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Mekusxyz:
Only the North will suffer at first but they should bounce back, since it is evident that you do not need oil to survive and they have abundant land to focus on Agriculture and related endeavours. The South south and South West will kick off much earlier followed by the south East, due to relative lack of federal infrastructure in the SE. But typical of Igbo, in a few years the SE will bounce up and down and overtake the rest of the pack. The oil and gas in Abia, Anambra and Imo will come in handy.

- There is no need to try to instigate competition . . .

- This thread is should not be about who has the best television . . . hence i would appreciate if you please stop the incessant tendency to incite tribal issues . . .

- Whether Yorubas, Niger-Deltans or Ibos become first, second or last is irrelevant, infact I am sure a lot of people would careless so long as things are working for the benefit of the people in such nations.

- One can careless if Japan is better than US so long as being in Japan or being in US makes a positive difference to your life as a person.

- So please I beg you . . . kindly stop the attempt at inciting tribal sentiments.

[quote author=becomrich; link=topic=373829.msg5236206#msg5236206 date=1262460059]You people think, it is that easy like just getting away from nigeria. Look, we are putting forward a united nation document Umaru yar adua signed that allow us to leave. The reason edo, delta and bayelsa is part of it, is because we can prove to the United nation that they are the children of Oduduwa. And we have ties with the people of the republic of Benin.

Here is the document yar adua signed. We are 100% sure of the united national approve our request. I mean those of us from Oduduwa. The igbo to go with us have to have a tie. Yar adua signed the document. I was at the united nation at the time. I saw Yar adua with my own eyes at the United nation. Even the katsina state governor came alone with Yar adua and even talked with katsina state governor and we took a picture.

I am telling you, we are 100% . this way the north can be majority.

Even look Jonathan been prevent does not prevent us from taken the ijaws with us. When it happen in Ethiopia, they got a Tigrean man to be president to prevent it. since most of the Tigrean where asking for indepedent. The union nation did not look at the ethiopia agrument. The united nation would not care if Jonathan is president of nigeria when we remove the ijaw people from Nigeria.[/quote]

Becomrich can you please explain the highlighted part . . .

sjeezy8:
Yorubas dont love it

Lol funny stuvs ND should have their own republic. Though some of them were with the East and West before, things have changed. Esp with Ken saro wiwa and ojukwu.

So yea things have changed since before, The west consisted of edo and co . . . but today that can never be and binis, itsekiris are they're own people, and (many yorubas) wouldnt want them to be in a odua country anyway. They wouldnt want to be in an odua nations aswell thats like asking to be marginalized, until a obama of theirs emerges.

So yea ND republic should include all ND states rivers,edo,delta,bayelsa,cross river, akwa ibom,- that seems more eqaul than any of those states joining odua or biafra. or atealst split it by ethnicity.

Odua will be fine - they have major agriculture(Making Nigeria Number 1 in Africa), some Oil, minerals . . .  and o yea EXTREMELY HIGH taxes.


Becomerich has always made sense except for the Delta state and edo joinin Benin part.

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Actually I think Itsekiri would want to be part of Odua . . . cus from history, Itsekiri can technically be considered to be a group of Yoruba people whose language is much more different from the standard Yoruba language . . .infact i think i have come across information that say that the Itsekiri language is closer to ancient Yoruba than the present day Yoruba language . . .

It is wrong to say Itsekiri would be marginalised. . . all you need to know that such a statement is not really true is by merely considering the Itsekiri names . . .infact you would find a hard time differentiation between certain Itsekiri names and Yoruba names in general.

Hence as far as Odua is concerned . . . Itsekiri would want to go along with Yorubas as they themselves are actually Yorubas. . .


Benin/Edo is a nation on its own with its own history, hence my suspicion is that they would prefer to stand on their own rather than join with the Yorubas . . .

Mublock90:
This will hardly happen  but Amen to this division. Arewa can only regain its glory by this division. It is clear we have been excessively been corrupted by the south to the point that we could surpass them at it. Yet one can only pray and hope. <sigh>

Suspected potential multiple id user . . .

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=373829.msg5235364#msg5235364 date=1262451371]The topic of this thread is hypothetical, so are my questions. Don't read too much into things.

As you stated only sovereign nations have access to territorial waters, well the North is currently part of Nigeria and some of their resources, human or otherwise were used to develop the ports. To carve out a region out of Nigeria, and tell the North or any other region,  - get lost, you no longer have access to the ports and some other resources, the development of which they contributed, without some sort of negotiated settlement, in my view is foolhardy.[/quote]Edit:

- How exactly did the North contribute. . .or when did a national resource become a point of compensation . . . does that mean other regions have to be compensated for Abuja. . . and other physical infrasstructure constructed in the North even though the North brings little to the table in terms of Revenue, or Professional Man Power . . .

- The north did not contribute to the coast . . . Nigeria did . . .

- The contribution of Nigeria is in terms of development of what is already there . . . ie. Nigeria did not create the coast instead Nigeria just developed the coast.

- It seems you are implying that the North needs to be compensated for the Ports or something . . .

- The bottom line is that if and when nigeria breaks up, Niger-Delta and Yorubas can decide whatever they want as regards to the ports and the coast . . . just as the same way as The south does not really give a damn about what happens to Abuja . . .

Does Niger Delta have the right to claim ownership of roads and physical infrastructure constructed in the North based on the fact that most of the resources for such came from Oil which in turn came predominantly from Niger Delta.

Does Lagos state have the right to claim ownership of public property in other states based on the fact that Taxes generated from those states form a substantial part of revenue being shared amongst other states in Nigeria.

So you see its very ridiculous to even suggest that one region deserves compensation for the developement by Nigeria (as a whole) of a natural resource or artificial resource in another region.

- Implying the North needs to be compensated for the ports is almost like saying that The South needs to be compensated for using the bulk of revenue generated from the South to build, develop and sustain Abuja . . . its ludicrous to even say that or make sure a pronouncement. . . .

- There is no compensation nothing nada . . . once Nigeria breaks up . . .its every man to he's tent . . . nobody compensates anybody . . .

- Infact talking of compensation . . . the North deserves to return looted funds running into billions of dollars to the South and then apologise for stealing money that was generated from the South and supposed to be used for the development of Nigeria as a whole. . . There are also corrupt individuals in the South, hence why the issue of compensation for stolen money is ludicrous when considered in the context of break-up of Nigeria.

- Other than having a sense of ownership of other regions of Nigeria . . . it is ridiculous for anyone to even say that any other region deserves compensation for a public facility situated in another region . . . Hence to my understanding, its only someone who has a superiority complex and misguided sense of ownership of another region, that would even expect to be compensated for something that was never his in the first place.

- Those public facilities were developed underr the name Nigeria and not under the name of any region hence no region has th right to claim compensation for something that was never its property in the first place.

- Ndu_Chucks are you sure you are who you claim to be . . .cus the more i think about this your statement that more i am worried as to mindset that would make you make such a statement of saying one region needs to compensate another region for a public property located in the former region.

dayokanu:
A striker who scored 58 goals in 2 and half seasons, tell me how many strikers in Europe have done that in 2 and half years

edit:

so why was he offloaded . . .

Remii:
NORM that is "Naturally Occurring Radioactive Materials" are not safe ultimately. That is a major occupational hazard in mining industry including Oil and Gas.
You can read more about NORM from this link.  http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf30.html

Come to think of it, how does albinos come to be.
Why did Yorubas discourage pregnant women not to move about in hot sun, especially between noon and 2pm, It is just not to expose herself to radiation that could lead to mutation of her unborn child.

Yes they are not safe . . . the trick here is naturally occuring is not in our control . . .man-made is in our control . . .hence we can avoid it.

The naturally occuring one is not generally avoidable . . .e.g. we can't stop going out in the sun cus of solar radiation . . .over time, our body has come to adapt to natural radioactive sources . . . this adaption is either biological or behavioural . . .

Hence my problem with the Full-body scanners is that we know the natural sources are sometimes harmful hence why would we want to subject ourselves to an artificial source that can harm our health when we can as well avoid it.

For example, CT Scanners are medical imaging devices that we certified to be safe . . .yet reports are now coming out that they are not really that safe. . . thus the onus is that so called safety certification cannot be trusted cus in reality most radiations apart from light (which itself can also be harmful to the eyes) are generally not good for the body . . . (even radio waves can heat the flesh if there is presence of metal in the flesh . . .)

THE QUESTION BECOMES: Are we willing to trade our health for our so called safety . . .

Come to think of it, how does albinos come to be.

Albinoism is more of a genetic defect . . . and not an immediate cause and effect consequence of being exposed to radiation

EmperorOlu:
The best option is to split the south into 3 countries

The nation oof ODUA consisiting of maybe ,Lagos,ondo,ogun,osun,oyo,ekiti
The Biafra nation with Ibo states and cross river to enable  them access to the sea
The Niger Delta nation

- I hope you know that significant parts of Kogi and Kwara are part of the Yoruba territories . . .

- For all he's faults, becomerich actually makes sense with a number of his geographical analysis. . .

Mbeki:
WELL SAID

If you go to France they speak french
go to Germany they speak German
go to Spain they speak spanish.

Nigeria is going to divide along the major tribes in the country. All these south Nigeria poo won't work, else the old Nigeria will repeat itself again

- That is exactly what i have been talking about . . .

- The whole of Africa needs to be reshuffled . . .

- Africa is expriencing problems as a result of the initial creation of countries by forcing together different Nations under one name . . . e.g. Hutu, Tutsi, Fulani, Kanuri, Yoruba, Ibo, etc. . .

- Africa would always have problems of development cus those nations would always be figthing against each other . . .

- Hence the only way to accelerate Africa's growth is if all African countries come together to re-create new countries based solely on similar cultures . . . for example:


Yorubas can then form a nationa consisting from their people all the way from Kwara, Kogi up to Areas of Togo and Benin and even Ghana (yes I heard from a Ghanian that there are even people with Yoruba culture in Ghana) . . . (this is part of the reason why I think Becomrich sometimes makes sense, cus what I am saying is actualy similar to what he tries to say albeit in a rather repetitive and sometimes disjointed manner)

This concept is known to work as can be easily seen from how Yoruba land was developed during the first republic of when Nigeria was still operating as semi-autonomous regions . . .

^^^

You are plagiarising avatar catch phrase . . .

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I shall continue to comment on ManUSA cusI have no scooter, I only have foot wagon hence . . . . . . comments shall continue . . .

tubabie:
^^^ Did your post miss its way? This Arsenal not Chelsea

No i did not, it was intentional . . .

tubabie:
Happy New Year Peeps.
We shall have a great year.

If it is "we" as in people generally I agree . . . and say let it be.

However if it is "we" as in ManUSA, then I reject it completely . . .

CONDOLENCES


It is on this note and with significant pompous humility that I hereby commemorate with Chelsea FC on their EPL Title fade out. . .

As a member of the notwell-wishers club, I hereby pay my last respects and condolences in advance to the eventual fade out of Chelsea fc . . .

They were too young old to fade . . .

Refereshments would be served by August 2010 . . .



RSVP
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Nairaland.

CONDOLENCES


It is on this note and with significant pompous humility that I hereby commemorate with Chelsea FC on their EPL Title fade out. . .

As a member of the notwell-wishers club, I hereby pay my last respects and condolences in advance to the eventual fade out of Chelsea fc . . .

They were too young old to fade . . .

Refereshments would be served by August 2010 . . .



RSVP
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Nairaland.

Why do muslim men wear short trouser . . .

Pifa:
@ No2Atheism, @ SEFAGO et a.l

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Didn’t you guys take physics in secondary school?

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No I did not even go to primary school talkless of taking physics in secondary school . . . 


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Hmm . . . "naturally occuring radiation" within our environment that our natural body has already adapted to are not the problem, the problem comes when we either:

- Go to a new environment with a new radiation source that our body has not yet adapted to.

or

- We bring a new radiation source to our environment despite that our body is not familiar with that source initially.


It is this new radiation source that hence causes a loss of balance and hence health problems . . .

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Can you please provide a comparative data reference showing how the Full- body scanners are safe . . . what kind of radiation they give off . . .and the comparison of their radiation with respect to other artifical radiation sources . . .

Remii:
below is what TSA says on this scanner of thing. It seems less harmful, read on.


http://sg.news.yahoo.com/ap/20091231/tbs-us-tec-airport-screening-q-a-1d79e03.html


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Questions and answers about full-body scanners By JOELLE TESSLER,AP Technology Writer - Thursday, December 31
WASHINGTON – Travelers still getting used to removing their shoes in public and pouring shampoo into tiny bottles may soon have to adjust to something new in the airport security line _ giant machines that that scan their bodies for anything a terrorist might use to cause harm during a flight.

High-tech, full-body scanning machines are already in use at a handful of airports, but they may become more common as security officials around the world respond to the attempted attack on an airliner on Christmas Day. The Netherlands announced Wednesday that the scanners would be used for all flights heading from Amsterdam's airport to the United States, and an official in Nigeria later said that country planned to buy full-body scanners too.

What exactly are these machines, and how do they work? What are the drawbacks to using these types of scans?

Here are some questions and answers about the devices.

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Q: How do these full-body scanners work?

A: The two main types of scanners are "millimeter wave" and "backscatter" machines. Millimeter wave units send radio waves over a person and produce a three-dimensional image by measuring the energy reflected back. Backscatter machines use low-level X-rays to create a two-dimensional image of the body.

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Q: What sorts of things can they find?

A: The machines are designed to uncover what a physical pat-down could turn up but a metal detector wouldn't find. That includes plastic or chemical explosives and nonmetallic weapons in a pocket or strapped to someone's body.

The machines would also find guns, knives and other metallic objects that would set off a metal detector.

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Q: What can they not find?

A: Generally, the machines can't find items stashed in a body cavity. So the scanners wouldn't stop at least one common smuggling method used by drug traffickers.
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Q: How common are they at airports?

A: Because of fears that the scans infringe on travelers' dignity by revealing bodily contours, European officials have generally limited the machines to tests in airports or train stations.

In U.S. airports, the Transportation Security Administration has begun expanding the use of full-body scanning machines, although passengers can opt for a physical pat-down instead. The TSA has 40 in place, just bought 150 and plans to buy 300 more.

Six of the machines are being used instead of a metal detector at airports in Albuquerque, N.M.; Las Vegas; Miami; San Francisco; Salt Lake City; and Tulsa, Okla. The other 34 are used for secondary screening of people who set off a metal detector in Atlanta; Dallas/Fort Worth; Denver; Detroit; Indianapolis; Jacksonville and Tampa, Fla.; Los Angeles; Phoenix; Raleigh-Durham, N.C.; Richmond, Va.; and two airports in the Washington area: Baltimore/Washington and Reagan National.

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Q: Is there a way to make the scans less revealing?

A: The technology has evolved to reduce the clarity of identifying details. The systems blur faces, or they produce body images that look like chalk outlines.

Amsterdam's airport is moving ahead with full-body scanners after trying new software that projects a stylized image _ rather than an actual picture _ onto a computer screen. It highlights the area of the body where objects are concealed in pockets or under the clothing.

The TSA says it uses logistical methods to safeguard privacy. Full-body images are viewed in a walled-off location not visible to the public. The security officer assisting the passenger cannot view the image, and the officer who views the image doesn't see the passenger. If the officer viewing the image sees something of concern, he notifies the agent who is with the passenger to do further screening.
The machines can't store or print images, and the TSA says officers who view the images are not allowed to take cameras or cell phones into the screening rooms.

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Q: How long does it take to be scanned?

A: The machines are getting faster but still can take up to 15 seconds to scan a traveler, which makes the process slower than using metal detectors.

TSA officials note that for some people _ those with medical devices that typically set off metal detectors _ these machines could be quicker because those passengers wouldn't have to make multiple passes through the machine or be pulled aside for additional screening, as they often have to with metal detectors.

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Q: Do security officials hope to use the full-body scanners on every person getting on a flight?

A: At the moment, that's probably not realistic _ in the U.S. alone, there are 730 checkpoints with 2,100 security lanes at the nation's 450 airports, and there are thousands more lanes at airports around the world. Cost may be an issue _ the machines can be $150,000 to $200,000 each.

Taking Amsterdam, where the machines are already in place, as an example: The airport's 15 scanners won't be enough to screen every U.S.-bound passenger, so pat-down searches will still be used. It remains to be seen whether that strategy will be copied at other airports.

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Q: Do the scanners pose health risks, especially for frequent travelers?

A: The TSA says the technology is harmless.

Millimeter wave energy is common in the world, and the TSA says the scanners produce far less energy than a cell phone. The X-rays in backscatter machines are weak; TSA says the radiation is equivalent to what a person gets in two minutes of flying on an airplane.

If someone fears the technology, the TSA offers a physical pat-down.
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Associated Press Writer Ann Sanner in Washington contributed to this report.

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From my limited knowledge of Radiology . . .no amount of X-rays is harmless . . . the only thing that happens is that it cooks the body less. . . the bottom line is that it still cooks the body.

Remember that its government that claimed that also claimed that: CT Scanners are safe yet look at the picture below . . . showing that CT Scanners are not as safe as they are claimed to be . . .

The bottomline is that if the radiation is not natural i.e. if it is not something that "occurs naturally in our living environment" the probability is that its harmful . . . even too much of "light" i.e. sunlight is harmful to the eyes, how much more x-rays.

I don't expect TSA to say anything less than they are saying . . .

SEFAGO:
Yeah, it seems these scanners are highly radioactive. Cancer incorporated. Man, i dont plan to travel very often then.

- Where did you confirm this information . . . notice that the picture i posted is just for CT Scanners and it has nothing to do with the Airport Scanners . . .

- I somehow have a feeling that the Health Industry would be happy about this scanning business cus it means more cancer patients for them and hence more potential profits for them . . . .

- Why do I have this nagging feeling that, all this terrorist, full-body scanner, cancer are connected in a particular way with the whole "New World Order" depopulation thingy . . .

As Berbatov ambled to the penalty spot, he showed little emotion as he rarely does. He picked up the ball and re-spotted it. But what he did next was in essence the conundrum that is Berbatov and the problem that now Ferguson has to solve. It wasn't a run up to the ball, but more a gentle stroll. There was no stutter, no deception. It's hard to say if he tapped or pushed the ball, but there is no doubt it was not hit hard. Howard must have been surprised as he saved with his legs; surprised at how long it took the ball to reach him. It personified the main criticism of Berbatov—his lack of conviction.

There was fuel strike in Berbatov's boot hence the ball dey take leg waka instead of taking Okada . . .

^^

thanks . . .

[quote author=becomrich; link=topic=373829.msg5226956#msg5226956 date=1262298457]Mekusxyz  
You claim it should be in the centre. Please check google satellite picture. The centre of your southern Nigeria is between Owo in ondo state and Benin city in edo state.  see picture. go and measure it yourself.[/quote]

See me see trouble . . . see as people dey fight on top something that is not real . . . .  

Abu Zola:
I wanna go elusive off topic,

what Farouk preached is if U.S don't stop supporting the terrorism of Israel even a cockroach will attempt another 9/11

and Raid^TM would be used on the cockroach . . . 

[quote author=S@mi link=topic=373948.msg5226841#msg5226841 date=1262296576]@No2Atheism Who told you Al - Qaeda are illiterate ?[/quote]A significant number of their leaders are probably not . . .e.g. Osama and co . . .e.g. the Northern Nigeria muslim that just recently created issues for us . . .

I was just talking in general terms . . .of the typical al qeida member. . .

I refuse to believe that this terrorist attack is not a false flag attack manufactured by the US . . . so attack itself . . .

- How does Al Qieda get access to sophisticated military grade explosive technology. . .

- Yet the normal person in the street cannot sneeze without CIA and FBI knowing . . .

- Yes Umar Farouk probably tried to carry out the attack . . .however the question remains as to the people that were actually pulling the strings from behind the scenes . . .

cellphones are already slowly cooking our brains yet here we are about to start cooking ourselves from insider out use . . . .

SEFAGO:
Cancer machines- those things are not safe- terrorist will kill us before our time

That exactly is what worries me the more . . .

- I don't have a proof however I can't help but worry that repeated exposure to eletromagnetic radiatino is not good health . . . . even too much light proves harmful to the eyes . . .how much more the other spectrum.

- Which kinds of radiation is being used in those imaging devices . . . is it the same radiation as in MRI or is it closer to Xray machines . . .

Siena:
Probably best if you start a new thread, else we'll get told off for derailling this thread, and rightly so.

chk the following link here

@Siena . . .

Questions:

- What is the typical price range for a good looking left handed used Audi Sedan with leather interior here in the UK

- How can one be 100% sure that it is not a stolen vehicle.

- How much would it cost to get it to Nigeria.

- Kindly suggest some Audi models that you think are good enough for the Nigerian roads and weather.