₦airaland Forum

Ibime:
Nah, his legs can't have given out, He's just 30. In the World Cup just last summer, he still had fitness. I would just say he struggled with injury this season, that's all.

Well ,He seems to be suffering from recurrent injuries over the last two seasons.
The same old flare ups.

nitlad:
You already know we - Ijesha Warriors here. . .


FA Cup codes to CareFreeTrolling@gmail.com please. . .

Ibime:
Looks like Schweinsteiger is joining Manure.

JM better wake up. Schweini + Schneiderlin is a big game changer, meawhile he is joining issues with Falcao.

I hope Schweini injuries continue to haunt him.

BTW, new Chelsea rumour is £15m for Pedro. I say bring it on. He's a perfect complement winger for Hazard.

I swear to God.
Schweini's legs gave out a long time ago, but with all the central midfielders they have to rotate, I guess Van Gaal will be able to manage him better.

A40:
I saw this somewhere. I didn't see Mueller on their list. I was so peeved I decided to do something about it.

Adidas vs Nike. Who you with?

I for choose Nike...until I saw 'Boa-tank'

Olurun Maje.

See as them dey use Naija boy's tap

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I'm still on the fence about my team name for this year:

Should I go for BuhariBombers? or BRTconductors? or CaitlinJenner's Pennies?

bigkesh:
This Window so far have shown the difference between LA liga and EPL......
Valencia,sevilla and Madrid are signing really good players for peanuts..... Well stoke are paying 14m for Shaquiri
Imagine Konoplaynka for free and other EPL teams were watching........

If a Teams like Everton or Tottenham can have a good scouting Network like Porto,sevilla,Benfica and co with the money they earn they can really do things....
But again that work permit issue is a problem

I can't understand it myself....How did Khedira go to Juve on a free for instance?

That guy was a boss at the World Cup and has always been a really good player.

Dr Nihilist formerly of Greasy Chip Butty and Chidi Lloyd's macers reporting for duty.

Please forward FA-Cup codes to jackbauersballs@gmail.com

Mukina2 how far Na?

FPL don open o

Nzonzi to Sevilla for 7 million....

That guy is not bad o

So only Ibime is capable of recognising a joke on this thread?

Pete Edochie on Ojukwu

Courtois looked class in training today, not letting 1 goal in from 3000 shots. Tomorrow, he & Falcao will train with the rest of the squad.

coogar:
are you deliberately being thick now?

how is it not relevant? i am basically saying cabaye is useless to your cause! he has no pace and he doesn't have positional intelligence to compensate for his lack of pace.

Your revisionist post has been duly noted and discarded as irrelevant.

Cabaye that was averaging over 2 interceptions per game at Newcastle suddenly doesn't have positional intelligence?

Matic hasn't even posted those kind of numbers and is the best DM in EPL right now.

coogar:
the explanation is simply tutoring you that carrick's lack of pace has nothing to do with his effectiveness. if you think another player with no pace can do a carrick then you need spiritual deliverance.

Thanks Mr Lesson Teacher.
How is this relevant to our discussion though?

coogar:
don't compare carrick to the legion of plodders in your team. what carrick does better than anyone in the league is his anticipation thus interception. maldini faced ronaldo/rooney at age 37. none of them could speed past him cos of his positional intelligence. pace is nothing if you know which positions to occupy on the pitch!

Waiting for what your explanation has to do with anything...

nyabinghi:
are you a WUM, did I start the diatribe ? I made my points but the dullard fired the first salvo. I have been on nairaland before his ancestors had access to a 486 dx2 processor

Bros no vex.

But is there any need to prove which school you went to on the Internet?

If they yab you say you have a tail, would you snap a picture of your bum to disprove it?

Stop taking things P. Take it as a joke or don't respond.

lalaboi:
Fab n Cabaye are very similar. both slow, Can pick you out with a pass, short range and long range. it terms of defensive attributes, Cabaye is better.

I'ts true Matic Cabaye may be better but we've seen Mourinho play Willian/Oscar alot in the no10 position because of their directness and energy levels. So where would Fab play as he's too slow and cannot close down as quick as Willian or Oscar? Pivot.

That being said, 12Milla wont be bad for a squad rotation player.

4-3-3 or maybe Fab in the hole.

Matic already plays b2b...and Cabaye can just sit.

Carrick no get any pace at all and he does the job well at Manyoo.

The only problem is that We for no see am for 12 mill sha. More like 25.

Nyabinghi why is it so easy to wind you up?
Especially when your anger seems to make you do some irrational things.

You need to chill out a bit. If you must respond to disses, make it humorous, don't take it P.

lalaboi:
A midfield of Fabregas and Cabaye will not do any good. 2 slow asz ninjas. I believe what Jose is on the look out for is an energetic box 2 box Midfielder

I disagree.

Matic Cabaye is even better than Matic Fab in the pivot.

Cabaye is more defensive minded than Fab sef.

Cabaye is going to Palace for only 12 mill.

I swear all of the top 4 have been sleeping on top bicycle

coogar:
let's be honest....
save for sammer - italians have the best defenders. i dunno where they harvest them from.

Peep this

Think back to the last time you saw a football team play pure man-to-man defense. Fans of a certain age (including the authors at this site) would be hard pressed to come up with more than one or two examples. In fact, there’s good reason for this: apart from Greece in the 2004 European Championships, zonal marking (and variations of zonal marking) is the modern standard. But it wasn’t always this way: during the 1950s, 60s, and into the 70s, Italy ruled the footballing world with a hard-nosed defensive approach known as catenaccio (“the chain”).

Though its defensive roots are older, the catenaccio system was first implemented in its purest and most recognizable form at Unione Triestina in the late 1940s, by the team’s then-coach Nereo Rocco. It helped the team to a surprising second place finish in Serie A that year; Rocco (whose managerial style is captured with this possibly apocryphal quote: “Kick anything that moves; if it’s the ball, so much the better”) also used the strategy to good effect as the coach of Padova and AC Milan during the next decade. It reached its most prominent during the 1960s, under Helenio Herrera, the manager at Internazionale. Inter made the finals of the European Cup 3 times during the decade, winning twice in 1964 and 1965.

The system was remarkable not only for its success, but also for the strategic innovations it brought to the game. First, it assigned strict man-marking responsibilities to its defenders. Each of four defenders would fix onto an attacking player for the duration of the match, with a central midfielder roaming the pitch in front of them to receive outlet passes.

That’s the formation Herrera used at Inter in the 60s. The line of four blue defenders represents the players tasked with marking attackers. The single blue player behind the line of the defenders is the second innovation of the catenaccio system: the libero, or sweeper. This player’s responsibility was to rove the area at the back to clean up his fellow defenders’ mistakes or, if necessary, to double-mark particularly dangerous attacking players.

[img]http://theprofessionalfoul.files./2014/01/catenaccio.jpg[/img]
As is obvious from the formation and personnel, defense was the primary goal of catenaccio, so it’s notable that the only recognizeable aspect of the strategy that remains today is its approach to attacking. To the extent attacking had a place within the system, it was through counter-attack. After an opponent’s forward progress was neutralized (i.e., sucked into the black hole of Italian defense), the defender on the ball had two choices. The less common approach was to send the ball short to the central midfielder up front; more often, it involved kicking the ball long as quickly as possible in the general direction of the strikers, and letting them deal with the rest. Though this approach may not have the finesse and beauty of the typical counter-attack in the modern game, the two tactics share a similar root (not to mention that some clubs — Stoke City of the Premier League, for one — have enjoyed success even today with this long-ball attacking strategy).

Catenaccio was among the most effective tactics developed during the middle part of last century — primarily with the Italian national team and for Serie A clubs — but pure catenaccio itself was fairly short-lived. In the time between 1963 and 1973, seven Italian sides played in the European Cup final, but in the 1974 World Cup, pure catenaccio was dealt a fatal blow at the hands of Dutch Total Football. (We’ll talk more about the development and importance of Total Football in a later post.) After 1974, though Italian sides, and the Italian national team, would maintain a reputation for hard-nosed defending, the catenaccio formation, and even the use of a libero, became increasingly rare. (Some have suggested that the Italians continued to use the system throughout the 80s; but after Total Football and ’74, the most common Italian strategy was a modification of zonal marking and man coverage. This tactic was often referred to as Zona Mista, and allowed for more balance between attacking and defending than catenaccio does.)

You may hear from time to time that certain teams still use catenaccio — think, for example, of Chelsea’s famous win over Barcelona in the 2012 Champions’ League semifinal — but feel free to disregard those comments. The world hasn’t seen pure catenaccio in decades; the game has moved on. And we don’t know your thoughts on the matter, but we’re thankful for it: We like goals.

afrodoc2:
..........................................YASHIN............................................

.......SANTOS........MOORE..........SCHNELLINGER......FACHETTI.......

....................................BECKENBAEUR...................................

.......GARRINCHA..............CHARLTON.......................BEST........

.........................DI STEFANO..........PELE................................

I am sure this is not the best possible team from that era, but if all these talents were in one club they would bury Barca or any other modern club. It should not even be up for debate.

For a 90s Worldup winners flavour,

I'll go


..........................................TAFFARELL............................................

.......CAFU........MALDINI..........NESTA......ROBERTO CARLOS.......

....................................DUNGA...................................

.......PIRES..............ZIDANE.......................RIVALDO........

.........................RONALDO.........ROMARIO................................

The only weak(ish) link there to me is Pires...

elampiro:
Dont mind leggo, he is so confused. When Torres scored against Barca , he was alone in more than half of the field. Did that happen in 1930?

I could list endlessly . Welbeck had a space big enough for a car park when he missed against Bayern.

Di Maria's miss against Arsenal? Neymar's goal against Juve?

leggo:
I respect people with different opinions and I can make decisions based on what I observe.. You came here all the way from your ogogoro joint to spew nonsense all over a discourse that doesn't have the slightest connection to Chelsea FC ; History.
are you not leading a pathetic life son? get back to the joke section where you belong.

What does Messi vs Maradona have to do with Manyoo?

Dude let's just cool it and not derail the thread. I apologise for any offence I caused. Have a great day.

leggo:
you can't see me, can't hear me... you are a Chelsea fan

You are the lone voice of stupiditty in this discussion.

I'm a Chelsea fan and maybe I cant hear or see you...but what of the Manyoo fans that can see and hear you embarrass yourself with every post?

Leggo...you need to let go of your foolish opinions and be enlightened.

leggo:
but you are quite the retardded imp, my friend.. I simply corrected your nonsense talk.. everyone has an opinion but some of yours should be kept close to your chest

You talk like a m0ron, look like a m0ron, and sound like a m0ron...but you think you're a physics professor.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

leggo:
I'm telling you as a matter of fact that you are ridiculous to call lahm a true great of the game if messi is on table two

You are irredeemably dull.

Why stop at comparing Lahm to Messi...why not compare Messi to Oliver Kahn?

leggo:
you have a problem with continuity ,out of all the names that have been floated today who has mentioned someone who is not regarded in some quarters as the greatest ever in a capacity( overall or in a specific position)

Dude I'm only responsible for what I type, and not what you comprehend

I listed examples of some of the true greats of the game...who have won everything there is to win at club level...with the added distinction of winning the world cup.
I could have listed Thierry Henry instead of Pele/Maradona, Pirlo instead Xavi/Zidane, or Cafu instead of Lahm\Cannavaro.

The point is simple. You need to win the World Cup first before you can stake your claim as the greatest...until then, sit at the next table