₦airaland Forum

Princek12:
Honestly I am not trying to stereotype Islam since I am not very knowledgeable with Islam. But why is it that all these terrorists who are willing and do blow up themselves are always Muslim? The Islamic governments and authorities need to take a proactive step by rooting and shutting down the mosques and operations of Imams who teach extreme and anti-West Islam.

This is getting out of hand, for it will increase the fear of traveling and discrimination against innocent Nigerians.

terrorism is a mechanism for defending islam hence forget about ur suggestion cus . . . without violence, even mohhamed would not have succeeded.

ode remo: The appt. is rented out to students. lets stay with facts pls.

- Is he occupying the whole building . . .

- Is the building being occupied by other students . . .

- Is 4million pounds the amount paid for rent by him or is it the amount just the overall value of the building itself irrespective of the student or students living there . . .

- Is the 4million pounds the rent for the whole duration of his stay or just for a particular period . . .

- Is he the only one in the building or are there other people in that building . . .

ode remo: The appt. is rented out to students. lets stay with facts pls.

- Is he occupying the whole building . . .

- Is the building being occupied by other students . . .

- Is 4million pounds the amount paid for rent by him or is it the amount just the overall value of the building itself irrespective of the student or students living there . . .

Lagosboy:
I have never for once on this forum said it wasnt a terrorist act. I have only been trying to analyse the whole event and it doesnt add up, only a fool will say it is not a terrorist act.

-  I apologise to you for implying otherwise . . .

-  I am trying to point out to you that you should please stop arguing about the semantics of how it happened and what effects might occur, this is because this gives an impression that you are trying to obsfucate the issue.

- Since we both agree that its a terrorist act, then lets leave it at that . . . and instead focus on other investigations surrounding the issue.

[quote author=Sunny_bobo link=topic=371719.msg5188414#msg5188414 date=1261831917]According to Latest Sky News sources, the guy is living in a 4 million pounds rented property in Central London.[/quote]That is not a big deal for a typical Nigerian that has been at the head of an organisation . . .this raises the question however as to who is paying the rent of the property and how much his Father earns as the chairman of First Bank and the new Islamic Bank . . .

Is the rent taken out in the guys name or was it taken out in the name of someone else. . .

@Lagosboy

Your statements are starting to become semantics . . .

- It was a terrorist act to explode something on the plane whether the plane is on the ground or in the air is irrelevant . . . how many people are killed or injured is irrelevant cus it would still be a terrorist act. . . hence to be frank, i do not understand your semantics and attempts to obsfucate the issue as if this is an aeronautical engineering class.

axeman85:
the guy must be a very silly fellow becos if indeed he has been successful , nigeria cant stand america in any way shape of rom if they decide to retaliate.  we are known for 419, identity theft, fraud, corruption, and now suicide bombers!!!!

Am telling you its not looking good . . . to be a Nigerian right now . . .

This guy has just diligently destroyed any future prospect of giving any Nigerian  US VISA

- Am telling you . . .his actions is going to have serious ramifications for Nigerians that are genuinely trying to travel to Europe or US either for business or vacation or academics. . .

- It seems Nigeria is about to go back to the days in which only the people with very deep Official and Diplomatic connections even get the opportunities of being able to travel to Europe and US . . .

One word of advise:


If you are not a muslim and you have a beard, I would advise that you start shaving it now.

If you are not a muslim and you have a moustache, I would advise that you start shaving it now.


Cus sooner or later western media would start associating Nigerians with terrorists and hence even non-muslims with beards would start getting undue attentions . . .

Lagosboy:
Buddie I know you are definately smarter than this and also intelligent. What has islamic bank got to do with terrorism? I know you are obsessed with anyhting islam but common an islamic bank.

- Yes you are correct it has nothing to do with Terrorism . . .

- I never said it had anything to do with Terrorism hence I do not know why and what you are responding to . . . notice what I said and I am quoting below:

No2Atheism: Yes its valid to question the intentions of the Father by his connection to the so called "Islamic Bank". . .

- Nevertheless the Fathers involvment with "Islamic Banking" shows that the Father is associated with a group of people who intend to practise Islamic financial values . . .hence which gives an insight into the mindset of the Father as regards Islam and the interaction of Islam with the general society.

You live in UK and you know the islamic bank of Britain, HSBC shariah banking, Lyods and others they have to be investigated for terrorism according to you assertions.

Common buddie dont go this low

I must confess that I actually like the financial idea of Islamic banking  , however I do not like the Islamic motives behind Islamic banking . . . because I know that most things about Islam is geared towards either violent or non-violent Islamisation. Hence as far as I am concerned, I consider "Islamic Banking" to be a Trojan Horse . . .

ElRazur:
You are funny. You do realise it makes no difference whatsoever if it was done in mid air or on touching ground? I asked you several questions already and you cannot answer them.

Please explain to me in which ever you can, why was he trying to "ignite" a form of what appears to be explosives on board. . . .In this day and age?

- Don't mind Lagosboy . . .

- I think serious investigations need to be carried out on the guy so as expose other Nigerian that might be involved in the whole plot . . .ITS HIGH TIME WE NIP THIS ISLAMIC TERRORISM IN THE BUD IN NIGERIA BEFORE IT GETS OUT OF HAND.

ElRazur:
BBC news. On TV right now. Apparently, there is a student with the same name on a student visa. . . . He is reported to be an engineering student in UCL. Police still carrying out checks.

koolchicco:
Its factual! The UK have started the inquiry and already gone to his UNI for further Info.

Follow it up on SKY news if u wish.

Thanks . . .

ElRazur:
For all we know, he may have developed nerves and have conflict within him?

A valid point . . . assuming the guy is guilty of what he is being accussed of doing . . .(yes even He has to be given the benefit of doubt cus the only things we have are the news reports. . .)

I however refuse to accept that he was acting alone . . . hence if i were the USA i would investigate each and every passenger that boarded that plane from Nigeria, up to Amsterdam and then up to the US.

Cus its possible he might actually have handlers either on or off the plane . . .

brownbonno:
CIA should conduct a background check on this dude and his family.



The father  is a heavy investor/director of THE PROPOSED JAIZ INTERNATIONAL BANK PLC(Islamic Bank).So there should be fundamentalist blood in his family.

- It is not fair to accuse the whole family with the blanket statement like that.

- Yes its valid to question the intentions of the Father by his connection to the so called "Islamic Bank". . .

- Yes its valid to question the son accused in connection with the Explosion on the Delta airways . . .  

- I would give you the benefit of doubt cus I was likewise tempted to come to the same conclusions . . . but i realised that its wrong to come to such conclusions.

[size=18pt]Hence let us note that it is not fair for us to now accuse the whole family of something when we do not have any proof of such  . . . [/size]

ElRazur:
Once you offer an opinion and quit reading your psychology text book I will gladly answer your questions.

In the mean time, I guess it is absolutely in your twisted world to set alight a form of explosion on a plane? Woah. Funny enough, the UK are now seeking further information on the guy. Speaks volumes. Oh, matches is a controlled form of explosion.

- Can you please provide a source for the highlighted.

- If you statement is true, then it means that Immigration and Visa issues is going to much harder for all Nigerians from now onwards . . .

wirinet:
2. We understand that most Nigerians are unhappy with the US military activities in Muslim countries- especially the Muslims but i do not think the resentment is strong enough to carry out suicide bombings of America's interest, especially when we are not directly affected by US invasions and bombings. We are not even told the grievances of the suspected bomber but we told all his other claims.

Yes i oppose US invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq , even though I am not a muslim and would never be one. . . nevertheless it is quite assuming of you to say that most Nigerians are unhappy with US invasion of Muslim countries:

1. How many muslim countries.
2. How many Nigerians are you talking about.
3. Which kind of Nigerian are you talking about.

Hence overall The jury is still out on this one cus on one hand you are correct that there is information management and possible propaganda by the Americans, yet on the other hand, you are making a general statement about about Nigerians and US invasion of muslim countries . . .

@Lagosboy and @mrcrackles. . .

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ARe you saying that you would not do anyting if I burn the Quran in your presence . . .   . . or is this an attempt at obsfucation

jidewura:
Hi all,

my brother was travelling from Gatwick (UK) to Atlanta (US) this morning and told me that after they had passed all security checks , they then rechecked them all over again!!!,  this spells wahala for Nigerians who are ferquent travellers.

If what you say is true . . .then this seems to be the beginning of more and more embarrasment and harrassment of Nigerians . . .as a result of the reported plane explosive thingy. . .

Is this true . . .  can it be true . . . or is this just one of those false sensational news reports all over again . . .

. . . $11 Billion Missing from JVC account involving Nigeria . . .

The following news report . . . if true . . . shows why Nigeria needs to renegotiate its involvement with these foreign operators and why I can careless if Shell decides to leave Nigeria . . . cus at the end of the day, what matters is that Nigeria benefits favourably from any arrangement with any company whether foreign or local. . .

itsmayiela:
the chap may not be a nigerian. if the US claim he is a nigerian,they should tell us the state and local govt in nigeria he hails from. in fact,they should tell us everything about his origin so that we can be sure he's one of us. But why are they so scared that a young man blasted knockout (banger) in an airplane on Xmas day?

- Please go through the previous posts and correct your post otherwise your post would make you look somehow . . .

- There is already a report indicating that he is a Nigerian . . .

debosky:
What is it with the ridiculous denials here? He is a Nigerian national - till contrary evidence comes out he will be regarded as a Nigerian.

If you thought there were issues getting visas before now, it might get a lot worse after this.

My main concern is how did someone with 'significant terrorist' links get admitted on a plane or not subjected to stringent checks?  

- Exactly . . .

- Yes we know nigerian security checks might be useless but at least he ought not to be able to go through western checks. . . at least in Amsterdam  . . .

- This raises the question of what does the west know and why was he not restricted considering that he was already reported to be on a so called list . . .

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=371719.msg5187418#msg5187418 date=1261817413]I don tire for this CNN news report sef.

They just keep repeating "Nigerian national" like dummies.

very dull reporting and what's Obama doing in hawaii[/quote]That is what is called the act of brainwashing  . . . ie. repeat something so many times to people sooner or later it becomes part of their subconscious brain that they cannot separate truth from propaganda. . .hence that they are repeating it means it seems the US has something in store for Nigeria . . .otherwise there would be no need to insist on calling him a Nigerian despite that the reports says he is also an American . . .

Lagosboy:
The guy looks so amateurish and innocent. I dont think he his an AQ member. AQ in 9/11 had 5 members in the plane , so how will the put a silly Nigerian of wealthy background into a plane with a firecracker or banger and expect it it to bring a plane down. The secirty agencies could be overplaying this incident for all i care.

- I have to agree with lagosboy . . .

- Although Lagosboy you have to admit that there is an assumption that the picture is the recent picture of the guy . . .and you also have to admit that there is an assumption that the picture is even how the guy looks now . . .

- Although there is an assumption that[b] there were even any so called AlQeida members on the 9/11 planes[/b] . . .

AjanleKoko:
Too bad. I daresay the guy detonated it by mistake.
Just caught the news on TV now, and it seems the plane was filled with Arab guys. Talk about hitting the wrong target!

Which is starting to make me suspect the following:

- If he is infact guilty, he might not be acting alone even on that plane.

- He might actually be innocent and instead framed with evidence on the plane . . .cus reality i do not think its so difficult to plant something on his seat on the plane . . .cus the fact is that he is going to be suspect cus the thing was found on with respect to him.

Converting to islam in prison was also a sound security step that prisoners in US prisons sometimes take . . . . so please don't give me that hoodoo hoccus pocuss . . .  

Lagosboy:
ol pal dont let us start were we left it again o, the info here isnt ridiculously false . I dont like to derail threads but we could move to the regular section and trash this out.

Muhammed Ali together with Malcom X converted to the orthodox islam and left the "nation of islam - black peoples religion". He his a regular muslim buddie.

Which part of it is false . . .

- That Egyptians (descendants of Ham) were a race of black people and hence not Arabs . . .

- or That Arab colonalisation is currently not going on in Sudan . . .

- or That Arabs did not invade Egypt after the domination of Egypt by the Greco-Romans . . .

- Or that Black Americans became muslims in reaction to Racism . . .

Lagosboy:
Kai na big man son o, I bet the guy is a US citizen but just being called Nigerian.

- Yes you are correct and I have also raised the possibility of that cus I know that Americans might also have an ulterior motive for mentioning that he is a Nigerian . . . 

- Yes we can sometimes agree . . . 

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Assuming the picture being shown is the actual picture of the guy and assuming that that is still how the guy looks on the plane . . . then

- Infact the picture being shown does not even look like that of a stereotypical terrorist . . . unless terrorist have started to look like Ajebota pikin . . .

- Men this is going to be even worse for Nigerians because a lot of Nigerians also look like that hence it means even normally looking nigerians would now be suspected of being terrorists

- Otherwise, if he looks like the stereotypical terrorist, then there is still hope for Nigerians who look normal . . .


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Men just like i said earlier on this thread . . . this incident pissess me off cus it means I now need to shave my beard which I have been trying to grow . . .otherwise I am going to start having issues with the stereotypical image of a terrorist. . .

Lagosboy:
You could start to eradicate muslims by first eradicating your signature. It is Muhammed Alis slogan a muslim convert formely Cascius if you dont know. He his one of the early generations of muslim converts in the US, it is hypocritical to want to eradicate muslims and still leave his slogan on your signature.

Mohammed Ali like so many black americans were duped into accepting islam because they genuinely thought that Islam was "Black Man's" religion because they were trying to fight against racism and in doing so they made the mistake of thinking that the Bible was about Europeans . . .

Most modern day Black American people no longer fall for that trick again . . .hence why you see the growth of the group of people known as Afrocentrists . . . who have come to expose that:

- Arabs are invaders in Africa . . . e.g. Egypt and Sudan

- Arabs are not indigenous to Africa . . .

- Islam was never a Black man's religiion instead islam was and has always been a Sociopolitical tool used by Arabs and non-arabic muslims (such as Fulanis) to gain Political and social power . . . in regions that they end up invading and dominating.

- Ancient Egypt is a Black civilisation . . .Arabs invaded Egypt around 639 AD, far long after Egyptian Empires had already fallen to Greco-Romans . . .

- Sudan is still being invaded till today hence why we have the crises known as Darfur . . .

- Infact even Allah (the Arabic Moon God) considers Arabs to be better than Black people . . . hence it should not suprise people that a brainwashed black man would choose to use a that sounds almost completely Arabic . . . despite that such a black man is not an Arab.

Lagosboy:
No2atheism i know well , he will never accept and will spread information without verifying it please just let my ol pal be. He just has an obessesion with islam.

No2 atheism no shaking its been a long time we crossed each others path though

- Lagosboy how you dey . . .how is family . . . hope everyone is alright . . .

-   . . .guilty as charged as far as Islam is concerned . . . its a false faith and I am not afraid to speak the truth against it . . .  

- How you dey . . . hope naija is treating you well and you are not spending too much money on petrol . . .

- How is Oyb's family doing considering that i see that he now has a new addition to his family . . .

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My weakness as a person is that although I hate islam and would certainly speak against it yet it does not mean i can't joke with muslims infact i can even help muslims with personal issues . . .the problem i have with muslims however is that precendents shows that when push comes to shove and a muslim is faced with the choice of either killing you to please Allah or letting you go without harm . . . precedents shows that a muslim is most probably going to kill you. . .  irrespective of whether he or she is family or not.

For example: Abuzola once declared on this forum that his own blood brother is not his brother  if he is not a muslim and that a fellow muslim who is not his blood brother is actually his brother.


Hence the issue boils down to the fact that:

- A muslim is permitted to kill a non-muslim for Allah . . . hence this makes muslims dangerous whether or not they pretend to be non-violent or not . . . cus the reality is that Allah has already given them permission and license to kill whenever they decide to be violent.


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The one that pains me the most is that: I am very paternalistic about black people in general and Yoruba people in particular hence it saddens me when I see a Yoruba person behaving as if he or she has been completely brainwashed by Arabs so mcuh so that they put muslim interest beyond even his own Yoruba cultural interests . . .

biina:
You are tolerant by condemning an entire religious group based on the action of a minority fraction?

I am tempted to ignore your statements since i am starting to notice that it smacks of mere rhetorics bent on fodging the discussion . . . around mere semantics . . . I do not have time for semantics nor do I have time for trying to knock down "Straw Man Arguments" that I suspect you are setting up.

Hence on a personal level, this would be my last response to you personally on this thread . . .

The following are my responses

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- Who told you the terrorist is a minority . . . how do you know a terrorist is a minority . . . mind you those who know and do not speak against something bad are as guilty as those who actually carry out the act.

- Al Taqiya allows a muslim to pretend to oppose terrorist while actually secretly supporting them . . . hence your statement does not wash .

biina:
You tolerant by demeaning and insulting key figures in the religion of others?  
You are tolerant by classifying all member of a religious group as extremists?  

biina:
You are tolerant by arrogantly defining your opinion as the absolute truth?  

- I am not giving my opinion . . .

- That Mohammed is a peadophile, liar and murderer is not a matter of opinion, it is a fact backed up by even islamic accounts . . .

- That Allah is a moon god is not a matter of personal opinion, it is a fact backed up by facts . . .

- You can choose to be politically correct and all that . . . but i would have non of that and instead i would tell you the blunt truth at all times . . .

- I have never claimed to be perfect and do not intend to do so hence why i always try to do my best to make statements based on facts and why i always do my best to apologise once i realise I had made a wrong or incorrect statement . . .

- Kindly show me where i claimed my opinion is the absolute truth . . .

biina:
and BTW you dont have the authority that Jesus has, so you cant go about judging others

- I am not judging hence quit the straw man arguments . . . I don't have time for the mind games of trying to claim I am intolerant because I insist on speaking the truth.

- I have simply giving you a biblical example showing that you so called statement about tolerance is false and misleading considering that the Bible tells us to always speak the truth at all times . . . hence why I showed you an example of where even The Messiah was very Blunt with the so called religious people (Pharasees) of His time

- Telling the truth is not an act of intolerance, telling the truth is sanctioned by the Bible. . . . unless of course you are suggesting that people should compromise and withhold truthful information all in the name of being tolerant . . .

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This would be my last response to your post cus i have noticed that you are starting to deviate into irrelevances of trying to set up straw-man arguments . . . i sincerely do not have time for that . . .


People on this thread should note that it does not mean that i do not intend to respond to @binna however i realised that it would be a waste of time and inadvertently result in the derailing of the thread if i continue to respond to him . . .

[size=18pt]This thread is about The reports sorrounding the allegation that: a Nigerian (with a muslim name) is accussed of being behind an explosive incident on the Delta Flight in the US. . . [/size]

Lets try and make sure it does not get derailed . . .

itsmayiela:
@Uche2nna and No2Atheism
your views on this topic were rational and objective but its like u guys are getting emotional and are now religiously biased. Honestly,i dont like your derogatory comments about Muslims. You are deviating from the original topic about a single Nigerian that tried to blast knockout on a plane on christmas day.

Remember that cnn & fox are equally mentioning a Nigerian instead of saying a 'terrorist'.obviously,they want to forment crisis in this country and[b] u guys are helping them achieve wat they want, [/b]

Pls watch the cutleries,

I would want to give you the benefit of a doubt and hence assume that you did not see all my previous posts before making this particular post and comments of yours . . .hence assuming that my assumption is true, please take note of the following:


- I have already implied that its possible the event was a false flag operation please go through the previous threads to see where I implied that . . .

No2Atheism:
- This is bound to make life more difficult for legitimate Nigerians travelling abroad . . .

- How are we sure he is really a Nigerian . . .

- He is either a proper terrorist or a retarded person cus the mere fact that he is 23 yr old means he certainly knows that a fireworks is dangerous on a plan. . .

- What the heck is wrong with people . . .  

- Now you see why even the educated muslims on Nairaland are dangerous cus one minute they may look sane . . . the next minute they might just decide to kill themselves for the sake of Allah despite their education  . . .

- People wonder why I do my best to expose islam on nairaland . . . this news report is that reason. Cus most muslims are muslims cus they were born into islam, grew up in islam and are either too self-indulgent or selfish (cus of sexual pleasures in islam) or just simply too scared of being killed as apostates if they decide to leave islam.

- The quran defies and contradicts logic and science . . . hence why an average muslim does not think and reason cus if they reason they end up having cognitive dissonance due to the fact that it becomes clear to them that Mohammed is a liar and fraud and Allah was a moon god worshipped by Arabs even before Mohammed and still worshipped as such till today. . . (hence the Kabba/Black Stone etc).


- The sad thing is that: past reports have already claimed that the US is saying terrorists are infiltrating Nigeria, hence we would never know if this is truely a Nigerian trying to be a terrorist or if this is a false flag operation by the US or whether this is merely a muslim from another country who is trying to claim to be a Nigerian.

- I would appreciate if someone can please confirm whether the person is really a Nigerian or not . . . cus my own instinct tells me that its possible for some people to claim to be Nigerians when they are not. . .

- Nigerian borders are porous hence anyone can come into Nigeria and claim to be a Nigerian . . .for example there are a number of Togolese and Beninoise people in the South West who are claiming to be Nigerians.

- One thing is for sure . . . Nigerians are going to suffer a lot for this . . . in terms of travelling and emigrating to foreign countries.

- This brainwashed islamic mentality is the more reason why I want Nigeria to break-up . . . cus it seems the Northerners are hopeless when it comes to doing idiotic things in the name of islam . . . my worry is that they are starting to infect and infiltrate some South Westerners with the same behave (you needed to come to OAU Ile-Ife) to see how this idiotic and dangerous mindset is gradually affecting and being exhibited by hitherto educated yorubas claiming to be muslims . . .

No2Atheism:
- If he is really an American citizen . . . then its obvious why he is being mentioned as a Nigerian.

- Because its part of Western interest to only mention that he is Nigerian . . .

- This goes to show to all the European wannabe Black people that when push comes to shove, the Western world does not see you as a Westerner but instead they see you as your blood lineage. . . meaning that even if you are a Nigerian American citizen, that still does not make you an American in the eyes of those in power in America, instead you are just a mere statistics cus as far as they are concerned.

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- To make things worse , he is also being reported to be a Student in London . . . hence not only is he going to create problems for Nigerians in the US, he is obviously going to create problems for Nigerians in UK also . . .

Edit:

- I think its high time we solve this bad global image that islam is giving non-muslims Nigerians . . . . . . its bad enough that 419 is already giving Nigeria a bad global image.

No2Atheism:
Exactly . . . it seems a number of muslims simply do not understand and think things through before doing . . . don't they realise that:

- they are powerless against americans as far as military might is concerned, hence they would always get slaughtered when america chooses to go to war with them . . .

- they are going to cause invasion of Nigeria if this continues. . .

- america can choose to defeat arab and muslims counties in just one day "cus they have the military weapons to do that" . . .hence i don't understand why this muslims keep choosing to look for trouble.

- america is just looking for an excuse to invade countries, create more market for their military industrial complex and foster their oil interests . . . hence i don't understand why some muslims seem hell bent on giving america and excuse to invade Nigeria.

- the reason they are in Iraq and Afghanistan is not because they can't win the war there, they have more than enough bombs to bomb both Iraq and Afghanistan and hence kill almost everybody there . . . instead the reason america chooses to suffer causualties there is because they are actually choosing to occupy those two countries . . . hence the normal causualities that comes from occupation.

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- Also note where i have corrected myself . . .

No2Atheism:

- I also suspected that he might not be a Nigerian . . . nevertheless i became convinced he might actually be a Nigerian cus it was reported he is a student in London.

- Do not suprised about him having a funny name . . . . some nigerian muslims have been brainwashed to the point that they hate their own cultural name and instead prefer to call themselves Arabic sounding names  . . .hence another thing now is that there is no guarantee that he is even a Northerner . . .cus its very possible he might even be a southerner (who decided to adopt Arabic names).

- I would correct my posts accordingly . . .

Hence I hereby apologise to Northerners for rushing to the conclusion that he might be a Northerner. . . I am wrong to assume he is a Northerner, cus there is a good chance he might even be a Southerner.

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- So please take note of the above points and see how they answer your own post . . .


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itsmayiela:
Honestly,i dont like your derogatory comments about Muslims

- I am not making derogatory comments I am speaking the truth about Islam: Mohammed is a liar and peadophile . . . Allah is a moon god . . .

biina:
@No2Atheism
You sound no better than the religious extremists you are so quick to condemn. Intolerance is bad, irrespective of where you are coming from. 

- I am not a politically correct person .  . . hence I would give you the blunt truth as far as I am concerned . . .

- I am not too proud to apologise when I beleive I am wrong about something i said or did. . .

- All I have said is the blunt truth about Islam and how it affects Nigeria and the consequence . . .

- If your definition of tolerance is the act of fodging the truth . . . then you can keep such tolerance to yourself . . .

- I personally do not consider myself to be intolerant . . .instead I consider myself to be a blunt person . . . hence I am willing to speak the truth to both Christians and Muslims . . . hence why I do not and would not support the killing of any soul simply because i know its biblically wrong.

- If you think telling the Truth is an act of intolerance . . . then it seems you need to read the bible a little bit more otherwise it seems: your definition of tolerance is going to convict even The Messiah Himself . . . who the bible shows was also very blunt with the Pharasees . . .