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jollymizzle:
there was always something fundamentally wrong with the IPOB ideology.the igbo culture doesn't value respect as much as the yorubas, didn't encourage humility like the hausas and this was a big problem. diplomacy is the most valuable tool recognized in negotiations today. diplomacy doesn't say you shouldn't hate,or kill, it says you have to be reasonable, capable of restraint,and flexible, able and willing to appeal to the other sides sensibilities . diplomacy is virtually non existent in igbo culture and that adversely affected the fight. many things kanu and ipob did were just downright distasteful, unnecessary and in bad faith.like kanu, the igbo youths were drawn to braggadocio, they were tact less as you would have noticed,they never listened. listened in the sense that they were so arrogant they believed they were never wrong. they loved kanu for his insults to the yorubas and hausas, they loved him not because of what they wanted to accomplish but because he could dehumanize us in every way they dreamed. they lost focus.their fight shouldn't have been to trample us but to better their lots, either in nigeria or in biafra. what happened when the python came? , they scattered. self-doubt may be generally bad but if you aren't flexible,you end up becoming a tyrant. Kanu and ipob never listened to suggestions, they did things their way and believed no one e could question them. kanu as a leader should have not been so arrogant to dismiss advice from elders. he should have known that other people's opinions matter too. he kept insulting and annoying the rest of the county. no one was able to slow him down even the elders from his region weren't spared. Gani Adam's always submitted to the elders, that's why the Yoruba nation rallied to him when obasanjo imprisoned him. kanu believed Althouse who didn't completely agree with him were against him and in the end, almost everyone who mattered stood against him. igbos need a leader who listens, not some power drunk scum. the anambra election boycott order was the last straw, I'm sure many elders reached out to him to reconsider but he refused.

1. There is a clear difference here. Yoruba elders declared disenchantment with Nigeria when IBB annulled MKO Abiola's victory. Dr. Fasehun formed OPC and Gani joined. Later Gani fell out with Fasehun (who he called a sellout). Gani took his elders struggle to a new violent level. Many Igbo elders on the other hand had nothing for the youths to follow except for their stomachs. That's why a young man had to do something bold.

2. It is time to get over navel-gazing about "insults". Nnamdi Kanu brought more pressure to the national question than any other person or group since the civil war. Was it worth abandoning the most pressing issue because one man offended you?

oduastates:
One preached hate , the other preach against injustice, exclusion.
One had warriors , the other had keyboard warriors.
One limited his angst against the Nigerian state to his ethnic nation , the other was pompously trying to encroach on nations that not his .
One deferred to his elders , traditional rulers and intellectuals, the other was giving his elders sliding tackle on radio .
One knew when it was time to slow down , the other put his leg on the gas even though he had already lost control of his revolution.

If Kanu had been a violent agitator he wouldn't have been silenced.

Everybody including non-Igbos know how flaky and disloyal many igbo elders are to the cause. Except for a few like Ikenga Nnewi, Dr. Ikedife. Kanu never insulted him. Those disloyal so called elders sold the entire Igbo race out they didn't sell Kanu out. Kanu in the larger scheme of things is not an issue. He was just one man with plenty of liver

Amarabae:
Op.
Nnamdi kanu still remain our hero and leader.
He has finished his work,
The ideologies he laid lives on.
No going back

Igbo leaders and so called elders that betrayed the cause will never recover from the shame. No more respect for them. See how our women disgraced Nwodo at the Igbo-Yoruba summit in Enugu

Guestlander:
One major difference; OPC did not target specific ethnic groups.They confronted the authorities and anyone who is against the interest of the Yoruba race.
IPOB and Kanu preached hate and urged his followers to attack Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani.Nnamdi Kanu failed even before he started.

Gani Adams OPC hunted and murdered Hausas, Igbos, Ijaws and others in Lagos.IPOB has not killed anybody. Do not come and lie on this thread.

Alariiwo:
Gani Adams loved Yorubas and fought for Yoruba interests.. when Igbos were busy sabotaging our efforts to get a restructured Nigeria, the likes of Gani never backed down.

Kanu on the other hand was a fool.. threatening to burn down Nigeria, insulting other tribes and calling them names.
I'm so glad his own people sold him out, proscribed and accepted the terrorist tag on him. #karma

This Is a lie. Igbos never fought against restructuring. Is it not against nairaland rules for posters to post false information?? Prove it before I report you to the mods.

NNAMDI KANU AND GANI ADAMS: A LESSON FOR THE
IGBO ELITES AND THE POLITICALLY CORRECT:

Today across Yoruba land, there is celebration among the old, young, male and female. The celebration is not because the tragedy that befell Nigeria as President has been dethroned. The celebration is because Otunba Gani
Adams’ is being installed as the 15th Aare Ona Kakanfo
of Yoruba land. In case you don't know Gani Adams, He
is the leader of the Odua Peoples Congress. A group that picked up arms against the marauders. He demanded for Oduduwa state! Nnamdi Kanu and Gani Adams have some things in common.. They both love their people. They both fought for the freedom of their people. They were ready to sacrifice their lives for the freedom of their people. The difference is that Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB did not pick up arms like Gani Adams and his OPC. While the Yoruba's rallied round Gani Adams, the Igbo elites and the politically correct betrayed him. While the Yoruba's defended their own, the Igbo elites and the politically correct in partnership with their masters in the north fought against Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB. Today as all roads lead to the installation of Gani Adams’ as the 15th Aare Ona Kakanfo of Yoruba land ( The defender of Yoruba land), Nnamdi Kanu is nowhere to be found and Igbo land is without a defender and true leader. Today, both those who never liked Gani's style are at the venue for the installation. The irony is, even the Yoruba's who criticized Nnamdi Kanu's courage are today celebrating the installation of Gani Adams as the 15th Aare Ona Kakanfo of Yoruba land. The lessons in this case is that you shouldn't betray your own no matter what.... Another lesson is, that we need strong and courageous people to
confront the marauders masquerading as owners of
Nigeria. The Igbo's lost a great opportunity in the person
of Nnamdi Kanu. As Gani defends the Yorubas against
the marauders, who will defend the Igbo's? Lazarus
Obinna

Ehn see correct song

AntiWailer:
U are getting uunnecessarily emotional.

No sane person will witness Jonathan's cluelessness and vote for him.

Same way no working brain will witness Buhari's Epic failure and vote for him in 2019.

All those "We told them" phrase is nonsense. We did the right thing in 2015 by changing the useless Govt in power.

We will do the same in 2019 and change this useless Govt.

Some of the most significant progress this country has ever witnessed was during GEJ's administration. Buhari was an appalling, terrible choice. No be only change in 2019 na 2079 you think he is Jona?

There is a difference between comrades and friends. Comrades are people that have a common cause and unite for that purpose and generally nothing more.

Friendship can develop between comrades and it can also not develop. No long thing here

Nnamdi Kanu was right about EVERYTHING

LionDeLeo:
OP, what you are asking for is a future impossible tense.

Have you ever wondered why other tribes rarely talk about doing business in the east?

Try leave your village and see what is happening in the world.

This Xmas a yoruba okada man that has been in my village for years carried me to buy petrol during the scarcity and he is not the only okada man from SW there. Yoruba tailors sef are at least four I know personally in my hometown.Nobody disturbs them or reminds them they are foreigners. That is real sophistication

Afonja no go like this news at all. They are getting exposed more these days and it's getting clearer that they are different from Yoruba who want a future different from their current slavery. This event will expose them more because no afonja will be there. Lmao

Who be we? You are a nobody

sarrki:
They want to associate with is at all cost

We will not allow that

We won't be back stabbed for the 3rd time

We say NO to any Alliance

Nice one. Abegi stay far with ya bad luck from we yard

Tunbolity:
Same servitude that saw Ojukwu prostrating for Shagari to allow his return back to Naija, and which eventually turned your one time lion of the East to a mere asslicker to people in power (AGIP=any govt in power) such that he even had rush to meet Buhari in 80s to support his govt, What was Ambibola Davies' role compared to Nzeribe on June 12 annulment? Don't misinter

Servitude is servitude.

raumdeuter:
Arthur Nzeribe was the leader, Abimbola Davies was the secretary

Uche Chukwumerije was the minister of Information then

OK I don hear

On Tuesday, June 15, while results were still being released, Chief Judge of Abuja, Mohammed Saleh, ordered NEC to stop the announcement while granting request for an exparte motion by ABN’s Abimbola Davies

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2013/06/crises-of-democracy-20-years-after-june-12-pro-jonathan-govs-annul-ngfs-election-of-gov-amaechi/amp/

Tunbolity:
I just smile when some Ibo spineless oafs throw tantrums at Yoruba people calling us Hausa slaves. Such e-rats are either lacking the sense of history or they suffer selective amnesia because from time immemorial, Hausas and Igbos have enjoyed good political camaraderie and rapproachment, Tafawa Balewa did not think of anyone else when he wanted to form his government, he picked Azikiwe, Shagari shopped for his V.P in Ibo land. The Ibos voted Tofa, a Northerner and as well, Babangida's candidate against Abiola in 1993, Even when Abiola's ambition was to be scuttled, Arthur Nzeribe, an Ibo man came handy. Now that the going is no longer good between them and Hausas, they tag anyone that associates with their perceived enemy a slave. Yorubas will never succumb to their blackmail and name callings!

Abimbola Davies was the leader of Association for Better Nigeria that scuttled June 12. Nzeribe was just a member try harder

Igbos and Hausas have enjoyed political camaraderie. Yoruba have related with Hausas from a position of servitude

Now we know better...

http://www..com/talk/topic,58118.0.html

"We were meeting almost clandestinely at Gen. Adebayo’s place. But something happened along the line that we had to move the meeting from Gen. Adebayo’s house and that is another story entirely. We shifted base a few times and ended up at Ndubuisi’s (Rear Admiral Ndubuisi Kanu rtd) house in Victoria Island. Ndubuisi has my tremendous respect because despite the persecution he went through, he didn’t give up. We never felt at any time that we were not welcome whenever we got there to hold our meetings, clandestine as they were. He would prepare food and everybody would feel happy, forgetful of the fact that we were being hounded." - Dr Fredrick Fasehun (OPC founder and NADECO member)

greiboy:
oh I can't prove igbos were happy to see the happenings of 1993, but you can make false claims on how yoruba military leaders betrayed mko.

You are joker


back to the discussion

No

Your brothers alone are one's trying hard to label Yorubas as cowards and backstabbers . This thread has proven that your people(igbos) were also guilty of the same thing in the past, nothing more. Hence, your reactions

I think the 2 million match in support of the abacha regime is a fair way of measuring the public opinion of the igbo public during the abacha regime

Yes, thank you for helping me to prove my point. Abacha arrested top Yoruba generals and accused them of plotting to detrone him and he sentenced then to death, which they were only lucky to escape

How is that not victimization.? which igbo leader faced the same fate


if I can recall, you accuse this Gmb regime of malice against the igbos because efcc arrested chief innocent chukwuka for alleged financial crimes and called for the boycott of gtbank.

Like I said before, the only people who stood with igbos during the military invasion last year were Yorubas. Even your south south brothers turned a blind eye.


Now, you read my post carefully and digest its contents.

Hypocrisy is a terrible disease

1. Now it's too clear you are clutching at straws. It is TOO easy to Google and learn the role that Yoruba leaders played while Abiola was in detention. If you don't know how to Google you can ask me and I will help you with the links. If you don't know that Diya and other generals of yoruba extraction serves under Abacha happily and couldn't find their voice then you are either a little kid or just ignorant. Allison Madueke, an Igbo man was the only one who spoke.

2.If you have any problem with the Igbos on NL who call you guys betrayers please go look for them and quarrel with them till you feel better...

3. You would be a terrible liar to try and claim that that the 2 million man march was made up of Igbos this is too silly to even discuss..unless you want to say that yorubas didn't want MKO to be president because Abimbola Davies led ABN to challenge the election in court

4. Generals Diya and co betrayed their brother and Abacha later turned on them. Nobody likes a sellout, even those you sell out to...You tried to link their woes to Abiola's mandate and I have buried that attempt at revisionism try harder

5. Your last point about innoson is worthless because there is no context to connect to June 12 unless you are just looking for straws to grasp at.

Bye!

SHAKABOOM:
Chai! That's what you get when you do things with Betrayals ad Cowards..They will betray ad abandon you when you nid them.

I never knew Alison madueke supported abiola..NEVER AGAIN

No mind these demonic hypocrites. They reward our support and love with propaganda, hatred and lies. We don learn. After all our efforts and support their children are opening worthless threads to tarnish our image.

ipodstinks:
You dey mind that one. Which struggle, maybe the struggle he was talking about is how they ran to their land during the time of the Yoruba struggle. Maybe Oxford has changed the meaning of betrayal.

Ignorance likes company. Who was president of Civil Liberties Organisation (CLO) that formed the arrowhead of the fight for June 12? Olisa Agbakoba!!!

Deceitful ignorant soul. I know your brain cannot carry much knowledge but I am schooling you for the benefit of those that can assimilate

greiboy:
Hey stop this

Yorubas suffer the most for 1993 election loss

A lot of yoruba generals were falsely arrested and jailed during the abacha regime.


What did igbos do during abacha regime? Wasn't majority of your tribe happy.


If you talk about solidarity of some igbo leaders in the face of adversity, we also have Yoruba's like ffk and fayose who are standing with namdi kanu even when igbo governors and most igbo politicians were afraid to do so. Yet, your brothers calls Yoruba names.

OR didn't you read somewhere last year that ipob blamed your governors for the invasion of military men on your soil last year. I am sure you have also forgotten that yoruba men including a very prominent monarch were the one's with enough guts to speak against the military invasion, while your leaders were hiding. So are your leaders cowards?
Considering that the yoruba leaders were dealing with a brutal military dictator in those days and your leaders had the luxury of a democratic government.

in gbm regime so far, some of people he has arrested are Yorubas.

Even the margin of victory tofa had in igbo states in 1993 was greater than the margin of victory Gmb had in Yoruba states in 2015. Still, your brothers always keep the tag of betrayals for Yoruba .

Come off it already, hypocrisy is a terrible disease

You alone have proved that this hypocritical, crappy thread is all about looking for sneaky ways to tarnish Igbo image ahead of the 2019 elections and it has already failed woefully. You CANNOT PROVE IGBOS WERE HAPPY AT JUNE 12 ANNULMENT.

Read the post you quoted and read it slowly...

Abacha dealt with the yorubas surrounding him AFTER they had betrayed their brother MKO. Abacha did not jail Diya, Olanrewaju and co for supporting June 12. The only member of the Provisional Ruling Council that stood up to Abacha was Allison Madueke!

Abacha jailed Diya and the others for an alleged coup attempt.....let that sink in before you start to believe your own propaganda

In case you missed it

nku5:
You are just rambling. Get some knowledge here:

http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2002/dec/211.html

"Igbos were among those that suffered as a result of the fallouts of the senseless and irresponsible cancellation of an election reputed to be the freest and fairest election ever to be held in Nigeria. Many Nigerians from all the ethnic groups lost one way or the other both personally and collectively. Very many Nigerians of the Igbo extraction were made the scapegoats of June 12 in several ways as a result of the fact that they kept faith with June 12. For instance, Professor Humphrey Nwosu, the Chairman of the National Election Commission (NEC) was among the earliest martyrs of June 12 because of his insistence on releasing the remaining results despite reported threats from "above". He was reportedly tortured and humiliated.
It is on record that Chief Ralph Obioha and Bobo Nwosisi were men that flanked Chief M.K.O. Abiola the day he declared himself president. Both honorable Nigerians suffered lots of personal loss because of their loyalty and because they were steadfast with Abiola. Chief Obioha had his bank liquidated by the supreme dictator, Abacha. The other, Bobo Nwosisi was forced into exile in London and later died in exile. A high ranking Ibo military officer, Allison Madueke, lost his post because he vehemently opposed Abacha on the issue of June 12. The South-West caucus in the military agreed with him that he will raise the issue at the Provisional Ruling Council and that they will support all him. When he finally did, the spineless Diya and his clansmen failed to back him up as agreed and he became the lone ranger and was unceremoniously removed from the inner caucus"

ipodstinks:
[s][/s]Stop lying and go and read about 'Oso Abiola'. Which struggle, person you never voted for, rather, voted for your master up north. Stop giving us Fabu. The result showed you people never wanted him as president.

You are so pathetic ;

A simple minded Igbo hater that cannot defend the trash he spews online. Now the truth no sweet you, you want to hide your shame on the internet when the internet has no hiding place for shameless liars. Abeg go hide your face. Joker

Go read more http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2002/dec/211.html

ipodstinks:
Start what, igbo gat no struggle to June 12. Which useless struggle you get for someone you didn't vote for you backstabbers.

You are just rambling. Get some knowledge here:

"Igbos were among those that suffered as a result of the fallouts of the senseless and irresponsible cancellation of an election reputed to be the freest and fairest election ever to be held in Nigeria. Many Nigerians from all the ethnic groups lost one way or the other both personally and collectively. Very many Nigerians of the Igbo extraction were made the scapegoats of June 12 in several ways as a result of the fact that they kept faith with June 12. For instance, Professor Humphrey Nwosu, the Chairman of the National Election Commission (NEC) was among the earliest martyrs of June 12 because of his insistence on releasing the remaining results despite reported threats from "above". He was reportedly tortured and humiliated.
It is on record that Chief Ralph Obioha and Bobo Nwosisi were men that flanked Chief M.K.O. Abiola the day he declared himself president. Both honorable Nigerians suffered lots of personal loss because of their loyalty and because they were steadfast with Abiola. Chief Obioha had his bank liquidated by the supreme dictator, Abacha. The other, Bobo Nwosisi was forced into exile in London and later died in exile. A high ranking Ibo military officer, Allison Madueke, lost his post because he vehemently opposed Abacha on the issue of June 12. The South-West caucus in the military agreed with him that he will raise the issue at the Provisional Ruling Council and that they will support all him. When he finally did, the spineless Diya and his clansmen failed to back him up as agreed and he became the lone ranger and was unceremoniously removed from the inner caucus"

BBPIA:
I dislike back and forth argument, the point here is clear.

Igbos massively voted against a Yoruba man(southerner) and we didn't shout betrayal

What's now their headache with who Yorubas voted for in the last election?

Before they criticize, they should look at the mirror first. They started it, when the table is turned, they cry blue murder

Keep deceiving yourself

On Tuesday, June 15, while results were still being released, Chief Judge of Abuja, Mohammed Saleh, ordered NEC to stop the announcement while granting request for an exparte motion by ABN’s Abimbola Davies.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2013/06/crises-of-democracy-20-years-after-june-12-pro-jonathan-govs-annul-ngfs-election-of-gov-amaechi/amp/

BBPIA:
Like the Igbos in Abia, Imo and Enugu?

Like the Igbos that organized one million man match in solidarity with Abacha's government?

This thread is an expose, thanks to the op for bringing it up

If you want to be smart by half na you sabi, if you want to be a hater, it's your choice but you will not tell lies against Igbos without us puncturing your garbage.

1. Yoruba also fought against June 12. Abimbola Davies was the chairman of Association for Better Nigeria (ABN). Nzeribe was a member. ABN was the group that went to court to declare the election null and void before IBB finally scuttled it.

2. An Igbo man organised a March for abacha but Abacha's number 2 man Oladipo Diya was from where? Abacha's minister of justice Olu Onagoruwa was from where.

If you want to point hypocritical fingers you will get double pointed right back at you. Do you know the input that Igbos made towards the struggle for June 12? Don't get me started

oodualover:
Voter turnout was higher in the south than in the north. The Social Democratic Party (SDP) candidate Moshood Abiola received over 8 million votes, and won in 19 states and the Federal Capital Territory. The National Republican Convention (NRC) candidate Alhaji Bashir Tofa received over 6 million votes and won in 10 states only. Over 14 million people voted. Abiola won in Akwa Ibom, Anambra, Benue, Borno, Cross River, Delta, Edo, Jigawa, Kaduna, Kano, Kwara, Lagos, Ogun, Ondo, Osun, Oyo, Plateau, Taraba, and Yobe states, and the Federal Capital Territory. Tofa won in Abia, Adamawa, Bauchi, Enugu, Imo, Katsina, Kebbi, Kogi, Niger, Rivers and Sokoto States.

Abiola’s victory was comprehensive as he won almost 60% of the total votes cast. Only in two states (Kebbi and Sokoto) did Abiola fail to obtain at least one-third of the votes. Abiola even defeated Tofa in Tofa’s home state of Kano.

https://maxsiollun./2008/06/14/june-12-1993-election-full-results/

Whenever an election approaches we see yorubas on NL posting all manner of silly propaganda threads that they think will somehow paint Igbos in a bad light. We have permanently damaged their 1966 coup lies now they want to use June 12 elections

Igbos fought for Abiola's mandate just as hard as yorubas did. It is on record that while some yoruba elders and intelligentsia were sneaking into aso rock to collect envelopes from abacus and betray their son,some Igbos stood firm with Abiola till the very end.

GMBuhari:
And when police or army comes to raid agatu, finds those pillow guns and start shooting villagers you'll scream blue murder? It's illegal to own guns in Nigeria without licence


Back to topic, wishing the NA and gallant forces best of luck and godspeed


When they are done with boko haram Nigerias first Menace, let them deal with ND Avengers, militants and LiePob then Fulani herdsmen no terrorists should be left alive

Abegi go suck egg. Fulani herdsmen carry AK-47 freely but innocent Benue people who carry them for protection are the ones you have liver to go and shoot.

High calibre weapons AK-47 that housewives in Agatu use as pillow?