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TV/MoviesRe: Hollywood: Favourite Movies, Actors and Awards. Tinseltown reviews & Gossip by No2Atheism(m): 10:20pm On Dec 28, 2009
spikedcylinder:
How did you bloody get tickets? My friend insists the tickets are sold out in 3D cinemas till July!
- You an this your probably imaginary friend . . . I went to purchase ticket today less than 1 hour to the viewing time and i got the ticket and watched the thing life and direct here in Manchester.

- Which city is your friend talking about . . .

- July is a very long time as far as cinemas are concerned hence . . .i don't know this your imaginary friend . . .

- I think i need to get myself a 3D computer monitor and television soon . . . cus the thing is really good to watch grin
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by No2Atheism(m): 9:01pm On Dec 28, 2009
ElRazur:
Hi guys. I suppose the dust have settled a little bit now and time to start asking some questions.

I am about to make a post that is questioning certain things in relation to Islam, please do not see this as an attack on Islam. Surely, any religion should not be afraid of questioning when things appears a bit fuzzy? And no, I am not turning this into any Islamaphobia, those who know me will realise I am a person of no religion.

I have seen the countless condemnation from Nigerians, West Africans and a lot of Human beings of all sorts. Yet one thing that I am yet to see is a condemnation from a prominent Islamic figure. Perhaps I missed it? A few of you may be wondering as to why I am making this post, but if any of you follow my posts, I have made it clear that in these times, people have started making an association between Islam, violence and terrorism [whether right or wrong], just the same way there is an association of Catholic churches with Child sexual abuse.

I noticed that when Islam feels threatened or several questions that are considered blasphemous are asked, the prominent islamic leaders are quick to issue a fatua [Fatua is like a direct other which ask every muslim in the world to kill a particular person as it is necessary]. If anyone remembers the Author Suleman Rushdie, a fatua was placed on his head for his works he published against Islam.

Yet here we are, a guy who appears to have travelled to re-known terrorist haven and intent on blowing up a plane but failed in the process. How come no prominent Islamic figure have come out to condemn these attacks? How come no Emir, Sultan or some Grand Khadir have come out to speak against this atrocity? Surely, if any prominent islamic scholar can issue a fatua on the head of anyone, if Islam can go on a rampage for silly things like a drawing of a cartoon, surely, it wont be hard to issue a condemnation of this particular act?

I have tried speaking to my friend - who is a Muslim - but he is not able to provide an answer, but instead try and ask if christains should apologise for the action of one man. Well, my argument is that right now, I do not care about the Christian scenario he is painted. This is about Islam, and as such let us deal with that. After all, this guy read the same Quran as any other muslims and prayed 5 times a day as them and most likely give sakath. . . .So why no one is making no condemnation?

If no condemnation is forth coming, this is doing nothing but reinforcing the view that Islam, violence and terrorism goes hand in hand.

Opinions please.
- The answer and reason is simple, its because those prominent figures know that Islam supports terrorism . . . hence their silence.
PoliticsRe: Breaking News: Mutallab Family Issues Statement by No2Atheism(m): 8:52pm On Dec 28, 2009
ferdiii:
I didn't see Allah, Insha Alla there oh!falsehood!Charade!
baby4u2:
Guy wait sef. Who really issued this press statement. Do muslims say AMEN? Please read again
- It might be an honest oversight

or

- It might be an intentional act of trying to look less islamic so that they would not arouse the suspicion of the american authorities,  cus you know that it pays the Father of the boy not to get CIA and FBI on his tail . . . hence it pays them to use secular words in the statement . ,   grin grin grin

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Personally,

- I don't think the Father has anything to do with what happened (i.e. I don't think the Father has anything to do with the terrorist attempt of his son). . . nevertheless I also think the Father is also a secretive Islamic apologist/lobbyist considering he's the chairman of an islamic bank.
PoliticsRe: Breaking News: Mutallab Family Issues Statement by No2Atheism(m): 8:17pm On Dec 28, 2009
Kobojunkie:
You still have not answered the question. How do you know he was not THOROUGHLY SCANNED?

How do you know this explosive was on him when he was SCANNED or Thoroughly SCANNED?  


This actually makes this even better. Now, following what you have above, Answer the questions please.

If, according to you, they can detect drugs even on those that swallowed them, and are NOT on a watch list, why were they unable to detect this thing strapped on this man? I mean consider that the druggies don’t even need to be on a watch list to be checked or even double checked.
- Very good points have been raised . . .

- Its either because they intentionally wanted him to escape detection and hence succeed enough to cause a false flag operation . . . or. . . its because some people were basically not doing their job.
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by No2Atheism(m): 8:12pm On Dec 28, 2009
chocomillo:
It is no coincidence that the 'device' failed AGAIN. Africans are not generally a suicidal people for any cause.[/b]In fact,the records clearly shows that the suicidal muslims are mostly from the Arabian peninsula,where the sand has gotten mixed in with their brains lipsrsealed
- True that Africa are generally not suicidal . . . hence why its was easy to displace indigenous africans away from North Africa when Europeans and Arabs started taking over there . . .

- Nevertheless please note that years of brainwashing through islam can do a lot of damage to the mind of a normal African . . . thereby turning a normally passive African into a suicidal one. . .

- Hence at the end of the day . . .the problem is Islam (cus these people are basically carrying out what [b]Islam
tells them to do)
TV/MoviesRe: Hollywood: Favourite Movies, Actors and Awards. Tinseltown reviews & Gossip by No2Atheism(m): 6:43pm On Dec 28, 2009
Just came back from watching Avatar 3D . . . i was impressed . . .(even though i have watched it in 1D before  grin . . . don't ask me how  grin).

I am officially now a convert of the 3D movie concept . . . initially i tut it was just all hype . . . but now i think i am converted.
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by No2Atheism(m): 10:28pm On Dec 27, 2009
[quote author=metal-gong link=topic=371719.msg5196504#msg5196504 date=1261949185]Hausa and Yoruba terrorists tarnishing the international image of Ndigbos. . .
Shameless animals!! shocked[/quote]trouble-maker
PoliticsRe: Breaking News: Another Nigerian Arrested On Same Detroit Route! by No2Atheism(m): 9:43pm On Dec 27, 2009
shesi:
my guy this is not a black issue. Making things difficult for Nigerians, yes. But not all blacks. that's ridiculous.
To a typical Black man . . . all chinese or japanese or korean people look the same . . . grin

Hence do not be suprised if a typical White person also considers most Black people look the same . . . hence to them, how would they differentiate between a Nigerian and a Ghanian and an Angolan . . . hence that is why i said that this Northern muslim as not only created travelling problems for Nigerians he as infact created travelling issues for Black people in general . . .

Cus its only when passports are checked that people would really know the difference . . . just as I likewise do not know the difference between Egyptian Arab and Saudi Arabian Arab . . .cus they look the same as far as I am concerned.

Hence black people would start getting profiled as terrorists unless people find a way to dress in a particular way that makes them stand out as non-Nigerians. grin grin grin

Men i pity those that have to urgent get a Visa or make a travelling arrangement . . .cus serious security assessements would make such very difficult now . . .
PoliticsRe: Breaking News: Another Nigerian Arrested On Same Detroit Route! by No2Atheism(m): 9:38pm On Dec 27, 2009
Men . . . i think its better for Nigeria to split up so that only Northerners get to bear the image problem associated with terrorist . . .it is going to take a lot of years for this media image of terrorist to go away . . .even though i am personally no longer completely believing the whole story being told by the US about the incident.

Nevertheless that bottomline is that Nigeria has now been labelled with the word "Terror" thanks to the barbaric religion known as Islam . . .yet despite all of this Nigeria is being strangled by Northern selfish interest that has done nothing but draw back this country . . .

I think the earlier Nigeria splits up the better . . .
PoliticsRe: Breaking News: Another Nigerian Arrested On Same Detroit Route! by No2Atheism(m): 9:31pm On Dec 27, 2009
- This is starting to sound like a conspiracy against Nigeria . . .  grin grin grin . . .

- I am starting to suspect maybe US is trying to achieve a particular immediate goal hence all this negative publicity about Nigeria . . .
PoliticsRe: Breaking News: Another Nigerian Arrested On Same Detroit Route! by No2Atheism(m): 9:27pm On Dec 27, 2009
OAM4J:
may be the guy was tired of the evil look around him, then decided to lock himself in the toilet.

It will be difficult travelling as a black man this days. I actually pity the guy.
Am telling you, not only has this northern muslim made things difficult for nigerians in particular . . . he seems to have succeeded in making things difficult for Blacks worldwide . . .(since its not straightforward to know who is Nigerian without first checking the passport),
PoliticsRe: Maryam Babangida Is Dead! by No2Atheism(m): 8:05pm On Dec 27, 2009
@sagamite

- At times one has to wonder whether westerners have a name for the allergy of not having an allergy . . . grin

- We Africans do not realise that we seriously need to be grateful that we hardly have any allergies . . . (except the ajebotas)

- Western food tire me i ves quick quick start to dey cook for myself . . .except when hunger wire me too much that there is no time to cook.

- The whole concept of going to restaurant is so that they can go and eat food that is cooked by those amongst them that know how to cook . . .even their cooked food sed get as it be . . .

- Africans keep simple and with quality . . . Egusi+ Edoor + Beef + Fish + Ponmo  then test it with Pounded Yam . . .  grin . . .

men i think i need to cook proper stew soon and stop drinking Gari . . .and stop eating concotion . . . grin
Christianity EtcRe: The First Suicide Bomber Is In The Bible! by No2Atheism(m): 6:17pm On Dec 27, 2009
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=372212.msg5195007#msg5195007 date=1261933932]use your brain cells and figure out the corelation. . .thats if you have them.[/quote]angry

Tudor what would you do if someone discovered a drug that makes it impossible to insult people within english sentences . . .

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@topic

Technically speaking . . . one can call what Samson did a suicide . . .however why don't you remove the reference of "bomb" since there is nothing like bomb in the account
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fan Thread: For Gunners Only. by No2Atheism(m): 5:39pm On Dec 27, 2009
- Abeg leave Eduardo alone . . . most people can hardly run after such an injury talkless of being back to form . . .

- The problem with Eduardo is in the head . . .it has nothing to do with his skills . . .

Notice that he is getting into the positions hence the issue has to do with his head and not his football skills . . . its a miracle that he is even back to the level that we are talking about the chances he is missing and not about whether he is even playing football properly.


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Men ManUtd really look very ordinary . . . and i am really starting to feel sorry for them sef . . . cus it seems like any team is now capable of beating them . . .
PoliticsRe: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by No2Atheism(m): 5:34pm On Dec 27, 2009
kaypinchi:
Imagine, the guy is on Facebook. I guess his fb friends are in trouble.
- That is very true . . .

- US would be investigating each and every links and friends that he might have . . .hence why FB looks dangerous all of a sudden cus you never know the kind of person that you are associated with there.
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by No2Atheism(m): 5:17pm On Dec 27, 2009
Lagosboy:
Ol pal no need to assaisante me here before i die, if you do who would you debate with wink

You read my condmenation, its in english.

You should understand that sometimes , there are people that like to look at issues from verious angles andnot just the apparent.

Read my post again i said"It is apparent that this is a terrorist act and i condemn it". My analysis is simple trying to understand what happened and all the parties involved. My questions of a sting operation is valid as several people have been caught on sting operation. It is a simple no or yes.

You know quite well from my posts and our past discussion i am not one who preaches terrorism in the name of islam. However i belong to the school of leftist who questions why this things happens in the first place.

I am not the only saying the whole picture is not complete and until it is we still remain in specualation.

Anyway arsenal won  grin  let me go enjoy my day  grin
- Okay then . . .  try to reduce the analysis its making you sound like someone that secretly supports what happened. . . .

- Analysis is good and even me sef I do not trust the Americans as a result of their historical tendency to bully other people . . . . however in this case. . . an act of terrorism was alleged to have been done . . . .hence we need to be careful not to over-analyse so as not to look like we are trying to explain away what happened.

- On a more serious note . . .I am starting to worry that Yoruba muslims are tending towards making the same mistakes that ancient yorubas of ilorin . . .

- I can see that Lateef Adegbite is starting to spin what happened . . . the fact is that most non-muslim Nigerians are not fooled . . . people have now woken up to the fact that Most muslims in Nigeria support violence committed in the name of Islam. . . I have seen it first hand in OAU and this quotation below also shows someone who also witnessed it first hand . . . hence as far as I am concerned: "majority of muslims are just ticking time bombs waiting to explode and kill non-muslims at the drop of the hat"

namski:
Guy I guess you understand how these people reason. Before I left Naija, I worked in one of the banks in Nigeria and I tell you something that shocked me beyond believe. I was just newly employed and my Head of Operation, a Yoruba Muslim, ICAN qualified with an MBA. By every ramification a very well educated guy and was doing very well with the bank (I think he was a Dpty Mgr then). This guy i refer to jumped up in celebration as the news of 911 was announced before he realised he was in a banking environment, but by then the harm had been done. Obviously all of us took our distance from the guy and after about a month he asked to be re-deplyed to another branch. I can mention his name if need be. These guys are plain bastards and I still don't understand why I am the same country with them and we keep pretending to be brothers. ONE NATION my foot - break up you silly thing called Nigeria!!!
It is sad to say but sooner or later, I forsee a time when majority of Yoruba muslims might get to the point in which they are indistinguishable from their northern counterparts as far as violence and intolerance is concerned . . . . .cus as they say: the fruit does not fall far from the tree . . .hence sooner or later, the violent and barbaric nature of Mohammed would become more prominently displayed in Yoruba muslims.

Hence Islam can be said to be a threat to the future Unity of Yoruba people . . . (Yorubas of Ilorin are an example of what the future holds for Yorubas that consider a muslim brother to be more important than a non-muslim blood brother)
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by No2Atheism(m): 3:38pm On Dec 27, 2009
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Lagosboy:
These are exactly the kind of questions I have asked all along and someone calles me terrorist apologist.

He cooked it in the toilets which is hidden from anyone and went to the seat to blow it where everyone will see him , this is very foolish to me. Honestly i still smell a rat until the whole picture is clear.
@lagosboy

You are starting to sound like a typical violent muslim . . .

- why are you bothering about the analysis of how he prepared the bomb. . .

- I do not care how he prepared the bomb . . .

- Stop trying to derail the thread with useless and idiotic analysis of what you think might have happened. . .


- WHAT DOES IT MATTER HOW IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE . . .

- WHAT DOES IT MATTER WHETHER HE PREPARED IT IN THE TOILET OR THE KITCHEN OR THE LIVINGROOM. . .

THE BOTTOMLINE IS THAT IT IS REPORTED THAT HE HAS CONFESSED TO BEING A TERRORIST . . .

Stop making silly excuses that sound like you are trying to explain how the chicken crossed the road . . . we do not care and do not want to know . . . The bottom line is that people could have lost their lives and their loved ones merely based on the action of this Real Muslim (that was doing exactly as Allah instructed) . . .


I was initially starting to think that you would for the first time actually choose to completely condemn what happened without trying to explain it away . . . yet it seems you are hell bent on explaining away the unexplainable. . . guess a leopard can't really change its spots hence why you seem to be hell bent on going on with your should have could have nonsense and useless supposed analysis of what might have happened.

Infact i am starting to suspect that[b] you are not happy that he did not succeed[/b] . . . you are starting to sound as if you wish he had succeeded.

This your mentality and attempt at obsfucation of the facts is that reason why i said: Yoruba muslims are starting to become as dangerous as the northern muslims . . .cus the utterances that come out of your mouths sometimes on nairaland sometimes makes it difficult to differentiate the intent. .
PoliticsRe: Northwest Flight 253 Leg-bomber Is Son Of Dr.umaru Abdul Muttalab, by No2Atheism(m): 10:47am On Dec 27, 2009
anataala:
@lady t, pls i beg u to take things easy, why are u insulting our religion, respect your self, in any religion in the world u will find poeple that are not following the true teaching of their religion, no religion in the world teach violence and attach to innocent poeple, islam does not encourage terrorism like wise xristianity, even in UK i believe u can remember Norther island uptil today u will be seeying terrosrist attach and are xristian but that does not mean we classfied all xristian in norther island terrorist
It deserves to be insulted and exposed cus its a fraud and lies and just mere concoction of mohammed's imagination, cus its nothing more than a death cult . . . in which people are threatened with violence to become muslim and likewise threatened with death when they make the mistake of converting away from islam . . .
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by No2Atheism(m): 10:03am On Dec 27, 2009
@el razur


- Facts do not matter as far as islam and its apologists are concerned . . . . what matters is "death to amerrika" grin . . .

- No muslim would ever admit anything that would make islam look bad . . .the best they are going to do is say "islamic extremists" did it, pretending as if Mohammed himself was not an islamic extremist and hence anyone trying to emulate mohammed automatically becomes a terrorist himself or herself.
TV/MoviesRe: Hollywood: Favourite Movies, Actors and Awards. Tinseltown reviews & Gossip by No2Atheism(m): 9:53am On Dec 27, 2009
spikedcylinder:
Its true o. A friend I was supposed to go and see it with told me last night,
Spikedcylinder . . . but how is that possible. . . I am assuming you are in Nigeria, hence i doubt Nigerians are that crazy about movies and cinemas . . .

Even if you are not in Nigeria as we speak, do you realise the implication of having tickets booked till July . . . that means 5 X 12 X 28 hours of cinema . . .haba now . . .


Yes i understand that people might be rushing to see it now . . . but haba July . . . .thats too much now Spikedcylinder . . .haba.
TV/MoviesRe: Hollywood: Favourite Movies, Actors and Awards. Tinseltown reviews & Gossip by No2Atheism(m): 9:25am On Dec 27, 2009
spikedcylinder:
Avatar's tickets are sold out till July. Imagine?!?!?
Sherlock Holmes, anyone?
In which country or state . . . shocked shocked shocked . . . is it me or is everyone hyping it too much.

Yes i rate it on the same level as Terminator 2 . , but please how can tickets be booked till July . . .
FamilyRe: Man Encouraged Wife To Sleep With Men For Kids, Now Wants The Children Returned by No2Atheism(m): 9:01am On Dec 27, 2009
Check the definition of impotence on this weblink

http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/html/Impotence.html

The definition given for impotence on that is not as bad as people make it out to be . . .
FamilyRe: Man Encouraged Wife To Sleep With Men For Kids, Now Wants The Children Returned by No2Atheism(m): 8:47am On Dec 27, 2009
This question might sound weird or naive . . .but what exactly does it mean for a man to be impotent . . .

- does it mean he cannot impregnate a woman by physically sleeping with her even though he is still producing sperms.

or

- does it mean his sperm cannot fertilise the egg of a woman.

or

- does it mean his is unable to even sleep with a woman . . .even though he is still producing sperms.

or

- does it mean he is unable to sleep with a woman and he is also not producing sperms.


Cus from my own little understanding if he can have sex with his wife but cannot impregnate her then wats the problem so long as it is still possible for him to artificially inseminate her eggs with his sperm . . .


Its understandable that there might not be technologies like that in the past, but at least now that there is tech like that, is it not possible for him to at least try to see if she is still producing eggs so that his sperm (which a man is supposed to have all throughout his life) can then be used to artificially inseminate her.
FamilyRe: Man Encouraged Wife To Sleep With Men For Kids, Now Wants The Children Returned by No2Atheism(m): 8:40am On Dec 27, 2009
- Restitution can be a very painful process . . . from experience  cry . . . and the reality is that you can spend your entire life doing restitution without any end in sigth . . . hence the issue has to be handled from the sincerity of heart and looking for a partner/people that would not keep your shame a secret but instead are willing to support you through the trauma of guilt and shame . . and also willing to truthfully reveal your shame.

- In terms of this story, i would have merely advised the man to just let the children know the situation and also[b] let the men involved[/b] know the situation instead of trying to force the children out of the house to pacify his conscience . . .cus in reality the only people that were wronged by his actions are the children, his immediate family member and the men involved.

- We humans interact since the day we were born hence if we start making restitution for each and every wrong thing we did in life, life itself would grind to a halt . . .nevertheless that does not mean we should not do restitution, hence where it becomes necessary to have a sincere heart and people around you to discuss with and determine what is right and what is wrong.

- It is better for the children to decided themselves whether they wish to stay with him or not . . . cus in reality . . . he is about to affect the life of at least 3 children . . .

- He has no right to seek to divorce the woman considering that the woman stood with him and agreed to sleep with other men to fufil his wish in the onset . . .

- Would they ever forget the problem . . . i doubt it, however healing and trying to overcome the problem can be done by informing the children and the men involved, and also having the courage to tell the truth when anyone decides to ask him about the children . . .

- What he is doing now would not change the past . . . hence divorcing the woman would not change the past . . .cus the reality is that the woman would always remain his wife cus the fact is that the bible does not really recognise such a divorce cus in reality the wife did not commit adultery becuase he himself was the one who told the wife to sleep with other men . . . it was not the idea of the woman.

- That is why the bible says a man that finds a wife (not a love mate) finds a good thing, cus the reality is that sooner or later most of us (including me) are bound to do things or get involved in things that we regret. . . it is the wife or husband that is going to help us through those issues.

- It feels like he is trying to justify his own conscience by crucifying the wife . . . he is not right in trying to force the woman to comply, she has to come to that realisation herself and on her own.


Siena:
Poor kids!

I feel sorry for the wife too. As for the husband, well, I feel his new faith came at the wrong time.

And at a price too.
True repentance always comes at a price . . . hence why it helps not to lead a promiscous life and try to do as much good as possible so that when the time of reckoning comes . . . there would be as little scars as possible.

coolier:
Men!!! Now he is turning the tables against her when all she's ever done is stand by him, protect and shield him from the greatest embarrassment.  angry
That is the part that I also do not like . . .cus all she has done is love him and do as he requested . . .


When the threat became much, I had no choice but to involve his family members who tried to talk sense into his head,” the woman said.
This is the most dangerous part of resitution in that we can sometimes overdo it . . . cus we think that is what helps us overcome our guilt . . . the reality is that "talking about it" . . . reality is that resitution is just an evidence of  a sincere heart . . .it is not a prerequisite for salvation (otherwise the thief on the cross would not have been saved).

Hence why resitution must be done with wisdom . . .
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by No2Atheism(m): 6:51pm On Dec 26, 2009
Gayigaskia:
3 African men flown to U.S. for trial linked to terrorism, drugs
By Terry Frieden, CNN Justice Producer
December 18, 2009 2:15 p.m. EST
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Authorities say Mali men conspired to to provide material support to foreign terrorist group
Suspects will appear Friday in federal court in New York, DEA says
Documents reveal DEA sting with agents claiming to have ties to Colombia guerilla army
Alleged plot involved Africa-to-Europe cocaine shipment, with terror group aiding trafficking
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U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration
Al Qaeda in the Maghreb
Washington (CNN) -- Three African men suspected of ties to al Qaeda in North Africa have been arrested in Ghana and flown to New York to face charges that they engaged in drug trafficking and supported terrorism, federal officials said Friday.
The three Mali natives will stand trial for an alleged drug conspiracy and conspiracy to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization, authorities said.
The Drug Enforcement Administration, which announced the criminal complaint, said the suspects will appear Friday in federal court in New York.
Court documents released in Washington reveal a DEA undercover operation that included agents claiming to have ties to FARC, the guerilla army in Colombia that the United States has designated as a terrorist organization.
The alleged plot involved shipment of cocaine from Africa to Europe, with al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb helping facilitate the trafficking.
The suspects are identified as Oumar Issa, Idriss Abdelrahman and Harouna Toure.
Authorities said the apparent ties between the suspected African terror group members and the cocaine traffickers appear to represent an increasingly global effort to use the drug trade to support terrorism. While such a relationship is long-standing in Afghanistan, it has not been common in Africa, officials said.

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Source: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/12/18/africa.narco.terror.plot/index.html


These fools are all over the world now, and they will loose at the end
Can someone please explain to me why 3 African men:

- Arrested on african soil .

- Nationals of Mali .

- Are being prosecuted in an American court .

Does that not sound like Imperialism or something or when did African men become subject to American courts . . .
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by No2Atheism(m): 6:47pm On Dec 26, 2009
gidson12:
why are u against Nigerians trying to make there opinion, are u here to ridicule or to be part of the forum, even if u have a point u should nt make it in a ridiculous way sad
Please take note that there are a number of users on nairaland that are not Nigerians but instead seem to be hell bent on fostering a particular worldview . . .

- Some people are on nairaland mainly to spy on nigerians . . .

- Others are on nairaland mainly to try to control what nigerians are saying . . .

- Others are on nairaland mainly to create trouble and problems between different sections of Nigerians. . .

Hence do not be suprised by what you have observed
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by No2Atheism(m): 6:34pm On Dec 26, 2009
Jarus:
I'm a Muslim and without any regrets, irrespective of the undoings of some bad eggs among us. As for those blabbing that every Muslim is a potential terrorist, I have grown beyond engaging those people and would rather ignore them.

Farouk's case is most likely to be a case of overzealousness or youthful exuberance or exaggerated piety. It is most condemnable and embarrassing.

As for his father, Alhaji Muttalab, I only pity the man. The man is arguably the north's most experienced banker and a former MD of UBA and until last week Chairman of First bank.


And the claim that he was the one that recommended Sanusi appears true. I remember reading the full story in, I think, TELL or Newswatch soem months ago. Yar'adua, worried by the situation in the banking sector, I read, contacted Muttalab as the north's leading and most experienced banker and asked him, who do you think can do the job effectively, and he advised yar'adua that he knew one boy, very brilliant and has a non-nonsense mien, hsi name is Lamido Sanusi. That was how Yar'adua invited SLS and spoke with him and got the job unsolicited.

Still on Farouk, the father had already raised alarm over some extreme religios views of the boy months ago, as reported in this Thisday report:
On Sanusi, I have read much of Sanusi's writings on Islamic issues(many of which I still have on my system as I type now) and know his views and I'm pretty sure he will never approve suicide bombing of any form.

And on a personal note now, I always appreciate silverspoons trying to uphold their religious beliefs in the midst of distracting wealth. It's rare and most children from stupendously rich homes tend not to care about religion, Islam especially. However one trend I have observed these days, like the case of farouk, is that some of them go to the extreme. I remember reading how the son of a former governor of Kwara state also joined a boko-haramesque sect some years ago and was caught, alongside others, training in Adamawa/cameroun border. It's a pity.
Al Taqiya . . .
PoliticsRe: Nigeria's Reputation May Have Now Hit It's Lowest Possible by No2Atheism(m): 5:56pm On Dec 26, 2009
Katsumoto:
Why do we have to be in this sh.it together? The Northern politicians have been using religion as a weapon for years; but it was always kept internally. Now this fool as managed to export it.
Exactly . . .most Nigerians have normally been suffering and smiling despite the problem of Islamic violence in Nigeria . . .now this alleged incident has managed to make us an international point of reference . . .


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By the way, did anyone notice that Nigeria and [b]Venezuela [/b]were mentioned as war zones in the "Avatar" movie . . .
PoliticsRe: This Is The Beginning Of Hell For Nigeria And Nigerians by No2Atheism(m): 5:51pm On Dec 26, 2009
It would become more difficult for Nigerians to obtain Visas and Residence permits, infact I am suspecting that this event might end up affecting the Nigerian outcome of the US Visa lottery . . .

Also i agree with Horus that it would be very very difficult for Nigerians with muslim names (and who do not have a very powerful father) to even have an hope of obtaining a Visa to a Western Country.
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by No2Atheism(m): 5:28pm On Dec 26, 2009
[quote author=tpia. link=topic=371719.msg5189543#msg5189543 date=1261844348]I keep saying- many Nlers are agents and fronts for various subversive organizations.[/quote]I agree and i also suspect as much most especially those that seem to be hell bent on creating inflammatory threads
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by No2Atheism(m): 4:59pm On Dec 26, 2009
Uche2nna:
Yeah, right!!!!

Who would the Islamists extremists (No2Atheism insists that there is no such term) hearken to: Dora Akunyili or the Imams?
undecided

The fact is that saying some people are Islamic extremists is a political correct statement used by the west in the hope of peppering over the fact that:

- A moderate muslim is one who is not truly practising islam.
- An Islamist extremist is actually one who is truly practising islam.


True Islam permits "muslims" to kill "jews and christians" . . .hence those who are not extremists amongst them are actually the ones who are not true muslims.

A number of the people claiming to be moderate muslims are just pretending, because in Islam, muslims are permitted to lie and pretend as if they are not practising true islam: this pretence is known as "Al Taqiya".

This means that so called moderate muslims can be secretly supporting "Islamic Terrorists" while they continue to openly oppose them, hence that method would be used to deceive non-muslims until the time that "muslims" are strong and many enough to impose and enforce sharia on those non-muslims.


It is this "Al Taqiya" infested method of classifying some people as moderate muslims and others as "Islamic Extremists" that helps muslims to deceive westerners and slowly but surely continue to impose themselves in the west as the politically correct europeans continue to deceive themselves.

Islam is a cancer that has been spreading in Africa since Mohammedan Arabs started invading and taking over Ancient Egypt and North Africa, Islamisation of the world is the goal of Arabs and their brainwashed Black muslims . . . hence one of the most reasonable solutions to protect the South of Nigeria is for Nigeria to split up in order to protect the predominantly Christian South from being over-ran by the brainwashed muslim North. . . cus slowly but surely these same mentality which has taken hold in Northern Nigeria (hence why a muslim Hausa is capable of killing his own Christian Hausa just because of islam) would make them continue to want to kill people for no other reason other than they claim to be doing it for Allah.


This same intention of Islamisation of non-muslims is evidently seen as one of the reasons behind the years of War between the Arabised Africans in Sudan and normal Sudanese Africans.


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Lets not deceive ourselves. . . Terrorists would always exist cus being a terrorist is part and parcel of Islam. . .

Mohammed himself was a terrorist . . . he was just a very successful terrorist.

Hence in reality, a moderate muslim is one who is not like Mohammed . . . a Islamic Terrorist is actually one who is behaving like Mohammed
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Man Attempts To Detonate Explosive On Delta Flight In US by No2Atheism(m): 3:17pm On Dec 26, 2009
One of the questions i raised has been answered by the BBC website:

- He did not occupy the whole building.

- He merely stayed in a basement flat.


Hence the next questions are that:


- Was 4 million pounds the amount paid as rent or is the amount just the overall value of the building itself irrespective of the student or students living there . . .

- Is the 4million pounds the rent for the whole duration of his stay or just for a particular period . . .

- Did he pay for the rent himself or did someone else pay the rent . . .  

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