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ifyeez:
Initial WHAT?. Better be driving your car ur self oga

200k initial deposit is fair

dru23:
Sorry bro takeover

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NextProdigy:
That is not true. As long as the car is in good condition, you keep it clean and the driver has a good attitude, the ratings will be fine.

Allow me to respectfully disagree. As a 300+ 5-star trips Uber driver, I can authoritatively say that that car will not survive 30 days on either Uber or Taxify. Driver's rating too will definitely go down ... good attitude or not

MobilityExpress:
Good advice but do you remember the story of Jumia delivery guy that was killed in a residential building? So this your tip doesn’t guarantee safety, because some criminals operate from offices and buildings.

I'm not entering any building to usher out a rider, the rider comes out to me.
Let's say after all precautions taken, my riders come out and they happen to be Anini and 2 of his boys, my Kickstarter can develop fault - engine will not crank; engine can even start and die on the expressway, 2 minutes after the journey started ... etc. I have all these tricks in my hands

lovedayugo:
I need urgent and fast reply, on Uber site dey said they now accept cars from year 2000 till date, does that mean i can use my Totoya Camry 2001 evelop light for uber ? Please advice needed

Factually, yes; realistically, no

3) Most times, all you need is your common sense. Example, I had a trip request. Pick up point was Anifowoshe area just off Computer Village. On getting there, the person that requested me asked me to park, that himself and his friends are going to Agege. So I parked, and looked behind through my rear view mirror. I saw four guys, drunk and smoking hemp. They were wearing black on black, with red berets. They were carrying black bags ... I drove off and cancelled the ride. Better to err on the side of caution

2) If I get a trip request anytime from 8:30pm, I must interrogate you like SSS ...
a) Where am I picking you up from?
b) Where are we going?
c) Are we stopping over anywhere?
d) How many riders am I expecting to carry from pick up point?
e) Are any more riders joining us mid-trip?
f) I'm using google maps to navigate and I'm syncing with Uber/Taxify servers - is that okay with you?

So usually I work late evenings - till 11:00pm. Here are my own safety tips for night trip requests -
1) All requests must emanate from an office or residential building. For example, I once had a drop off at VGC around 10:30pm. On my way back to Lekki, I had a request around Ajah bus stop. I called the person to ask where he was, he told me "by the expressway". After asking how I would recognize him, I told him I was coming. When I got to the spot he described, I passed him slowly. He was dressed in jeans and tshirt, he was alone. His destination was Lekki phase 1, but where was he coming from? I just didn't feel comfortable, so I drove past him and off I went. Nasty SMSs followed a few minutes later ...

More tips coming

[quote author=Enyinne post=65965149]Hi ,Are you a lady as I can see from ur moniker ,ur gender sign as female. Kindly clarify so u wont be confusing potential partner on this forum ..

I'm an experienced driver on both app and can deliver without stories. Live on the island precisely alpha beach road. 08165757212

So I met an Uber/Taxify driver in my estate today. I had just finished from Church, I was dressed down and going to a CyberCafe nearby; when this person beckoned on me from a 2000 Toyota Corolla. "Excuse me sir, please I'm going to Gowon Estate" ... "This is Gowon Estate", I replied. "Where exactly are you going to? What Road? What Close?" That was when he took up his phone and showed me the screen ... The Uber driver app was on, the pickup address was C Close, 31 Road.

"Oh, he is an Uber driver", I told myself. Suddenly, I felt ashamed on his behalf. He was looking nothing close to neat, he looked unkempt ... like he didn't sleep at home last night. The car was just there ... interior/exterior was just manageable. His windows were wound down, the AC was not running ... on a hot (102°F) Sunday afternoon. I told myself he doesn't even know how to use his Google maps ... I gave him directions to where he was going; and wished him luck. I couldn't even introduce myself as a fellow Uber/Taxify driver ... shame catch me ...

dru23:
Stick to your driving bro .... You want 70k miles corolla smh even if I give to you the greed will not let you see road. Go to the bank and borrow money to buy a 70k miles corolla car. This is reason people don't excel in business or in life in general... funny guy

As petty as expected, can't even manage a mature discussion ...
I've met folks way richer than you ... and honestly, ... I reserve my comments

thebigkendo:
I assume you mean 2008 and above corolla.

Any corolla that meets Uber/Taxify requirements sir. You could buy a tear rubber Toyota corolla 05 in January 2006 and decide to keep it in your garage till 2018 ... mileage about 100 miles ...

Crownhouxe:
For a Toyota Corolla (2003-2006) you are barely breaking in the engine @ 70,000 miles or 112,000 kilometres if the vehicle was regularly serviced. I have read about many going well over 200,000 miles or 320,000 kilometres easy.

The exact point I'm making, sir. After all, oga partner wants to collect #40,000 per week!

dru23:
Let us be honest with ourselves here. A driver will do 12hrs + regardless of 35k or 40k rental. Please don't let us deceive ourselves. What do u think will happen if the rental is 20k per week . And you beg the driver not to over work the car. Chances are the driver will over work the car. Because he will see as a great chance to make more money and even more motivated.
So please let us honest with ourselves, so In that case why shouldn't I get the maximum rental I can when am aware that the driver will still use the car or over work the car. And most drivers don't care about the car. They drive the car anyhow because it is not their car. Once the cars finally breaks down, they just dump it and move on to next. Even if you treat the driver with care and caution. Sometimes you still have to remind the drivers to do the most basic things in the car. For them to even check oil of the car in the morning, they wouldn't do it. Coz it's not there car so why would I collect 35k, when am sure that they will make more than they deliver.
I said it again and again, partners that are giving out there grade A or tokunbo cars for less than 40k. Don't come and cry on the forum that a driver as finish your car. Because I will not have pity for such people. I will not even blame the driver at all. Because you have been warned and either you refuse to listern greed or common sense will not let you rest. " A word is enough for the wise"

And if a driver is not happy, he or she should go to the bank to borrow money or ask family and friends for money. Better yet ogataxi is doing hp for corolla 05 for 2m. And their terms is that you have to use their app. Than you can find out the true meaning of slavery work..

You said it all sir ... Grade A tokunbo car! Personally, I will do #40,000 per week rental for a Toyota corolla with mileage less than 70,000 miles. Car owner will service/maintain the car and handle major repairs; while I'll fuel and do minor repairs. Fair enough, but it has to be grade A tokunbo!

chinchunchu:
An agreement a partner on this platform made and ask a driver to sign...despirate drivers should beware of this...

Aaaaaaahhhhhh! Some people don't fear God

Carshopper:
So when I die in the hospital, wetin go happen

The money goes to your next of kin, sir

+ about #15,000 offline trips; last week

I've spent one year now on Uber/Taxify. The truth is the work has gotten more competitive ... I still gross #100,000+ every week; but I have to spend an average of 12 hours on the road everyday!
It's not a lot of drivers that can do that without crashing their car one day.

#35,000 per week rental is the reasonable rental this season, with the driver handling fueling and minor repairs. Owner should take care of the servicing of the car and major repairs.

Drivers should stay away from hp. The reason is simple, driver's cash flow can't handle major issues that are bound to come up with the car. What I advise drivers to do is to set aside for themselves, a "car purchase" fund. Open an Alat account, set it so you won't be able to draw it till about 18 months time, and start paying in #20,000 every week. Even if you are dying in the hospital, the bank will not release the money to you until the maturity date. #20,000 per week multiplied by 75 weeks is #1.5 million! Enough funds for a direct tokunbo car, grade A++ ...

My 2 Kobo though ...

Enyinne:
Pls can someone help me with procedure to get a tinted permit for my car. It's urgently needed. Thanks

I can link you up with a policewoman at Kam Salem house who will help you do it. You go Roger am sha ...
Quote me with your email so I can send her details

dru23:
Yes I do understand your point without bias. To me that his a bad deal. The maximum for a rental for a tokunbo car or Nigerian grade A used should be 40k. Especially if the cars are maybe, just maybe starting from 05 upwards and it's a 2.0liter to 1.8liter below
Now owners should be responsible too and be fair. Maybe the owner is new to the business. For me personally I wouldn't give any drivers those conditions.
Now I speak for myself and am sure people will agree with me. My cars are tokunbo from 2007 upwards. The cars are fix and ready for uber. My conditions is drivers pay oil change and anything below 5k drivers are responsible. Which is fair enough but some crazy drivers will wait till the expenses is above 5k to complain . So in that case I will just tell them to bring 5k to cover the cost. To me it is fair enough.

Fair enough! Dru23 making good sense here

EmpireGroup:
We already tested Monday to Saturday and Sunday was seen as best...

Just an hour of servicing... We have 10 auto technicians;
2 vulcanizers
3 rewires
5 mechanics

And requests are easily seen from our workshop after servicing.

Monday afternoon - 12 noon to 3 pm is a better day/time to service

darmilolah:
So many gbegiri fleet manager. Service car on Sunday.

Sunday Na 20k to 30k things ... sometimes 40k sef ...

darmilolah:
So many gbegiri fleet manager. Service car on Sunday.

Sunday Na 20k to 30k things ... sometimes 40k sef

slavemerchant:
My car ac stopped working, can i use it to work tomorrow before fixing it on monday

An Uber/Taxify without a functioning ac? On a Saturday? Trust me, your rating will not survive the experience

Andalucia:
Hello!

Thanks for your input.

Could have made your point without the sarcasm though (writing skills? I don't understand what you're about).

Rental won't cut it. Each to his own please (might sound cocky but the numbers never lie...mostly and I've run them).

I will get a Principal and very soon too.

To every other well meaning commentator, I'm not towing the rental path so kindly stay your comments relative to that (and if you can avoid throwing shades and/or insults at my person or intent, I'll be much obliged. Like I keep reiterating, no one is being forced to give heed to my senseless proposal).

Regards.

I need to bring out my notebook, pen and dictionary; and learn English (composition)

Drunice23:
They should also ban the people like slavermerchant and other guys too. It takes two to people to fight. There was so much negative comments from both side. This is so sad, the level of ignorance and childisness on the thread...

See? Only dru23 will refer to the "slavemerchant" moniker as "slavermerchant". dru23 and drunice23 are twelve and a dozen ...

Demeanor:
I have watched with dismay as this thread has switched from being educative, to being a platform for attacks by members of the forum.

We kept quiet hoping you will all be mature enough to control your posts and go back to the original objective of what the thread title is.

Sadly I can see that it is not working.

to salvage this thread I have decided to take measures.


Henceforth any one who derails this thread from its original purpose will get a lengthy ban

Any one who insults another member will receive a lengthy ban accross all sections of nairaland

Any one who spams this thread with adverts will receive a lengthy ban accross all sections.

Please let us be civil and matured in all our dealings.

I have read the riot act, waiting for the scape goats.


Supermoderator.

About time, sir

olaboy1:
Stop comparing real estate assets that appreciate in value astronomically to Uber cars that lose 50% of their values within 1yr.

OK, so how about this analogy?
Let's ask ourselves some questions:
1) the Danfo driver, how much is delivery per day? Probably 2,500 to 5,000 per day

2) how much does the Danfo, driver turnover in a day? Probably 10,000 to 15,000 per day

3) does it make sense to assume that, at worst, this our Danfo driver will earn for himself, at the end of the day, minimum, as much as he delivers to the owner; after fueling and paying off the conductor as well as his 'deliver' for the day

4) is this really so hard to comprehend?

chloride6:
And how do you determine who contributes the major share?

The only reason why an investor doesn't drive Uber himself is because his time is worth more than he may make during the same period driving.

A labour on site makes upwards of 2000 in a day. Bricklayers get 3000. It is to be expected that a driver makes more than that.

I think drivers are the largest contributors of resources in the e hailing business. I plan to drive Uber so I can understudy the business well for future investment, because e hailing hasn't even reached 1/10th of it's potential . Believe me e hailing will create billionaires.

But I dont see myself driving Uber for more than 2 months. No offense and all respect to all the hard working driver here , I troway salute but Uber drivers are seriously underpaid. Making 10k a day after deliver and fuel is war except in weekends.

That is 300k a month. 300k a month for all my time? 12 hours a day?

Also do not forget that there are no prospects of promotion with the job. A 12 hour job leaves you with little space for yourself and for development.

Basically, you may be permanently confined to the driver's seat for the foreseeable future if not careful.

The secret ingredient in Uber is the driver, if it is it the not the driver , Uber would just grade the car once and for all and assume that the car was all that was needed for a smooth trip. But no, it is not so.

Uber has always marketed it's business as an alternative to a conventional office job not as a subordinate or inferior job. Remember the it's an office with a different view advert. This requires considerable labour resources in terms of intelligence and strength.

Can a lazy man put in 12 hours of work? And if you think labour is labour, find one aboki trailer driver and give him your car to drive.

Bottom line, labour is not labour.

And your 2 million CAR is the second most important thing in the e haling business. Lagos yellow cabs had existed as well as car hires all around town before Uber came. So why the craze for Uber? Even people who can't afford it want a piece of this luxurious service.

I'll tell you what makes it special, a driver with a semblance of class and poise who can engage you in a conversation in a nice environment.

So on point sir!
Good analogy, I rent a 3 bedroom office apartment from my landlord for #1,200,000=00 a year, then set up my management consulting firm. Say CBN, Access Bank, Royal Exchange Group, Dangote PLC etc all give me consulting projects during the course of the year, leading me to turnover #100,000,000=00 in profit by the end of the year. Question - would that be a taboo? For me (driver) to earn more than my landlord (partner)? The excess cash flow generated, is it not a direct result of the hours of effort I put in?

olaboy1:
This is getting interesting. I think drivers should be grateful that someone is willing to put 2m Naira down to employ his service so he could feed his family.

You should go and see how that man made that 2m Naira before running your mouth. Stop been ungrateful in this period of recession.
I have never heard of an employee making more money than his/her employer, it doesn’t matter whether it’s e-hailing business.

The sharing formula should be 70/30 after Uber fee, fuel, data, car wash and miscellaneous.

Investor takes 70%, driver takes 30%.

Investor puts 50% aside to recoup his capital and car maintenance.
Investor takes 20% profit for his upkeep.

If investor decides to fix his money in any bank instruments, he is assured of his initial capital at the end of the year. People go into business so they can recoup their capital and even re-capitalize with a higher margin.

By the way why are partners not opting for percentage, that way everyone will share the burden of downtime, more like EARN AS YOU GO.

Best ask @Gazzuzz and @Carshopper - it's best you balance the interests of both the car owner and the driver. This is the model that will work best to everyone's interest

timifakay:
I am neither a car owner nor driver on any e-hailing platform and have no intentions of being either.
All this driver must have take home that's greater than what he remits to car owner or fleet manager is greed.
How many people here who work for companies/organizations (whether big or small) can confidently say their monthly income is greater than 50% of what they make for their employers?
The only reason people are thinking and coming out to say the driver should earn more money than car owner is because he has total access all resources in the business.
In every situation I know or have heard of, investor/ employer/business owner makes more money than any employee.
Every driver that wants to take the same amount of money home with car owner is directly setting himself up for failure because that means he has to make atleast three times the amount he remits; with each third going into car running/maintenance, car owner ROI and driver income.
Example: Weekly delivery of 25k, shared maintenance or repair clause and driver wants to earn atleast 25k too means.
Weekly remit =25k
Car running/ maintenance contribution= 25k
Driver take home =25k+X
Total = 75k+X
After 3 months max one of car or driver or both will be unavailable for a greater part of a week and driver won't be able to meet up for with that week's payment and this will be commencement of problem because owner thinks his remit his small and he shouldn't have any complain, driver will think owner is inconsiderate due to his sense of entitlement which in the first place led him to believe he should earn more than car owner.
Driver will eventually suffer greatest loss because he will lose car - source of income, which will lead him to signing a worse contract on next offer.
Vehicle owner still has his car, in a worst case scenerio of car total loss he gets compensation, if driver dies he may still be the one to get claim for driver's life and pass whatever he wants on to driver's family.

Any driver who thinks the value on his life his greater than the cost price of vehicle invested by car owner should claim he has terminal disease or was kidnapped for his family members and see how much they will raise within a week if it is more than the cost of the car take it and go and buy car, then become a driver partner. If not, be humble and contented with a reasonable amount that you can easily replicate monthly.

I am not jollof, I can't make everyone happy.

I disagree with the premise(s)

Daveonoja:
Driver needed ... Camry 2001 20K weekly...but with clause... driver wld have to pick owners wife from ilupeju to Magoo Magodo where she works everyday and back home after work...5days a week....interested drivers shld buzz me 08036065800... whatsapp only for more terms and conditions

These terms are killing ...