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@Tudor Stop trying to dodge and hide your falsehood and inaccuracies. 1. I never said the Creator told me anything about the Ethiopians personally (where you got that from is astounding and to be frank I am not suprised that you would descend to the level of saying ridiculous things just to try to justify your position) . . .hence you ridiculous statements are embarrasing and laughable to say the least . . . men this is seriously embarrasing to even read. Its actually starting to become embarrasing that you actually attended Covenant University (which is supposed to be one of the standard private univeristies around)2. Instead I state boldly that THE CREATOR SAID TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE THAT: . . . ISREALITES WERE LIKE THE ETHIOPIANS . . . RNKJV AMOS Chapter 9 5 And the Sovereign יהוה of hosts is he that toucheth the land, and it shall melt, and all that dwell therein shall mourn: and it shall rise up wholly like a flood; and shall be drowned, as by the flood of Egypt. 6 It is he that buildeth his stories in the heaven, and hath founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: יהוה is his name. 7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith יהוה. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir? 8 Behold, the eyes of the Sovereign יהוה are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith יהוה. 9For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth. 10 All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us. --------- KJV AMOS Chapter 9 5 And the Lord GOD of hosts is he that toucheth the land, and it shall melt, and all that dwell therein shall mourn: and it shall rise up wholly like a flood; and shall be drowned, as by the flood of Egypt. 6 It is he that buildeth his stories in the heaven, and hath founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name.c, d 7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir? 8 Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD. 9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.e, f 10 All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us. ------------------------------------------------------------ I can't believe you have descended this low just to try and cover your ass even though its obvious to every man and his dog that you are just doing your best to riggle out of the corner you have boxed yourself into . . . . 1. You do not need to be in Ethiopia before you are called an Ethiopian . . . . 2. Mr. Atheist Tudor please note that I did not say "Isreal is in the Land of Ethiopia", instead I said "Isrealites were like the Ethiopians", those are two different statements in case you do not know ![]() 3. An Ethiopian is the ancient name that was used to refer to ALL black people . . . . . . . . let me repeat that again in case you did not get it. . . . An Ethiopian is the ancient name that was used to refer to ALL black people . . . 4. Tudor please do not disgrace yourself on nairaland, please try to understand that there is a difference between "an Ethiopian" and "Land of Ethiopia" . . . ![]() 5. Tudor stop making straw men arguments just to save yourself the embarrasment of your position. Please go back to the library and try to read some historical books cus it seems your frame of reference as to the meaning of the name Ethiopian is a little limited in range. The last time i checked . . . A PERSON CAN BE AN ETHIOPIAN WITHOUT ACTUALLY LIVING IN THE LAND OF ETHIOPIA. . . hence your statement and stance does not even make logical sense in terms of my statements. Tudor the Atheist that beleives in a White Jesus . . . please note that: THE CREATOR HIMSELF SAID ISREALITES WERE LIKE THE ETHIOPIANS. THE CREATOR DID NOT SAY ISREAL WAS IN ETHIOPIA. Please do not embarras yourself and kindly try to understand the difference between the two english statements given above. |
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=340278.msg4978698#msg4978698 date=1258962379]@mr racist. 1. I've tried my best, but would anyone try to educate this wierdo that atheism has no link whatsoever with the skin colour of ancient nomadic tribesmen. He claims to be 29 yrs old (probably 30) but still reasons like a kid. 2. Christianity was brought to our motherland by the slave trading white prick. So yes, yahweh is the white mans saviour. Its funny how the white man himself has abandoned such delusions centuries ago but Africans are still keen on it, even exporting it abroad. What a shame. 3. Here is one who blames the europeans and americans for every woe in his life, yet comfortably lives amongst them in manchester while trying shamelessly to convert their messiah to a negro. 4. Not once has this guy ever produced evidence to support his claim besides rambling on that the creator told him and presenting some crazy unreviewed book. 5. Mr man, be confident as a negro, you don't need to make jesus out as a negro to give meaning to your life. 6. This thread isn't abt existence dont divert[/quote]Okay now this is starting to get creepy . . . 1. 29 - 30 yrs ![]() 2. Manchester . . . ![]() WHAT DOES AGE AND LOCATION HAVE TO DO WITH THE DISCUSSION AT HAND . . . . . . . . . this is really very very creepy. UNLESS OFF COURSE YOU ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO OBTAIN PERSONAL INFORMATION ------------------------ 2. Christianity was brought to our motherland by the slave trading white prick. So yes, yahweh is the white mans saviour. Its funny how the white man himself has abandoned such delusions centuries ago but Africans are still keen on it, even exporting it abroad. What a shame.This is really embarrasing . . . you ought to sue Covenant University cus this your hubris (in place of a statement of fact) is quite embarrasing to say the least . . .ALL THAT YOU HAVE SAID IS BASED ON YOUR OPINION AND NOT ON HISTORICAL FACT . . . .men this is really embarrasing. Do you not even realise what this propaganda have to say about your knowledge of history . . . WORD OF ADVICE: 1. Its better to hear twice and speak once otherwise you are bound to expose yourself as to how limited your knowledge of history really IS . . . 2. Any student of history, truth and fact would be embarrased to be saying the things that you are currently saying . . . |
JeSoul:1. I am likewise also a little bit sceptical at times of such stories since I know that there are accounts of "false prophets" and "teachers" also sharing stories and accounts of similar variety. 2. Can we be done the priviledge of getting to know those tales . . . |
@michelin I repeat why are you generalising . . . I am a bible believer who does not subscribe to the denominational bullshit that is prevalent in todays world . . . I prefer not to really use the word "Christian" to classify myself (for obvious reasons), nevertheless I know that the word Christian is used to generally classify those who take the bible as final authority. Hence my question is that: Why are you generalising . . .or have I insulted you before (let me know so that i can apologise) |
JeSoul:That is also my style . . . I usually run for cover also, before something bad happens or before my own brain tears me apart with so many questions of what might be wrong . . . Max dear hope you had a lovely weekendYou better no let mad max husband catch you . . . ![]() |
michelin89:And why are u generalising . . . |
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=340278.msg4982788#msg4982788 date=1259007246]^^^ Why the senseless ranting? Pls can anyone ask this joker to show us different ancient records where ALL black people were referred to as ethiopians? What kind of slowpoke uses quips like "The creator told me they are like ethiopians" as evidence for anything. What damn creator? Your creator must be retarded because no evidence acheological or whatsoever points to ancient jews as Negro. So take your crazy ramblings to the dogs. . .no sensible human being with perfect intellect would take you seriously.[/quote]. . . more HOT AIR . . . ![]() -------------------------- Trying to sweep your issues under the carpet . . .oops Tudor the atheist with any affinity for a White Jesus . . . ![]() |
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=340278.msg4982802#msg4982802 date=1259007327]Damn, sometimes I do wonder if you're a 30 year old adult as you claim. . . . This is shocking.[/quote]Hmm . . . .claim . . . ![]() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seems like someone is trying to change the topic . . . ![]() |
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=340278.msg4979511#msg4979511 date=1258972789]Keep deluding yourself. Last time I checked, ancient israel wasn't in ethiopia. . . .unless ofcourse No2Atheism is just being a slowpoke.[/quote] ![]() Tudor is dancing . . . keep dancing . . . . ![]() Tudor Tudor keeep dancing . . . ![]() --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I can't believe you have descended this low just to try and cover your ass even though its obvious to every man and his dog that you are just doing your best to riggle out of the corner you have boxed yourself into . . . . 1. You do not need to be in Ethiopia before you are called an Ethiopian . . . . 2. Mr. Atheist Tudor please note that I did not say "Isreal is in the Land of Ethiopia", instead I said "Isrealites were like the Ethiopians", those are two different statements in case you do not know ![]() 3. An Ethiopian is the ancient name that was used to refer to ALL black people . . . . . . . . let me repeat that again in case you did not get it. . . . An Ethiopian is the ancient name that was used to refer to ALL black people . . . 4. Tudor please do not disgrace yourself on nairaland, please try to understand that there is a difference between "an Ethiopian" and "Land of Ethiopia" . . . ![]() 5. Tudor stop making straw men arguments just to save yourself the embarrasment of your position. Please go back to the library and try to read some historical books cus it seems your frame of reference as to the meaning of the name Ethiopian is a little limited in range. The last time i checked . . . A PERSON CAN BE AN ETHIOPIAN WITHOUT ACTUALLY LIVING IN THE LAND OF ETHIOPIA. . . hence your statement and stance does not even make logical sense in terms of my statements. Tudor the Atheist that beleives in a White Jesus . . . please note that: THE CREATOR HIMSELF SAID ISREALITES WERE LIKE THE ETHIOPIANS. THE CREATOR DID NOT SAY ISREAL WAS IN ETHIOPIA. Please do not embarras yourself and kindly try to understand the difference between the two english statements given above. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [size=14pt]Finally, TUDOR you still have not explained why you an atheist is very much in defense of the White Jesus . . . .[/size] |
Mr blazer:1. I don't do personal insults . . . i tend to stick with the truth even if it pisses you off. 2. Try again . . . such things bring little or nothing to the table. 3. Are you really naive enough to think Catholics brought the bible to your house . . . please go and learn about history [b]TO KNOW that Catholics did everything possible (including killing people) so as to prevent people from having personal access to the bible. READ UP ON CHURCH HISTORY AND COME BACK AND THEN IT WOULD BE EASY FOR YOU TO MAKE AN "UNBIASED STATEMENT" |
chinedumo:1. Who determines whats moral and whats immoral . . . is it those trying to control people that do that or is it the availability of information that makes people to know for themselves that which is moral and that which is immoral. 2. When there is availability of information, its easy for people to be free of control and hence easy for those people to know which is moral according to the scriptures. This is because they would not lack the knowledge to know such. |
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=340278.msg4978756#msg4978756 date=1258963555]He ain't a NEGRO either so quit making him out to be one![/quote] ![]() Keep dancing around . . . ![]() The last time i checked, an Ethiopian is considered to be a Negro . . . unless off course Tudor has changed it . . . ![]() |
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naijababe:Haba . . . . . . do you really sincerely think i do not know the answer to the question i asked.It was a rhethorical question . . . i already know that they are trying to save their own ass and continue to hold on to the control and power they have over brainwashed people . . . hence its not like i don't already have an idea of why they are doing that. However i intentionally asked the question so that others can also get to learn in the process of others contributing to the thread. By the way, which is more important: 1. The saving the catholic church from demise . . . or 2. The salvation of the souls of men as a result of knowing the truth through the exposure of the things being kept secret by the catholic church . . . |
@Tudor the atheist that still believes in a "White Jesus" . . .nairaland never ceases to amaze me with the amount of contradictory stances that some people actually take. ![]() @Horus where did you get that picture of tsangarai . . . Personally as far as am concerned . . . 1. Mugabe is a criminal. 2. Europeans are worse than Mugabe . . . they came to the land as aliens, stole the land and then tried to make the owners of the land slaves on their own land. WE HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN TWO EVILS . . .MUGABE OR WHITE ZIMBABWE @Horus who is that woman in the picture and is their any news report as regards the picture. I would rather take Mugabe . . . and kick him out later. |
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=340278.msg4976658#msg4976658 date=1258920863]^^^ Firstly Mr crazy-head racist, who is "messiah"? I only know the bloke as a dead carpenter called Jesus.[/quote] ![]() 1. The name Jesus is a so called European name given to the Messiah. . . 2. The Messiah was not an european . . . 3. Hence i do not refer to him by that name . . . |
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=340278.msg4976658#msg4976658 date=1258920863]^^^ Firstly Mr crazy-head racist, who is "messiah"? I only know the bloke as a dead carpenter called Jesus.2. You're right an atheist doesn't believe in the bible so your stupid 'evidence' about the Jesus being black in the bible or how the "creator" told you this in your dreams is shit. 3. I find it insulting if not sad that an african would so desperately try to link the black race to the white mans saviour/god who I might add loved and commanded slavery of which we were victims for centuries. 4. Its not by force to be jewish mr crazy head. It shows your inferiority complex the way you're desperately trying to label jews negroid. 5. And incase you're illiterate(cos you have no idea as to the definition of an atheist), an atheist is one who does not believe in god or gods and no definition includes opinions on the race of ancient jews. . . So using extremes such as moving from "Atheism" to "White messiah" is just daft. . .gerrit ganja head?[/quote] ![]() 1. Keep deceiving yourself to help you sleep at nigth . . . 2. If you don't believe in the bible then stop contradicting yourself by arguing about his Whiteness or Blackness . . . an informed person who does not beleive the Bible would normally simply keep quiet instead : you have opened your mouth to show that you are not even in full understanding of the kind of responsibility your atheistic position bestows upon you. 3. Naaa . . . the one with an inferiority complex is one who is an atheist because the west says so and not becuase science shows so. 4. The one who needs to examine himself and his faith is one who beliefs in claims to be an atheist and yet can't seem answer the simply question : HOW DID EXISTENCE AND LIFE BEGIN AND WHERE. 5. Naaa . . . the one who is unsure is the one who automatically equateS the Messiah of the bible to be a White man's god . . . despite claiming to be knowledgeable (even though the same Bible never claimed to have anything to do with Europeans, infact most of the people that seemed to have a relationship with the Creator in the bible seem to stem from people that were somehow connected to Africa/Middle East one way or another ). . . the bible is not about europeans , was never about europeans . . .and infact europeans are the only ones called gentiles . . . (even Africans were not called Gentiles). Tudor you disappoint men . . . how can you stoop so low as to say that the Bible is talking about the White man's god . . . .now i can confirm that the brainwashing is still in full effect despite you attempts to claim that you are an atheist.6. The one who is brainwashed is the one who seems to be supporting things that are Eurocentric in nature but still continues to deceive self into thinking the he or she is mentally independent of the same Europeans. 7. You might have been mentally traumaticed by your time in Covenant University, nevertheless that does not mean u still are not brainwashed into subconsciously believing and defending the White image of the Messiah. . . TUDOR THE ATHEIST THAT BELIEVES IN A WHITE MESSIAH . . . .NAIRALAND NEVER FAILS TO IMPRESS . . . ![]() 8. I am not claiming the Jews to be black. . . INSTEAD I AM STATING AND PROCLAIMING WHAT THE CREATOR HIMSELF HAS ALREADY SAID IN THE BIBLE THAT . . . . THE CHILDREN OF ISREAL WHERE LIKE THE ETHIOPIANS . . . . THAT IS THE TRUTH . . . IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT GO AND SUE THE CREATOR HIMSELF . . . ![]() 9. Tudor and the "White European Jews" . . . . ![]() Tudor . . . .Tudor . . . ![]() |
@Tudor Can you please do a biographical expose of your experience at Covenant University so that we can know part of the root cause of why u have come to despise the Creator . . . |
I find it weird that it seems the Catholic has access to a number of historical books and manuscripts and yet for some unknown reason, it seems to be keeping them secret. - Why is this and for wat purpose is this being done. - Is it not profitable for knowledge to be disseminated to all people of all nations. Did the Bible not say that people are perishing for lack of knowledge. . .hence would it not be logical to say that the Catholic church is actually contributing to the perishing of these souls by intentionally withholding historical information. |
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=340278.msg4974359#msg4974359 date=1258881614]^^^ Here we go again with the crazy heads. . .jesus was NOT black African, get that into your racist skull.[/quote]- YES he is Mr. Atheist . . .prove otherwise at least I have the Bible to back up my claims . . . what do you have to back up yours . . . . . . or are you going to use evolution to show that the Messiah was White and European . . . . ![]() - By the way Mr. Atheist are you frontsliding away from atheism or something . . . how come you claim to be an atheist yet you are still holding on to the brainwashing you got about the race of the Messiah. . . . why are you still holding on steadfastly to the White Messiah even though you claim not to believe in the bible. ITS THAT NOT CONTRADICTORY. ![]() An Atheist fighting tooth and nail that the Messiah was not black . . . - 1. An atheist is not supposed to believe in the Bible and hence not supposed to believe in a Messiah in the first place. - 2. The atheist that claims not to believe in the Bible is also the same atheist that is fighting to maintain and preserve the European image of the Messiah. . . - 3. The existence or non - existence of a Messiah should not bother an atheist, yet for some reason the race and skin colour of the Messiah seems to bother Tudor. . . Someone is having a crisis of mind don't you think . . . Ooops i think we have a backsliding atheist on our hands . . . I think Tudor needs to choose one and stay with it . . . which one is it that you are jumping from ''Atheism" to "White Messiah". Tudor why are you still holding on to your bible beliefs even though you claim not to . . . Tudor why are you still fighting to ensure that the European White Jesus is upheld even though you are claiming to be an atheist . . . Are we even sure Tudor is who he claims to be . . . this one that he is supporting Atheism and White Messiah both at the same time . . . |
[quote author=tpia. link=topic=355031.msg4974033#msg4974033 date=1258865275]^^ you need to check posts before jumping in. The manwoman amaka likes taking me on because some NLers are pumping her ego. So she normally attacks me whenever she feels its her lucky day. It gets her high somehow. anyway, as i was saying if this isnt senselessness then call me applesauce.[/quote]Apologies . . . in case u think i was jumping in (technically i am not but that detail is irrelevant really). 1. Actually i have noticed in previous posts and i think in other threads that you two seem to be going at it . . . 2. Yes you might be right she might be wrong, You might be wrong she might be right. However thats not my focus. I just wish that you ladies try to stop the cat fight. |
[quote author=Busy_body link=topic=316937.msg4973850#msg4973850 date=1258856691]^^^ Figuratively speaking, when are you gonna do me, shouldn't i be your first . . . err . . . coughing, ha this bloody cough again [/quote]Sagamite . . . haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
michelin89:1. You are very correct . . . 2. You just earned a little respect from me just for this statement of yours . . . That does not mean i do not disagree with you on some other topics though ![]() |
Sagamite: @Sagamite can you please re-phrase you statement . . . that statement is very dangerous . . . |
michelin89:just curious . . .as you made it sound like nairaland has always been around since like forever. Since you are a older and obviously more matured female, please advice the poster to please focus on her studies . . . she is at an age in which her hormones would be playing tricks on her . . . hence making it easy for guys to take advantage of her. I am a guy and trust me it does not take a lot for sweet nothings to be said just to be able to sleep with ladies . . . hence the reason why i would prefer if the poster faces her studies instead. |
michelin89: Michelin . . . how old is this forum and how old are you really . . . you make it sound like this forumn has been around since like forever . . . @poster Please face your studies and ignore guys . . .there is time for everything. You are too young to even be considering issues like this . . . YES I AM ALSO IN THE UK (for now) . . . AND HENCE I KNOW HOW FAST PEOPLE GROW UP OVER HERE. |
@topic and @poster 1. I am a guy, hence in reality its difficult for me to completely understand your perspective and feelings in this scenario. Hence i understand that a few of my statements might be not appropriate when considered from the perspective of a woman (apologies if that is the case). 2. There is nothing to be afraid about, do not stress yourself. Yes i understand you are a woman and hence you be probably running on a kind of biological and emotional clock. 3. There are those who got married early and ended up regreting it, yet there are those who go married late and have been blissful ever since. Thus getting married early is not a guarantee of a successful marriage. 4. This does not mean i am wishing that you also get married late, instead what i am trying to say is that you should focus more on finding love rather than on beating time. 5. I am in support of some (not all) of the things suggested by Wisecutie shown below . . . the only things i am partly in support of are the ones i have quoted below. . . I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE THINGS I HAVE NOT QUOTED. wisecutie:6. Love and relationship is not really mathematics, hence its never straigthforward. For example, let me use myself as an example: - I have encountered ladies that ticked all the boxes in terms of beauty and my fantasy, nevertheless at the end of the day . . . weird as it sounds . . . I still do not consider them to be wife material. Hence the attraction does not go beyond the admiration of beauty and fantasy. - On the other hand, there are ladies who initially do not tickle my fancy, but for some unknown reason, I grow more and more attracted to them with each passing day. . . so much so that I consider them to be wife material. 7. Please whatever you do, never ever become bitchy or slutty . . . this is because most men that i know would never want to make a bitchy or slutty woman a wife. 8. It is true that some men might be intimidated by successful or highly educated women. . .this is however not always really true. Hence i kinda support wat FL Gators said highly educate women being high priced favourites of men. 9. You need to understand some things about we men. Men take pride and show off their wives based on the combination of either of the following. - Homeliness. - Beauty. - Brains. - Wealth. - Common sense and Maturity. Hence men end up getting attracted to women based on their preferences and combination of the preferences listed above. |
@tpia Please apologies in advance, I do not mean to be unnecessary nosey, I am just inquisitive. 1. Are you really the age you claim . . . 2. If the answer is yes, then How do you cope with people with childish and naive mindset on the site . . . 3. If the answer is yes, then How do you cope with getting insulted by users that are barely out of puberty. . . |
@tpia @the-amaka Ladies please abeg stop it . . . 1. there is no need for the cat fight . . . 2. I don't know wat whether or not those ages claimed by either parties are the true ages or not. . . frankly it does not matter. . . 3. the issue here is that please please stop fighting and stop bickering. . . |
gestapo:Okay thank you , unfortunately i don't have access to the publication as we speak. |
@gestapo Can you please provide the link to the full interview . . . i want to read the interview myself and draw my own conclusions instead of reading it through you. . . |
alexis:Please note that I am not saying Pastor Chris is trying to be like Jesus . . . I don't know and I don't care, cus only him can really answer that question. . . instead my focus is on this your highlighted statement. I don't grow my hair because I want to be like Jesus1. This statement is loaded, good, sound and confusing all at the same time. 2. What do you mean by not wanting to grow your hair. 3. The statement implies that you seem to have a perception of what the Hair of the Messiah looked like. 4. Which kind of hair did the Messiah have. 5. How do you think the Messiah looked like. 6. The Bible makes us to understand that we need to tell the Truth at all times. 7. Is there not something wrong somewhere when Pastors (who are supposed to know the Truth) ends up promoting an European image of the Messiah, even though the bible made it very clear that: Europeans were the Gentiles (not the Africans) and that the Messiah was certainly not an European. |
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Figuratively speaking, when are you gonna do me, shouldn't i be your first . . . err . . . coughing, ha this bloody cough again