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I just walk away from it all . . .

men shyness no even make me watch the song . . .

Kanu almost Huh well he looks like he was present during the last supper

Up nairaland . . . this is why nairaland is better than facebook . . . there are so many potential Basket Mouths in this place . . .

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=354695.msg4964763#msg4964763 date=1258728002]how do u mean? , Nigeria didnt go about stealing peoples cultural stuff,last i checked[/quote]Nice answer . . . most people do not realise that its not really an Africa thing to be stealing other people's property. . . even though there are bound to be thieves in ancient times in Africa, nevertheless i doubt it was on the same scale of what the Europeans normally do to other cultures . . .

Infact its hard to even think or remember any mention of their being organised crime in pre-colonial and pre-arab invasion black african societies . . .

Personally I do not think it has anything to go with goodwill or affordability.

1. I think Europeans through their years (centuries and centuries to be exact, remember it was the Arabs that more or less drove out the Greco-Romans from Egypt) of pillaging and stealing things from Africa have come to understand and know certain things about Africa that African people themselves do not know. That would explain their vociferous pursuit of historical african artefacts even wen the africans themselves do not seem to value those artefacts.

2. Price of an artefact is connected to its perceived historical value . . .

3. I do not think money is really an issue in this case, hence I do not buy into the idea that the cheap cost of the artefact was wat made them return it in the first place.

4. Instead, I  think the artefacts hold no historical value to the French, hence why they were returned.

5. Europeans don't give a shit about our feelings or desires, hence if those artefacts were of immense historical values, i seriously doubt they would have been returned.

6. My suspicion is that there are many more historical artefacts that were stolen, known to be stolen and yet Europeans are refusing to return them to the countries of origin. Hence people should not even think for one second that Europeans really give a shit about our opinion. Its more of whether the item is of value to them or not. That is why i like the way China deals with Europe in a brutal tit for tat style. A significant number of Europeans descended from Barbarians, hence violence and selfishness, survival of the fittest and taken and stealing things from the vulnerable is part of their culture.

7. There is another important question:

HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT IS BEING RETURNED IS THE ORIGINAL ARTEFACT AND NOT JUST A VERY GOOD REPLICA.

there is something called the enemy within . . . it might be possible that some EFCC staff joined specifically so as to infiltrate the organisation and make it impossible for EFCC to investigate certain corrupt individuals.

A debtor is a slave to his creditor . . .

@mad-max

SORRY . . . i did not mean to go all jackie-chan on you . . .  . . . I seem to have itchy mouth and fingers wen it comes to issues like that.


@jesoul

my co-conspirator . . .

you don see say spiky and others don term those of us who refuse to believe general dogma as conspiracy theorists . . . .heya . . .  . ,   imagine . . .

JeSoul:
LOL
why settle to be a lowly suicide bomber when you can enlist in the US army and be a well-paid, desk dweller, surfing the net for fellow jihadists, turning down any assignment you don't like, saying whatever you want as the management is handicapped by political correctness, living up the good life at the local strip club?

I don't understand the fascination of suicide bombers and jihadists with pre-suicide/pre-killing sexual activities. . . its like its a psyche up for them or something . . .

chukwudi44:
so whom did constantine persecute?
I expect you to adduce historical or scriptural evidence to refute my assertions rather than these perile rants

Can you kindly show me the place in the bible where the bible says Peter or Paul were Bishops of Rome . . .

[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=173006.msg4959240#msg4959240 date=1258652254]Global warming is a myth? Climate change is 'natural'? Uninhabited planets experience these changes? Nothings human do or are capable of doing is interacting with and slowly accelerating the process? It would be good to know more. I was alerted to these stuff by Carl Sagan, astronomer and scientist extraordinaire. And other scientists I respect. Are you saying there's a conspiracy by scientists to blame people for climate change, when they're innocent? No emissions from industrialised countries are boring into the ozone layer? Tell me more.[/quote]Yes Global Warming is a myth . . .

1. Nope there is no conspiracy by scientists.


2. Actually its politicians that are peddling and fostering the idea of global warming. . . renowned scientists are actually now publicly speaking up against global warming.

3. Carbon dioxide (CO2) is not a pollutant . . . it is required by plants. Hence more carbon dioxide means more plant growth.

4. Pollution by other chemicals is a bad thing . . . however pollution is not what causes global warming. Global warming is not talking about pollution . . . I am completely against pollution.

5. The Earth has been going through natural cycles of warming and cooling, hence humans have nothing to do with those cycles.

6. Guess wat, in the middle of the last century it was actually claimed by the same propaganda machine that they earth was freezing up . . so in essence, the global propaganda machine went from GLOBAL FREEZING  TO GLOBAL WARMING  . . . just under 100yrs  . . .INCREDIBLE 

7. I was a global warming believer like you  (yes i confess) . . .however i stopped being a believer and started to actually started to question and examine the facts instead of what the general consensus is.

8. Other planets such as Mars, Jupiter and Saturn have been reported to also experience rise in the temperatures. . . so are there also humans on them that are causing the global warming.

9. The one common denominator of rise in planetary temperatures can only be traced back to the Sun (i.e. the sun is doing its job of provide heat and light) so technically speaking, increased solar activity can easily account for the interplanetary increase in planetary temperatures.

10. Ozone layer depletion is caused by pollution and not global warming . . . please do not mix up the two.

11. Ozone layer depletion is caused by pollution through harmful chemicals . . .

13. Ozone is not depleted because the temperature is postulated to be rising . . . on the contrary, the opposite is actually true.

JeSoul:
You forgot to add swine flu, hiphop music, welfare, Al Sharpton and BET 

Nice one there . . .  . . . there goes another conspiracy theorist coming out of the closet.

oyb:
u ain't heard nothing yet

aids is an invention of the devilish white men to put black men down for starters 

spikedcylinder:
^^^
Welcome to No2A's world of conspiracy theories.

If by conspiracy theories you mean . . . the truth . . . then i am guilty as charged  .

I would still speak the truth even if you try to bribe me with a 72 virgins . . .oops sorry. . . those are already taken by jihadists . . . 

okay let me re-phrase:

I would still speak the truth even if you try to bribe me with a 72 Jesouls . . .oops sorry. . .already taken by Italian dude. . . . . . . . 

let me rephrase again

I would still speak the truth even if you try to bribe me with a 72 Spikies . . .oops sorry. . . also already taken by Mr. Tall Dark and Handsome. . .  . . . 


HOPE YOU GET MY DRIFT . . .

WHETHER YOU TERM THE TRUTH CONSPIRACY THEORY OR NOT . . . I COULD CARE LESS.

THE BOTTOM LINE ABOUT ME IS THAT:

IF SOMETHING IS LOGICAL, TRUE AND SENSIBLE AND AGREEABLE . . .THEN I AM ALL FOR IT IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER OR NOT A MILLION OYBs SAY OTHERWISE OR NOT.

chukwudi44:
The roman catholic church existed long before the reign of constantine,it is a continuation of the church left by the apostles,the church is only centred in[b] Rome because that was the last place St Peter worked as bishop[/b].great roman catholics like Ignatius of antioch,polycarp of Smyrna,clement of Rome e.t.c lived long before the reign of emperor constantine.

Please go through your post . , you are evidently not realising that its is blatant falsehood to claim that Peter or Paul or any apostle for that matter were ever Bishops in Rome.

Brainwashing is a bad thing . . .

davidylan:
Why are these people living in the US anyway?

Because:

1. America gives them freedom they wish to actually take away from others.

2. They are parasites that prefer to kill their host and take over his body.

3. They are wagging a population/religious war against the United States.

THE SAME TACTICS BEING USED IN USA IS WHAT WAS USED TO MORE OR LESS WHITE WASH NORHT AFRICA SO MUCH SO THAT NORTH AFRICA IS NOW ARABISED AND FULL OF MAINLY WHITE ARABS, MULATO DESCENDANTS OF ARABS AND OTHER PEOPLE, THE NATIVE BLACK POPULATION WHO ARE NOW EVEN CONSIDERED A MINORITY IN THEIR LANDS.

Lets not forget that some Black African cultures south of the Sahara actually have histories that suggest that they might (i have no proof of this  ) have fled from the Arab invasion in the northern part of africa at one point in time.

JeSoul:
Lol . . . the poor guy thought he was doing a service and coming to educate us, instead we fended and chased him off as if with a broom  if not for it was a 'christian' event lol we wouldn't have been so nice

  Some of the other stuff about pollution and teaching people how to interact with the environment is good, practical stuff though.

Yes i agree . . .i personally also do not have anything against fighting and preventing pollution . . . However what pisses me off is that pollution is not even the thing being peddled by those preachers of global warming. . . instead

Instead they are drinking green tea (pun intended), wearing green this green that. . . doing green things. . . . while making money in the process.



Men i am just gratefully . . . that i have woken up to a lot of bullshit and propaganda in the world . . .

sayso:
Americans can now know that their President is a ceremonial leader,there are 27 powers above him in American and there may be evident of an extraterrestrial involve.your thought on this before I provide proof.

I think this is wat is known as classic dis-information bullshit. . . it is statements like this that make other people terms all sceptics as mere conspiracy theorist. Infact sometimes, statements like this actually are meant to do exactly the job of tarnishing the image of people that might actually be telling the truth.

Yes Obama is just a figure head representing the real owners of America. . . But please what does extraterrestrial have to do with it.

JeSoul:
Digress all you like homeboy . . . this entire thread is one huge fun digression.

Max you can't be buying into the Al Gore song and dance, complete with a sham of a nobel prize. I think global warming is a myth, there's just not enough scientific data to support the sentimental propaganda. We had one of the foremost experts on evnironment give a presentation at school last year. He wrote a book called "Our Father’s World: Mobilizing the Church to Care for Creation"

Needless to say I (and a few other unbelievers) were tormenting the poor guy all night with a global warming skpetics dream-questions. I think he was flustered and slightly teed off at the end while exchanging pleasantries.
-To say people should only eat beef once a month so as to reduce the emissions of a cattle factory in a land far far away
-and flush the toilet only after #2 and only after using 2 squares of tissue paper
-and not buy anything but organic produce . . . etc etc
-and drive mini kia mia's instead of safer bigger cars

  must be due to the onset of dementia. I'm not worried about a future earth that I will not be present in

Poor Guy. . . he had the mistake of having sceptics in the crowd.

The school suppose throw you into college solitary confinement . . . how dare you refuse to be brainwashed . . . 

[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=173006.msg4958710#msg4958710 date=1258647340]Lol Spikie. Bet he's wishing he never went near Megan by now. I thot you were watching 12 Monkeys and posting a review.

Unrepentant blasphemy lol. JK already thinks it's criminal lol. I can't create interest in the danged thing from thin air na. If I say, Hey let's watch some football, my friends will faint. It, golf, and other things that take too long for a winnner to emerge.  Field, track, water sports, gymnastics, extreme sports,oh yeah! Boxing is the worst. Senseless sport, pandering to blood lust. Football sef still better pass am by far.

No2 Climate change is real o. It's no hype.[/quote]I was once a believer in the so called Global Warming  . . . yes i was not always a sceptic . . . , this was until i started questioning and analysing the facts that related to the so called global warming.

Mad Max I am not talking about Climate change . . . I am talking about Global Warming . . . the fraudsters (not you) peddling Global Warming are the ones who tried to move the goals post wen they realise that people have caught on to their lies. Those fraudsters are the ones who are now trying to disguise the name Global Warming as Climate Change.

Initially they were calling it Global Warming . . .(check past infos and videos).
Now they are calling it Climate Change. . .

The Earth's climate is always changing . . .

Even the Climate on at least one planet that does not contain human beings is also changing. Let me repeat what i just said: AT LEAST ONE OTHER PLANET IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS ALSO EXPERIENCING RISE IN TEMPERATURE EVEN THOUGH THERE IS LITTLE OR NO HUMAN ACTIVITY ON IT.

Funny enough, there are reports indicating that global temperatures is actually cooler than in other periods of modern history . . . hence the question becomes: HOW THE HECK IS IT WARMING WHEN IT IS EVIDENTLY COOLER THAN SOME OTHER TIMES.

Do industrialised countries and developing countries pollute the environment - YES

Does pollution mean the same thing as Climate change - NO

Has the Earth been experiecing Climate Change in the past even before industrial revolution - YES

Is climate change the same thing as Global Warming - NO

So why are people now deceitfully calling Global Warming by the name Climate change - BECAUSE ITS A MONEY MAKING FRAUD AND TAXATION SCHEME THAT NEEDS TO BE SOLD TO THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO BE HOODWINKED.

JeSoul:
ROTFLOL  this is serious . . . I know a few fanatics who would curse at this level of blatant unrepentant blasphemy 
  I had you penned for a gunner, don't ask how or why. 
There's a scene in "The Day After Tomorrow" . . . 3 climatologists know they're about to die, they bring out a 12 yr old bottle of scotch to make one last final toast:

1st guy: "To England"
2nd guy: "To mankind"
3rd guy: "To Manchester United!"

It takes courage and dignity to actually face death like that. . .while doing their job.

That is nothing better than actually dying with dignity and honour  . . . I also liked that part of the movie (despite that the movie itself is really part of a propaganda about Global Warming).

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As per global warming by the way, I am a sceptic for the following reasons:


One of the first things a person should consider is that:

1. There is global warming on at least one more planet in the solar system. And the last time i checked, no human being was living on either of the other planets.
2. Yes there is always climate change.
3. Yes it might not be beneficial.
4. However it does not mean it is being caused by humans.
5. Humans can cause pollution i agree. . . but climate change on a global scale . . . hmm i don't think we are that good yet.
6. Earth's climate has always been changing.
7. Guess wat Greenland is being called Greenland because it was Green at one point in time. . . hence it shows that earth's climate also changed to turn it into what it is today. As such for it to turn back into green land again should not really abe a big deal.

Apologies for digressing . . . 

People now ask yourself the question:

- Who gave out these so called loans.
- Who is benefitting.
- To whom or who is the debt being owed.

Trying to answer the above questions is bound to help you understand how the world works . . . and there is something called The Global Elite . . who are doing there best to enslave all of mankind.

focused123:
In reality, Allah is NOT the[b] God of Israel[/b], but the PERSONAL NAME of the 'divine spirit' that according to the beliefs of the pagan Arabs,RESIDED in the Black Stone meteorite - embedded in the wall of the Ka'ba - that was VENERATED by the pagan Arabians long before Muhammad and his Quran.

1. They are still venerating and worshipping the Black Stone . . . 

2. Some people are so brainwashed with islamic lies and demon worship that they would not change nor understand the truth about islam even if you inject them with Truth Serum

FOR THOSE THAT DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE BLACK STONE LOOKS LIKE, PLEASE CHECK THE PICTURES BELOW:

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=24443.msg4958161#msg4958161 date=1258642836]seriously though, if the moon were hit by a meteor and ceased to exist, what effect would this have on your practices?[/quote]Do not expect an answer to that question  . . . .

1. Bow down to or towards a man made idol - CHECK.

2. Make the Moon a central part of your religion - CHECK.

3. Unable to do any miracle - CHECK.

4. Make it justifiable to kill anyone that refuses to convert - CHECK.


ISLAM IS STARTING TO LOOK CLEARER AND CLEARER.

Horus:
https://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01008/thierry_henry_1008316c.jpg


Thierry Henry didnt touch the ball with his hand, it was just an "optical illusion"

When did you become a Jedi Master trying to tell us what we see is not what we think we saw. . .   . . .

@topic

I pity Henry cus:

1. He intentionally handled the ball.
2. I know he would be wishing he can correct and re-do it all over again.
3. His so called clean marketing image has now been tarnished.

I hope for the sake of France and Henry that FIFA orders a replay . . . of the match.

Let's be frank . . . Ireland had their chances . . .and I am sure they would lose if there were another replay . . .

I am just not comfortable with issues and circumstances in which something is tainted . . .

FL Gators:
Thank you.
Infatuation, I think

Heya the little baby girl is growing up fast . . .

Pele . . . teenage years can be bitch at times . . . you then tend to ask yourself why and how the heck was I infatutated in the first place.

Significant number of Europeans did not descend from Barbarians for nothing . . .thats why their culture is so bleeped up in terms of morals.

They do not understand that an African has the natural tendency to respect even his enemies . . .hence why Obama seems (it might be a political gimmick of stopping low to conquer high) to have the tendency to show respect to even his enemies.

I understand that of Muslims who worship the moon god . . . and blackstone.

However the one i do not understand is that why are christians also going on so called pilgrimages considering that as far as the bible is concerned, it adds nothing to their salvation and it also improvishes the people going on such pilgrimages.

When are Africans going to learn to use our common sense.

JeSoul:
I think you hit the nail on the head. I smell a ratings stunt . . .

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=352808.msg4939969#msg4939969 date=1258419776]they're just trying to provoke people.

like anyone cares an unknown black man was edited from the cover?


Would they have the guts or foolishness to remove a photo of denzel, will smith or halle berry?

someone in their studio is trying to incite nonsense over an unknown and possibly lack luster movie, thats all. plus boost their ratings.[/quote]Off course they dare not touch the popular ones . . like denzel and co . . .its usually the small fish. . . that gets pounded and over looked.

The ratings angle is also quite logical . . .it sounds twisted but its quite plausible that they are actually trying to boost the ratings of the film by deceptively touching on racial sensitivities.

totorimi:
but the lady was looking too, i am sure there something unusual they are looking at there, it cant just be ordinary another man's wife Ikebe

I myself i don't know whether the guy is looking at her ass or not . . . i am just suspicious cus i know that it is a very possible and effective method that can be used in a case where the guy might want to look at her ass.

That is why i threw the question to the open floor.

There is one important group of people on nairaland that is being ignored and overlooked. . .

The Schizos - People with Multiple personality disorders and hence have accounts that mimic either The Ethnicists or The Faithfuls or The Fanatics or The Elites or The Ignorants or The Realists or The Grazers or The Idiots

femfem2000:
If we are dying more than others, shouldn't we then be having more children. It only makes logical sense unless you're from the UN, Worldbank or IMF of course.

I never thought of it that way before . . . thats a very good insight . . .

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Unfortunately for me, I just woke up around 2008 and I have been trying to assimilate as much information as possible in order to form an informed opinion on the issue without making dogmatic statements.

I must confess that I am also shocked by the things i am finding out through my own deep appetite for issues relating to African History.

I am even suprised that Black Africa has not yet been wiped out. . .

Most people (including me) do not realise that Black Africa included North Africa and Parts of the so called Middle East . . .Blacks African have been killed and pushed further and further into inner Africa . . .either by Europeans or Arabs . . .

What the Europeans are doing is just much more sophisticated than what Arabs are doing . . .

It would be a miracle if 1000 years from now , there are still people known as Black Africans. . . . . . our leaders are corrupt and asleep. Even the populace themselves are brainwashed by religion hence its almost like a person whom the witches are sucking his blood and is still drinking blood tonic ( rough translation of a yoruba saying)