₦airaland Forum

author=5thElement post=66395900]

Honestly your disjointed epistle was hardly legible and I made little sense of it. However understand this:

1. If you really are a Christian (which i hope not for your own sake) and you represent the average mindset of a Yoruba Christian (which I doubt) then the OP's prediction is likely to come to pass in 20 years not even up to 50.

2.Ogbeni SW is part of my country (at least for now) which means I have a stake. If e too pain you go slap the nearest soldier wey you see for road. Funny enough Igbos have always meant better for you than you have meant for yourselves. Did a SW Rep not raise alarm last week at the NASS that up to 500 Fulani militants were camped in the bushes somewhere in his state? Now Oluwo is no longer an Oba he is now an Emir but you can't connect the dots for sake of your tomorrow, instead you are here fantasizing about Igbos

3. The SE/SS has never been a priority of the jihadists. Maybe SS oil but not our land. Even before the colonial masters came they never nursed any imperialistic ambition in our direction like they had for your land and people. The only time there was combat was when a contingent of fulani-hausa soldiers wandered and mistakenly ran into Ezza warriors from present day Ebonyi and was torn apart. They are trying to use Islam to infiltrate Ebonyi today but it will fail because it can never take root in igboland like it has in yorubaland

SW coastline belongs to the Sokoto caliphate as far as they are concerned. Awo promised the north a corridor to the sea before the civil war to avoid them declaring war on you too. You are terribly deluded and badly uninformed. History has shown that the only reason why the north is able to feel tough in Nigeria is because of you guys.

Truth is friggin bitter but like medicine you go swallow am last last

5thElement:
Oo ni laakaye. Ti o ba ni laakaye ni o ye ki o ye e wipe kii se ori thread ti omo Igbo shi lati fi maa soro si awa Yoruba loye ki o ti ma so gbogbo eleyi.


Ti o ba ni laakaye ni, o ye ki o mo wipe a ni lati koko le kolokolo lo na ki a to ma ba adiye wi.


If you don't understand the proverb in that last statement give it to an interpreter ki o tunmo e fun e.


You aren't the only Yoruba who is a Christian on this forum, mind you.

Ti a ba ta ara ile eni ni opo a o le ri ra pada ni owon. (Another proverb)


Awa wi tai wi o wa so wipe ki Yoruba ronu. Se iwo ronu bayi. Ti o ba ronu jinle wa ri wipe awon omo Igbo fe fi esin ko eyin omo Yoruba si ara won.


We know the ploy of the recalcitrant Yoruba bashers, especially of Igbo origin on this forum.


Their constant use of the phrase " Yoruba Moslems" gives them away as being jealous of the peace that exists in Yorubaland and so, they want to employ the use of divide and conquer tactic.


The Oluwo of Iwo land should be deposed and the crown given to someone else since he doesn't want to be the Oluwo anymore.


That's my submission. And if you're going to make your point, you should open another thread for it. Latching yourself to this thread to insult your fellow Yorubas because of religion shows that YOU are the traitor and you've allowed this fool of an op who despises everything Yoruba to convince you that Yorubas are indeed different because of religion.


You can see the way they've been jumping up and down since the news broke and you thought he actually opened this thread to sympathize with you.


O din ojo kan leni ti awon omo Igbo, awon irankiran maa te ni ile Yoruba. Wo n je, wo n mu, wo n yo faalala ni ile Yoruba bi idun ti o bo sori aatan, won wa n yo suti ete si wa.

Iwo wa nn gbeja won, nitori esin abi nitori omo Igbo ti o n fe abi? Se omo Yoruba to daju ni iwo yii sha?


The Rwandan war between the Hutu and the Tutsi will be child's play when sh1t hits the fan.

Let them continue. Je ki won maa baa lo.

Rwanda ni Limpopo ko.

Blackmailing Yoruba Christians by questioning their yorubaness is an expired tactic. They now know that Igbos have never been and will never be their problem.

You think they have not noticed how quiet you lot are when Fulani herdsmen are inching deeper and deeper into the SW?

You think they don't know that it is you people that have done the desires of the caliphate and continually damage relations with their southern neighbours.

You think that the issue of the arbitrary scrapping of the 1000+ year old Yoruba traditional royal office structure by this Oluwo of Iwo clown can be swept under the carpet because you play the worn-out "Igbo are the enemies" card?


Your eye go soon clear

BishopMagic:
First, this thread is not about culture but the seething socio-political quakes that the SW is currently experiencing.
I beg the Mods to leave this thread here as what I am about to post here are relevant to politics board.

Since Oba Akanbi decided to dump the traditions and culture of his ancestral throne for that of a Muslim title similar to what pervades in the Islamic fiefdoms of northern Nigeria, a lot of negative reactions have trailed the move. The Amir is not however facing condemnations only as he has also staunch supporters among his people who see Akanbi's declaration of all Yoruba land as an Emirate under his supreme authority as a welcome development. Akanbi's supporters, as you may rightly guess, are Yoruba Muslims.

Akanbi, did not only declare all Yoruba land an Emirate under his command but also put his purported first class title under the Supreme authority of the Sultan of Sokoto. He has not only abdicated his ancestral throne but swore subservience to Sokoto. His declaration of all Yoruba land being an Emirate under his control automatically transmuted all authority and sovereignty of Odua to Sokoto.

Akanbi's mainly naive Yoruba Muslim supporters, also stated that with this move, Emir Akanbi will be the office from which other Amirs will be appointed across the breath of Yoruba land and that in due time, the traditional stools of authority in Yoruba land will be phased out by the Muslim Emirship.

It is thus glaring that why these Muslim Yorubas support Akanbi's foolishness is driven by their own desire to see that all traditional and cultural stools in Yoruba land are replaced with that of the Islamic system thereby barring non-Muslim Yorubas from occupying any elevated position of power. But naively, these bunch of misguided fools fail to factor that the authority to appoint an Amir in Yoruba land will be decided by Sokoto and not by them.

I can easily predict the bickering and skirmishes that will arise among Yoruba Muslims as to who is to be appointed as an Amir among them. It is from here they will carry themselves to Sokoto for the Sultan to deliberate and appoint among themselves a Muslim leader. In the future, the same Yoruba Muslims out of constant bickering and skirmishes over the Emirship tussle will demand Sokoto to appoint a Fulani to rule them and from there, the Yoruba culture will vanish and the people will forever be enslaved by Sokoto.

This is what will happen. And it will happen within 50yrs.

You don finish work. Knockout piece. Who get ear make e hear

OP - Igbos are emotionally driven people and we have an almost insanely high level of loyalty. That's how God made us. It hasn't worked well for us politically because the British caged us into a country where people are generally like vultures without loyalty but God knows how to keep blessing us

When the military annulled MKO Abiola's election, brave Igbo sons like Obioha (Abacha revoked his bank's license), Olisa Agbakoba, Ndubuisi Kanu, Chima Ubani risked all and stood by him even though no Igbo son or daughter stood to gain anything.

Our support for Jonathan was attacked by our vulture like compatriots who felt we should have jumped on the APC bandwagon and betrayed him. Despite the fact that Jonathan did NOTHING for the SE and focused on appeasing the North and South West, Igbos stuck by him and history has been very kind to us in just 3 short years it is obvious we were right to support him for the greater good of everybody.

Abeg we are who we are ... Umu Chineke

Onenaira1:
I didn't want to speak on the Buhari challenge but if this is the best BMC could do to defend Buhari against this challenge then this is truly sad. 3 years in office and all you can boast of is predominately incomplete highways/roads. Are you niggas serious?

Question: WTF have Buhari and his administration been doing with the billions in loans they keep getting?
PDP are thieves but they ain't got shit on APC. APC it's obvious una are the Don of corruption/looting. My Hod this shit is beyond sad

Buhari has borrowed N11 Trillion in three years and this is the best that BMC can showcase. Buhari is the worst president Africa has ever seen after Idi Amin

abc115:
Abuja Runway Initiated, Completed within record time under Buhari Govt

The govt just patched the runway. You should be showing projects started and completed

abc115:
Fashola Audu Ogbeh Inspect The Ongoing Construction Of Loko Oweto Bridge Over River Benue In Nasarawa And Benue States

Continued Project....and Ongoing

http://www.pwh.gov.ng/galary/gallary_thankgiven.php

Big lie. Na Jonathan project that he commenced in 2013

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.channelstv.com/2013/05/21/jonathan-approves-n30b-for-loko-oweto-bridge-project/amp/

Special status my butt. Didnt these peeps make noise for ages that they wanted restructuring and regional integration? After enjoying heavy infrastructural investments by the FG for almost hundred years which they are enjoying they still want special status when they can't even provide pipe borne water in the state for themselves. Big joke!

Yet zombies go wan tell me say Tinubu was able to acquire his airline, nation newspaper, TVC, etc from his salary as accountant at Mobil.

nwabobo:
So Fulani has a Sarki(King) in South West?

Caliphate loading.....

Dey there na. Their obas are also converting to Emirs

Tinubu wey Buhari chop mugu in 2015. For Buhari to chop you mugu then you must be a champion mugu

Hmmm

BankeSmalls:
He isn't Igbo, just an impostor. He should be praying to be Igbo in his next life.

I am not surprised

igbodefender:
Igbos, make Buhari win in 2019, get Igbo Presidency in 2023.

What rubbish. The same useless Buhari or another one?

Even if he wasn't a failure do you think Yorubas, Tinubu and Osinbajo will leave it for you? Wake up man

gidgiddy:
Stop talking like an ignorant person. Theres a big difference between IGR and GDP.

Assuming that the these 5 states were to become Biafra tomorow

Abia state as an Oil producing state would control its oil
Imo as sn Oil producing state would control its oil fields
Anambra would control its 2 trillion cubic of gas as well as its Oil fields in Aynamelum, Ogbaru and Otu-Ocha
Ebonyi would control its huge solid mineral deposits such as Gympsum, Limestone, Phosphates etc
And Enugu would control its Coal and Oil (Enugu is one of the few places on Earth where Oil and Coal sit side by side

The potential of these states are huge if they were independent ,however, they do not control their resources. The federal government takes more out of them than it gives.

The money from minerals and Oil and Gas would just be jara. The money from the VAT and Companies Income Tax that Abuja is currently collecting will be huge

I am sorry for SW

Meanwhile check out Anambra

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No mind them. Yet they can't provide pipe borne water for themselves despite borrowing for future generations to pay

post=66221424:
My apology

I ga di. Ezigbo mmadu

aribisala0:
Taa! gbafue

Eze Ndi iberibe 1 of osogbo

aribisala0:
Anambra are generally know as Onye amaru akukwo so no surprises there

Si ebea puo! anyi nwe higher academic results ka Ndi SW

post=66221137:
You changed another moniker to pretend as if you are from east, how about Ogun state developments Ogun recently borrowed $350 million, yet to see what they are doing with the huge loan, their purported Igr can't fund projects in the state , Lagos with high IGR and with a landmass of 3,345km, has the largest debt burden among all states. The state’s debt stock is 35.61% of the country's foreign borrowings. You guys should stop deceiving yourselves.

Read what he posted again

aribisala0:
Netherlands is not the second largest producer of food

Oh boy go and read up

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4863106/amp/The-hi-tech-future-farming-Netherlands.html

https://www.hollandtradeandinvest.com/key-sectors/agriculture-and-food

0monnak0da:
The SE people are always quick to label the North as "parasites" depending on oil for existence but is this nt true for the SE as well?

Recently released figures of IGR show the SE performance to be very low when it comes to IGR with the most significant paart of its budget based of federal allocations.
Infact Ogun state has nore IGR than every single one of the SE states COMBINED.

1. OP the biggest parasites are the SW and the north. Despite receiving 90% of Nigerian infrastructure and SS/SE oil money they are still backward, heavily in debt and still cannot generate enough to pay salaries. Besides the massive FG investments to aid agriculture like irrigation projects and dams all over the SW as well as industrial investments like Nigerian Machine Tools Limited in Osogbo your region has been and still is an unproductive drain pipe. To whom much is given (oil money) much is expected. Touting Osun IGR when civil servants in that state almost rioted and killed themselves at a place where free cartons of indomie was being shared last year is a terrible shame. You owe salaries for years but IGR is an achievement We are different sha

2. Moderate IGR in places like Anambra is a deliberate policy to avoid stifling businesses with ridiculous taxes like Lagos does and we generally have have better quality of life than people in Lagos do. Willie tried it but the people let him know it was counterproductive so he adjusted a bit. That's leadership with a human face

Obi1kenobi:
The SE has to do better though in establishing industries (we have low agricultural potential since landmass is small, and we have less minerals than other regions). And has to attract its sons to invest in their homeland. And has to play their politics right to attract more Federal infrastructure.

1.Netherlands is the 2nd largest producer of food after the USA and it is just 44,000 square kilometres in size compared to SE which is 41,000 square kilometres in size. All this talk about landmass is outdated and archaic. It's all about technology now

2. Please what is the "right" politics that Igbo should play? The kissing of arse Joe Igbokwe type? Are we not part of Nigeria? Is it okay for the north and South West to continue marginalizing us and starving us of FG infrastructure and investments while they continually pour oil money into their regions?

3. This is 2018 and you are still hyping mineral resources? The SE needs investments in infrastructure, technology and human resources.

mekaboy:
Bringing someone to wreck havoc because you want to be president is not a good idea. Because he must have destroyed your reputation before then.

Anyhow Tinubu is the loser

OP - don't be deceived by that narrative o. There is an understanding between the north and southwest that osinbajo or another Yoruba will rule after buhari's tenure. Tinubu eye dey that seat and Buhari no send Tinubu at all and would rather one of his boys like Fashola or Fayemi their group. That's why all Tinubu older paddy men like Mamora and Lanre Edun have been kept faaaaar from the honey pot in Abuja.

I don see their game from far.

Onijagidijagan:
It built Nigeria

It paid Nigerian workers salaries.

it built capital projects

It built Lagos long before that igbo politician called it a no man's land in d 50s

It built the crude oil exploration companies bf syphoning crude oil.

Amongst many others.

1. It did not pay Nigerian salaries it helped pay Western region salaries

2. Name one capital project it built

3. Name the Igbo politician that said it in the 50s. (Fake news)

Tinubu is eating your future in SW but propaganda and tribalism is covering your eyes

ycat:
Bury yourself anyway you want but I won't even try checking anything, because I know its either planted on Google or it's something like that. I've thrown out the challenge for years for someone to tell us where oil is being drilled and the company drilling it, but nothing was forthcoming, so that is already settled.

I saw your post calling onijagidijagan an immigrant in Lagos, if you could call a Yoruba an immigrant in Lagos, is there any lie you can't tell? And if that's a joke, then the oil is probably a joke too.

What a cowardly cop-out. Too scared to Google for yourself? Okay keep lying to yourself while Lagos is buried in trash. Bye

Onijagidijagan:
Our "Oyel" money??
it was Cocoa and other agricultural produce that was used to developed Lagos frm d beginning, Before d discovery of oil in Lagos

Joke apart are you insinuating Igbo people really have crude oil?

What did Cocoa build? List them