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I am going to open a thread on the topic "the Holy Quran on the death of Jesus", there i will be expecting you.
As for the christians, i am expecting their respond,

I am going to open a thread on the topic "the Holy Quran on the death of Jesus", there i will be expecting you.
As for the christians, i am expecting their respond,

Nezan:
I can see that you guys are yet to resolve the issue of Jesus' death, so no need coming here to make baseless posts.

i want you to give me evidence that jesus died on the cross, not just a statement but 'evidences' from the bible. What i belief is that he did not die on the cross but was saved and later died at the ripe age of 120.
You do claim that it has been prophesised that he is going to be hanged but you have forgotten that there are prophesises that he is going to be saved. Pls kindly explain to me in what way jesus was similar to jonas in matt. 12:40 and luke 11:29,30.

Is there no christian here? I said i want to know the attribute that is in jesus christ which qualifies him to be a God.

Know that jesus is not the only son of God. The sense in which jesus calls himself the son of God in the bible can also be used by others. The bible also recognise many sons of God in which if we accept the bible to be true concerning it, then the bible would be contradicting itself, but if not, you are rejecting the word of God. In exodus 4:22, israel is my first born son. David is my son, this day i have begotten him (psalms 2:7) solomon is my son and i am his father. (1 chr. 28:6) God loved us so much that we are called His son (1 john 3:1).

abuzola999:
The Quran mentioned the coming, i don't mean to intrude sorry

it dosent matter. All i need is that you should provide the verse and the chapter. Its clear and i have said it that jesus is dead. What ch 4:157 is refuting is the death by crucifixion and not the act. 'Salbu' is means of killing by hanging on the cross. Check your dictionary for the meaning of 'crucifixion' in english. 'Qatlu' is also a form of killing which is murder. 'maata' is used in arabic to mean a natural death and this is what is promised to jesus in ch 3:55.

olabowale:
@Niyi53: « #44 on: Today at 03:33:54 PM »  Since Allah did not say he was killed (mait) on earth, then we know the issue of death has not occurred to Jesus, yet. We also know that Allah says Jesus is going to be returned. If therefore you need understanding of the two verses, you got to go into the tafsir and hadith on each! There is no place that the Prophet (AS), the sahaba (RA) and the two following generations said or slightly incinuated that Jesus died or migrated! Please stay within Quran, Ahadith, Tafsir and dont be among those who will taste jahannam.


You now sound as if you do not accept Isra wa Miraj, both in the Quran?


I do not have a different opinion other than what Muhammad (AS) says, what his Creator says. Dont be confused my brother; Allah descended Adam and his mate from Jannah to earth (ardi) not because He debased Adam (AS), for Adam is a people of Paradise. But because Allah says to the Angels that he was going to create a viceroy of the earth, yet Adam was created in Heaven, then made to live in Paradise, until he was sent to the earth.

When Muhammad (AS) says that Isa bin Maryam was raised up to Allah, the ahadith says it was alive, body and soul! When Muhammad says his own night journey was body and soul, this is how Abu Bakr gained the Title "siddiq" (the truth believer), while others left islam, though Muhammad demostrated he was on the property called masjid Aqsa, and the returning caravan to Makka testified to his presence at night in the resting station he said he encountered them!

jazakumulla. I am very grateful. Know that the holy quran mentions clearly the death of jesus, eg:5:116, 3:55. In ch 16:21, God says that all that which is been worshiped(called upon or regarded as god) besides Allah,is dead and not living. Jesus according to the holy quran is among those who are been worshiped and therefore is dead. The holy quran did not mention the second coming of jesus and I WILL BE EXPECTING YOU TO PRODUCE THE VERSE WHICH PREDICT HIS COMING IF YOU DONT ACCEPT MY VIEW. It is the tradition that talks about his second coming. Know that i believe the miraj and isra of the holy prophet.

Nezan:
Why is it that these brainless muslims are fond of spewing out non-sensical posts.

We Christians never deny the death of Jesus, it was through His death that He gave us everlasting life, and ascended up to the Father.

On the contrary, it is you muslims who have been denying the death of Jesus, claiming that He never died on the cross, but was substituted by Judas (such a funny unsubstantiated lie).

Lest I forgot, I read somewhere that you were an ahmadiyya movement follower? so you can educate olabowale on the different sects in Islam.

it seems you are not getting my message. My belief is that jesus did not die on the cross, instead he was saved and thereafter migrated to india in search of the lost tribes of israel. He died at the ripe age of 120.
The historian Gwatkin says: "either christ is in the fullest sense divine, or else he is not. If he is, the christians worship two gods: if he is not, they worship a creature. Either way there is no escape from the charge of polytheism"

Whether you accept or not, jesus is dead. This is something supported by the Bible. Visit www.alislam.org/topics/jesus/

Know that jesus is dead and his tomb has been discovered in khanyar street, sirnagar, kashmir, india. For more info visit www.alislam.org/topics/jesus/

Know that jesus is dead and his tomb has been discovered in khanyar street, sirnagar, kashmir, india. For more info visit www.alislam.org/topics/jesus/

Know that jesus is dead and his tomb has been discovered in khanyar street, sirnagar, kashmir, india. For more info visit www.alislam.org/topics/jesus/

Olabowale.
Pls know that the holy quran did not mention that jesus was raised to heaven, it only says that 'Allah raised him to Himself'. Allah is not confined to a particular place that you would say that a person was raised to Him. The word 'rafa'ha' as used in different places in the holy Quran refers to spiritual exaltation when God is the subject. See chapter 94,ch 7:176,24:36,56:3. Etc.
The holy prophet has also used the word 'warfa'ni' meaning (and raise me) in his supplication in his prayer but he was not raised physicaly but spiritualy. Hazrat umar says Allah will 'rafa'ha' (raise) some people by means of this Quran and He will also abase some. Since all have been reading the quran there has been no raising. The funny thing about the translation is that when the word is used in regards to the Holy Prophet or other prophets, it is translated to mean spiritual uplift but if it is used in regards to jesus, they take it to mean a physical raising. So therefore read the holy quran and ponder over it and dont be misled. For more info visit www.alislam.org

Pls know that there is a difference between a fairytale and a true story. If you read the book of history, you just dont read it but you have to read it and study it very well. Know that jesus DID NOT travell to kashmir before the event of crucifixion. It was after the event that he travelled.
I am a muslim and i am a member of the ahmadiyya sect.
It is not met that we rely on a false story and think that the truth is gone. Been ignorant of the truth does not falsify it. So therefore try to make more findings about yus asaph and also try to know about the amadis view concerning it by asking them or reading their books and not the books their opponents wrote about them. If i want to know about you i ask you personaly or a true friend of yours or a sermo closer to you cos if i ask your enemy about you, you should not expect that he says the right thing . The prove of the sun is the sun.  For more info www.alislam.org

Hello guys!the tomb of Jesus has been discovered in khanyar street,sirnagar india.(for more info, go to this website: www.alislam.org)
Pls you christians why dont you move closer to the muslims and ask them concerning their religion before you start hurling abuse on them? The muslims are talking about Jesus based on what the christians told them.

Hello guys!the tomb of Jesus has been discovered in khanyar street,sirnagar india.(for more info, go to this website: www.alislam.org)
Pls you christians why dont you move closer to the muslims and ask them concerning their religion before you start hurling abuse on them? The muslims are talking about Jesus based on what the christians told them.

Hello guys!the tomb of Jesus has been discovered in khanyar street,sirnagar india.(for more info, go to this website: www.alislam.org)
Pls you christians why dont you move closer to the muslims and ask them concerning their religion before you start hurling abuse on them? The muslims are talking about Jesus based on what the christians told them.

The god you are claiming to have given his son out for redeemtion of sin seems to be merciless and crooked. He says all souls shall bear their sins themselves, But he is forcing his son, who is not willing to sacrifice his self,because of others. This is an injustice to his son. Moreover he said he can forgive,why cant he does so without the help of any one?
Important note:do you know that the sins which you said Jesus has redeemed you from is still not removed? You said it was the sins of adam and eve and the punishment which was given to them is still been served by every body,even when you were given birth to, your mother cannot say that the process is easy, nor your father or you your self cannot say that you are not striving for your own livelihood.
Therefore,a christian should pls explain to me the sin which jesus has redeemed him from.

The Jesus whom we muslims revere is not the Jesus who died on the cross. GOD said He loves mercy and not sacrifice, why are you now trying to force upon God what He doesnt like?moreover I would like to ask the christians whether those who were before Jesus were sinners and if there was no righteous person among then?

Look,God is not in need of any sacrifice before he can forgive sins. All what God wants is that people themselves should repent, leave their sins and pray to Him for mercy. GOD has very kindly told us that:but if a wicked man turns away from all his sins which he has committed and keeps all my statues and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.(Ezekiel 18:21)
i desire mercy and not sacrifice (matt. 9:13, 12:7). How can you know what God wants, when he says this?
Moreover what sin are you having that he came to redeem from you that those before Jesus were not redeemed from?

Pls lets not use offensive words for their god least they start abusing your own God.you know that this is the Quranic teaching.

Can somebody pls tell me the attributes in Jesus which makes him a God.

Hello guys! There is no abrogation nor contradiction in the Holy Quran. Lets judge this with the Quran itself and the Bible,and lets not include the writting or sayings of any one except the book of tradition of the both religion,because the books should be able to steak for itself .
Firstly, provide the verse that infer that there is abrogation in the holy Quran. As for the bible,the following verses points its pollution;'they have transgressed the law,changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant' (isaiah 24:5) 'when there is a change of priesthood, there must also be a change of the law'(heb. 7:12).
Then as for contradiction, you present the verses that are contradicting each other from the Quran and i present those that are contradicting in the Bible which goes thus: Jesus was made accursed (Gal. 3:13) Jesus was not made a curse (1. Cor. 12:3)
Jesus is the only begotten son of God (John 3:16) David is only begotten son of God (Psalms 2:7)

The plan of the jews is to kill jesus christ because they think he is a false prophet. According to their law, a person who dies on the cross is an accursed of God(deut 21:23), and Jesus is not. If therefore the christian accept that jesus died on the cross, then the jews would be right for denying him, if they are not,then the christians should give an explanation for this.