₦airaland Forum

akin707:
There is no nobler life than to die as a martyr for jihad. None. The highest deed in Islam is Jihad. If we commit to Jihad, we can neglect other deeds, even fasting and prayer. (Abu Bakar Ba’asyir, Spiritual leader of Jamaah Islamiyah)[1]

inalegs:
Hello i neva said he was born on the 25th i said we were celebrating his birth on that day bro always learn 2 read between the lines PLEASE

No2Atheism:
- Religion at its best . . .

- 25th december has nothing to do with the Messiah . . .

- The Creator already said that He is not man that he should lie . . .hence what makes you think The Creator would now stoop low to acknowledge the lie that the pagan day such as 25th December has is supposed to be holy. . . just because people are claiming contrary to the bible that they are using that day to celebrate the birth of the Messiah.

- The bottom line is that The Creator saves people irrepestive of day or date . . .so please stop this attempt to link this to "Christ + Mass" . . .

inalegs:
There is something amazing that we are not highlighting. Its the fact that because we were celebrating the birth of our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ those passengers with Mutallab Jnr. were exempted from death and the explosive could not explode. Thank you JESUS.

ElRazur:
I am not limiting your search to catholic bible. I think you missed my point. I presented a standard passage there appears to suggest a flat earth and then made mention of where it can be found in the catholic bible.

ElRazur:
Thank you for insulting my intelligence sir, but I do understand "context" very well.

muhsin:
Go read N2A OP.

jcross22:
THE FATHER OF THE BOY IN QUESTION NEVER COMPLAINED TO US EMBASSY ABOUT ANY THING SECURITY PERTAINING TO AMERICA [/b]BUT WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT HIS SON WHERE ABOUT OKAY READ THAT IN QUOTE "Faruk had left Nigeria earlier this year to study for a Masters degree in Dubai, but two months ago, he left Dubai for Yemen, saying he wanted to improve his Arabic. But once there, he called family members to say he didn't want any links with them again and then switched off the phone and destroyed the SIM card. It was at that point that Mutallab Senior informed American Embassy officials in Abuja [b]that his son presented a security risk. The family did not even know that Faruk sneaked back into Lagos on Christmas Eve, from where he took the KLM flight to Amsterdam and thence to Detroit." source http://allafrica.com/stories/200912281383.html

ElRazur:
An interesting extracts of various entry from someone who appears to be farouk.



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6970196.ece


If this is him, it at least shows what some of us have known for a long time - Islam does not fit with the modern day. Quite frankly, he is tormented and conflicted within himself. Yes on the outside, he appears to be normal, but on the inside, the desire to be "true" to his religion and at the same time engage in normal activity seem to tearing him apart. The same thing happened to Marvin Gaye.

Another thing here is that he appears to love the same Western world his religion teaching goes against. Whatever the case, I doubt the court will take these in consideration at all.

namski:
Guy I guess you understand how these people reason. Before I left Naija, I worked in one of the banks in Nigeria and I tell you something that shocked me beyond believe. I was just newly employed and my Head of Operation, a Yoruba Muslim, ICAN qualified with an MBA. By every ramification a very well educated guy and was doing very well with the bank (I think he was a Dpty Mgr then). This guy i refer to jumped up in celebration as the news of 911 was announced before he realised he was in a banking environment, but by then the harm had been done. Obviously all of us took our distance from the guy and after about a month he asked to be re-deplyed to another branch. I can mention his name if need be. These guys are plain bastards and I still don't understand why I am the same country with them and we keep pretending to be brothers. ONE NATION my foot - break up you silly thing called Nigeria!!!

Jairzinho:
@ibro911,please advise why you have 911 on your name? Also can you please explain -  Q'uran 9:5

ElRazur:
Not to digress, but since the removal of many editors, Wiki credibility is up. Prior to that, it was only found to contain about 33% error than the leading encyclopaedia. . . but that is another story lol.

Here is another source [see below]. Even though it was trying to debunk the statement as a myth, it was forced to admit that some early Christians did preach that the earth was flat.

http://www.bede.org.uk/flatearth.htm

As to why no one paid attention to him, for the purpose of my point, that is irrelevant. What matter is that he appears to be one of the early Christians that preached a flat earth.

Also, from that same source, it appears that the bible did suggest that the earth was flat. [it will be interesting to see what you come up with]


From the two points you raised above and with the sources provided, it appears that the Church [or representative of the church] did preach a flat earth.

From the two points you raised above and with the sources provided, it appears that the Church [or representative of the church] did preach a flat earth.

It also appears that a few educated people in the church do not agree with a flat earth, and finally, whatever the case are, there is no denying that there wasn't conflict between the church and early science teachings.

(for example at Daniel 4:11 or 4:8 in Catholic Bibles)

ElRazur:
No2atheismUK

From wiki



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth#Early_Christian_Church

And nope, I did not edit wiki to put that. Look the point is there were conflicts in ideollogy between christainity and modern science. Period.

Finally, where did I stated I believed it was started in Europe? Yeah I was half asleep, half watching tv last night and half typing here. . . .but am 100% sure that I did not state categorically that it started in Europe. . . .No dey make assumptions jare.

ElRazur:
No2athesimUK

From wiki



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth#Early_Christian_Church

And nope, I did not edit wiki to put that. Look the point is there were conflicts in ideollogy between christainity and modern science. Period.

HIO4:
What high horse "dude"?  You are being overdramatic and emotional.

so what? The what is, it's a fact that plays into the stereotype the media will perpetuate.
the what is the negative impact it would have on Nigerians, at least in the short run.

unless there's some part of my previous post and this post that I misconstrued, I stand corrected.

You better gulp some ice water and calm down before you rupture a nerve, and recognize that a screwjob has contributed immensely to to giving fellow Nigerians a bad name.

oyb:
word is bond - no truer words were spoken

lets split so we can each have each region with its image problem

north - boko haram-terrorist

south east - kidnapping , terrorist , 419

south west - white collar crime


i wonder what you would say about the label nigeria has been given thanks to your religion and your adherents who are suffering not child witches to live. hypocrite

only an extremely small mind would be deluded into thinking that nigeria had a pristine mage before now

namski:
Guy I guess you understand how these people reason. Before I left Naija, I worked in one of the banks in Nigeria and I tell you something that shocked me beyond believe. I was just newly employed and my Head of Operation, a Yoruba Muslim, ICAN qualified with an MBA. By every ramification a very well educated guy and was doing very well with the bank (I think he was a Dpty Mgr then). This guy i refer to jumped up in celebration as the news of 911 was announced before he realised he was in a banking environment, but by then the harm had been done. Obviously all of us took our distance from the guy and after about a month he asked to be re-deplyed to another branch. I can mention his name if need be. These guys are plain bastards and I still don't understand why I am the same country with them and we keep pretending to be brothers. ONE NATION my foot - break up you silly thing called Nigeria!!!

ElRazur:
No one says the world is flat in Islam. You are clearly not understanding my post. Please go back and read it again. I am saying Christian religion and the teachings of the early churches believe that the world was flat, these people weighed enormous influence, so you can imagine the shock it caused when Science came along with facts that it is not flat. . . .That is what am saying, and nope I never said it was Islam. . . Omo go and sleep jare lol.

Kobojunkie:
Al Quiada might realize after this that Nigerians may not be good candidates for such acts. Roflmao!!

adekampe:
i actually agree with bombsquad.politicians should fix the country and stop praying for military not to take over. .imagine the country being without a president for over a month? ?imagine a 23 yr old terrorist uncovered to be our citizen? ?im in awe

politicians should fix this land

spikedcylinder:
Can't do all that one, she's buying the tickets.

spikedcylinder:
She's probably tricking me jare. I'll get to the bottom of this.

spikedcylinder:
My imaginary friend? Na me wey follow you yarn. No vex.

sammyzacks:
Don't make me lose my sleep.