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MadCow1:
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Disgusted?

I wish I was the one that got this.. Na dem go tire.. I go use Monkey Nigga deface the whole house until the Racist Pig pack out..

Guy bone, that thing is fake.

You mean that if you share a room with 3 or 4 other people who are easily identifiable, and are the only ones who have keycard access to that flat, them go do this kain thing?

They can't willingly implicate themselves like this if they dont have a mental problem. Also, this kind of beef no be one day job. You for don know who do am or who get you for mind.

I don't believe this shytt.

tevinsolt:
you bask in your ignorance. Show me evidence right now that those people were able to do what you've claimed in America, not the UK you fool but America (if you have a hard time telling the difference). Nigerians in America and covered under term black/African American, this should inform you that there isn't much difference. While Africa was just gaining independence, black Americans were fighting for civil human right here in America, so were other blacks around the world especially in the western hemisphere. In the 60's you couldn't even use the same restroom as whites in the south and some part of the North, talking about some nonentity from Africa being able to forge ahead in America. If AAs haven't paid the price, America would not be a place where blacks could freely migrate to.

As early as 1926, there were already Nigerians studying at US universities. I'm sure I don't need to tell you how expensive that must have been back then...Nnamdi Azikiwe got his Masters from Unversity of Pennyslyvania in 1934. I hope you know that UPen is an Ivy League uni and one of the most prestigious Unis in America. By 1960, Odemegwu Ojukwu was a board member at Shell Oil....one of the largest oil producers in the world.

If you think that some 'nonentity from Africa being able to forge ahead in America' was an impossible mission, you should go outside, buy a long sturdy cane, and then pay someone to flog you with it.

Like I said, the struggle of the average African American was and generally is not the struggle of the average Nigerian.

I dont believe this story

wesleychidi:
Don't sound naive my friend. Money can never erase racism in some climes. Is Davido richer than Samuel Eto,Prince Boateng even Danny Rose from England that have all been victims of racist abuse and chants? It's goes beyond money my friend.

Racist abuse in a football ground doesn't count my friend.

I remember attending a Nigerian game vs Scotland in London, and the Nigerian fans behind the goal were taunting the Scottish keeper, calling him a useless oyibo and asking where his skirt was....

If you attend football games as regularly as I do, you will recognise that abuse in the stadium, even racial abuse, doesn't really count as an act of racism per se. Football fans will abuse anything and anyone that isn't in their team shirt.

tevinsolt:
grand ignorance and short sightedness. Davido is able to go to America today to buy a property and chill because the African Americans you're dissociating him from, fought and paid the price for his Nigerian ass to do so. pick up a damn book and read will ya?

Paid which price?

And for who?

Before and During the Civil Rights Movement in the 60s, Rich Nigerians were already building extensive property portfolios abroad. The likes of Alhaji Dantata and Sir Odemegwu Ojukwu were filthy rich, and didnt need Dr Martin Luther King Jnr to fight for their right to buy property in America or the UK or anywhere else. The Civil Rights movement simply did not relate to them, because they were not in the same category as the average African American.

I think you may be the one who needs to 'pick up a damn book and read'

Toress was infinitely foolish yesterday.

The Neymar foul was stuppidd, he then followed up by barging Rakitic which the ref ignored, then finally that daft tackle on Busquets wey no dey hesistate to go to ground if you even breathe on him, let alone assault him with such reckless abandon.

I felt like slapping the f00l. I still do.

youmour:
im not a fan of him so i could care less how he lives hes life.

I'm sure the feeling is mutual

youmour:
I see,wear that jacket in the california and lets see if you come back alive

Kanye West lives in the Heart of California gaan gaan.

And he is still very much alive.

Obviously I may suffer some consequences if I wear the jacket to some hoods myself...but I'm not a millionaire....and therein lies my exact point.

SIRTee15:
Oprah Winfrey was once a victim of racism.
That flag was pulled down in South Carolina recently and the state Congress apologized.
Why should Kanye be producing jackets with such insignia.
Pls enlighten me, I want to know bcoz I'm yet to see a jew either producing or wearing Nazi inscribed jackets.

Oprah cannot be a victim of racism.

Victim bawo?

If you're referring to that shop incident....Oprah chose to walk away from the shop because she was shown cheaper bags than the one she wanted. The backlash forced not just the owner of the shop, but the Swiss GOVERNMENT to issue a public apology.

There is a level of money you get to when you can never be a victim of racism. Davido is there right now.

MadCow1:
I never knew before now that Kanye was rolling out a clothing line with the confederate flag branded on them.

Kanye is crazy though..

I agree Davidoo does not share the AA slave history, still does not make it alright for him to to be insensitive (Deliberately).

Its cool though.. I see the point you and Sweetcocoa are making.

Check this...

The Confederate flag: a symbol of racism for some, but a fashion choice for Kanye West.

The rapper was spotted Saturday wearing a jacket emblazoned with the flag after being criticized for featuring it on merchandise for his current “Yeezus” concert tour, People reports.

In an interview Monday with Los Angeles radio station 97.1 AMP, West explained why the former flag of Southern states during the Civil War made its way into his merchandise.

“You know, the Confederate flag represented slavery in a way – that's my abstract take on what I know about it,” he said, according to People. “So I made the song 'New Slaves.' So I took the Confederate flag and made it my flag. It's my flag. Now what are you going to do?"

You kuku don hear am now....from the horses mouth direct.

Spirit of Okija, what are you going to do bro?

sweetcocoa:
I'm wondering though.

Yeezy makes and sells these jackets, bearing in mind, he is AA.

If they haven't killed Mr west for that, why rain fire on David who I think is very ignorant of what went down?

My sister thank you jare

https://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Entertainment/876/493/kanye%20west%20confederate%20flag%20x17.jpg?ve=1&tl=1


The real story here should be that the jacket is quite cheap...The irony being that Davido is posting a 'flexing' photo in a jacket that costs less than 40 pounds on ebay.

Shinyjay:
You are so darn wrong brov. What happened sometime last month when the five-o came knocking on his door just cos he was living big. Had it not been for his YouTube views nigga would have been brutalised... So he is still under the grasp of racism whether he likes it or not. Money or no money, rich or broke.

He was investigated....he was NOT a victim.

The difference is that once you're rich, you dont suffer what poor blacks suffer. You cant be rich and victimised. So confedrate flag rightly means nothing to Davido.

MadCow1:
Fhuck that..

People suffered real consequences as a result of slavery..

The fact that Davidoo is rich and has enough money to live way about the racism level does not take away the sensitivity the confederate flags represents to Blacks in the U.S who had to live through lynching, burnings, segregation, oppression and all other atrocities carried out under that banner.

I may have money, but that does not make it okay for me to wear a Nazi Swastika on my shirt.. Not even as a Hip Hop symbol.


Davidoo fhucked up.. I just hope he was ignorant about it and didn't do it intentionally..

Davido is Nigerian...not Black American.


His history and experience is very different to the Black American experience.

Thus Confederate flag means absolutely nothing to him. Why should it?

The funny thing is that the Yeezy brand is owned by the Black American Kanye West - If Kanye is selling jackets with Confederate Flag on it, why cant Davido buy and wear it?

It's a Yeezus jacket - Made by a rich black man and worn by another rich black man.

Theres a level of money you accrue in life, when racism and racist symbols literally mean nothing to you.

Every single person moaning about this issue needs to understand that Davido will probably never be a victim of racism...

Courtois is better than DDG...and Neuer

If e pain you, consult your babalawo...

Some idi0ts would take their barbaric attitudes to their place of employment as teachers or admin staff, and then start taking out their frustrations in life on the pupils under the guise of 'discipline'.

If that was my child, the offender should just go and pick out his own coffin...

chrisley024:
I hope this is not United's version of Spy360.

This seems to be something worse.


Even Arif's client is a learner compared to this dude.

It would appear that this kagawa guy seems to be a lie that has somehow come to life, and managed to gain access to the Internet

Cos there's simply no logical explanation for this level of lying

Griffon:
Nihilist I sent you a copy of a classified info. Check your mail now. No dull my spirit

Replied. I checked every item and all look very promising save for one.

I dey reason whether to quickly tasi the movement sef on a skibbyjibby

SCOOPERJEF:
Is it true that mourinho is now SE head coach or just a mere april fool news. . .

I heard Martin O'Neill has been offered the job after Pinnick flew to Ireland to discuss contracts...

Dadehmola:
Haba!

Where did I suggest such??

Lemme even say something sef - If Moyes is the only option available as we speak, (God forbid), I wouldn't mind him replacing LVG!

My position on this issue is clear - our standards have fallen so badly, we actually wouldn't mind replacing our useless manager with someone who was recently kicked out at Chelsea for battling relegation.

If no be say we be guys....

This is the kind of statement that makes want to go back to my old job as a hired killer...

Seriously if no be say we be guys...

raumdeuter:
Avram Grant didnt have a coaching license yet was given a job at Chelsea in England that doesnt give people chances.

By the time he went to Lazio he had already won Coppa Italia, by the time he went to Inter he had already won 2 Coppa Italia. Pay attention and see the progression

Mourinho was assistant coach at Lisbon to Juup just like Giggs(Though Welsh) is currently and when Juup left he assumed post of manager just like Giggs did at Englands biggest club when Moyes was let go.

Difference after the Benfica small job Mourinho found his way to small club Uniao Leira to gain first team managerial experience while Giggs is still sitting in Man Utd bench instead of finding his way to West Brom like Mourinho did

But let English manager continue to wait for someone to hand them the biggest prize

In effect Guardiola, Zidane,Wenger Mancini and Pellegrini were handed the biggest prize!

You asked why the English have not won the league.

The answer is that the English do not manage the teams that have won the league.

The reason why they haven't been given the chance to manage those clubs is down to a lack of trust.

I have shown time and time again how experience is optional when it comes to recruiting on the continent. Mancini was still a player for Leicester when he got offered the Fiorentina job. This was a team that had won the Coppa Italia only the season before...and were playing in Europe, signing an actual football player still in contract to manage them.

Mourinho had no experience before becoming Benfica manager. AvB had less than a year. Pellegrini relegated one club, the next season he was hired by the biggest club in Chile. Wenger relegated a club in May...by July he was managing Monaco.

It's then patently obvious that their past experiences or even failures cannot be objectively used as a reason to castigate English managers, when their contemporaries have histories just as bad...or even none at all!


Which is why I'm going to ask you for the last time: Why does 'experience' seem to be holding back English managers in England, in a way that it clearly doesn't elsewhere in Europe?

I'll give you a clue: It's the same reason why you are depriving a natural born American of a job where you are. The same reason why there's a white English boy probably crying himself to sleep at night because Ibime is sitting in the chair that should have been his....

It's the one of the reasons why the UK will be voting on June 23 whether to remain in the European Union....

raumdeuter:
Before Inter Mancini went to Fiorentina and Lazio are those not the equivalent of Spurs and Newcastle?

Before Porto Mourinho went to Union Leira and Benfica what are the equivalent of those here? are those not Bolton and Liverpool size?

Catolica wasnt the first job Pellegrini did , I checked wiki now and saw he managed Palestino and O'Higgins are those the top clubs in Chile?
Jogi Low was given German NT just like McClaren was given the NT what did Low make of his what did McClaren make of his

Although Mancini had written a research pamphlet entitled "Il Trequartista" which examined the role of an attacking midfielder, he had not as yet attained the necessary coaching badges to become a manager. He therefore needed special dispensation from the Italian football authorities to take the post at Fiorentina,[34] which was given on 4 March 2001.

Wikipedia

That alone tells you the kind of support granted to Mancini in Italy that you cannot find in England. He wasn't even legally qualified to manage, yet he got a job at Fiorentina

By the time he got offered the Lazio job, he had only 10 months total of managerial experience.

10 months experience was all Mancini needed to get a shot to manage a Champions League club.

By the time he went to Inter, he had only been a manager for 2 years.

Jose Mourinho had ZERO managerial experience when he got the chance to manage Benfica....a Champions league club and one of the biggest clubs in Portugal.

Which English manager has been given that chance at a top club?

Dayo please just get out of here....

raumdeuter:
AVB took a bottom club mid table and was rewarded with a bigger opportunity

All these mancini Mourinho you said they had success with the smaller clubs and were given bigger clubs

Brendan Rodgers had success in small Swansea, People thought his football was revolutionary, they promoted him to a top side and gave him money. Where did he end Liverpool? Was that the way Mourinho Mancini, Pep ended the bigger clubs they gave them?

Redknapp won the FA cup with Portsmouth and was rewarded with a bigger pie in SPurs, How did he fare afterwards?

Allardyce did well with Bolton and was given a bigger pie in Newcastle to manage. How did he do? Failed

Steve McClaren? He did well with Boro, was actually given the NT job and he failed to qualify them for Europe

The continental examples you gave, they did faily well in smaller clubs they are entrusted to bigger clubs and perform well. who would entrust anything to Rodgers, Redknapp McClaren after what they destroyed

My friend why do you keep jumping f course.

There have been 4 dominant clubs in the EPL.

I've given examples of managers going from relegation straight to title contending clubs in their home countries. Managers with a year or less of top flight managerial experience given opportunities at regular title contending clubs like Inter, Porto, Monaco(at the time), Real Madrid, Barca and Universidad Catolica(One of the biggest clubs in Chile)...and you're here mentioning Bolton spurs and Newcastle.



You seem to be on a mission to dumb down the discussion, otherwise you would have acknowledged this very obvious discrepancy....which would have led to a discussion on WHY this discrepancy exists.

I've no time for your usual post shifting antics. Good night.

raumdeuter:
All these coaches you mentioned started from smaller teams in their home countries did well before they got to bigger teams in their home country did well before they went abroad

Ferguson started from St Mirren did well, went to Aberdeen did well before he gott to go to Man Utd

Mourinho same thing started at a smaller club did well, went to Porto did Well went to Chelsea

Mancini took Fiorentina won Coppa Italia, went to Lazio won Copa Italia before he got the opportunity to coach Inter Milan

What happened to all the English coaches? What happened to all the opportunities given to them

Steve McClaren was touted to be a brilliant coach by English standard i heard he was just fired by Newcastle after poor results, Tim Sherwood nko? WHat of Gary Monk sacked after 1 win in 11, The saviour Brendan Rodgers nko? Was he not given enough support at Liverpool? Was he fired untimely? Or Kevin Keegan

When would the Alan Pardew, Alan Curbushley, Paul Jewel, Roy Hodgson, Glen Roeder do well in their smaller clubs to earn a promotion to bigger clubs before we can start talking

Again this thing is very simple.

These guys got jobs at the top clubs in theIreland countries with relatively little experience.

AVB had only one years managerial experience and he got the job at porto. Jose had around 3 years of managerial experience. Mancini had relegated Fiorentina in his very short managerial career pre-inter. Wenger went straight from relegation to Monaco.

The fact of the matter is that all these guys got opportunities and patience in their home countries that is not available here.

The equivalent of Porto Monaco and Inter is Manyoo City Arsenal and Chelsea.

Please stop dumbing down the discussion by mentioning newcastle and Swansea.

As you can see from the examples I gave, even relegation did not stop Wenger from being offered a title shot with Monaco. It didn't stop Mancini from being offered a title shot at Inter. Pep went from Barca's reserves to a title shot. Even Zidane went from coach to manager with zero experience.

So why is Pardew finishing 5th with that dead Newcastle but only saw a job at relegation battling (at the time) Palace?

How come Redknapp with FA Cup wins and UCL experience never got a cracK at one of the current big 4?

Why is Nigel Adkins who led Southampton to back to back promotions from.League 1 to EPL currently back in league 1 managing Sheffield United?

You can argue that they've failed in some regards, but the nature of the managerial career includes inevitable failures...

The question is why is it that it's only in the EPL that the failures actively work against English managers?

raumdeuter:
This is Bullshitt sorry

5 teams have won the league since 1992. What Pedigree did Mancini have before winning the league and what pedigree did Ranieiri have if he should win this league or if Pocchetino wins what pedigree would he have?

The sacking culture in England is no different than its in other leagues Since August when the league started EPL has fired/resigned 9 coaches, Italy has sacked/resigned 11, La Liga 9 coaches, So how is this asinine excuse a reason for the poverty of footballing and coaching talent in England

Didnt all these clubs try English coaches before sacking them? Aside Man Utd, tell us any EPL club who didnt have an English coach since 1992 yet they have found a way to sack them. Was it not Mark Hughes who failed the City project before they started hiring Mancini and co?

Did Chelsea not try Glenn Hoddle before dumping him for Gullit, Vialli and co? Did Liverpool not give several opportunities to Brendan Rodgers, Kevin Keegan etc

The NT nko? How come the local coaches are so useless that they have to appoint foreigners to coach even the NT

4 teams have dominated the EPL since 1992.

These 4 teams have marked their ascendancy with periods of heavy spending.

Ferguson was breaking the British transfer records regularly from 1993 and i think he did that more on more than 5 occasions

Arsenal under Wenger regularly outspent most most other teams in terms of wages/transfers

Chelsea only became dominant from the coming of Roman, before him, we were the equivalent of spurs today(if that sef) so your point about hoddle/ vialli and co is not even relevant.

City only became relevant with the coming of Arab money.

Now check this.

Is there a single manager who won the league at any of these clubs who had not already won the league in their countries of birth?

Every single one of these guys, from Ferguson, to Wenger, to Jose to Ancelotti to Mancini to Pellegrini. All of these guys had won their local leagues in their countries of birth....


Some of the names I mentioned there, went straight from relegating a club to managing the top clubs of their home countries e.g Wenger, Pellegrini and Mancini.

Someone like AVB had virtually no managerial experience but was given a chance at Portugal's biggest club. The only manager that has been given that kind of chance is Moyes....and hes not English

What English manager has been given this opportunity in his own country?

Btw Mark Hughes is NOT English

raumdeuter:
Wetin Ryan Giggs do.

As analysts Atimes its easy to sit down and claim one coach is shit or this and that. For University na me be the coach of my department and I know wetin my eye dey see

Boys no go come training but go insist say dem wan play, We go get training people like dadehmola dem go siddon for girls hostel, some of them for halftime go light cigar like nihilist and dey smoke by the time dem enter field after 6mins would be begging to be subbed out

Some go insists on the position they have to play, Some no go ever fall back to help in defence just stand for front putting hand for waist waiting for ball

You go even set formation finish person like Ibime with dem oversabi go dey tell you say na this formation we suppose play

You have to admit that aside competence there is a lot of luck that goes into coaching e.g I believe Benitez is a better tactician than many give him props for and he's better than coaching a relegation bound Newcastle

Exactly!

Neville wey no even sabi speak Spanish. He probably just thought that he would go out there and show them the sky ipad with the blue counters and tell them to play like that.

He should have done it the Henry way...coaching under an experienced manager like Wenger, learning the trade small small.

Then again he must have remembered that Ferguson won the league with mediocre muppets like himself and John oshea in the team, and spoke in a Scottish burr so deep it must have sounded like a foreign accent...

So he brushed his rat tail moustache, bought a new ipad, and flew his camera man to the Valencia dressing room in search of glory...

Glory glory Gary fvking Neville

raumdeuter:
A German Juup Heyckenes and Bernd Schuster won La Liga. A Portuguese Jose Mourinho is current EPL champion to be succeded by an Italian Ranieri with Ancelotti another Italian having won in the past while a Frenchman Wenger has won multiple EPL titles

The CL trophies won by English teams were won by a Scot, A Spainard and another Italian Di Matteo

Since 1992 every major league has been dominated by no more than 4 teams yet they have multiple indigenous coaches who have won

Shame on England

Its toown early to be submitting asinine comments

Of the 4 teams that have won the league since 92, 2 of them have had very long term managers, the two new guys on the block brought marquee managers with pedigree.


An English manager hasn't won it simply because there hasn't been an English manager at any of those teams for the last 20 years.

A lot of this simply has to do with the sacking culture prevalent in England. All the big name foreign coaches in England today were given opportunities in their homelands to cut their teeth before moving to England to manage.

Ferguson managed in Scotland. Wenger managed in France. Jose Managed in Portugal. LVG managed in Holland.

But when in England, you get sacked before you even get the chance to hang your picture on the wall in your new office, how do you get the chance to cut your teeth?

How do you get the chance to gain the relevant experience to become a marquee manager yourself?

So I don't see how some idi0t somewhere can claim English managers don't have the knowledge, when none have been given the chance. I'm even more disappointed that you posted that rubbish here

raumdeuter:
An interesting article

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Since the Premier League was formed in 1992, not a single English manager has won the title. A lesser known fact, however, is that the last Englishman to finish second in the top flight was Kevin Keegan at Newcastle United 20 years ago.

In the two decades following 'King Kev'’s infamous meltdown on live television, only two English bosses have even managed third position in the EPL: Roy Evans at Liverpool and a 70-year-old Sir Bobby Robson at Newcastle in 2003.


The state of English coaching at the highest level is quite frankly embarrassing. The FA and Premier League should be ashamed. There are currently only three English managers in the EPL; two of these at sides who are fighting relegation (Alan Pardew and Sam Allardyce). Neville’s dismissal by Valencia means there are now no English coaches in La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1 or the Bundesliga. Even two of the last four England managers have been foreign.

Neville could be considered an exception in this respect. But [size=14pt]the English nation as a whole, to put it bluntly, lacks footballing intellect when compared to their rivals[/size].

The main reason for this is the notoriously inward-looking British press which would have you believe that the only football being played in the world is in the Premier League, the "best league in the world".

http://www.goal.com/en/news/14312/features/2016/03/30/21847742/no-premier-league-titles-one-european-trophy-in-32-years-english-?ICID=HP_BN_2

How many Portuguese, French, German or any other countryman won the EPL.

Obviously no English manager has won the EPL because since 92 because the league was largely dominated by 4 clubs...all of whom could be argued have bought their way to success...and none of whom had an Englishman doing the buying

Your article is quite dumb ramuzaki

raumdeuter:
Neville sacked he'll be back to yabbing coaches

Benitez should have waited for his Valencia job instead of the Newcastle useless gig he took

Tabbing who?

Shame no gree am.

I don't understand that guy at all. He saw his age mates Shearer, Scholes, Ferdinand, Redknapp and co quickly super glue their nyashes to the pundits couch where they can get paid handsomely to play armchair managers.

Dude yabbed and yabbed until he actually believed his own hype and decided that managing was actually as easy as pausing and rewinding clips on the studio ipad.

He neve once asked himself why so many failed managers like Shearer, Souness, Hoddle and co were dragging studio time with him every weekend during and after matches....well now he knows

Touch screen yato si Touchline.

Next up, Ryan Giggs

Kagawa10:
This is what we need right now at manutd, not Mourinho who's incapable of laying down a foundation that would continue to sustain success in a long run.

Can you please explain this nonsense?

Neville reportedly sacked by Valencia

Glory Glory Gary Neville.

E sweet me die.