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[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=215255.msg3958058#msg3958058 date=1243857013]@topeokunol,

   ~ pilgrim.1 is not a pastor's wife who seeks your tithes[/quote]LMAO another person wants to marry you off to a pastor

@pilgrim1 it looks like @segyemaro wants to do a sex change for you

ThiefOfHearts:
Donnie Darko isnt horror

Yes it is


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wqVHjK2bQs

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[quote author=Tùdor link=topic=277635.msg3956321#msg3956321 date=1243816289]Paul a black man?. . . . .
Jesus was also black! Remember they said to him, ''Art thou not that NIGERIAN, come to perpetuate 419 in the land of caesar?''[/quote]@tudor i don't know whether or not you believe in the bible, but[b] if you do then read on[/b], but[b] if you do not then don't bother to read on[/b] because whether or not Paul was black or the Messiah was not white should not make any difference to you.

@tudor, i don't know you enough to determine whether or not you statement is meant as a joke or scorn or ridicule, nevertheless rather than add fuel to a cycle of insults and ridicule, I would instead answer your implied question with the following points, statements and bible verses.


First and foremost, please note that I deal with what the bible says and not what the media teaches (majority does not rule when it comes to biblical truths) , so the questions becomes: Was the Messiah a Caucasian or Negroid or Mongoloid. Even an honest Caucasian would gladly tell you that the Messiah was certainly not white.

Negroids - black skin and black features
Caucasians - white skin and european features
Mongoloids - Chinese like features



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Acts 21:38        (About Paul's skin colour/ race similarity)
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Acts 21:37 And as Paul was to be led into the castle, he said unto the chief captain, May I speak unto thee? Who said, Canst thou speak Greek?
Acts 21:38 Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?
Acts 21:39 But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.
Acts 21:40 And when he had given him license, Paul stood on the stairs, and beckoned with the hand unto the people. And when there was made a great silence, he spake unto them in the Hebrew tongue, saying,


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Amos 9:7          (About Isrealites skin colour)

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Amos 9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith יהוה. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir?

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Exodus 4: 6-7   (About Moses skin colour)

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Exodus 4:5 That they may believe that יהוה Elohim of their fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee.
Exodus 4:6 And יהוה said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow.
Exodus 4:7 And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his other flesh.


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Numbers 12:10 (About Miriam skin colour)

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Numbers 12:9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed.
Numbers 12:10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and[b] Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.[/b]
Numbers 12:11 And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned.
Numbers 12:12[b] Let her not be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he cometh out of his mother's womb[/b].
Numbers 12:13 And[b] Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech thee[/b].
Numbers 12:14 ¶ And the LORD said unto Moses, If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be ashamed seven days? let her be shut out from the camp seven days, and after that let her be received in again.
Numbers 12:15 And Miriam was shut out from the camp seven days: and the people journeyed not till Miriam was brought in again.
Numbers 12:16 And afterward the people removed from Hazeroth, and pitched in the wilderness of Paran.


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Jeremiah 13:23 (About the peculiar skin color of the Ethiopians)

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Jeremiah 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.



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1. Was the Messiah a White skinned man (i.e. White man) or a Black skinned man (i.e. Black Man)
2. Was Paul a White skinned man (White man) or a Black skinned man (i.e. Black Man)
3. Was King Herod an Isrealite or an Edomite.
4. Was Moses a White skinned man (i.e. White man) or a Black skinned man (i.e. Black Man)
5. Was Miriam sister of Moses White skinned woman (i.e. White woman) or a Black skinned woman (i.e. Black woman)


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Yes Salvation has nothing to do with skin colour of Paul or Moses or the Messiah, nevertheless a true bible believer is required to say the truth all times whether or not the truth is popular or not. The fact that most people are uncomfortable discussing the topic is enough to tell you that something is terribly wrong somewhere.

KAG:
Tesla may or may not have been the greatest scientist ever. That's debatable. He was a very brilliant man, though. I don't think there's a big conspiracy against the Tesla name and his invention - at least, not presently; not since the waned influence of Edison.

Anyway, Einstein has been rightly lauded for his work. He got an amount of things wrong, but several of the things he got right were breathtaking. Which brings me to your claim. In what did Tesla show Einstein wrong?

Yes KAG how u dey, i missed you too .

In terms of why Tesla is the greatest, do yourself a favour and find out about the "Dynamic Theory of Gravity". And how it does away with some of the things that Einstein postulated. Also find out about Zero Point energy. Wireless transmission of electricity, something Tesla had perfected but which we are still grappling with. Attempts to try and duplicate what Tesla had already done are considered issues of national security by developed nations. An example of attempt at duplication of the wonderful things Tesla has done is the known as the Haarp Project (look it up )

Tesla was so fucking brilliant that we still do not understand most of what he was talking about till today, only a few people have the slightest idea how to replicate things that he built and made to work during his lifetime.

Tesla was close to providing a free source of energy for everybody to use, until the tycoons like Morgan Stanley basically stopped him by denying him funding and access to funding.

Einstein's wife (Mileva Maric Einstein) was extremely brilliant, infact she co-authored an original manuscript, but not really popularly acknowledged. Why else did you think Einstein gave her the noble prize money. Hence technically speaking the theory that Einstein was credited for was not entirely done by him.

Whereas in comparison and the basic mind-boungling implication of his work, Tesla was a solo worker and a genius of geniuses. Einstein focused solely on Theoretical Science and was very good in it. Nevertheless Tesla focused on both Theoretical Science and Inventions Science and was a genius at both.

Just like you KAG, i also used to think that Einstein was the greatest, until i did a little bit of research into their history and work and life.

TOH and Oyinda, wats with u ladies and horror film (you too are really watching some weird shit).

Horror films, hell no i don't bother wasting my time with them.

The film has to stimulate my brain, horror films do not fall into that category.

Science fiction - Absolutely yes
Comedy - Yes
Thrillers - Yes
Romance - No
True Story Dramas - Maybe (a beautiful mind, Donnie Brasco,)
Animations - Yes

@topic


Monsters and Aliens - Last one
Terminator Salvation - 2nd to the last
Star Trek - 3rd to the last
Knowing - 4th to the last

Krayola:
Those questions you asked are meaningless.  I'm not here to follow you down whatever path u wish to tread

As far as proof goes, no one can prove anything that happened 2000 years ago. We can't even prove stuff that happened 500 years ago, so asking people to prove where the God of the Bible is or isn't is just foolishness.

What we can debate if we really want to get anywhere is stuff that we can argue and present evidence for, i'm not talking about a quote from the bible, i'm talking about information that has been gathered by people who study this stuff for a living. . .  historians, archeologists, bible scholars, etc. We can debate the Bible for instance, why there are different accounts of the same events, why certain things might suggest one thing but mean another, etc. but when we spend all this time engaging in such pointless discussion "prove God exists", "prove God does not exist", that people have been unable to do for ever, what are we really trying to achieve?

Like I said this is just a place where people gather to throw rocks at each other. . .

The questions that i asked are fundamental to any potential discussion. Hence since you consider them to be meaningless, then it means we can't have a meaningful questions and answer session, once you start to consider certain questions to be off limit.

I am science inclined hence i know that[b] no[/b] question is meaningless, cus the best scientific discoveries often come from asking the most simple and sometimes ridiculously obvious questions. So since you think my questions are meaningless, there is no point going forward with this discussions.

You would have noticed now that i prefer to ask and answer questions in a straight forward and clear manner.

So its good talking with you, have a good day.

mazaje:
very sorry pls. . . i  initially did not understand the point you were trying to make now i do. . .

Apology accepted,

Likewise I also apologise to you for overreacting.

mazaje mazaje haba it does not profit you anything to be sly, mischevious and downright devious. Take your time and put away your pride enough to notice that after you asked me to prove my statement that Paul was a black man (by virtue of being called an Egyptian during his him thousand of years ago), that:


I never said Paul was an Egyptian.

I said the Romans were the ones who called Him an Egyptian

Hence it is clear to anyone who understands the use of english, that it means that Paul was mistaken for an Egyptian by the romans

Hence it is also clear to anyone who understands the use of english that it means that Paul looked like a typical Egyptian of his time and age, thousands of years ago during the time of the Romans (i.e. it is clear to see that Paul was mistaken for a black man)


@mazaje you are starting to disappoint me ( you should be above this kind of silly/childish word play), does it mean that you are willing to stoop low to a level of misrepresenting a very clear statement just to try and prove that you were right or try to cover up your own mistake of insinuating that i was initially wrong when infact i was actually correct with evidence.

You asked for a bible reference to back up my statement (about Paul being a black skinned man), i gave you a bible reference to back up my statement, yet you go on about saying something completely irrelevant and out of context.

For your information, Paul himself replied to the mistake made by the Romans by identifying himself as a Jew of Tarsus:

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Acts 21:37 And as Paul was to be led into the castle, he said unto the chief captain, May I speak unto thee? Who said, Canst thou speak Greek?  

Acts 21:38 Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?  

Acts 21:39 But[b] Paul said[/b], I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.

@mazaje, I must confess that i completely lost respect for you, as this your singular act of trying to play on words and wrongly/falsely insinuate that i said or implied something (which i clearly did not) shows that you are obviously not someone that can be trusted to engage in a truthful intellectual discussion.

I am sorry to say, but it seems KAG is a more honourable atheist compared to you, at least KAG tends to publicly admit when he is wrong about something. You on the other hand just displayed a characteristics of being dishonourable enough to deceptively dodge having to accept and admit that something is actually true by twisting and misrepresenting what was actually said.

It really very sad, that people on NL would stoop this low.

Krayola:
If you actually READ my post, you will see that is exactly what i said. But i clarified what u refuse to acknowledge,  that the early Christians were Jewish people, and they were turned in by the Jewish authorities. Do your research. . . I have.

This is a waste of time. . . you don`t want to look critically at your own faith. . . which is why I said people that only know about their own religion know nothing about religion. When you start to develop a real thirst for truth, you will. 

I`m leaving to go and drink alcohol, smoke some marijuana, and If i`m lucky fornicate. holla @ ur boy!!   

1. So can u kindly answer the questions that i have asked instead of dodging them.

2. You clearly are either new to this forum or know next to nothing about me, otherwise you would know that I am not a person that is scared of tackling taboos even in my own faith, in science and in islam. Do yourself a favour and go through my profile to crosscheck for yourself my past posts so that you would get a better and clearer picture of what i am about. Even mazaje remembers me from my past post about the real isrealites and the fake ones (the ursurpers), hence the reason why he asked me to proof my statement when i said Paul was actually a black skinned person (how black his skin was is however something i don't know cus its not in the bible and hence i don't claim to know it).

3. My username was choosen for a reason, the reason is that i have tasted a little bit of life and science to know enough that your insinuation about knowing the real truth is mere bollocks.

If you desire to know or already know the real truth then it should not take you long to answer the simply questions that i have asked and tabulated for you. At least don't you realise that you could actually get to teach me something by merely answering my questions. Instead you have decided to turn tail and scupper off.

mazaje:
can you pls provide the bible references. . . . egyptian?. . . . i have never heard that one before.

@mazaje

Here you have a Roman person addressing Paul ( it is easy to see that Paul was mistaken for an Egyptian despite that he is clearly not an Egyptian).

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‪Acts 21:38
Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand men that were murderers?


So @mazaje now you have heard about it.

Krayola:
. . . the early christians were mostly Jewish. . . They were living in the diaspora and were the most responsive audience right from the start. They are not classified as Jews because they are called early Christians . . . But they were of Jewish origin, and the jewish authorities turned them in ASAP out of fear that they would keep converting more.

The "Jews" (religion) were recognized and allowed to practice their faith in Roman territory. . . The early Christians were a threat, and were considered "sellouts". When you guys use the word "Jews" you do it without recognizing that it describes a people, and not just a belief system. The claim that Jews as a people refused Jesus is misguided. The jewish faith refused Jesus.

Stop trying to oversimplify something that is complicated. . . you hide the truth from urselves

Krayola you are starting to box yourself into a corner. Stop stating things that you don't know for certainty. It would help your ego to make sure you ascertain something 100% before you claim it is true.
Early Church was persecuted in Rome (not the early Jews) so please stop mixing up history. People were persecuted for being part of the early church and not for being part of the early jews.  You are mixing up the two.

Once again let us try to be straight forward without our questions and answers:

1. What do you mean by Jewish.
2. Is there a difference between being a Jew and being Jewish.
3. Is a person a Jew by religion or by birth
4. Once again what is the difference between a Jew and a Jewish person.
5. What is the difference between a Jew and an Isrealite.
6. Is an Isreali the same thing as an Isrealite.
7. Was Moses a Jew.
8. Was Paul a Jew.
9. Was the Messiah a Jew.
9. Was King Herod a Jew.

Krayola:
That is the problem with Christianity as practiced by most. . . ALL or NOTHING. . . No room for common sense

Truth is not open to compromise.

its either Krayola is truthful or Krayola is not. Krayola cannot be both at the same time.

mazaje:
@ No2Atheism

I thought you once said that paul was a black person?. . . . .

Yes i did and i still stand by it, because there are biblical references to back it up.

Romans were white, yet they identified Paul as an Egyptian (off which we understand at that time that Egypt was still basically a black man's nation as it is yet to be invaded by the Arabs).

[quote author=pilgrim.1 link=topic=274447.msg3953945#msg3953945 date=1243757877]I think KAG makes the same sense that several people have tried to express in this thread. I especially liked this caution:[/quote]Exactly,

@Kag, don't worry that is how it all starts. It all starts when u start to question the official party line. I would not be suprised if your fellow Evolutionists actually start to turn on you for daring to questions the "ever missing" missing link discovery.

Men is so good to think outside of the box and scrutinise all supposed truths,


For example of how easy it is to be brainwashed via the official party line, I would use an example about Nikola Tesla.

I am a scientist by nature and an engineer by study, yet it took a while to realise that:

Nikola Tesla was the greatest scientist ever, yet most people do not even hear about him. Nikola Tesla was so bloody good that he made Albert Einstein and Thomas Edison look like a dullards.
Nikola Tesla was so bloody good that most of his research have been termed state secrets by some developed countries like USA and Russia.
The alarming part is the Nikola Tesla actually showed that Albert Einstein was wrong via is own (Nikola Tesla's) theory.


I only came to know about him when i started to search for the truth behind the news, the Media has simply brainwashed everybody into thinking that Albert Einstein was the best thing since Sliced Bread.

Krayola:
Like I said, your knowledge of this stuff is very superficial. the Jews believe in a Messiah. Just not Jesus. They were looking for a political messiah to rescue them from the Romans which is why they refused Jesus.

Not all Jews rejected Jesus. The Earliest `christians`, Jesus movements as they are generally called, were made up of Jews. . .  This was before Paul. They went around preaching about the saviour and became scornful when people refused to listen. . .  they then started to develop their own apocalyptic message, about punishment, the damnation of those that did not accept, etc etc. their sayings were compiled, with their stories of Jesus, and is used as a source in Matthew and Luke. . .  


The Bible is a propaganda tool. . .  on so many levels.

They were looking for a political messiah to rescue them from the Romans which is why they refused Jesus.

you are starting to amaze me, with your wonderful bible interpretation. So good to see you pick and choose what you wish to tell us the bible is saying.

Not all Jews rejected Jesus. The Earliest `christians`, Jesus movements as they are generally called, were made up of Jews

Once again who are the Jews, and how did you get the information about the early christians before Paul (please don't tell me you got that from the bible again )

They went around preaching about the saviour and became scornful when people refused to listen. . . they then started to develop their own apocalyptic message, about punishment, the damnation of those that did not accept, etc etc. their sayings were compiled, with their stories of Jesus, and is used as a source in Matthew and Luke. . .

Bible is a propaganda tool

Propaganda by who and to who

@Krayola

you are contradicting yourself, you cannot claim to ridicule the bible and still quote events in it as facts. Its either everything in it is true or all of it is true. Hence you can't use what the Jews believe as a basis of your argument cus the same Jews you are using as a basis of your argument actually believe the Torah (which is contained in the bible).

By the way,

1. Who are the Jews

2. Was Moses a Jew.

3. Was the Messiah a Jew.

4. Was Paul a Jew.

5. Was King Herod a Jew.

6. If your disbelief in a Creator, then can you kindly tell me (without using words like could, might, may, they say, it is said):

- how everything began
- When it began
- Why it began
- Which came first between living things and non-living things.

KAG:
On Ida, I'd advice people to exercise caution in accepting what has essentially been a circus act as opposed to the science of taxonomy, etc. The claims that Ida is representational of human ancestry appear to be greatly exagerrated at best. Further, always be wary of discoveries that try to bypass or influence the peer-review process by not only publishing its wonky paper after sensationalising its discovery in the press, but also finally realeasing it in a subpar journal. That the guys behind Ida should act like Creationists in their dealing with the discovery should certainly set off alarm bells. Just my thoughts so far.

KAG is gradually starting to see the light and starting to scrutinise official party lines.

ifele:
Jesus was not black. He was not white either. He was an Israelite. A descendant of David.

You lying racist yu are refuted.

1. Yes i agree the Messiah was not white (I am 100% sure of that) cus the Romans who themselves are not even that white compared to the barbarians ( who were the ancestors of most present day English, Celts, Germans, Scandanavians - norway, finland, sweden etc) still considered one of the isrealite (Apostle Paul) to be a non-white person by calling him an "Egyptian".

Yes don't be suprised that a significant number of Europeans today actually descended from the people known as the Barbarians during the time of the Romans

2. What was the colour of the Egyptians at that point in History, were the Egyptians still black like their grandfathers or had they intermarried so much that they now looked like a Mulattoo as of that time.


3. @Ifele, were the ancient isrealites white or black or both.


4. @Ifele, are the present people in the State of Isreal, the same people as the descendants of the original biblical Isrealites.

okay

[quote author=~Sissy~ link=topic=260045.msg3953414#msg3953414 date=1243740887]i always think guys that wear skinny jeans are closet gays

yea, pardon my ignorant but that's what i think[/quote]Skinny Jeans rock, closet gays my ass,

It took me time to realise that skinny where the best fit for me, now all of a sudden you ladies are associating it with being jay.

Whether u like am or not , skin jeans still rock.

FL Gators ,  there is this friend of DayoKanu who seems to want to talk to you now. Should i tell him to wait for you.

Skinny Jeans rule, if you don't like it you can report me to United Nations then.

Information overload would not allow one to mention each and every problem in Africa either caused by US or Europe or Asia.

Nevertheless that does not mean that no information should now be released.

Those that know about atrocities of China should go ahead and post it rather than sit down in front of the chair acting holier than thou and pointing accusing fingers of incompetence.

Guys yes you might disagree with the charater of Horus, nevertheless do not use that as a blanket ban on everything he says.

Yes i also disagree with him on the issue of faith, however it does not mean that everything he says is wrong.

1. A significant number of Native Americans were wiped out by Europeans when they were colonising North and South America and its resources.

2. I bet most people do not even realise that there were Black Indigenous people in the American continent long time before the start of slavery. Hence not all black people in America are africans or slave descendants (despite what the Eurocentric media would want you to believe that)

3. To the person who says Africom does not have enough soldiers, please have you ever heard of something called the Trojan horse and trickling water drops making a mighty ocean. Africom does not need to deploy all soldiers needed, all they need to do is initially get a foothold in Africa, once they do that, then it becomes easy to gradually increase the number of troops.
- Do you sincerely think America would withdraw its forces from Africa if they have something to benefit militarily and financially
- Do you think US was in Kuwait, Iraq and Afganistan because of morals or right wrong or because of money and control.
US policies are dictated by money and greed simple and straight forward.

Africom would not deploy in one day, they would gradually deploy and spread out to areas with natural resources.

Have you asked yourself why US never interfered in Liberia, Rwanda during their wars (simple, it was because they felt that they had nothing to gain there financially).

4. Once Africom starts there is no stopping them, cus the Europeans controlling the US, controlling Obama and controlling the world don't mind killing people to get at their resources. Or maybe you can tell me exactly what Iraq has to do with 911 and why US is more interested in their oil than their stability (actually a less stable iraq is good for business.)

5. Africom is not in Africa's interest, hence it should never be allowed in Africa.
No European would ever allow any foreign country to dominate and control their country and their resources on their behalf, hence why must Africa allow the same.

6. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nucleared bombed despite that Japan had already surrendered, hence please all those of you insulting Horus because what he is saying sounds like conspiracy should please sit down study history and current events before going ahead to insult him for at least speaking the truth on this occassion.

okay Lovely Miss Oyinda, assuming the sweet Oyindamola is not already your name can i have your name even as i look forward to us going to Taihiti together.

Please practise what you preach and respond.

davidylan:
lol i get you but there is a way to get a horse to eat sugar from your hands.

who is d horse

https://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Music/music-088.gif  

You are the reason why i sing this song, my heart is on fire, you are the reason why i sing this song.

Why did it took you so long i don't know, ---365 days to show---, i think its time for me to let go.
Just let it off your chest and i would gladly do the rest.

You are the reason why i sing this song, my heart is on fire, you are the reason why i sing this song.

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Let me be the one to hold your hands, let me be the one to wipe your tears, I wanna be the friend when you are in need.

Baby i need you, Baby I love you, Baby i need you ---  we'll be together for ever --- Baby i need you, Baby I love you, Baby i need youhttps://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Music/music-088.gif

1st verse: "you will be the She - ee, i'll be He - ee, we'll be together for ever".

2nd verse: "I'll be ur lover, Yu'll have my baby, we'll share together and help each other".

FL Gators:
Dayo, you're like a bro to me. So I don't expect my unclothedness to have an impact on ya. So e no matter, abi?

Somebody dey look for trouble, no be my mouth dem go hear say Dayo go make you miss ur period (sorry i mean schedule ),

FL Gators:
Rotlmao, boost what rep? Having strangers want to get to stalk know you some more?
you and the word sweetdreams sha.

One cannot be too careful now, cus i don't want to be responsible for any disappointment now  

FL Gators:
I know when am being toasted, and[b] its always a pleasure to say no[/b].

See pride,

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@oyinda. now worry i just dey joke with you, FL Gators is my one and only supplier of bitty so i would not bite you, i am not greedy.

[quote author=oyinda. link=topic=278038.msg3953174#msg3953174 date=1243734698]this is the type of guys the topic is referring to. Read the title of the thread jeez
guys who walk up to girls and start toasting right away.[/quote]No no no you didn't , FL Gators u better warn her, if she puts finger in my mouth i would bite o,