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why d heck should we bother to send a txt, its not like he's a messiah or something.

moreover its he's job to look after american interest and not black interest, considering that most of his policies recently have been mostly pro-whites and pro-business. I just hope Ghana would not fall into the same trap that nigeria fell into considering that I know America is interested in the wealth coming towards Ghana as a result of the their new found through discovery of commercial oil quantities.

If only Africa would just stop corruption and start real development, enough is enough for the whites stealing african resources and still have the audacity to be condescending.

I for one would not mind if Africa restricts foreign investments to only those without african blood on their hands, cus at the end of the day the money being invested by whites is predominantly those made from years of slavery and colonialism and outright deceit.

It would be good if African blocks out the stupid arabs and whites considering that both have contributed immensely to the decimation of real africans as a race of people.

Its high time Africans start behaving like the chinese and japanese and start building up local technology, technology transfer and local market for goods and services so as to cut out western influences and control.

Americans and Europeans can be condscending at times (e.g. different videos trying to portray africans as malnourished, despite that reality is that those africans are just contented with a sedentary lifestyle and not really that they are poor, infact in certain cases the clothes being worn by the shown africans are quite more expensive than what your typical white man wears).

It is also my observation that some black europeans and black africans have no idea about history hence they allow themselves to be used by whites against their fellow blacks.

I am not suprised cause history shows that Britain and USA are the source of the problem in Zimbabwe in that the refused to fufill their own side of a bargain that was struck with zimbabweans and frankly i am not really suprised that cus some black americans are naive enough to actually side with the USA and Britain in the issue.

- for example

White Zimbabweans have fled back to Britain, leaving behind Black Zimbabweans who cannot fled back to any where cus zimbabwe is their homeland in contrast to the White Zimbabweans who easily fled to their ancestral homeland in europe.

Its high time Africa starts to determine its own destiny and stop listening to Europe cause europe has and would always continue to only look after the interest of White even if and when they use House Negroes to do their dirty works.

udezue:
Odeeee

Ewu Yoruba. Look man. Igbo land is also in SS fool so when I say SE SS i'm talking bout the larger Igbo nation not just SE. That Edo and Delta got Anioma and Igbanke Igbos.

Anioma state is what we want. Theres even talk of Igbo state carved out of Rivers state. I believe Ijaw ppl also deserve a second state.

If you want to claim Biafra then also stop yourself from plagiarising words like "Odeeee" "Weree" and co

See how irrational you are, if you are claiming Anioma and Igbanke that are more or less minorities within Edo and Delta, why not join them together to the other closer Igbo states or is state creation just another avenue to make and embezzle money on your part.

By the way Yorubas are also significant parts of the population in Kogi and Kwara, yet you do not see Yorubas making irrational noises like a few irrational Igbos are making on Nairaland.

Wayo Wayo o

Now go back to pick up the feeding bottle and behave this time around and stop being irrational for once in your life.

udezue:
South East needs an extra state and even South South needs an extra too to take of the imbalance so the South can have more voice but unfortunately the[b] South West cannot be trusted[/b]. They will most likely work with the North against the South for their own tribal interest.

Where do you want to put the extra state in the south east, don't tell me its in that small piece of igboland landmass, even the south-south deserves at least two states while the igbos deserve non. its easy for someone studying the landmass of nigeria that Edo and Delta alone are both bigger than the whole of Igboland put together yet you don't see Edo and Delta agitating for more states.

If any other region deserves more states, it has to be the South-South and not you who seem to always like to claim and play the victim card, while doing nothing for yourselfs within your own land.

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South West cannot be trusted. They will most likely work with the North against the South for their own tribal interest.

What are u people smoking to even be utterring all this kind of nonsense against the West.

Do u even know anything about history at all, before u keep spouting all this nonsense. Is it genetic for some igbos to become irrational wen they want something so badly.

History shows that Igbos are as people themselves are the ones that cannot be trusted.

June 12 - an igbo choose to be a vice-president to an Hausa man against a yoruba man, an igbo man chukwumerige was the spinner, an igbo man was the election coordinator

An irrational igbo choose to carry a national generator to celebrate a burial ceremony, igbo men have been rotating senate presidency like people change clothes.

Second republic - an igbo man choose be a vice president again in an openly rigged election against a yoruba man and infact choose to remain a vice president.

First republic, an igbo man choose to side with the Hausa's against a Yoruba man.



If it smells like a rat,
If it sounds like a rat,
If it walks like a rat,
If it eats like a rat,
If it talks like a rat
then it probably is a rat.

So do not be surpised that people in the south-south do not trust the Igbos, people in the middle-belt do not trust the Igbos, conservative and reserved Yorubas do not trust the Igbos and even your prostituting customers (the northerners) do not trust the Igbos.

Does that not tell you that it means something is fundamentally wrong somewhere and that it really means Igbos are simply not trustworthy, considering almost all the other regions simply do not trust you with anything.

In short for no sensible reason but obviously selfish reasons, Igbo men have been opposing the Yorubas since like forever, yet they still get in bed with the Hausas for financial reasons and yet still claim the hausas to be their enemy. All the same, the West still remained a fruitful financial grounds for Igbos despite all the betrayal the igbos have done against the west. All the same the West still remained as impartial and welcoming to both the Igbos and the Hausas. My experience in the East shows me the Yorubas cannot even dream of being as successful as Igbos have within yoruba land simply because the tribalistic attitude of Igbos within their own land is sure to scupper and derail any such plans by a yoruba person.

Its like some of you igbos guys on nairaland have gone completely irrational because of this Biafra issue, that you know next to nothing about facts and history that is now making you to keep spouting out nonsense at every possible opportunity.  And rather than learn to be rational you still continue to be irrational and abusive in your statements, using every post and opportunity to insult the yorubas and always claiming victim mentality.

Frankly i think its a genetic problem with some igbos, cus i was able to notice the same irrationality while i was living amongst you in the east.


if you take the time to learn about history, you would realise that:

Yoruba do not give a damn what you do or do not do, we've always kept to ourselves hence why you see little or no yoruba financial investments in igboland.
Yorubas do not give a damn if you create or do not create Biafra.
Yorubas do not give a damn if Nigeria is divided.
Yorubas do not give a damn if there is devolution in Nigeria.
Yorubas do not give a damn if there is 100% resource control.


We have always been self sustaining empire builders (go and ask your ancestors) while u were still living in clans and would always continue to be so.

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The issue of resource control is national its not an Igbo thing, Yorubas want resource control also, south-south want resource control also, south-east wants resource control also , so how is it that you brain does not seem to understand that the issue of resource control is not an opportunity to spout nonsense against the yorubas, but instead u go ahead to keep spouting out nonsense against the yoruba, yet most of your people refuse to go back home and instead choose to live and stay within yoruba areas.


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for once in your life, learn to shut up your mouth and engage your brain.

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If you are so pissed with the yorubas, then do yourself a favour and go ahead to create your own forumn considering that the ingenuity of another Yoruba guy created this Nairaland forum that you keep using and coming back to to spout your nonsense verbal garbage.

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A word is enough for a wise, cus it is said that if I continue to respond to minors like you, then people would think we are both minors from the back and forth talks. Hence i am henceforth going to restrain myself from responding to your verbal diarrhea.

WilyWily:
Thanks to all Freedom Fighters for their successful mission and to Supreme Commander Gomo for his exemplary leadership. The entire people of N-Delta adore all of you, may almighty God guide and protect all. Please Freedom Fighter don't be distract by the words of so called Elders, part of problems we are having today are caused by these Elders.
We must focus on the task, The Emancipation of our people from the hands of Devil Parasites by any means possible.
       [Supreme Commander Gomo In You We Trust].

To Northern and Western Parasites, your days of parasitic way of life are numbered.

Where does the western parasites come in, considering that:

- Westerns are to be found in Education, Medicine, Business, Engineering and Petty Trading.
- Westerns also have oil resources of their own even if it pales in comparison to the amount in the south-south.

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Yes i support full resource control by each region, however please can someone tell me what has been achieved in Delta, Cross River, Akwa Ibom, Rivers states so far with the amount of money coming in.

Lagos state is surviving and improving on less.

Eziachi:
Yoruba don't this and that and for donkey years we are wainting for best method of achieving it as you guys claims to know best but nothing is forth coming, rather, you are ever positioning yourself about who will be president and who doesn't. Give me one single example of an act or action that signifies that Yorubas are not comfortable with the Nigerian present statu quo?
If Nigeria is a true one nation, you dare not call anyone a resident or non indegine in his own country.
Why is Igbos travelling home to perform their natural traditional rites and festival that has been around for thousands of years always a problem for you guys or even sometimes a bout of a joke? I dont get it.
If I remember correctly Jesus was born in Bethlehem his parents home town because they travel back home their for census, this was even in the ancient of time. It normal and had been that people will travel to their birth place to celebrate, if such is weird culture for some of you, do you see why we are different?

Give me one single example of an act or action that signifies that Yorubas are not comfortable with the Nigerian present statu quo?

1. Restricting most of their investments to within Yorubaland.
2. Requesting yorubas from the north to come back home to the Yorubalands in Kwara, Kogi, Ondo, Oyo, Ogun, Lagos, Ekiti, Osun.

Why is Igbos travelling home to perform their natural traditional rites and festival that has been around for thousands of years always a problem for you guys or even sometimes a bout of a joke? I dont get it.

1. The mere fact that you choose to call it home tells even you that your subconscious knows your place of resident is not your ancestral home and thus you really do not have a cultural claim over the land where you have residence outside of the 5 Igbo states(Ebonyi,Abia,Imo,Enugu,Anambra), if and when nigeria becomes balkanised or breaks-up.

If Nigeria is a true one nation, you dare not call anyone a resident or non indegine in his own country.

1. Nigeria is an amalgamation of different nations not really one nation, hence there would always be strive.
2. As an Igbo resident born in Lagos state does not make you an indigene of Lagos same way a Yoruba man resident and born in Owerri does not make him an indigene of owerri.

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My observation of Igbos is that:

1. On one hand you want to claim any [b]benefits [/b]of a so called one-nigeria that you can get your hands on and yet on another hand you also want to claim the benefit of Biafra. You can't eat your cake and have it.

2. If the truth be said, Igbos are fiercely tribalistic both within their our region and most especially to non-igbos.

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The point i am making to you still remains that:

1. Yorubas could careless whether or not you go, we have little or no investements tied up in your lands, hence its actually Igbos that stand to lose in event of a violent break-up.

2. Yorubas have always been going it alone even before you guys were still living in clans.

3. Most of the mains structures in the West were constructed before the oil boom and have been sustained through vibrancy of the Yoruba group and not through any igbo contribution. It is an open secret that though igbos have been consuming public infrastructures in the west, they have really contributed little or nothing to further development of public infrastructures, hence its not like we would miss you if you leave, cus the reality is that we would not.

4. The main issue here is that Biafra should be done and achieved in a war that would not bring about War on all sides cus the truth is that all sides in a war would lose something.

5. Biafra can be achieved via dialogue of which the first step can be devolution and full resource control for all parties involved in nigeria.

I am begining to suspect that this Bialegend is actually someone else using multiple IDs to log on unto Nairaland considering that all i have been seeing him do is to insult, disrespect and abuse people up and down , quite a stereotype.

Bialegend and others it seems u can't comprehend the simple logic that:

- Yorubas do not mind if Nigeria is divided
- Yorubas do not mind if Biafra is created

The issue here is how it is done, so that it is not done at the cost of loss of lives, hence the reason for the advise to Yorubas in the north to come back home, because in the real sense of the word: Nigeria is still an amalgamation of different nations. Hence whether or not Ibos and Yorubas have businesses in the north does not mean it is there land, it only means they are resident there.

Thus it is a wise decision to come back to where there really ancestral home is in the west or tell me why do you ibos like to go back to your villages during festive periods, why not choose to call your northern cities or western cities your ancestral homes.

Do you see why we call you people lazy and imbecilic morons.

Why are ibos so brash, rude, vulgar and disrespectful, even only a few of the educated ones know how to talk in a civil manner (i noticed this even while i was amongst them). It certainly is a cultural thing.

Ap'maka biko , Is it not possible to post something without insulting people for their opinion.

[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=290236.msg4141621#msg4141621 date=1246873725]Um putting the Bible under the pillow doesn't equate worshipping neither is hanfling it with care like an egg. But placing it above all else is worshipping it. I think more and more people need to hit the dictionary and discover the meaning of the word worship in its truest form.

I beg to differ darling. While reading the Bible I fail to see where the Bible alludes to itself as being the word of God, or the final authority in all things.
Would you mind informing me of how you know the Bible is the word of God and the final authority in all things.

um ok. So how do u know st. ignatius of loyola was a mass murderer, did u witness him murder anyone?

First of all EWWWWW

second i'm all for discussing. I'm not the one going about disrespecting people, it's actually u.[/quote]1. Because Ignatius Loyola started the jesuits who are know for committing atrocities on behalf of the Roman Catholic Church.

2. I know the bible is the final authority because it is being fufilled and attested to even by the Messiah Himself. Even the Messiah Himself shows us the scriptures are the final authority by his usage of the phrase: "It is written , " to show us that "the Creator's opinion is final "

3. Oya bring that round cheek of yours, , by the way when are u going to change your picture it don taaye wen u put that profile picture there it no dey tire you.

4. i would still tell you the blunt truth even if i am flirting with you oops  sorry i forgot u are in a relationship my bad, oya give me back my kisses.

5. The bible is the final authority because it says so itself:


RNKJV
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Proverbs 30:5 Every word of Eloah is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.




KJV
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John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture can not be broken;

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John 10:34 Yahushua answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are elohim?
John 10:35 If he called them elohim, unto whom the word of יהוה came, and the scripture cannot be broken;



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Revelation of John 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, יהוה shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

Revelation of John 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, יהוה shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


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Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Abuzola:
If i compose my site and stated a pastor saying 'JESUS rape a 2 years old girl' how will you take it.

Moderator this is an insult

I would not be bothered because i know its not true,

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=292891.msg4141410#msg4141410 date=1246871678]Abuzola you must be a mad man, declaring jihad on nairaland *i'm trembling with fear* - what a bloody joker!
How many times have i been banned for speaking against islam? And each time you justify it by telling me i'm blaspheming. Have you ever been banned before inspite of all your blasphemy against christianity?
It's only muslims that are immune to ban on this islamized forum.[/quote]tell me again, dem threaten the administrator personally one time like that now, that na why the guy quickly placate them by siding with them against christians.

Abuzola:
Mr atheist your madness is weird, we do not curse God, get that right.


Moderator you are bias, if you want to lock all critic thread why doing it partial and if you want to leave it why not leave all. This is extreme partiality, u are making my blood warm

@abuzola or @abudrogba


wonders shall never end, imagine a muslim saying that the moderators are being biased, i don see many things for this nairaland.

hmm Abuzola once again take a dictionary and use it to inteprete my username and then tell me whether or not i am still an atheist chai, thank goodness for internet even "abokis for sabo don dey browse now"

Abuzola:
Point of correction its maryr and not suicide.

True, we will terrorize you if you oppress us

@abuzola

now u are being a true muslim,  

I have always said a moderate muslim is one who is not yet ready to kill, now that Azubola is ready we can all now see that he is no longer as moderate as before.

[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=290236.msg4141169#msg4141169 date=1246869252]So you worship the Bible? Where in the Bible does it say that the Bible alone shall you follow?
Since the early christians didn't have a Bible, I guess they weren't christians.

A fool shows himself, and you have certainly shown yourself a fool.

that's exactly what I meant.[/quote]- Nope i do not worship the bible, hence why i do not support or believe in all those people that put the bible under their pillow or handle it with care like an egg.

- The Bible is the written word of the Creator, hence I am obliged to believe it as the final authority in all things.

- I would rather believe and obey the Creator rather than trust the created beings (like @Lady, @Pope, @Ignatius Loyola the mass murderer etc)

- I would still you even if u choose to insult me, cus i am here to discuss not insult.

Abuzola:
Moderator, thighing is an insult to islam, how are we sure that it wasn't anti islam that make up the whole thing, no hadith, no Quran simply false allegation. This is an insult to the whole muslim community and i advice to do something before the world get to know what nairaland compose of.


Is my thread not better off than it ? I quote verses from the bible.


Have a nice day

You really are as mad as they come,

Don't worry you are not the first muslim to try to threathen nairaland with violence for exposing the truth about mohammed.

why not make it 100000 errors instead maybe that:

would make you feel better and justified that Allah is an idol, Mohammed is a liar and peadophile, Allah has 3 daugthers according to the Islamic Quran Satanic verses.

ikeyman00:
no2athesim

now listen and listen atentively, let me clearify this for yall 419 tribe that love to riddle in hates against the igbo

When we are talkin about nigeria, we are talkin about our country that belongs to all of us, in other words as long as u are a nigerian citizen u are entitled to reside in any part of the country, so why would anyone residin in lagos or abuja or north be seen as a foreigner?

for how long would yall continue to fool urselves? yall cant stand the fact that the igbo have made it through the concrete surface. The trade buizness that used to riddle all of sudden turn out to be envy to nigerians. Never mind how many ghana must go bags gone unaccounted from stolen oil money

lets not forget that through one nigeria was lagos and abuja saw the day of light

igbo too much self, can u admit that !!! stop the hate if u can afford

dammmmmit

ikeyman:

First and foremost, please note that i am not your enemy and i am not an enemy of the Igbos, infact i support devolution or splitting of the country, however what i do not support is blatant lies and falsehoods against Yorubas by Igbos, despite that historical records shows that Igbos have more to thank the Yorubas for, despite many cases of backstabing of the Yorubas by the opportunistic characters of ibos in general.



- 419 was popularised by Igbos and sustained by them before others got sucked into it. Go to Abiriba in Abia State, it is built on fraudulently obtained money either by rituals or financial fraud.

- Ibos popularised the fraud of Forwarding and Exporting.

- Go ahead and tell someone who is ignorant about Ibos all that you are saying, I have lived amongst Ibos, observed their behaviour towards other ibos and non-ibos and culture and the sad truth is that it leaves much to be desired.

Hence the reason why i am worried that: Biafra might not be successful if Igbos do not get their acts together fast.

By the way, no one is jealous of Igbos stop deceiving yourself, i would rather be a middle class than be an upper class built on fraud, mafia like behaviour, rituals and extortion.

- Its is blatant deceit to on one hand want to claim entitlement of being a nigerian and then on the other hand also want to claim entitlement of igbos being victimised.

- Mafia like behaviour, irrationality and fraud as not hallmarks of a successful civilisation.

- While Igbos were still going around in Animal Skins , Yorubas were building kingdoms and empires and wearing proper clothes, so please stop your bickering about how igbos are being victimised. nobody is victimising you except yourselves.

- No one is envying Igbos and their trade business cus its an open secret that most igbo traders are fraudulent, and i for one do not envy corruption in any form or nature.

- The fact that Yoruba welcomed you to Lagos, allowed you to flourish in areas like Alaba without victimising you like the northerners usually do is reason enough for igbos to at least use their thinking faculties to realise that Yorubas are not enemies of progress, yorubas are not their enemies, infact Yoruba have been tolerant of a lot of bullshit from Igbos to a fault.

Abuzola:
This is yet the continuation of our subjection to bias and partiality.
I started a thread with gen2genius yesterday, all were locked what happened to his thread, only few that did not have genuine proof were locked leaving the others therefore supporting him hand in hand,


I advice you not to let the crossworshipper suppress islam, know that you have an obligation for islam. Am doing my own what part are you doing, the first thing you will be asked in the grave apart of shahadah and salat will be what have u done to make islam superior.


Is up to you. For me am not sitting down but will try all i can do to make islam superior on this forum  even if it will go to the extent of jihad.

Masalam

- There goes the violent nature of muslims again, its either they have their way or kill anyone who dares to oppose them.

- what does superiority have to do with salvation.

- no one is discussing with you whether or not islam is superior, we are talking about whether or not Islam is true or not , grow up, stop deceiving yourself and make sure u do not get that muslim hajia pregnant.

- is it not abnormal that at your age you are already starting to consider killing people via jihad just because your views are not accepted on nairaland, shior wonders shall never end.

bilymuse:
SapeleGuy
There is a tribal colouration of most sector and commerce:

Yoruba -  banks , insurance , taxi driver , ,
Tiv / Igala / Idoma  -  police, army , ,
Ijaw - fishing, ,
Hausa -  forex (black market), cattle rearing, , ,

Despite the tribal concentration of people in various commercial field,  nobody is preventing people from other tribe free entry and competition.

All the main markets ( Ariaria, Onitsha, ,) in Igbo lands are completely dominated by Igbos. There is no single non Igbo who own a store in Ariaria or Onitsha market. Instead non Igbos are forced to trade in makeshift roadside gathering which the Igbos conveniently  labelled as market.

The Igbos are not allowing other Nigerians free entry into their market, while at the same time they come and dominate your own market . This is unacceptable and goes against the spirit of free trade.

Alaba market is a very good example of this, and that is exactly why i can't seem to understand wat else the Igbos want. Yorubas have turned a blind eye to many insults and obvious cheating and discrimination being done to Yoruba indigenes by Igbos even on yorubaland. Even the Lagos State goes as far as appointing Igbos into goverment (something that's not common even amongst igbos themselves). I fear to say from my experience in Igboland that it seems Igbos generally have character that makes them unsatisfied until they completely control and own something whether or not they have the morals to do so or not does not seem to factor into the equation.

As far as i am concerned the yorubas are already bending over backwards to please Igbos that sojourn in yorubaland, yet it can't be said that yorubas enjoy the same priviledges in igboland, i.e. off course if you find yorubas there amongst them.

One thing i have noticed with igbos is they mistake quietness, reservedness and being fair as a sign of weakness, and thus would not mind taking advantage of anyone showing such traits even if its not to their advantage in the long term to do so (e.g. tales of difficult igbo tenants in yoruba houses in the west) otherwise i don't understand why they keep seeing Yorubas as enemies even though history shows that Yorubas have always gone out of their way to please them and be the best possible landlord they can possibly be on the circumstance.

Imagine someone saying yesterday that he resigned and resented yorubas because of the problem and victimisation as a result of not wanting to prostrate (how childish and silly does that sound)

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By the way you can add the following to your list:

Yoruba -  banks , insurance , taxi driver , teachers, nurses, doctors, engineers, university lecturers, commercial farmers
Tiv / Igala / Idoma  -  police, army , ,
Ijaw - fishing, ,
Hausa -  forex (black market), cattle rearing, , ,

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What i keep telling Igbos on this forum is that:

Yorubas are not your enemy, infact they have been the best friends you have had. Hence the reason you have thrived and succeeded amongst them without fear or violence.

Yorubas have always had a sustainable economy before, during and after the oil boom.

Yorubas are mostly the ones that remain in their regions the most out of the Hausas and Igbos, hence do not feel angered by prejudice against them either in the north or east because they understand they are in a foreign land.