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Ishilove:
Dodging the gym... dodging the gym...

You are Jackbauersballs??

Yes

Ishilove:
I didn't fall out with anyone. You are the one who goes around antagonising people.

When did I ever antagonise you?
Once upon a time, we shared a love for poetry and dodging the gym.

Then one day, you just started to insult me.
Then you became a mod.

How did that happen?

Dhelake:
Do you have an iPhone??

Na wetin I wan just ask am now?

Ishilove:
Lol. I am sure he knows

My old friend from before before

Why did you fall out with me sef?

AirborneLacer:
Well you know La Masia is dead when Barca spends over £80m in a single transfer window. Gone are the days when the Catalans would look up to their youth setup for the next big thing. For you to challenge in Elite europe, you simply have to spend big. It's a fact.

Anyways, does anyone else think that Mou is prepared to go all the way when it comes to getting John Stones and that, quite possibly, the manner in which he's made it all so public is a way of trying to get Stones a little unsettled?

Or is this just his smart way of saying ''JT, Cahill and Zouma get real this season, or I got a Stone to fling at you all?

Forget that transfer no make sense on any level.
If you're looking for a 5th CB, Vlaar is a free agent and will be happy to just ride the bench.

And for the price quoted? That's a madness!

La Masia is dead though...or dying.

Debroslink, peep this article.

In the 14th minute of Barcelona’s game against Levante on 25 November 2012 Martín Montoya replaced Dani Alves to complete a significant moment in the history of the club. For the first time in Barça’s history, the entire first team comprised of players who had graduated through the club’s historic La Masia academy. Two goals from Lionel Messi and one each from Andrés Iniesta and Cesc Fàbregas sealed a comfortable 4-0 victory on the way to Barcelona’s 22nd league title.

Víctor Valdés, Montoya, Carles Puyol, Gerard Piqué, Jordi Alba, Xavi, Sergio Busquets, Iniesta, Messi, Pedro and Fàbregas were the 11 players would go down in folklore as the realisation of Barcelona’s academy-based approach proposed by Johan Cruyff in the late 1970s. Pep Guardiola, the man who had given debuts to a lot of the players before handing the reins to Tito Vilanova, knew better than anyone what representing Barcelona and Catalan pride meant, having progressed through La Masia himself before amassing over 300 appearances for the club.

Not all of the players were born in Barcelona; Messi travelled over from Argentina as a 13-year-old. Neither had they all gone straight into the first team; Alba was brought back to the club from Valencia at a cost of €14m, Piqué came to the first team via Manchester United and Fàbregas had captained Arsenal before playing for Barcelona. However, they all understood the ethos instilled by Cruyff’s philosophy and nurtured by Guardiola and his coaches, including the sadly departed Vilanova.

Barcelona’s only other transfer outlay before the 2012-13 season – aside from Alba – was the €18m spent to buy Alex Song from Arsenal. Marc Muniesa, Cristian Tello, Jonathan dos Santos, Marc Bartra and Montoya were all promoted to the first-team squad to boost Vilanova’s options. They stormed to the Liga title with 100 points, 15 more than arch-rivals Real Madrid.

The following season saw a similar transfer structure under Tata Martino, who took over from Vilanova in the summer of 2013 in what was a difficult managerial transition. Neymar picked Barcelona over a host of Europe’s elite clubs, while Rafinha, Sergi Roberto, Oier Olazábal and Gerard Deulofeu were promoted from Barcelona B to the senior squad.

However, the 2013-14 window was significant for two reasons. Firstly, Thiago Alcântara, the regal playmaker who was raised in La Masia as the heir to Xavi and Iniesta, followed Guardiola to Bayern Munich for €30m. That Thiago saw first-team opportunities limited enough to leave the Camp Nou, despite the advancing years of Xavi and Iniesta, was a worrying sign for a club that had built a reputation on an unwavering trust in youth.

Secondly, and more importantly, Neymar’s transfer from Santos turned into a boardroom disaster. Sandro Rosell was forced to stand down as president after the €57.1m transfer fee quoted turned out to be closer to €100m. Lawsuits were brought against several of the parties involved in the deal, including Rosell and his successor, Josep Maria Bartomeu, and Neymar’s father.

Barcelona were hit with a transfer ban that would stop them from registering players until January 2016. Planning ahead before the ban was handed down, the club spent almost €170m on Luis Suárez, Jérémy Mathieu, Thomas Vermaelen, Ivan Rakitic, Marc-André ter Stegen, Claudio Bravo and Douglas.

To make way for the influx of new players, La Masia graduates Fàbregas, Tello, Bojan Krkic, Jonathan, Olazábal, Isaac Cuenca, Denis Suárez, Deulofeu, Puyol and Valdés left the club to either retire or pursue careers away from the Camp Nou. Even with the transfer ban in place, Barça have showed few signs of halting their transfer activity, signing Arda Turan from Atlético Madrid for £24m and Aleix Vidal from Sevilla for £16m. There are rumours that Paul Pogba may join them from Juventus and that Pedro could leave for Chelsea.

Again, La Masia graduates are leaving the club, with Xavi moving to Qatar to play for Al Sadd, Deulofeu moving to Everton on a permanent basis and Montoya, the player who completed the academy puzzle in November 2012, joining Internazionale. So, with a transfer ban in place and the constant pressure applied by a free-spending Real Madrid, the obvious question is: are Barça moving away from their academy-based approach?

On the face of it, the faith shown in their youth products looks to be in decline. Only Munir El Haddadi, who supported Real Madrid and was discovered by Atlético, and Rafinha, who moved to Barcelona from Brazil aged 13, were able to make an impact last season, with other promising youngsters Sandro Ramírez, Adama Traoré and Sergi Samper finding first-team chances incredibly rare.

Samper is a prime example of a player who might need to leave the Camp Nou to fulfil his undoubted potential. The 20-year-old’s positional sense and technical ability have long made him a standout player for Barcelona B, but he is now at an age where he needs to be playing regular first team football.

The arrival of Turan only knocks Samper further down the pecking order and in danger of following the same path as Sergi Roberto who, at 23, looks to be leaving Barcelona despite once being marked as a future star. The conundrum that faces young players such as Munir and Adama is that they need to be playing regularly to realise their potential but are competing against a frontline of Suárez, Messi and Neymar.

Of the recent graduates to make the step up from Barcelona B to the senior side, only Bartra can consider himself anything like a regular, and even that is at a push. Alba, Barça’s undisputed first choice left-back, had to leave Catalonia to return a better player. Álex Grimaldo looks to have the best chance of establishing himself as a regular in the first-team squad given Barcelona’s lack of depth in the full-back department, but that was what people thought of Montoya and he now finds himself playing his football elsewhere.

Samper, Sandro and Munir all have the ability to become mainstays in the Barcelona squad but it remains to be seen whether they will play enough football to reach their potential.

It is too simple to say that Barcelona are being forced into a shift in mentality due to Real Madrid’s galáctico approach, because that has always been the Madrid way, even when Guardiola’s crop of La Masia graduates were in their pomp. There may well be a political element creeping into the Camp Nou, with prospective and current presidents keen to stamp their mark on their time in office with a marquee signing.

However, the likely answer is that Barcelona enjoyed a golden generation, the likes of which we would be very lucky to see again, as Manchester United’s class of 1999 and Ajax’s class of 1995 can attest to. For a club to be blessed with so many outstanding talents from their academy takes hard work, dedication and cerebral coaching, but it also takes a huge chunk of luck. In modern football, where television and prize money is gargantuan and winning is everything, would Barcelona supporters be happy sticking with their academy approach to the detriment of their domination of world football?

For some Barcelona supporters the lack of home-grown players coming through into the first team will be seen as a worrying trend. Others will be gleeful at the chance to see Turan, a magician of a midfielder, put on the famous Barcelona shirt, unperturbed by the knowledge that someone like Samper has been forced out because of his move. The next 12 months will be pivotal in the medium-term future of La Masia and its famed productivity

http://www.theguardian.com/football/these-football-times/2015/jul/16/barcelona-la-masia-academy-decline-neymar-pedro

hensben:
if you are iPhone user you will know all these typo errors are normal.

So in other words, Starboard needs to upgrade from his 3310?

standd:
Oh. God knows your juju works on me but just go and start your own thread biko...kilode nah, I will burst your coconut head very soon.

Forget it. You know I love you.
9 out of 10 times I will back you in any endeavour. This just happened to be the tenth

coogar:
untalented players who just run & run cos EA sports refused to address the glitch of players running at defenders. these days, they run zig-zag and they just breeze past the defence line. it's nonsense!
i am a purist!
i play the game like the big clubs in the real world play it. i pass the ball around, look for openings, put through passes in here & there. i just don't see how you can enjoy players running straight into your goal from kick-off.

This is the reason I've stuck to career mode in recent months.
I've put a controller through my TV in the past, and smashed a couple against the wall for the sheer fuckery that EA facilitates in FUT.

The worst was the Spanish speaking opponent I faced, with the ST Ronaldo card. I was up 2-0 in the first half, and coasting. This fucker started high pressure, zig zag running and shooting from range with Ronaldo and I couldn't stop it. Long range hattrick to win 3-2.

To make matters worse, the bastard would celebrate each goal in a cuntish fashion, either shushing me, or doing that stuppid prancing bird move.

To finally add(literally) insult to injury, towards the end of the game, he started passing the ball round the back, while laughing and saying "Fvck your mother, Fvck your father" in his heavily accented English, whenever I put in a desperate tackle.

By the time the ref blew, there was a tear running down my left eye. I was so incensed. I had the superior possession, shots on targets, pass percentages etc. He just had a ridiculous number of tackles from the pressure abuse. That and 3 goals to my two.

That was the day I gave up FUT 15. I cannot continue to get myself so wound up over a badly scripted video game.

I'm not going back....

At least till FUT16

No honour amongst thieves then.

I'm surprised that thieves would stoop so low as to rob their fellow thieves.

standd:
Nihilist, eh If you can call anyone abusive, then there is hope for Shekau calling another a murderer.
You should look in the mirror often, you will see abusive staring back at you. Try it

***
And the people liking your rants against this thread must hate themselves so much cos standd does not know or even bother about them..

Standd, all this your gragra no fit move me one bit.

I know you are salty that I have busted the myth you were trying to perpetuate here,by showing several instances of women engaging in the very same behaviour you were denigrating Nigerian men for.

We are still friends, by fire by force.

Is the OP talking about Jesus or the Silver Surfer?

It is said every year but....

I really don't mind doing a paid mini-league for 10 people...maybe more if enough people show interest.
10 pound(Or other currency equivalent) entry via pay pal.

Winner takes all.

Bimffo:
a Ray-J.. Lmaooo


Ban them for life? Baba, You kana gan oo..

This is the sports section, not the romance section.
Nobody wants to see the chats of a pederast and his lover.


I'm not sure which is even more pathetic:

1. Two grown men(one in his forties) both discussing and planning trolling strategies offline.

or

2. The grown men publishing the evidence to their collective idiocy to the internet.

They clearly need a timeout. Chelseabmw please sweep these mental midgets into the dustbin. 10 year ban should suffice.

lol only chat?
I'm suprised that one of these hediots has not done a Ray-J and released the sextape.

Chelseabmw please do the needful and ban these cretinous duo for life.

Rip

These guys are already dead.

No coming back

SIRcumalot:
Probably knows something about Benteke
Can't blame the guy we'll all do the same.

I would have liked us to have signed Delph, especially for such a pittance.

Is your signature about golden showers?

Fabian Delph is a true Nihilist.

Salute to a money grabbing mercenary.

Footballers don't give 2 shits about loyalty.

Bimffo:
I mean, decisive marking, decisive passing, Spilting the defence with through balls, and general reading of the game from defence to attack..

We all know what happened to ManCity when Yaya left for Africa Nations Cup Last season..

But Yaya doesn't defend though. Even his biggest fan boys won't deny that Yaya has a problem tracking back.

You mean you want Yaya's attacking ability and Vidal's defensive abilities in one player?

You're better off expecting Raumdeuter to start supporting Arsenal.

Bimffo:
Good.. A box to box player, that runs, runs and runs.. We have box to box players that play with the ball at their feet..

Ramires is a box to box CM, and he runs like Vidal.. We have Yaya Toure who plays as a box to box CM and don't do unnecessary runnings when its advisable to pass..

I am not saying Vidal is not a good player, what I am just saying is He is more of a Ramires than a Yaya Toure or Essien.. Yea, he is good at intercepting the ball with all his rough tackles but He is still not as effective as Yaya Toure.. And that's not the kind of player We need at Chelsea.

And if he goes to Bayern, Good for them.. At least, we have a Cuadrado to deal with, Who is also good at running ahead of the ball been distributed to him..

B4 Cuadrado joined Chelsea, he was the best thing after Party jollof, and we all liked him..

Define 'effective'

Bimffo:
Vidal is better than Ramires. Yes! But their game play is almost the same thing.. Bully the ball out of the opponents hand, then start running..

You are just giving Pirlo's credit to Vidal anyhow.. Anytime Vidal is playing against a top team, he is sitting on a Time Bomb..

See, how Modern DMs/CMs play na..

Their game is NOT the same thing....
Pep and Bayern are obsessed with keeping possession...and they are signing him.
What does that tell you?

I think your problem is failing to see that not every DM\CM plays the Busquet\Carrick\Pirlo role whose duties include dictating tempo to almost metronomic effect.

A modern DM/CM can be a deep lying playmaker (Pirlo\Busquet), a destroyer/anchorman type(makalele\song\matic), or a box to box cm(Essien\Vidal\Ramsey)

Stop conflating 'modern cm' with playmaker.

Hopefully, we have dispatched one of the more obnoxious trolls to the depths of purgatory, from whence it came.

It's time to focus on more important things.

Chelsea has had a 20 million pound bid for John Stones knocked back.

I'm not sure which is more ridiculous...bidding that amount of money for him? Or Everton acting like he is worth more?

Your thoughts?

nonsoroyalty:
So a chelsea fan on this thread added me on bbm his name is different from nairaland
This was our conversation (won't screen shot for personal reasons)

Chelsea fan: guy what is wrong with you? Stop posting nonsense on our chelsea thread

Me: sorry but I can't remember giving my pin to chelsea fans who are u?

Chelsea fan: I added u when u posted it on the barca thread

Me: so is that why u added me

Chelsea: guy u are 40 years old stop behaving like a child go take care of ur grandchildren (okay that one had me laughing)

Me: first of all am 26 not 40 lol if. And ur c*ck sucking chelsea fans can screen shot a post where I claim to be 40 ill leave ur thread

Chelsea fan: even if u are 26 all I know is that stop posting on our thread or. Ill be forced to take things personal and when I do don't blame me when misfortunes happen to u

Me: don't. Argue with chelsea the older they get the dumber they become....albert Einstein
I never knew that quote was legit until I saw u I would have loved to go on with u but u might just be another 16year old jambite posing as an internet warrior

**** this person no longer have you on his or her friendlist

Time to say goodbye grandpa.

42 year old meme composer

nonsoroyalty:
U see why u are a 13year old kid get ur fact right they took the case to court infact we won the case madrid had no proof they bought him earlier but due to franco
The court said barca will share stefano for 5yr he will play for barca the next 5yrs he will play for real madrid but just like king solomon barca said the will rather let stefano go than share him with madrid so he left
Did u know franco almost killed johan cryuff when he named his son jordi? Wen he was a barca player go buy his auto biography
And lastly u have 10ucl 32laliga most of them are with the help of francos
Without franco lemme tell u how shit u are this century

#one laliga in seven years
#one ucl in last 12years
#three copa del reys in 22years
#this is ur 4th trophyless season In the last eight years


#and finally my best part the special one 3 season in madrid 3 trophies
Guardiola 4seasons @ barca 14 throphies plus two ucl

And no am not saying guardiola>mourinho no no no
Am just showing u how shit ur club is this century w/o the help of almighty franco
[size=18pt]Believe when I say I know more about ur club than you am 42 years old by Gods grace the fact am arguing with a boy like u is because on the internet we are all equals I have been watching la liga when u were still on diaper
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There is no similarity in Ramires and Vidal's game in my opinion.

Vidal is a destroyer, and he's on of the best in the world at winning the ball and breaking up play.

Ramires is more of an all-rounder with pace, who does everything at an acceptable level, but doesn't really excel at anything.

Today's front page article on Female Brutality: https://www.nairaland.com/2457749/wife-pours-boiling-water-husband

DaisyII:
That is not illogical.Lemme leave you with jez dis,have u heard of d abducted n raped chibok boys?..


I guess not.Twaz sisters jez like me.Are you not friends with the internet?Go on n mk use f it,see how many movement we av around the world clamouring against the victimization of the women folks.(esp sexually)

Uncle,my facts are straight.

Madam, your opinion does not count as a fact.

Again, do you have any evidence to back up your claims that 9 in every 10 girl-children have been molested or sexually abused?

That dirty office though.
Even Nigerian citizens are treated as second class citizens in that place.

Applicantions for new passports are taken at the back of the building via a side enterance, off the main road, and into the basement.


The flipping basement kwa.

And the only thing to watch is NTA lol

DaisyII:
90% of every girl child has been abused or molested sexually. #MyHeartIsBleeding

Do you care to back up this frankly ludicrous statement with any proof?

standd:
Stop acting like a thick Murrafucka Nihilist
Start a thread and don't you mention me

See abuse again o.
Because I pointed out that Women are also abusive?

The Blatant Hypocrisy of Nigerian Women.