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FL Gators:
Thanks. But my school is not in Tallahassee. So you want me to drive (walk in this instance) 3hrs (walking= 3days) to find a church?

Yea, let's try another advice


@N2A
No o, I won't take it. I don't want any religion bashing. I just want people to explain the beliefs of the religions more.

the thread would be derailed i can guarantee u that, hence u can contact me personally and ask me any question u want and i would do my best to give u the answer then u can come back on NL to expose any answer that i give u which u do not agree with.

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below are a few real time occult monuments in real life for those who have eyes to see:

Bastage:
First thing: the above is just conspiracy bullshit. The Illuminati does not exist and the Freemasons do not worship the All Seeing Eye.
The image itself may have originated with the Egyptians but it has also been used many times in Christianity - particularly during the Renaissance. It was used to depict the Trinity. So actually, the All Seeing Eye is a symbol that was adopted by Christianity. Hence anyone who burbles on about worshipping Osiris and Freemasons and Illuminati running the world is just talking crap. End of story.

 

- So u are saying because it has been used before hence it means it is no occultic, wow wish someone reminded Moses about that wen the same images were being used in ancient Egypt.

- did the Bible ask the church to have symbols to represent anything in heaven - no

- Are u trying to say the the Renaissance is the time of holiness and purity or something cus i don't understand why ur usage of that period as a reference is proof for anything.

- hence because some churches (like the Celestial Church of Christ and Catholics) use the "All Seeing Eye" symbols is not a confirmation that its is biblical.

- The bible clearly shows in the 2nd commandment that no representation of anything heavenly should be made in a form of any image on heart.

- U really have to be the most gullible human being on heart if u think the following items: "Statue of Liberty, Erect Penis (Washington Monument), and Pyramid in Egypt, Pyramid on the US Dollar, Bohemian Grove connection, Owl on the US Dollar, All Seeing Eye on the US Dollar, Freemasons, Illuminatie symbols" do not have anything to do with the occult.

There is plenty that Christians do that doesn't glorify the creator. Every single day there are a multiple of instances. Unless you're a monk, it's probably safer that you stay in bed and don't get up at all.
As for falling into the practice of an occult without even knowing it? That's pretty damn laughable. If you worship the Christian god, you worship the Christian god. If you worship the Islamic god, you worship the Islamic god. If you worship the Hindu, etc. You can't worship the Christian god and be a Hindu.
Your statement is illogical and laughable.

- Presence and prevalence of sin or occult practices is not justification for its correctness. If it is sin , it is sin no two ways about it.
- If the Bible condemns it, then it is sin whether or not some christians practise it or not is irrelevant.

- I am really starting to doubt ur comprehension as a person if you don't realise and understand that it is completely possible for someone to be in a cult without even knowing it e.g. Jonestown of November 18, 1978 is an example of how people can be in a cult without even knowing. 

Instances? How many people do you know who have tattoos? How many of them are practicing Satanists?

You do not need to be a practising satanist before u are a sinner.
You do not need to be a practising satanist before u realise that Tatoos have links to the occult.
You do not need to be a practising satanist to know that Tatoos do not glorify the Creator.
You do not need to be practising satanist

The Bible is our reference book, hence i don't need to know any practising satanist before i know that the use and support of tatooing is unbiblical and inherently wrong for anyone who claims to be saved by the Messiah of the Bible.

You cannot be of the World and still claim to have been saved it does not work.

I personally don't like tattoos. I don't have one and have no intention of getting one. And I would be pretty annoyed if my kids got one. I believe that too often the tattoo is of poor quality and also with time, fades to look bad on the skin. But to use a forgotten, irrelevant law and a load of mumbo jumbo that has no basis in Christianity to condemn it is ignorant.

Your personal opinion is not relevant, because it is not what determines the truth.
Your personal choices is not relevant, because it is not what determines the truth.

The Bible determines the truth.

As far as the bible is concerned, Tatoos do not glorify the creator end of story.
As far as the bible is concerned, Tatoos ends up defacing the body and since the our body is not ours but the Creators, hence we are not permitted to defile it.

The Bible never said that the All Seeing Eye represented the Creator, that catholic church and the occults did.


[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=267506.msg4110307#msg4110307 date=1246327178]This is true. But I have a feeling the illuminati will be having a comeback.[/quote]@Lady i would advise u stick defending the Catholic church cus u are stepping to dangerous territory here.
@Lady do not be deceived:

- Cults like the Illuminati are not going to advertise themselves on television as to whether or not they exist.
- The catholic church uses basically the same occultic symbols used by cults like the illuminati and the freemasons, hence i am not suprised that you choosen to play the devil's advocate by saying you believe the Illuminati do not exist.

It is one thing to be in denial, it is another thing to be completely ignorant of information readily available and cross-reference via the internet through a diligent research and analysis of world history and world events.

Yes the Illuminati exists.
Yes the Freemasons exists.
Yes the Knights Templar Exists.
Yes Skull and Bones exists.

@Lady since u claim the Freemasons do not worship the Eye of Osiris (All seeing eye), then can u kindly tell me what or who they worship.


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The ignorance and naivety of Africans, Christians and people in general is really starting to become scary: how the heck does a sane man see the internet, crosscheck the facts from the internet and still go ahead to claim

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You might be wondering if these people are so powerful and so secretive how come people know about them, well the answer is simple:

1. the control the media hence the use the media to label as conspiracy theorist people that expose them (just as @Bastage is currently doing by saying he does not believe and at the same time claim that those who do are conspiracy theorist)

2. They are not really hiding (u need to check nigeria and usa monuments and public building to know that they really are not hiding), remember they say the best way to keep a secret is to tell everybody, hence no one would really believe the truth cus everybody already knows it and thus would not really sound like the truth.


People should please be careful about dis-information agents like @Bastage who seek to deny the obvious even wen it is glaring to see with ur eyes and confirm from the bible wen possible (cus its not always possible to confirm from the bible)


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Below is the basic structure of the illuminati and how everything fits together.

[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=290236.msg4110300#msg4110300 date=1246326967]Dude you need to bleed to Orange and Green. Take yourself to Tallahassee. To the home of the one and only Marching 100.

If you care for your religious belief. Do your research about all Churches, use logic, history, and unbiased sources. And most of all pray pray pray. The Lord reveals himself to those who really care.

Smooches.[/quote]@lady please note that she is not a dude, she is a she.

By the way the Creator and the Messiah reveals Himself to those who walk according to scripture and not to those who really care [/b]and not to those who operate according to [b]tradition, otherwise even buddah would have been revealed to cus he obviously really also cared to know the truth.


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Men thank goodness the Roman Catholic Church is no longer killing people like before otherwise it would have been serious double trouble for bible believers considering that Islam is killing and slaugthering on one hand and Roman Catholicsm is also killing and slaughtering on another hand.

[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=284000.msg4110289#msg4110289 date=1246326546]I quoted you and you didn't quote a Pope. If you do not understand english language, that is not my problem.
Anyway I am not going to get into the Mary issue with you. That's your blindness and hatred, and[i] it is up to God to judge you on how you treat His Mother[/i].
Omenuko has responded well to you.[/quote] Holy flying spaghetti monster

Did u just mention God  and Mother of God WTF!!!

The ferouscity with which u are using to defend the Roman Catholic Church even against things clearly stated/written in the Bible is starting to change from merely being amusing to downright scary .


@lady

I don't get it, why have u become so hostile all of a sudden. You sincerely were not like this a few months ago. What happened.

You be responding almost as if its a war and not a discussion. Haba pipe down. At the end of the day:

- If u are right and others are wrong then those who are wrong go to hell or otherwise the reverse is true.

So in as much as discussion is good and its good for u to win. At least put it in context that winning or losing the discussion is not really the goal; instead the salvation of the soul is.

Abeg cool cool temper 

this man that number is needed oh

[quote author=oyinda. link=topic=289253.msg4110181#msg4110181 date=1246321941]u use body lotion on ur hair?
I do too once in a while and it works like a charm. hair lotions are too expensive but i'll have to get some eventually.

yea ur lucky ur not a girl. a black girl at that [/quote]Yep i do jare, most hair creams are too oily and messy for my liking. I only use hair creams wen its very cold and body lotions would not be good enough.

Moreover since i am mostly skinning my head, it means my use of lotions does not really affect my hair cus it means i am only focusing more on my scalp (which is just a skin situated on the top of my head).

davidylan:
Michael Jackson is a sad story in how not to hate your skin color.
He's gone . . . but never got to pass on his DNA to his children.

@david

thats the part that pains me the most  .

- now some white children would inherit everything he owns and has worked for all his life and then later try to find their true biological father and their true biological father would then start benefitting from what they do not work for. It is really sad that micheal decided to go down this route.

- now some white former wife would also fight to have a share of it.

- now the white children would probably also give birth to white children later in future, so that in about 500yrs from now, people would never believe it that Micheal Jackson was actually a black person. Just as some people and even black people find it hard to believe that Hannibal was not white, that the Messiah was not white.

- Sometimes i am starting to suspect maybe there is a conspiracy to ensure that successful black males in the US end up having their future generations assimilated and absorbed into the White populations so that history becomes twisted and falsified later in future.

- No one in 500 years would believe that Micheal Jackson was actually black, because he never really  used he's own sperm to seed and propagate his own future generations. (considering i don't really believe those are his children).

- The issue of creating identity and historical problems for ones future generations 200yrs from now is one of the reasons why i am sceptical and unsupportive of successful black men getting married to white women.

Cus history shows that there are a lot of examples in which history has been falsified by the whites who are desperately trying to pretend as if they actually have anything to do with history.

thanks goodness am a male.

- Skin Head (like mohawkchic ) always - $0 to maintain.
- Personal Shaving Clipper to shave anything anywhere - been using it for the past 2 yrs  - $0 to maintain.

In short, I am spending little or nothing on my hair. Yet i dare not show my picsur to avoid causing some ladies here to faint  men its so good to be a man.

@davidylan

I am telling you, now u know the reason why i have decided to expend my energy flirting on the romance thread rather than bang my head against the wall with huxley and co.

my mouth just opens in bewilderment sometimes based on wat they say 

I gave up on them a long time ago, cus i got fed up.

Discussing with atheists (who illogically claim not to believe in evolution), evolutionist (who claim not to be atheists) and others in between, is like trying to escape your own shadow, its impossible. They have made up their mind not even considering the most basic scientific principles that completely negate that hypothesis known as evolution.

I just get fed up and leave them to their folly.


I saw the point made by @fina (about how organisms fundamentally resist changes in their DNA) and that particular point was quite splendid. Yet to my suprise @huxley still seems hell bent not to even want to realise that: Mathematics, Biology, Genetics, Physics, Chemistry are all against evolution. @huxley does not seem to realise that evolution as indirectly become his religion considering that he is no longer even being justified by science but rather by faith in things that might happen in future  .

Its hopeless discussing with someone who never admits a wrongdoing.

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
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Michael Jackson - Lady of my life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOZsTdLy87E&feature=related

[flash=400,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/xOZsTdLy87E&feature=related[/flash]

[quote author=inspired_m link=topic=289440.msg4109454#msg4109454 date=1246309061]Thanks for the voice of reason




Sup you



[b]Surely you have to choose to love someone before you accept them for a relationship, after which love starts to grow and blossom. You can''t just accept to love every Tom, D.ick and Harry that comes your way, you have to make a choice [/b][/quote]No u do not have to choose, simply because you and nobody else can know whether or not u love the person. The best u have is sexual attraction at the start of the relationship.

- You might be confusing sexual attraction with love. They are not the same thing.

- That is the reason why it is false for anybody to claim love at first sight.

- The best that happens is lust or sexual attraction at first sight.

- Love takes time to develop, hence u can either end up loving someone u are sexually attracted to or end up not loving them. Hence the reason why most modern marriages break-up, cus there was sexual attraction in the beginning but they never developed love for each other over time. Thus wen the sexual attraction and lust started to fade, the relationship started to break-up.

- Love is one word that i always do my best to use with caution.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=289596.msg4109229#msg4109229 date=1246306189]Many negros do perm their hairs. Was a reigning trend sometime ago.
Plus if you gonna look white,you might as well do it completely. No point in looking white with a negro hair, nose or jaw, you'd look ridiculous![/quote]@tudor

i completely agree with you on this.

Jackson would have looked very ridiculous with a flat nose, pale skin (even white people looked colored compared to jackson) and afro hair.

Hence going white really seemed quite logical if people really sincerely consider it.

people are just crucifying the guy for making a decision that was quite reasonable at that point in time and age.

@spiky

i do not know if it affected his hair or not.

spikedcylinder:
I see. . . Thanks.
I think its a matter of choice though. Some people choose to lighten, others choose to darken. Check the second post on this page, the man darkened his skin.
Plus, it doesn't help that there's always been controversies that Michael had never really been proud of his race.

Nope spiky the man did not darken his skin, wat he did is mere make-up something he usually has to do everyday and everytime.

Imagine urself doing make up everytime u sweat, play, swim and other things for the rest of your life and also for every part of the body that is exposed and not just ur face.

Imagine how many hours u spend just making up your face once or twice a day, no imagine the kind of stress Jackson had to go through trying to make up.

Hence since the pigmentation is being lost, the most sensible and cost effective way to go was to de-pigment himself and make himself look pale so that it would even out the other white patches permanently so that he would have to do make-up only once in a while.

spikedcylinder:

there are FBI and CIA and SSS and MI6 around be careful

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=289666.msg4105435#msg4105435 date=1246265661]No one is even talking about the children!
I mean,how would you feel if your supposed mother signed you over to your 'alleged' father for money, threatens your 'father' for more money and after your 'father' dies wants custody in order to get his wealth while revealing your 'dad' isn't your real father that you were anonymously 'donated'. . . .
Geez! No wonder white people are so fuc.ked up mentally![/quote]Tell me something new, yet they keep using their mass media like cnn and co to insinuate that they are the best race on the earth.

- How can a woman decide to sell her own children to Micheal Jackson.
- Openly say he's the father, then later claim he's not.
- Get money for giving the children away and then later want more money.
- Now want the children back from their so called father and claim he's not the father.

Jackson family needs to sue her for the initial money she collected and make sure she does not get even a penny in future considering the children were not jackson's, she should go and meet the baby daddies for the real alimony she wants.


- It really pains me that Jackson's wealth, legacy, records and future family name would be inherited by a bunch of white looking kids that might not even be related to him in a way or manner. How sad for it to end this way for him.


I just pity black guys like Kobe Bryant and co who have put themselves in the same situation of being married to a white woman.

Now MJ would never have any descendants bearing his blood, instead he would have a couple of impostors bearing his name and spending his hard earned money.

Its sad wen i see successful black men destroy their own family history by mixing up with caucasians and ultimately cutting themselves off from the general black community. For example, its difficult to hardly remember the Moors now cus some of them decided to mix with the Europeans and ended losing their family identity as a result, cus there is nothing more confusing than for a white descendant to realise that he is actually descended from a black grand-parent.

spikedcylinder:
Chai o. But bald head is not a crime na.

O girl, embrace your gorimapa!

@KD

if n u nko, u go embrace am

Michael Jackson [/b]with [b]Akon - Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' 2008

[flash=400,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/jd2qGORs8io[/flash]

she should just go skinhead like mohawkchic , u might never know she might actually look as good as a skin head like mohawkchic. Cus i think thats better than the embarrasment of having a receeding hair line.

Love[i] does not change[/i]
Lust changes
Sexual attraction changes

Love does not fade
Lust fades
Sexual attraction fades


Hence why u love your father, mother, siblings even if though u not sexually attracted to them normally (for a normal family).
Hence why u love your wife even if she is starting to look like a cow that makes her unattractive sexually.
Hence why u love your husband even if he is starting to look like a slob that causes him to become unattractive sexually.

Contrary to popular opinion, you do not choose to love. The truth is that Love grows on you towards someone with time, hence why i find it annoying wen guys and ladies talk rubbish by saying they love each other or wen they say there is love at first sight. That is bullshit.

You can't love someone immediately.

Love takes time to grow.
Once love for the person develops it would always be there, even if u no longer attracted to them sexually.

It is sexual attraction and lust that fades if its not nurtured.

People let us understand that it is fundamentally wrong for us to say that love fades. This is because[i] a very good example is the love between a father and a child[/i]. It never fades irrespective of circumstances and issues. Hence why they say love coverth all sins (if it fades as people wrongly assume then it means the sins would one day become exposed). Hence why they say blood is thicker than water. This is because the fundamental love between the father towards the child and the child towards the father transcends issues of lust or attraction or circumstance.

A mother would still love her child even if such a child was convicted for murder. that is love

There is nothing like motherly love.
There is nothing like fatherly love.
There is nothing like Man and Wife love.

The love [/b]is basically the same in all cases , the only difference is how it is expressed (e.g. it is expressed in the form of sex between the man and the woman as a result of the presence of sexual attraction and lust, thus why u find that even though some old couples no longer have sex wtih each other yet they completely love each other, that simple shows u that though the sex and lust might have faded, yet the love still remains).

Hence in final submission,
[b]
TRUE LOVE DOES NOT FADE.

@topic

I would rather build because:

- I have some basic items like Solar Energy Panels as roofing sheets, Cavity Water Technology Heater, Security Systems, Architerutral tastes, Building solidity and safety that i need to gaurantee and pre-design into the house. But which would end up costing more if i have to redesign an alread built house.

- Hence starting my own from scratch is the cheapest ooption.

- I would never build a house in USA or UK for the simple reason that its cheaper and a better long term investement to have a house back home in nigeria.

- The principle of house/land ownership is sleazy to say the least wen it comes to western societies.

@wetin do yam and beans, is it not food

na wa for nigerians and butter mentality, always pretending as if they do not even urinate.

FL Gators:
This Too Shall Pass- Yolanda Adams


[I'm addicted]

@gators
wats the big deal about the song sef.

@toyosi
i did not say anything o

finally some people are waking up.



I have never found Naomi to be even close to beautiful, in my book Naomi is just average.

TOYOSI20:
WORD!!!!

Funny how his (MJ’s) body hasn’t even been laid to rest yet and all these hidden truths are coming to light . . .

personally I believe there’s still so much that will be revealed . . .it truly is sad!!

RIP Michael!!, .

@toyosi

How u dey, longtime.

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@topic

- DNA Testing should be done for the children to ascertain that Debbie is actually even their mother and micheal is even their father. Cus u might be suprised that Debbie might even just be a surrogate mother for all we know.
- Micheal's will should be followed.
- Micheal's estate should be properly managed to ensure that his family does not ruin his children.
- Micheal's children should be completely protected from the limelight so that they can grow normally.

maedan:
Is that so? Wow. but considering how everyone in his family look alike, I mean, since they have such strong genes(look at 3T; those boys have Jackson blood for sure) how come not even one of MJ's kids has even one of the trade mark Jackson features? I don't know what to believe anymore

Yes i get your point about 3T.
I was also one of the people who believe those might not be his children.
But the more i consider issues of genetics and how white genes can remain hidden in a mixed race family until the right conditions, it raised eyebrows. Take for example the family in britain that gave birth to white and black twins twice (i.e. two times) talk of serious slim chances. But the truth is that shit happens. Look at the eyes of the kids in the pictures. They have some scary resemblance to Micheal.

Also Debbie is not to be trusted considering she was able to collected money to sign away her children and then come back latter to challenge jackson again and then again start looking for trouble again now that jackson has died and left fortunes for his children.
Also if those were not jackson's children then she is guilty of selling her children to jackson in the first place and also guilty of fraud for looking for family support from jackson since those were never his children in the first place.

Truth is that only a dna testing can truly say who the father of those children are cus i do not trust Debbie herself.