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"Voltaire expected that within fifty years of his lifetime there would not be one Bible in the world. His house is now a distribution centre for Bibles in many languages". -- Corrie Ten Boom

i like that particular quote,

To all atheists abeg before you draw your daggers and questions, don't bother abeg i don't have the strength to discuss tonight , i need to rest, i am mentally tired right now.

you can't say we readers are too naive to say the problems being reported in Nigeria are that subtle that we should now try to crucify the messenger and ignore the message.

1. I am not a politically correct person, hence i tell the truth the way it is.

2. I am not saying all readers of the original post about Nigeria are naive, instead what i am saying is that those readers who read the original post about Nigeria, then went ahead to claim there was no problem with the propaganda at the last statement of that original post, are the ones who are naive about past and present global politics, about past and present global policies, about past and present economic policies.

3. Go through all my posts on this thread you would notice that I never said Nigeria did not have problems.

4. Instead I clearly said that Nigeria had crime and corruption problems

5. I also clearly said that Nigerian crime and/or corruption problems is small compared to the global scale or seriousness of crime and/or corruption in certain Western countries like the USA and certain African countries such as South Africa. (e.g. Bernie Maddoff $50 billion ponzi scam to say the least)

6. Above all, the point I am making is that the report in question had no reason to include the statement about the crime problems of Lagos Nigeria in their report, simply because such a statement had absolutely nothing to do with the initial "terrorism" case they were trying to present with regards to their Nigerian US Embassy.

7. Hence the point I was making was that including that statement about "Lagos being riddled with Crime" is just a propaganda statement meant for ulterior motives and nothing more.

8. Then i finally went ahead to show the possible reasons why the western media has been using propaganda statements.

[quote author=B.O.S.S. link=topic=258234.msg3694318#msg3694318 date=1239010737]Very true. But we all watch the documentaries about the gang culture which Los Angeles is being famed for and there's no hiding place when it comes to this as no amount of spinwould do it any good really however as much as the media still try to put a spin to a story, would you at least say how you think the report should have ended?

You should know controversy sells and the media themselves are tryign to sell papers so they have no choice but to use the very left winged choice of words which would paint the very picture they want people to see. Either way though,I don't think there's any form of propaganda in the report.Though I think the motto of journalism is being taken to the extreme by trying to milk the negativity of Lagos State to the extreme but come on now, you can't say we readers are too naive to say the problems being reported in Nigeria are that subtle that we should now try to crucify the messenger and ignore the message.[/quote]It could easily have been written as this such that the main message (i.e. potential attack on embassy) remains the same, while removing the unneccessary propaganda at the end.

Hence the following modification would still have conveyed the same main message of a warning about a "terrorist attack" on the US Diplomatic Mission in Nigeria.


LAGOS, Nigeria – The U.S. diplomatic mission in Nigeria said Sunday it had received reports of plans for a possible attack against its consulate in the southern city of Lagos.

Officials said in a circular sent to U.S. citizens that Nigerian police had increased their vigilance around the consulate and were closely monitoring traffic nearby. The mission called on U.S. citizens to report any suspicious activity there.

The circular from the Abuja-based embassy and the Lagos consulate gave no further information. A U.S. Embassy spokesman was not immediately available for comment.

In September 2007, the U.S. Embassy said it had received information that Western and U.S. interests were at threat from a terrorist attack in Nigeria. The U.S. State Department said it was not responding to any specific threat.

Nigeria, which is a major supplier of crude oil to the United States, has never suffered a terrorist attack. The population of 140 million people is evenly split between Christians and Muslims.

The U.S. maintains a large consular services office in Lagos, a city of 14 million people on Nigeria's southern coast.





Hence would obviously notice the difference between the propaganda free version given as


The U.S. maintains a large consular services office in Lagos, a city of 14 million people on Nigeria's southern coast.



and the propaganda full version given as



The U.S. maintains a large consular services office in Lagos, a chaotic, crime-ridden city of 14 million people on Nigeria's southern coast.

[quote author=B.O.S.S. link=topic=258234.msg3694239#msg3694239 date=1239009391]@ No2Atheism : Don't you think with that analogy of California, the city is though known for those you mentioned but it's more known as the city of palm trees and celebrities' haven etc. I think the writer could be biased however since Lagos is not known as the city of angels, how else could he have ended the article? What's your recommendation?

By the way, I'm not saying I'm on the writer's side.[/quote]1. That is why the media is good at brainwashing people ,  with the kind of images they want people to remember.

2. Dooh, exactly,  california is known as a city of hollywood and palm trees and celebrities, because that is that side of California that the media constantly wants people to see,

IF THE MEDIA WAS CONSTANTLY BOMBARDING US WITH IMAGES OF EARTHQUAKES, DRUG ADDICTION, CRIME, CORRUPTION, HOMOSEXUALITY, SODOMY AND FOREST FIRES INSTEAD OF PALM TREES AND CELEBRITIES, OFF COURSE MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE AND BAD IMAGE OF CALIFORNIA.

Apart from Nigeria, another example of this brainwashing and media manipulation of public perception is the case of the drug war going on in Mexico.

For example, the only side of Mexico being reported in the news today is the "Drug Wars",  the American media makes it look like the "Drug War" in Mexico is so bad that the real Mexican Natives are now running away from Mexico, yet that is not exactly "the whole truth". Instead what the american media is doing is what is called "molding of public perception".

Hence you see, THE POINT I AM MAKING IS THAT THERE IS ALWAYS A BIG PICTURE to a particular issue or media report, hence Africans and Nigerians should never be naive enough to not see beyond the surface of particular media report and motive of why a particular news report was allowed on the air or news print in the western media.

Kobojunkie:
Roflmao!!! The mediocity dance continues!!!  No need to pay attention to the main message at all. The problem here is some american writer somewhere has mentioned something unfavourable, even though true, about Nigeria, so we need to get in attack mode. The potential attack is no big deal!! lol

nuzo:
Propaganda ke!!. . . . . lol.
Everything seems to be propaganda to nigerians even when the issue at stake is pure truth.

nuzo:
Propaganda ke!!. . . . . lol.
Everything seems to be propaganda to nigerians even when the issue at stake is pure truth.

1. Inferiority complex is a serious Black man problem ,  and am seeing it a little bit in your statements,your statements sound something u think: if the white man says it, then it must be true and appropriate.
wat a load of rubbish , Abeg wake up ,

2. Western would never solve Nigeria's problem, Nigerians are the ones to solve their problems, hence don't deceive yourself thinking that because the western media mentions nigerian problems (in a particular way) then it means they did it truthful and are interested in solving it ,  "such naivety" , that is so far away from the truth.

3. You don't need the western media to detail the problems in Nigeria, before you know there is a problem in  Nigeria. Nigerians already know about the problems in Nigeria.
Western Media purses western interest, so don't be deceived. Western media does not mention nigerian problems because they love nigerians or want to help out, rather the western media is doing so because it is in their own interest to do so.

4. If you get off your high horse and take the time to read my previous posts, stop drinking the Koolaid, you would realise that the point i am trying to make.

5. I never said Nigeria did not have problems, yes Nigeria has serious problems, however they are not as serious as the Western Media is portraying them to be.

6. I never said Nigerian problems should never be reported. However there is always a sincere motive or ulterior motive to every action.

7. All I am saying is that the way it was reported "smells" of ulterior motives and propaganda.

8. Nigerian problem is not as worse as it is being reported, yet worse cases in the Western world are not being given the same negative coverage like they have given Nigeria.

9. The point I am making with seems too simple for you geniuses can be easily explained with this example

- California has a crime, drug, corruption problem, terrorist attack problem, homosexuality problem, forest fire susceptibility and earthquake prone problem however you would never see another western/nigerian journalist include the following kind of hypothetical statement at the end of a report about california

Nigeria maintains a large consular services office in California, a sodomic, homosexual infested, drug addicted, forest fire problem, corruption riddled state of millions people susceptible to earthquakes and terrorist attacks on the West Coast of the United States

This is because "common sense",tells the person that although the statement is true, nevertheless the time, place and method of usage of such a statement is inappropriate so much so that it "smells" like pure propaganda against the state of california.

The U.S. maintains a large consular services office in Lagos, a chaotic, crime-ridden city of 14 million people on Nigeria's southern coast.

This statement above is just pure propaganda,


Question: Is there crime and corruption in Nigeria.
Answer: Yes

Question: Is there crime and corruption in Europe
Answer: Yes

Question: Is there crime and corruption in South Africa
Answer: Yes

Question: Is there crime and corruption in USA
Answer: Yes

Question: Should they have used the statement "The U.S. maintains a large consular services office in Lagos, a chaotic, crime-ridden city of 14 million people on Nigeria's southern coast" at the end of the original post
Answer: NO

Question: WHY
Answer: Because that statement had no connection to the original message and reasonable reason for it to have been used

Question: Why do you think it was used.
Answer: For propaganda purposes

nuzo:
Who send you message
Abeg, we talking about the writer's last statement in the article which some nigerians like tpia disputed. These mad nigerians couldnt counter it or even find a suitable ending to it due to the stark reality in it.

Maybe, you should start another thread and educate us on how USA have refused the nigerian government to function.

1. Those who have ears would hear,

2. Nothing happens in isolation in politics and global policies,

3. My post only tries to show the understanding readers the connection and reason for such a propaganda statement against Nigeria.

4. Hence it is left to those with understanding to connect the dots themselves,

The U.S. maintains a large consular services office in Lagos, a chaotic, crime-ridden city of 14 million people on Nigeria's southern coast.

This statement above is just pure propaganda,


Question: Is there crime and corruption in Nigeria.
Answer: Yes

Question: Is there crime and corruption in Europe
Answer: Yes

Question: Is there crime and corruption in South Africa
Answer: Yes

Question: Is there crime and corruption in USA
Answer: Yes

Question: Should they have used the statement "The U.S. maintains a large consular services office in Lagos, a chaotic, crime-ridden city of 14 million people on Nigeria's southern coast" at the end of the original post
Answer: NO

Question: WHY
Answer: Because that statement had no connection to the original message and reasonable reason for it to have been used

Question: Why do you think it was used.
Answer: For propaganda purposes


1. Crime, Gun problem, HIV, Corruption in Nigeria is nothing compared to what is happening in the US, however the US/Western owned media would never mention that because :
    - They are trying to protect American/European Image and tarnish Nigerian image so that US/Western image would relatively better
    - Wall Street, US Senate Corruption, US Congress Corruption is more serious than that of Nigeria its only that you would hardly find it reported in the news, e.g. the TARP fund was a corrupt arngement between US politicians and Global Elite Banks.
    - US criminals affect both the US and the World, while Nigerian criminals only affect Nigeria in most cases, e.g. Bernie Maddoff involved in $50billion fraud
    - America is a country dominated by White people (European Americans and all) and those White people have always been trying to make every other race look inferior by their propaganda and discrimination, (hence the statement against Nigeria should not be a suprise)
    - America looks good if they keep implying that Nigeria looks bad.
    - It is a silent form of racism (i.e. silently denegrading the other race to ensure that they always feel physically and pshychologically inferior)
    - They would never do that to south africa because although blacks are ruling south africa, yet it is still a "white upper class" dominated economy, hence it would go against the interest of white south africans to point out the obvious (there is far more crime in South Africa than Nigeria, there is far more crime in the US than Nigeria).
     - The negative press that they are giving Nigerians is the same negative press and discrimination that they have been using against the African Americans in US for a long time now,

THE WORLD IS DOMINATED MILITARILY AND FINANCIALY BY WHITE PEOPLE, HENCE THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT DOMINATION BY LYING AND TRYING TO DESTROY THE GLOBAL IMAGE OF BLACK DOMINATED COUNTRIES LIKE NIGERIA OR ARAB DOMINATED COUNTRIES OR ASIAN DOMINATED COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA. SOUTH AFRICA IS AN EXCEPTION BECAUSE SOUTH AFRICAN ECONOMY AND MILITARY IS OBVIOUSLY STILL DOMINATED BY WHITES HENCE THE REASON WHY SOUTH AFRICA DOES NOT HAVE SO MUCH NEGATIVE PUBLICITY.


2. Let us remember that the NeoCons (Neo Conservatives i.e a war mongering group of predomonantly white people intent on continuing the world domination by USA). One way that the NeoCons achieves this is by constantly creating a war in a country that they want to control its resources so that such a country would be destroyed developmentally and so that those NeoCons would then be able to controll that country's resources during the time of war and after the war and unrest .e.g. Iraq, Kuwait.
Hence that is mainly the reason why they were trying to setup up the military unit known as Africom. Fortunately Nigeria is one of the countries that opposed AfriCom hence the NeoCons via the US Government is doing everything possible to undermine Nigeria so that they can then use that to bring about AfriCom and thus use AfriCom to control African Resources (e.g. Oil and other Raw Materials). However most African countries have rejected Africom being stationed in Africa because most Africans have common sense and thus they know that AfriCom would just be another form of slavery under an occupying force of US origin. That is why the US is using every possible means to instigate violence in Africa, make the image of Africng and Nigeria look bad by lying about the extent and gravity of crime and corruption, pretend as if Africa and Nigeria is under a terrorist threat. This is all because it would then give US an excuse to invade Nigerian soil under the excuse of protecting Africans and US embassies in countries like Nigeria.

3. Remember the British intentionally handed over power to the Hausas in nigeria because they know that it would always create instability and hence it would always hamper the growth of Nigeria and hence it would always allow the Western World to control Nigerian resources via proxy.

4. US is completely bancrupt financially (i.e. they owe about 14Trillion dollars debt overall when one includes all levels of government) hence they are always looking forward to steal (through wars) the resources of any country (e.g. Nigeria, Iraq etc) they can get so as to remain afloat ,  (hence the Iraq War, to control the Oil and create more money via military spending, hence the Iran bickering in other to instigate war and control their oil and also please the Arabs us of their money, iranians are not arabs by the way). Even China is fed up with the US debt, hence they want to stop lending them money.

5. Robert Mugabe (who is himself a very corrupt individual) understands that White people have been stealing resources and land, decided to use the stolen land issue against the West, hence why the West is against him, because the West knows that if Mugabe succeeds, other people would start using the same tactics against them.
Even the Brazilian native indians have started reclaiming their lands stolen by the proxies or descendants of white people. South Africa already has the problem of land ownership in that descendants of white settlers own some of the land while South African Natives are still landless.
Aboriginal aborigines had their land stolen from them since 1700s,

HENCE WE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT THE WHITE CONTROLLED MEDIA WOULD ALWAYS USE PROPAGANDA TO ENHANCE THE POLICIES AND INTEREST OF THE WHITE RACE WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT , 

toneyb:
Ok sorry for implying that you said what you did not, is that all? Do you still believe that Paul was a black person? Were the ancient Jews black people?

1. Thank you for the apology and correction, I also apologise for any direct or indirect insult towards you.


2. Yes I believe Paul was a black person, because the bible says so (and i have given you verses to show that).


3. Yes i know pictures of paul and other apostles tries to say that they are white, unfortunately those pictures do not have biblical and historical basis.


4. Yes I believe Ancient Jews were a black race, because the bible says so (and i have given bible verses to show that).


5. Ethiopia has been existing even since the time of Moses (even Moses married an Ethiopian at one point in time), showing how old Ethiopia is as an ancient race of people.


6. Ethiopia are a race of black people. Just like Egypt is a race of Black people, Just as Nubia is a race of black people.


7. Even the Creator Himself gave us information that the Ancient Isrealites were like the Ethiopians, 


Amos 9:7
[KJV] Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir?

[RNKJV] Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith יהוה. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir?



8. Yes I know this my view is not a popular view, however knowing and standing for the truth is not always the popular option. Also the truth is that a lot of people who share the same truth are also starting to declare the same in public.


9. I would rather believe the Creator Himself, above all things, rather than believe what Hollywood and popular pictures are trying to claim.


10. I would rather believe the Bible records, rather than believe what Hollywood and popular pictures are trying to claim.


11. Even some truthful Caucasians, Europeans and some other people are gradually openly revealing, openly exposing and openly accepting that the Ancient Isrealites were actually a black race.

12. The fact that Ancient Isrealites were a black race does not mean that they were not semites,  Ancient Isrealites are still descendants of Shem (hence why they are called Semites). It is an erroneous assumption to assume that Shem himself could not have been black. This is because despite that we know that Ham was obviously black, nevertheless, science tells us that Noah himself had to have a black skin or at least black blood for him to have given birth to a black man known as Ham.

Even in the worst case scenario of ignoring the bible and only basing the case on just science, science tells us that:

- Black Men mostly have the dominant genes compared to those of the white man.
- White men mostly have the recessive genes compared to those of the black man.

Hence its logically possible for both white men and black men to descend from a single black man (Noah) as logic makes it obvious that its easy for such a black man to have both the dominant genes and recessive genes at the same time that he still looks black. Also logic tells us, it is basically impossible for  white men and black men to descend from a single white man due tot he dominant gene and recessive gene hurdle.

i.e. its easy to go from Black to White, but difficult (if not impossible) to go from White to Black, due to the issues of genes.

Hence Noah must be black for Ham to have been black, which likewise means that Shem would have "black blood in Him".

14. Also remember that Ancient Isrealites were commanded not to marry outside of their people, hence at least some of them would have been able to maintain their skin colour over the years (right from the time of Moses up to the time of Paul) because they were not marrying outside their people (gene pool).

15. Even some top leaders of the Apostate Church known as the Catholic Church sometimes secretly bow down to the statues/idols "known as the Black Madonna/Black Baby Jesus

16. Yes i know some "White" people are called Jews today and I also know that those white people call themselves Jews and I also know that some of those white people killed during the Nazi "Jewish Holocaust".

17. The truth is still that majority of those "White people" who call themselves jews are not the real ancient isrealites.

18. Infact, one of those present day "White People" (i.e jewish people) named "Arthur Koestler" (who was Jewish) revealed in the book "The Thirteenth Tribe" that the present day white jewish people are not related to The Khazar Empire.

19. Finally, most jewish people today are called "jews" because of their involvement in the religion of judaism and not because they are actually descendants of biblical isrealites.

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I rest my case,

toneyb:
It is very clear that you are a very dishonest person.

wow    , @toneyb, hmm, hmmm, before trying to remove the log in someone else eyes, please note that u also claimed that i said something which i did not. (yes u guessed right it means not telling the truth).

You can check this link for the confirmation of what i am talking about ,  (https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=257235.msg3687619#msg3687619)

Thank you.

Quote from @hubreality

You'll never find me debating and arguing the integrity of God's Word and the Power therein. It's evil to accomodate/accept they lies of the devil geared toward men of God; so many beautiful lies against men of God and fellow churches on the Internet, including the false write up and saying about Pastor Adeboye/Redeemed church on Private Jet, Pastor Chris/Christ Embassy Church and many others.  It's a pity. Anyway, it doesn't count to the move of the Spirit. Beware! Whatsoever a man soweth that will he also reap. It's wiser to sow the good seeds of Love and Faith.

@hubreality, it seems a lot of people on this thread are picking on you (I am sorry about that and apologise to you on their behalf) ,  at the same time it also seems that you yourself are giving them the chance and reason to pick on you (you would understand why, once you read through my post).

My observation is that instead of defending the Word of the Creator, rather I have noticed that you are defending Pastor Chris and Christ Embassy as an organisation.


Yes I know the bible says touch not my annointed.
Yes I know the bible says thou shall not judge.
Yes still, i also know the bible says that we must test all spirit to check whether they are of the Creator of Heaven and Earth or not.


THIS MEANS THAT BEFORE WE SUPPORT OR OPPOSE ANY PASTOR (Pastor Chris, Pastor Adeboye, Kenneth Copeland, Paula White, Bishop Oyedepo included) WE MUST TEST THAT PARTICULAR PASTOR ACCORDING TO WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS AND ALSO CHECK THE FRUITS OF THAT PASTOR TO SEE IF IT TALLIES WITH THE FRUITS OF A TRUE PASTOR ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE.

Hence in order to truly obey the Word of the Creator (THE BIBLE), we need to do the following:

- Check whether the particular Pastor is truly annointed according to the Bible, (because not every success story, riches, wealth, beauty, miracle or signs and wonders is Biblical, even Lucifer himself can be an angel of light).

- Test the Spirit of such a Pastor by vetting and crosschecking everything about the Pastor to the expected standard as giving by the bible.

- Check the foundation and affiliation of such a Pastor (those people (other Pastors) that the Pastor is also copying in words and deeds), [i]for example, a Pastor becomes questionable when it is found out that such a Pastor continues to respect, believe, follow, copy and imitate another Pastor/Bishop who is laster found to be a false teacher or false prophet,  E.g. A Pastor becomes questionable if he continues to believe and follow another Pastor that does not believe there is only one way to heaven [/i].

Please note that:

1. No single human being is perfect (nature of sin and thus the need for salvation by grace through faith), hence Pastor Chris has faults just like anybody else.

2. Pastors are human beings that occupy the office of a Pastor, Pastors are not mediators before the Creator, that is the job of the Messiah.

3. No single Pastor is a faultless, otherwise such a Pastor would not need the Grace of Salvation through faith.

4.What Pastor Chris says or preaches is going to affect the lives of those who believe in what he says, hence it is important to make sure that what he says or do is Biblically True, otherwise a lot of souls would be lost if it is not.

5. Unfortunately there are some people who copy Pastor Chris's behaviour, lifestyle and look and thus completely try to do exactly the same things that he does, says or tells them to do.

6. Those that mimick Pastor Chris (and any Pastor for that matter) instead of mimicking what the Bible says are in danger of basing their hope of Salvation on Pastor Chris or any other man for that matter. This is wrong because the Bible says all believers should look only unto the Messiah, because only He is the hope of our salvation. Only the Messiah is worthy of copying,  (Hence the phrase: what would the Saviour do).

7. A True Bible believer is not supposed to do what the Pastor is doing, rather a true bible believer is supposed to do what the Bible says.

8. If Pastor Chris is wrong, then those who follow, copy and inherently defend him are wrong (thus they need to repent).

9. If Pastor Chris is right, then those who do not follow him, those who do not copy him and those who inherently oppose him are likewise wrong ( thus they need to also repent).


HENCE AT THE END OF THE DAY, ONCE THE BIBLICAL TESTING OF THE SPIRIT, FRUIT AND SO CALLED ANNOINTING OF THE PASTOR (Pastor Chris in this case) HAS BEEN DONE, THEN IT IMPLIES THAT THAT RESULT OF THE TEST WOULD BE THAT:

- IF YOU (@hubreality) ARE FOUND TO BE RIGHT AND CORRECT AND PASTOR CHRIS IS NOT A FALSE PROPHET, then it becomes an opportunity for you to evangelise and preach the true gospel to those who were opposing you before.

OR

- IF YOU (@hubreality) ARE FOUND TO BE WRONG AND INCORRECT AND PASTOR CHRIS IS A FALSE PROPHET,  then it becomes an opportunity for those people opposing you to evangelise and preach the true gospel to you.


This is because after all is said and done, the most important thing is the Salvation of the Soul, (as this was the reason and need for a Messiah in the first place, every other thing is just a bonus)


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Quote from @hubreality

You'll never find me debating and arguing the integrity of God's Word and the Power therein

LET   יהוה   BE TRUE AND ALL MEN LIARS,


Romans 3:4

[KJV] God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

[RNKJV] By no means: yea, let  יהוה  be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.




1. Only a mad man would argue about the truthfulness, integrity and power inherent in the Word of the Creator

2. Discussions should always be centered on whether or not Pastors are walking and making statements and proclamations in accordance with the Bible, the Word of the Creator.

3. Words of the Creator is always true irrespective of the kind of people reading it or interpreting it ,  All things would always work out according to what the Creator says and not what the preachers/pastors claim it to say.

4. I have observed that majority of the people who are discussing or arguing on this thread are discussing or arguing about whether or not Pastor Chris is a false prophet or not ,  an easy way to get this done is by checking if Pastor Chris words, utterances and deeds are in accordance with the Bible.



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Quote from @hubreality

It's evil to accomodate/accept they lies of the devil geared toward men of God

1. First and foremost, it must be determined, using the bible, whether or not the men in question are False Preachers or not.

2. After then, one can make a statement about whether or not the statements against those so called men, are lies of the devil or not.

3. Even Lucifer can pretend to be an Angel of Light, meaning even Lucifer can pretend to be a "True Pastor", it is the responsibility of every believer to test all spirits, irrespective of the status of the people in question.

4. Our Allegiance as believers is not to a Pastor, rather our allegiance is to our Creator.

5. Whenever there is a conflict of interest between our Pastor and our Creator, common sense tells us that our Creator must take precedence.



I hope this my submission is useful in this case, thank you.

biina:
While I am not saying that the article is true, could you please state which parts of the article are false, as they provided a document to backup their claims (see link)
http://www.huhuonline.com/news342a.html
There is no point in declaring falsehood without making a credible case for your position.

1. I am not supporting Pastor Chris, far from it, I am a strict bible person, hence i really don't give a damn about the reputation of the pastor or person. All i am concerned about is whether the person's doctrine and lifestyle is according to the Scriptures or not.

2. I personally am suspicious of any Prosperity Pastor and so called Tithing and Word of Faith Pastors, of which i consider Pastor Chris to be one

3. However in the effort to expose false prophets and false pastors, i do not support the use of false information or incorrect information, hence my reason to investigate whether or not the document supplied by the huluwebsite (http://www.huhuonline.com/news342a.html) was true or not.

4. However i noticed something unsuall about the document referenced on huhuonline.com ((http://www.huhuonline.com/news342a.html)), What i notice was that the document was signed by a Pastor Javed Masih. At the same time i also noticed that a Christian also known by the name "Javed Masih" was killed in Okara (somewhere which i am assuming to be in Pakistan), check the following website (http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/topic,464db4f52,464db52c2,48d5cbf84d,0.html) for reference and notice the quoted information below.

On April 10, 2008, unidentified assailants killed a Christian, Javed Masih, in Okara. By the end of the reporting period, no one had been arrested. Masih was among one of the activists of the Landless Farmers movement on Military Farms, Okara. He was reportedly shot dead on his way back home.

5. This brings to the mind, the question whether or not the Pastor Javed Masih on the huhuonline website (http://www.huhuonline.com/news342a.html)  is the same person as the Javed Masih reported to have been killed in April 2008, from the on the unhcr website (http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/topic,464db4f52,464db52c2,48d5cbf84d,0.html).

6. What date was the huhuonline website (http://www.huhuonline.com/news342a.html) document published.

7. Is there any other reference to corroborate the information provided by huhuonline website (http://www.huhuonline.com/news342a.html).

8. Its is written that we should speak the truth in all things, hence its important to ascertain the authenticity and truthfullness of this particular accusation against Pastor Chris.

9. Above all things, there would always be false prophets, hence why true bible believers should only look unto the Messiah Himself for example, focus only on the bible for study, and please stop buying each and every rubbish christian books that are marketted to them otherwise they would have themselves to blame for being decieved.

@toneyb , i am still waiting for your public retraction of a false statement which you made about me.

You claimed I made a statement which I clearly did not, (check the previous posts on this thread to see the false statement that you made about me - https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-257235.32.html#msg3685799)


Should i wait for a public retraction or should i assume that it would never come,

KAG (how u dey, , did u miss me, yes i missed you too) and Chrisbenogor are just having a play on words ,

I give up , I can't make my explanations any simpler ,

So let's just call it a day while u continue to believe that you do not beleive in in the "flying sphagetti monster",

Adios for now, i have to get some high level mathemetics study done,

flying spaghetti monster,  , l like that one, muhaaahhhaaaahaaaa,  .

more like spongebob square pants ,

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Back to the explanation at hand, I really hate repeating myself when something is so fucking obvious.

All the same let me repeat myself since it seems the simple scientific and mental logic being explained by me seems to be too simple for your genius IQs to understand.


1. Science can be used to prove the existence or lack of existence of something ,  provided there is a valid scientific proof.


2. Something cannot exist and not exist at the same time, only one option can be true.


3. Hence assuming we have options A and B ,


4. Let's assume there is a scientific proof called "TEST" that can be used to test for the existence of the items A or B.


5. Assume there is a group of people who accept existence of A as true, i.e. they believe existence of A is true, even before it is scientifically proved to exist.


6. Also Assume there is another group of people who accept existence of B as true, i.e. they believe existence of B is true, even before it is scientifically proved to exist.


7. Now assume an unbiased person applies the scientific proof called TEST to both A and B, and also assume that the TEST proves that only B exists, then it means.


8. Assume that despite the result of the TEST, there are still small groups of people who still believe in the existence of A, then it means that:

-  Existence of B is always going to be both fact based and proof based.

-  It is scientifically proofed that A does not exist.

-  Existence of A is not fact based, is not proof based but it is faith based


9. Now assume there another scenario in which there is no scientific proof at all that can be used to proof existence of either A or B, then it means that:

-  It can never be scientifically proofed that A exists or not.

-  Existence of A is not fact based, is not proof based but it is faith based

-  It can never be scientifically proofed that B exists or not.

-  Existence of B is not fact based, is not proof based but it is faith based



10. Finally assume that:

      -        A ==  Non-existence of a Creator  == Atheism

      -        B ==  Existence of a Creator == Creationism

      -        There is no scientific method to proof whether or not A is true or not or whether B is true or not.


Therefore in this last scenario, it becomes easy to see that:


- Existence of Creator is faith based.
- Non-Existence of Creator is also faith based.

such that since there is no scientific proof that can be used in this case, then

Lack of faith in Existence of Creator = Presence of faith in the Non-existence of a Creator

and

Lack of faith in Non-Existence of a Creator = Presence of faith in the Existence of a Creator


Thus that is why I said that:


Belief in a Creator == Unbelief in Atheism == Faith based system.

Unbelief in a Creator == Belief in Atheism == Faith based system.


I HOPE THIS FINALY SIMPLE EXPLANATION OF THE LOGIC HAS BEEN ENOUGH FOR THE GENIUSES OF BAWOMOLO, MANTRAA AND CHRISBENOGOR.

toneyb:
did you read no2atheisms claims? He believes that the ancient Jews(the chosen people of Yahweh) were blacks do you believe that too? no2atheism believes that Paul was a black man do you agree with that assertion?  . no2atheism also believes that the real Jews were never in bondage in Egypt. do you also share that belief? 

What detailed rebuttal? is that what you call a detailed rebuttal? Mazaje has answered your "rebuttal" on my behalf.(Thanks Mazaje)

1. Don't try to divert attention to me. Please focus on your discussion with davidylan, try and answer davidylan's questions.

2. For Biblical proof as to who the real isrealites are and why please chk my profile and go through my posts cus i don't really have the time to start repeating myself.

3. Assume you choose to ignore simple  bible verses giving the reason why the "Real Isrealites" simply cannot be members of the white skinned races such as (idumeans, caucasians, khazars, turks, arabs, persians, europeans, germans etc) please consider the following common sense considerations that can be gleened from events in the bible.

- There is an account that when famine occurred to the ancient real isrealites, it made them look "black" like an oven (i.e. it made them blacker),  yet examples of famine by amongst the present day jewish holocaust victims during world war 2 showed that there has not been an evidence showing where there skin turned black due to famine. This means that they don't have similar skin characteristics like the original real isrealites.

Lamentations 5:10

[KJV] Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.
[RNKJV] Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.
[WEB] Our skin is black like an oven,   Because of the burning heat of famine. 


 
- Moses's hand turn white as snow with leprousy as a sign from the Creator, only a black skin turning completely white as snow and then turning back to its original colour ([i]meaning that white like skin was not its original colour) would have been a valid and reasonable miracle that is easily seen based on skin colour.


Exodus 4:6

[KJV] And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow.
[RNKJV] And יהוה said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow.
[WEB] Yahweh said furthermore to him, “Now put your hand inside your cloak.”   He put his hand inside his cloak, and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous, as white as snow. 



- Miriam (Sister of Moses) turned white as a result of leprousy i.e. she had an original skin colour which obviously was not white otherwise she would not have been said to turn white.

Numbers 12:10

[KJV] And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.
[RNKJV] And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.
[WEB] The cloud removed from over the Tent; and, behold, Miriam was leprous, as white as snow: and Aaron looked at Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.




- Ancient Egyptians (not the present day Arabs masquerading as Egyptians) are known to be people with black skin (sometimes of different shades of black), yet Moses an Hebrew was able to live and grow up in the House of Pharaoh during a time when the Real Isrealites who were in bondage in Egyptian while being persecuted by the Egyptians. Moses was fearful of Pharaoh only after he had killed an Egyptian fighting an Hebrew, meaning that logic tells us that Moses had been able to blend in. Logic thus tells us that Moses could not have been white-skinned as that would have made him easily noticeable as not being an Egyptian.



- Even the man called "Aurthor Kestler" who himself was a present day Jew, admitted and wrote a book called "The Thirteenth Tribe" detailing that the majority of people who call themselves Jews have no blood connection to the Ancient Isrealites i.e. the Jews of today are not the Ancient Isrealites of the Bible.
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- Finally on a funnier note,  the land of israel (middle east area) and areas through which isrealites frequented are areas considered quite "sunny" so much so that a race of people without   enough melanin in their skin (something which all shades of black men have in abundance) would have surely suffered enough sun burn ,  abi do u think it makes sense for Messiah to come suffer "sun burn"


Look Mister toneyb, once you know the truth, it would surely set you free, from all forms of mental and physical slavery either from Caucasians or Edomites or Arabs or the Devil himself.

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no2atheism also believes that the real Jews were never in bondage in Egypt.

1.   , 

2. Please go through my post to correct your above quoted statement. Because your quoted statement is completely false.

3. I NEVER said the real isrealites were never in bondage in Egypt, how come u are claiming that i said so.

4. Instead I said the real isrealites were once in bondage in Egypt , while the fake jews were the ones who were never in bondage in Egypt.

5. I also explicitly point out to you that the fake jews were never descendants of Jacob, hence could never have been Jews by blood. Instead I explained to you 
that those fake jews were only called Jews because they converted to Judaism.

6. The only Jews there were in bondage in egypt were the real isrealites who are the descendants of Jacob.

I don't support any form of European or American military presence in Africa under any guise or form, because history shows that military assistance is always a prelude to a sinister financial, economic or political exploitation further down in the future.

Give your opinion about the so called AFRICOM force being established by the US in Africa.

manmustwac:
How can Atheism be a religion? Religions worship imaginary Gods. Atheists don't believe in any God.

1. Please pay attention to the following application of simple logic.

2. Unbelief is itself still a form of Belief once that Unbelief or Belief is based solely on an unprovable assumption.

3. For example, If there are only two possible options (e.g. A and B),  then an unprovable Unbelieve in option [b]A automatically implies a believe in option B and vice versa.  Hence either way, Atheism inherently implies a believe in the non-existence of a Creator, since the existence or non existence of a Creator cannot be scientifically proven.

4. Bible believers cannot scientifically prove the existence of a creator, likewise Atheists cannot scientifically prove the non-existence of a Creator. That is why evolutionist/atheist try to avoid the issue about the origin of life, time,matter,reality and existence (how everything all began) ,  as trying to answer such a question implies an atheist "must" make an initial assumption of either the existence or non-existence of a Creator.  Unfortunately for the Atheist, making such an assumption automatically creates a burden of scientific proof for existence or non-existence of a Creator being to true or false accordingly.

5. Therefore my Atheist friends, that is the reason why Atheism itself is inherently a "faith based" secular religion.

@davidyland, well done great work,

@everybody, please note that following, cus i just want to make a quick point that is connected to the issue of Bible, Tanack, Torah and Talmud

1. The full name of the Talmud is Babylonian Talmud.

2. The Talmud is basically an occultic book that has absolutely nothing to do with Salvation and more to do with so called "rituals", (which i consider to be satanic in intent and nature).

To understand existence of Talmud, its good to understand about the Edomites. Certain Edomites were accepted into Judaism of the then Jews (i.e. there were non-isrealite people who became jews by acceptance into judaism and ancient isreal and also their were other jews who were actually jews by blood as descendant of Judah).

Remember in the old testament that something happened when Jacob and Esau were born:

- The Bible did not describe the colour of the skin of Isaac
- The Bible did not describe the colour of the skin of Jacob
- The Bible did not describe the colour of the skin of Rebecca
- Yet the Bible described the colour of the skin of Esau,
-  The description of colour of the skin of Esau, implies that Esau looked visibly different in skin colour from his mother (Rebecca), father (Isaac) and brother (Jacob/Isreal).
- Esau was described as being "red and hairy" during birth,


Genesis 25:25

[KJV] And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

[RNKJV] And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

[WEB] The first came out red all over, like a hairy garment. They named him Esau.


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The only race of people that i know of, that might fit the red and hairy skin description of Esau as Esau's descendant  are groups of people that can be classified as either white skinned( hence blood red nature of skin in some cases) Asian, Caucasian, Middle Eastern Arabs, Persians, hence Esau is most probably not a black skin person, as black skinned men are not reddish

This means that Jacob was not red and hairy,
This means that Jacob looked normal, when compared to Isaac and Rebecca,
This means that Jacob looked like a person with a skin shade of a black man (light skin black man or very light skin black man or normal skin black man or very dark skin black man),

Hence it can be implied that some white skinned people (Edomites) and black skinned people were calling themselves "Jews" by religion during the time of the Messiah.

3. Certain Edomites (descendants of Esau) converted to Judaism and were living amongs the original "real isrealites" during the time of the Messiah, occupation.

4. Edomites were the ones controlling the political power (Herod and co were Edomites check your history books) during the time of the Messiah, (unfortunately there are probably still some Edomites today masquerading as the real jews, hence still denying the truth about the Messiah, ) while still promoting the a religion based on the Talmud.

5. Some of the Pharasees during the time of Messiah were Edomites and some were real isrealites (e.g. Paul was a real isrealite ( i.e. a real hebrew Jacob descendant) despite being connected to the Scribes and?or Pharasees. Also note that Paul as a real isrealite also looked like an Egyptian despite that Egyptians were not related to Jacob). This is only possible if Paul was a black skinned man , just as the Egyptians are a black skin race descendant of Ham.

Paul identifiying himself as a real isrealite and blood descendant of Jacob.



Philippians 3:5

[KJV] Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

[RNKJV] Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

[WEB] circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee;


Paul being mistaken for an Egyptian (obviously because of skin colour and physical similarity) because Egyptians were descendants of Ham (i.e a black race) , hence why Paul was mistaken for them since he looked like them.

Acts 21:38

[KJV] Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?

[RNKJV] Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?

[WEB] Aren’t you then the Egyptian, who before these days stirred up to sedition and led out into the wilderness the four thousand men of the Assassins?” 



Real Isrealites were once in bondage in Egypt, fake jews were never in bondage in Egypt hence the fake jews amongts the Pharasees indirectly revealed themselves when they countered the Messiah in the bible that thought they were the seed of Abraham, yet they were never in bondage.

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John 8:33

[KJV] They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

[RNKJV] They answered him, We be Abrahams seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

[WEB] They answered him, “We are Abraham’s seed, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How do you say, ‘You(P) will be made free?’”  



6. Tanack is not the same as the Talmud,


7. Tanack is just another name for the Old Testament books, while the Torah is just another name for the 5 books known as the books of Moses,


8. The Messiah himself used and quoted the Tanack books (Old Testament),


9. The Disciples used and quoted the Tanack (Old Testament),
 

10. The New Testament came via the Disciples and Early church whose bible study was based on the Tanack,


11. The Talmud however is something else entirely different, it has absolutely nothing to do with the Bible and the Salvation as spoken in the Bible. Even Judaism considers the Talmud to be superior to the Bible   (just as muslims consider the quran to be superior to the Bible  ,  hence true bible believers should not even make the mistake of confusing the two.


12. Run away from the Talmud as fast as u can and run towards the Bible, THE TALMUD IS SATANIC and OCCULTIC.


13. I believe the Babylonian Talmud essentially uses the same concept used by Quran, i.e. the Talmud simply contains a collection of books and written based on rituals and mere practices of men combined with contents of the Tanack.
That is the Talmud combines part of the original scriptures (Tanack) and then added some other satanic ideas to it to make up another so called holy book called the Talmud. The difference in this case is that the Quran was a poor job at plagiarism using the same methods like the Talmud.

Allah didnt promise terrorist 7 virgins and if you have it, kindly supply me or you remain a liar.

1. Yes you correct allah did not promise 7 virgins ,

2. Yes Allah/Mohammed (na the same thing cus mohammed adopted allah as his god) i think through the hadith, actually promised 72 virgins,  (i mean 72 virgins per person, 72 virgins, the kind of which would continually be re-virginated by allah, everytime after all you those 72 virgins have been u know dis-virgined by the Hot mallams in al-janaat)

3. Should we assume the Hadith/Allah/Mohammed is not to be obeyed in the hope of getting 72 virgins.

@davidylan,

1. Well done for keeping up the good works , against the self-deceiving muslims, naive christians, politically correct christians, dillusioned catholics, ignorant atheists and others.

2. I am also not a politically correct individual hence i am very happy when i see a bible believer who is not politically correct like you, (The Messiah from the Bible was not politically correct, Paul was not politically correct, hence a true bible believer ought not to be politically correct)

3. I am happy to see that you are making concerted efforts to continue to respond to the islamic lies and deceit line by line (i have become too pissed off with their ignorance that i am tempted to say i could not be bothered about them, however their blatant lies sometimes force me out of blogging semi-retirement once in a while).

4. By the way, Yes, I am gradually getting over Toyosi20 ,    ,  its sad that i came too late for her  . hehehe

5. I am really impressed by your perseverance and concentration on trying to respond to the muslim/islamic lies ,  despite that they keep recycling and repeating the same lies and questions over and over again like illogical drones.

6. I have come to the stage at which i realise that dead brain neurons, spiritual madness, mental insanity, naiveness, bold face disregard of truth or blatant indoctrination are the only reason that can be used to explain why:

  - muslims say the bible is corrupt, yet they quote from it,

  - muslims say they have an injil  containing "uncorrupted words", yet it is now somehow lost (and hence can't be proven true or false)

  - muslims keep trying to validate themselves via the same "corrupt bible".

  - muslims don't understand that it is wrong and devilish for allah to mandate muslims to kill "apostates" (i.e. those who converted away from islam) for the simpe reason that "simple logic" dictates that the "Truth" is always the truth and that "everyone" (Atheists, Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddists etc) would end up knowing whether or not they are right or wrong, once they are dead. Hence its not necessary to kill on the basis of which faith is true, cus we would all find out once we are dead.

  - muslims don't realise that the worst case of madness is when someone who is mad, does not show physical signs of madness. Hence no one would even detect the madness talkless of treating it.

7. @A-town is simply either naive/ignorant/inherently confused (conditions that are inherently treatable and correctable) for him/her to have considered that:

  - muslims, christians, buddist, hindus, babalawo, egyptians cults or any good person for that matter, are all going to the same place called "Heaven"

  - simple laws of logic, observation and understanding dictates that the word "Heaven" is inherently or bound to be inherently different when one considers its usage in the"Bible","Quran" etc. As far as bible believers are concerned, Heaven is not just an english word, rather Heaven is a Biblical location described as the dwelling place of the Biblical Creator of Everything.

  - simpel laws of logic, observation and understanding dictates that the word al-janat [/b]as described in the quran is [b]simply not the same as Heaven as describe in the bible.

8. Muslims are peaceful when they are in the minority ,  hence are unable to "truly" propagate and obey the quran and allah because being in the minority usually means they can't enforce the quran, they can't force people to convert to islam or they can't unilaterally claim the country to be an islamic nation against the wish of the majority. However propagation of islam by force, deceipt, lies and discrimination becomes easy once they are in the majority.

9. Muslims are permitted by Allah to tell lies for the sake of propagation of islam. Hence "all true and practicising" muslims irrespective of age and sex are inherently not to be trusted under any circumstance most especially when those muslims are in the minority of an area or nation.

10. Muslims have no problem kidnapping a girl (of any age), forcing her to save her own life by proclaiming to become a muslim (otherwise she is killed and discarded), having sex with her, lie and claim that she has become a muslim, lie and claim that her children conceived under duress and rape have also automatically become muslims, stop family members of the girl from rescuing her from her kidnappers, then repeating the same cycle on another girl.

11. Muslims become violent and discriminatory against other minorities of other faith, once they have started to increase in number or once they have become the majority (Zamfara, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Iran, Pakistan, Kosovo, Sudan, Eritrea, UAE etc, ). Arabs government leaders are openly gentle towards the Western Countries because they know the US, Britian, Europe is going to kick their ass so bad it would come out of their mouth. Yet the same Arabs leaders actively openly and secretly supporting discrimination against minorities ( or sometimes peaceful majorities) in Sudan, Pakistan, Somalia, et al.

13. Arabs are descendants of a "rejected but blessed child" known as Ishmael. This they know and thus are always jealous of, angry at and murderous to the "real isrealites" of the Bible (or anyone that has an association with them e.g. the Khazars calling themselves jews, jewish, ashkenazi,state of isreal or whatever).

14. Around 360 idols were worshipped in lands of the Arabs before mohammed unilaterarily declared himself a prophet of allah,

15. Allah was the name of one of those idols ,

16. Mohammed's fullname is "Mohammed bin Abdullah", meaning that Mohammed's fathers name is "Abdullah",

17. The name "Abdullah" means "Servant of Allah".

18. Allah was worshipped by the father of mohammed, who obviously was not a prophet of islam as its obvious islam started with mohammed and his so called visions and prophecies.

19. Hence merely from the analysis of mohammed's fullname and mohammed's father's name, logic implies that allah was simply an idol worshipped by mohammed's father (hence why mohammed's father was called "servant of allah".

White girls are high maintenance?  By that , I guess U mean that black girls are more cheaper to date. Ol, boy, U don miss road. I love my black sistas, but damn!!!!

1. That is a unsually wrong mis-quote,

2. I am not saying my beautiful black sistas are cheap, far far from it,

Let me give u an example, "a white woman that dwelves into plastic surgery, liposuction, botox usage et al" is going to be high maintenance compared to a "black sista" that already has all the features naturally inbuilt.

@robosky02

ibkaye you self you follow 4 black girl or white

ibkaye:

ibkaye, no wonder u are suprised by robosky02's comment, even me was suprised and confused by the comment, considering that ibakaye is a lady (i.e female) so how does robosky02's comment apply. unless off course robosky02 is trying to claim that u are a "lesbo" which i hope u are not.

dayokanu:
No2Atheism,

Why you wan embarras this Toyosi girl? You know she is a shy person U have now opened 2 threads about her within 48hours.

I doubt if she would like it

First and foremost,

@sistawoman, way to go girl.
@gabrywyl, yes o, once u go black you never want to go back,

Secondly,

1. I am not a politically correct individual, I am very blunt with the truth and with my opinion (those on the religion thread would be able to testify to this)

2. No am not trying to embarrass Toyosi20, far far from it[b]hope she veses not[/b], (@dayokanu take note).

3. It was after already falling for Toyosi20 that I now later realise that she is already in a relationship, meaning that i had to "back off away from" her because of that. Nevertheless I mentioned her on the original topic post, not because i wanted to snatch her or something (far far from it), instead i mentioned her because I was just being blunt (I think she fits my taste in women, as exemplified by topic of thread) nothing more nothing less.

4. yes confession: Toyosi was the reason i started focusing much more on the nairaland romance thread and i have become hooked on the romance thread since, my original my focus was the religions thread.

5. I am hopelessly blunt with my intentions and mind set, apologies to all the beautiful white ladies offended by (I am just voicing my taste and opinion about why i think black women are more beautiful, why i think so and what my taste is ).

6. Apologies to all those offended by my thread, it was not intended to be a racist comment, I was just being blunt with my preferences and taste in women.

7. I detest racism (@iice please note).

8. I did not say white women are not beautiful, some are beautiful some are not.

9. I am not saying all black women are beautiful, some are beautiful some are not.

10. Instead what i am saying is that I consider black sisters to be more beautiful than white sisters when one considers their general package, my own tastes and the points that i have listed against white women.


Thank you ,

Ujujoan:
So F**king what??

Why do you always have to start silly topics? There's no award for the highest thread creator on NL!!

Na fight , dooh , i guess Its silly enough for u to chk and comment i guess.

sara j:
A white girl obviously dumped you.

1. na not possible, how can i be dumped when i am when i was never in a relationship with one to begin with , ,

2. Nope I was not dumped,

3. My opinion about my real attraction to 'black sisters' and lack of real attraction to 'white sisters' , is based on my observation of fashion, real life, trends and personal preferences ,


As it is said , 'once u go black u never go back' , my 'black sisters' have the total package of beauty, common sense, love and family values what else could i be asking for,

Do u think i would have been attracted to 'Toyosi20' if she were 'white' , na i don't think so ,

I would take a Beyonce over a Angelina Jolie anytime any day whether or not they both use make up or not ,

[quote author=Ebony-Silk link=topic=254094.msg3648605#msg3648605 date=1238126685]From who's mouth?

Plz abeg o, I no like wahala[/quote]1. its actually true, your statement was a half joke, half truth kind of thing,

2. Okay i would edit the original post and remove your username,

3. Sorry about that , hope no offence is taking.

OgidiBoy:
@ No2Atheism.

What if I tell you I know people that know toyosi and I can deliver for you.

Thanks but no thanks , I no be wife snatcher

stillwater:
They are forgiven.

Yes o,

stillwater:
The black girls without frontside or backside, nko? Do you still love them?

I completely do ,  I would take them over any white woman any time any day,

davidylan:
who is this toyosi that the whole world is dying for? Am i missing something here?
toyosi come out o! 

@davidylan,

Na after i don fall for her already me sef come realise say  that the whole world don dey die for her, me i no wan die for her, me i wan live for her.

The thing tire me o (may be i need to slap myself a little bit  ), however sha nothing for me in this case cus she's in a relationship and 'adultery' is a no no,

stillwater:
You guys don't get it. , don't push it too much with a woman. It's best you leave her to her shakara for a while if she proves stubborn. If she has feelings for you she would find a way to make herself visible to you. Women don't like to be ignored. Use that to your advantage.


I've used words like, would you leave me alone, get out of my sight, how much truthful can one get?

Women don't like to be ignored. Use that to your advantage

1. You just gave me a secret weapon to use , thanks, i actually never really knew that about women.

I've used words like, would you leave me alone, get out of my sight, how much truthful can one get?

2. I feel you, abeg on behalf of reasonable men, forgive them.