verse in the koran where mo even mentioned that every one who has seen him has seen the Father? Jesus was comfortable making this statement because he was one with the Father. No prophet ever made this claim. tongue

babs787:
Dude, in the book of Isaiah, we read that God is not author of confusion and also Peter said that there is no secret interpretation of the bible. If you you agree to the statement above, then you should not just bring verse ut of context or giving it wrong interpretation because it would not do you any good.

Now to the verse you gave your own interpretation, Jesus did not infer that you have seen God when you see him. He was trying to tell you that he was His ambassador and anything he says or does is wat his creator asked him to and he even made than known when he said that he was sent and could not do anything by himself and that as he hear, he judges for he did not come to do his will but that of the oe that sent him.

Jesus was telling us that he represented God through the message he brought from him and anybody that accept him, accept God. If you believe in Jesus, it means you have believe in God.
God is not the author of confusion, that is why I don't believe he was the one giving mo those messages. Or else how can he say he has three daughters only to come and abrogate the same (i.e. those satanic verses) tongue tongue

Dont twist that verse, please. Jesus specifically said anybody who has seen him has seen the Father. Again I repeat, who among the prophets ever made that assertion? Did mo ever said anybody who saw him saw God? NEVER, because Jesus is one with God.

babs787:
Oga, RFLMAO. Are you also aware of another verse where Jesus said that the disciples are in him and that they might be one (I did not want to give you the verse because you already know it)?


Perfectly correct. He represented GOD on earth, he was sent by God and preached his message and anybody that accepted him, did that to the creator that sent hhim and that applies to all prophets. Trusting and believing in prophets is the same as beliving and trsuting in God that sent them.

If someone sends you a message to deliver and you did that perfectly and they believed you, is it not the same as believing and trusting the person that sent you because you did that on his behalf as well.
Yes, he prayed for the disciples together with us believers to be one so that he will present us as his bride without sin before the Father on judgement day. That does not mean we are gods, are we? tongue

Good you said he represented God while on earth. It is quite true because he was forgiving people's sins while he was here. Which of the older prophets claimed to forgive sins? Did mo claim that? Jesus did all this because 'God came to dwelt with us'.

babs787:
Sir, if you are saying he is God just because he called God his father, what of the verse where he said that blessed are the peace makers for they shall be called sons of God?

Was he the only one that called God 'father"? Why are you attaching different meaning to his own calling God, 'father'?
Did mo ever called God father? Jesus bought us with his blood, in essence, presenting us to the Father as sons. We claim to be God's children because Jesus bought us with his blood for 'there is no way to God, except through Jesus'.
RomanceRe: WOULD A NURSE BE A GOOD HOUSEWIFE? by Nezan(m): 11:55am On Jul 14, 2009
I wan run-o shocked shocked
PoliticsRe: Henry Okah Released by Nezan(m): 11:44am On Jul 14, 2009
Okah's release=bombing in Lagos
RomanceRe: Are Women Intimidated By Attractive Men? by Nezan(m): 11:26am On Jul 14, 2009
shocked
IslamRe: The Death Of The Prophet: Coming Soon by Nezan(m): 11:25am On Jul 14, 2009
@Tudor,
My problem here is any time you make points that cannot be defended, your post is deleted. Why?

@Olabowale,
In the first instance, you were saying that they should give you evidence that Mo died from the poison a woman gave her. I provided that right from your hadiths, then you changed gear claiming it as a miracle. But as Tudor pointed out, we all know the effect of poison can be gradual, as was in Mo's case because the hadiths mentioned that since he took that poison, he was not the same till he died from effects of the poison-a prophet who failed to realise he was poisoined grin

Consider what Jesus did to the Jews That crucified him? he forgave them and prayed for them lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

What did Mo do? he ordered for the woman to be killed shocked shocked

So much for a religion of peace grin grin
PoliticsRe: Councillors Exchange Blows Over Impeachment Move ! by Nezan(m): 11:13am On Jul 14, 2009
Politicians and power/money. It all comes down to the money shocked
FashionRe: Why Is Society So Obsessed With Looks? by Nezan(m): 10:55am On Jul 14, 2009
Libra38:
Ask him again
grin
PoliticsRe: Vote Wole Soyinka's Face For 5000 Naira Note Currency ! by Nezan(m): 10:46am On Jul 14, 2009
Enomen:
May we never get there.
Great talent you knw, but stay away from CBN and EFCC else u end up in jail.
if u cn make 5k and 1k notes then u can fake any currency.
grin grin
EducationRe: 2009 MPCE Exam: What Were Your Experiences by Nezan(m): 10:41am On Jul 14, 2009
Heard they want to combine MPCE wif UME??
PoliticsRe: Uproar As Senate Cuts Education, Health Budgets To Fund N25 Billion Abuja Road by Nezan(m): 10:34am On Jul 14, 2009
Agbero1:
shocked
CRAZINESS!!!!!

THIS GOVERNMENT IS INDEED A FAILURE. angry

AM OFF TO AMERICAN EMBASY cheesy
For assylum abi? grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: MEND Attacks Lagos by Nezan(m): 10:22am On Jul 14, 2009
sir t:
[size=28pt]I salute the courage of the MEND for the struggle to free themselves from the politics of "national cake sharing" at the expense of the masses[/size]. But my reservation is the effects of this attack on the commom man. I think [size=28pt]MEND and other freedom fighter groups should come together[/size] and have discussion on how to foster a common goal of freedom.If anything to go by, I think the target should be the sit of power and not any area.
I dont think MEND are doing anything more than seeking to have they share of the national cake via terrorism. I dont think they are true freedom fighters angry
PoliticsRe: Obama In Nigeria, Oh Sorry, Ghana! by Nezan(m): 10:00am On Jul 14, 2009
skyy04:
What amazes me is that the GIANT Nigeria is not listed among the countries tourist could visit, even Engineers and other professional are discouraged. To the westeners visit to Nigeria is a big risk which wort to be celebrated if one return unarmed.

As a Nigerian, I feel there's no law, it's a country where there is no justice etc Do we expect OBAMA to be support of such country?

I can't see a way out until we charge our perception in that country
True
FamilyRe: Find Condom In Your Husband’s Pocket: What Will You Do? by Nezan(m): 9:48am On Jul 14, 2009
becoomrich:
I have never commited adultery before, and i would never. It is the way your mind works. It is what every you set your mind on. If your mind is not on it, you would not do it.

The bible says marriage is honourable.
Hebrews 13 : 4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Not every man want to commit adultery. It as to do it the mine set. Why would you want to destroy your future or takes risk that would kill you just because of less than 30 minutes of funny.

It takes less than 1 minute to have AIDS. you may be the next victim and you would have AIDS.

https://www.economiccrisisblog.com/poverty/aids.jpg
[size=28pt]SCARY[/size]
Christianity EtcRe: Witches And Wizards Let's Meet Here by Nezan(m): 9:39am On Jul 14, 2009
k-aina:
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TO ALL THE CERTIFIED -------  IN THE HOUSE,
IMPOSTORS PLS STEER CLEAR,  lest u be struck down by the fury of the gods
A little Orin Ifa (prayer) before tonights activity:
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"  shocked shocked Ifa jinginjingin  shocked shocked :-:-:-
 shocked shocked Ifa mo gbo'ro kan  shocked shocked :-:-:-:
shocked shocked Ifa jinginjingin Ooooo  shocked shocked :-:-:-
shocked shocked Ifa mo gbo'ro kan Ooooo  shocked shocked:-:-:-:
smiley wink grin cheesy wink grin smiley

shocked shocked Ifa ki i pu'ro  shocked shocked :-:-:-:-:
shocked shocked Ifa ki i she'ke shocked shocked :-:-:-:-:
shocked shocked Ifa ki i pu'ro O oo shocked shocked :-:-:-:-:
shocked shocked Ifa ki i she'ke eee shocked shocked :-:-:-:
shocked shocked ohun t'oba shele shocked shocked  :-:-:-:-:
shocked shocked ni'fa n wi   shocked shocked , :-:-:-:-:
My God, what nonsense is this? huh shocked
ComputersRe: Google Announces Own OS (Google Chrome OS) by Nezan(m): 9:32am On Jul 14, 2009
*dhtml:
I think this OS is a good idea. . .it will shake the tables a bit at the very least.
Yes, I think microsoft are at last getting a serious competitor.
IslamRe: The Death Of The Prophet: Coming Soon by Nezan(m): 6:16pm On Jul 13, 2009
Hello,,,,,,no response? grin
IslamRe: Sir Olabowale Lets Discuss Aisha's Age by Nezan(m): 6:15pm On Jul 13, 2009
olabowale:
[size=16pt]You can't deduce Aisha's by just the statement that they say she said,[/size] without considering all the factors of truthful elements with it! That is not a ahadith, based on the definition of ahadith. Secondly, if she was born prior to The year that begins Islam, the 40th year of the Prophet being alive and her father, Abu Bakr being 38 years old, we will have to say that she was at least 14 years old when her father made Hijra with the Prophet!
I hope your imam just read what you wrote there. Are you not supposed to believe in them hadiths and koran again? Are you doubting the hadiths? funny grin
IslamRe: The Message Of The Prophets--mohammad, Jesus, The Rest. by Nezan(m): 6:05pm On Jul 13, 2009
@ Olabowale,

Please remember to reply to my post on the thread on Mohammed's poisoning.

Jesus was clearly conscious of his deity and deliberately made that awareness known to others. Jesus identified himself so closely with the Father as to imply that he (Jesus) is God (which the Jews at that time would have understood as Yahweh). He made this association in many ways, including these:2

To know Jesus is to know Yahweh: "If you knew me, you would know my Father also" (John 14:7).
To see Jesus is to see Yahweh: "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father" (John 14:9).
To encounter Jesus is to encounter Yahweh: "Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me" (John 14:11).
To trust in Jesus is to trust in Yahweh: "Trust in God, trust also in me" (John 14:1).
As strict monotheists, many Jewish contemporaries of Jesus were outraged at his claims to divine authority. Their extreme reaction demonstrates that they understood Jesus to be claiming deity for himself.

Jesus said to them, "My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working." For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God (John 5:17-18).

Jesus' repeated insistence that he had an intimate and unique relationship to God the Father infuriated the crowds. Jesus didn't speak of God as "our Father," but as "my Father."

"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" At this, they picked up stones to stone him (John 8:58-59).

Jesus' use of "I am" (Greek, ego eimi) was also tantamount to saying "I am God," for he was applying to himself "one of the most sacred of divine expressions" from the Old Testament.3 Yahweh had specifically referenced himself as "I am" or "I am he" (Isa. 41:4; 43:10, 13, 25; 46:4; 48:12). Jesus may have also been echoing Exodus 3:14 where Yahweh refers to himself as the great "I AM." Again the reaction on the part of the Jews, the move to stone Jesus (the prescribed penalty for blasphemy, Lev. 24:16), contextually supports the assertion that he claimed deity for himself.

"I and the Father are one." Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?" "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God" (John 10:30-33).

Even this brief sampling of Jesus' words seems sufficient to support the thesis that Jesus of Nazareth did claim to be God. Jesus also invoked divine prerogatives and titles and performed many miraculous works, culminating in his own bodily resurrection from the dead.
FashionRe: Why Is Society So Obsessed With Looks? by Nezan(m): 5:17pm On Jul 13, 2009
@poster,
Are you not part of society? grin
PoliticsRe: Vote Wole Soyinka's Face For 5000 Naira Note Currency ! by Nezan(m): 5:15pm On Jul 13, 2009
CGKing:
Vote Soyinka's face for what now? For writing poems?
grin grin
HealthRe: Dangers Of Self Medication! by Nezan(m): 5:13pm On Jul 13, 2009
tayo_ast:
Sell Medication's got nothing to do with poverty.

I mean, how many times have pple who've d wherewithals Self Medicated?

It's all down to our orientation and perhaps mindset.

It's gonna take some hard work and massive enlightenment to make pple realise d danger inherent.
grin grin

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