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Art, Graphics & VideoRe: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Nothingserious: 8:01am On Oct 28, 2021
Mhimi007:
the pronunciation is quite different let me try explaining, it is quite tricky to explain in writing okay 'okhokho' is pronounced as 'hor-kor-kor' in Bini-Esan dialet as against 'or-ku-kor' of the igbos, I'm an Esan-Ibo person so I think I have slight ideas about this...hope I tried
Anyhow we look at it, the picture is that of Fowl which is Okuko in Igbo language.

So why the similarities?
Art, Graphics & VideoRe: The Ọkhọkhọ: Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact by Nothingserious: 7:58am On Oct 28, 2021
EdoDefence:
Cambridge's Jesus College Returns Benin Artefact, The Ọkhọkhọ

Jesus College, Cambridge has returned a looted artefact, The Ọkhọkhọ to the palace of the Oba of Benin, where it was stolen in 1897 and been returned to the Palace of the Ọba of Benin.

Credit: Twitter | shailafennel, JesusCollegeCam

Is this not Okuko ( fowl, cockerel) in Igbo language?

Bini copying Igbo or Igbo copying Bini.
Which is it really?
https://www.facebook.com/206270189411151/posts/4824157464289044/
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Leaving Christianity :-) by Nothingserious: 8:43pm On Oct 27, 2021
JideJordan:
Hello guys, so I've been lurking around this section for a few weeks now. I've got a lot of questions on my mind and I am not getting satisfactory answers.
Does God exist? I don't know. At this point, I can't keep deceiving myself. I don't think I can call myself a Christian any more because I am starting to doubt a lot of things. If you are

a Christian/believer, I have nothing against you, neither I'm I here to "deconvert" you or something.

Anyways, I just wanted to post this here, because I don't have anyone to talk to at the moment. Have a nice evening.
https://www.publicchristianity.org/the-role-of-doubt-in-a-life-of-faith/

TRANSCRIPT
SIMON SMART: To what extent does some doubt play a role in a life of committed faith?

WILLIAM LANE CRAIG: I think that traditionally Christians theologians and ordinary believers have understood that doubt actually is part of the life of faith. Very often great saints of God have gone through what they call ‘the dark valley’, in which God may not seem real to them and they trust in God to get them through that dark valley and bring them out on the other side. And this is not inimical to faith, or contrary to faith, this is a part of the life of faith. The trust in God just as Job in the Old Testament trusted in God as he went through terrible suffering and loss. And this isn’t a blind or irrational faith – on the contrary, in those moments where we go through the dark valley it can be helpful to remember all of the good reasons and evidence for God’s existence, that our faith is not based just on emotions, but it’s based upon the truth, and therefore we can trust God to help get us through those difficult times.
Christianity EtcRe: I Am Leaving Christianity :-) by Nothingserious: 8:32pm On Oct 27, 2021
JideJordan:
Hello guys, so I've been lurking around this section for a few weeks now. I've got a lot of questions on my mind and I am not getting satisfactory answers.
Does God exist? I don't know. At this point, I can't keep deceiving myself. I don't think I can call myself a Christian any more because I am starting to doubt a lot of things. If you are a Christian/believer, I have nothing against you, neither I'm I here to "deconvert" you or something.

Anyways, I just wanted to post this here, because I don't have anyone to talk to at the moment. Have a nice evening.
https://www.reasonablefaith.org/videos/interviews-panels/dealing-with-doubt


A short interview with Dr. William Lane Craig, a leading Christian philosopher, about how college students should respond when they wrestle with doubts about the faith.

Transcript

Interviewer: Dr. Craig, could you please introduce yourself?

Dr. Craig: Yes, I’m William Lane Craig. I’m a Research Professor at Talbot School of Theology, and I’m a Christian philosopher and theologian.

Interviewer: It’s the experience of many Christian students who attend university that they find their faith troubled, and they begin to have doubts.

Dr. Craig: Sure.

Interviewer: What advice would you give to someone who is experiencing serious doubts?

Dr. Craig: Well, there’s a number of things, I think, that I would say about that. First of all, I think that I would tell them that they need to understand the proper relationship between faith and reason. And my view here is that the way in which I know Christianity is true is first and foremost on the basis of the witness of the Holy Spirit in my heart, and that this gives me a self-authenticating means of knowing that Christianity is true wholly apart from the evidence. And therefore, if in some historically contingent circumstances the evidence that I have available to me should turn against Christianity, I don’t think that that controverts the witness of the Holy Spirit.

In such a situation, I should regard that as simply a result of the contingent circumstances that I’m in, and that if I were to pursue this with due diligence and with time, I would discover that, in fact, the evidence—if I could get the correct picture—would support exactly what the witness of the Holy Spirit tells me. So, I think that it’s very important to get the relationship between faith and reason right. Otherwise, what that means is that our faith is dependent upon the shifting sands of evidence and argument, which change from person to person, place to place, and generation to generation. Whereas, the Holy Spirit and his testimony gives every generation and every person immediate access to a knowledge of God and the truth of Christianity that’s independent of the shifting sands of time and place and person and historical contingency.

The second thing I think I would say follows from that—what this means is that doubt is never simply an intellectual problem. There is always a spiritual dimension to doubt as well. There is an enemy of your souls, Satan, who hates you intensely, and who is bent on your destruction, and who will do everything in his power to see that your faith is destroyed. And therefore, when we have these intellectual doubts and problems, we should never look at them as something that is spiritually neutral, or divorce them from the spiritual conflict that we’re involved in. Rather, we need to take these doubts to God in prayer, to admit them honestly, to talk to our Christian friends about them, to not stuff them or hide them. We need to deal with them openly and honestly and talk to people about them and seek God’s help in dealing with them.

I think, frankly, no human being in this lifetime will ever have all of his questions answered. There’s always going to be a question bag on the shelf of unanswered questions that we haven’t had time to deal with in this lifetime. So the key to victory in the Christian life is not having all your questions answered. The key to victory is learning how to live with unanswered questions. That’s the real key. How do you allow unanswered questions not to become destructive doubts? And I think part of the secret of that will be by cultivating your spiritual life, engaging in spiritual disciplines like prayer, meaningful worship, Christian music, sharing your faith with other people, being involved in Christian service, so that you will foster the witness of the Holy Spirit in your life, be filled with the Holy Spirit so that when you come into the circumstances of doubt and the shifting sands of evidence and so forth you aren’t thrown into shipwreck because of that.

Finally, I would encourage you, whenever you get the opportunity, to take one of those questions out of the question bag and pursue it into the ground until you come to intellectual satisfaction with it. And I can say from my own personal experience that this is one of the most spiritually exhilarating and healthy things that you can do in your Christian life – to take some issue that has been a nagging doubt and make it the subject of a research project. Do a paper in your philosophy class on it, or something like that, and pursue it into the ground until you are intellectually satisfied with it. And it will free you from that ever being a source of doubt again in your life. And that is a wonderful experience.

I’ve done that with a number of questions that I have had, and it leaves you with the conviction that Christianity does indeed stand intellectually head and shoulders above every “ism” or philosophy that it might compete with. But of course, as I say, we’ll never empty the question bag completely. And so, while this is a healthy exercise, the more fundamental task that we need to do is to learn how to live with unanswered questions without allowing them to become destructive doubts.

Interviewer: Dr. Craig, thank you for your time.

Dr. Craig: You’re welcome.
HealthRe: US Surgeons Successfully Test Pig Kidney Transplant In Human Patient (photos) by Nothingserious: 3:24pm On Oct 27, 2021
PotatoSalad:
Imagine how advanced we'd have been if the dark ages never happened. Religion affects scientific advancements in a big way.
Good point.

Also imagine how backward we would have been if Christianity and other theists hadn’t stepped up in their quest for knowledge that led to great scientific and philosophical advancements
HealthRe: US Surgeons Successfully Test Pig Kidney Transplant In Human Patient (photos) by Nothingserious: 11:32am On Oct 27, 2021
Falseprofet2:
cool

Scientific advances have made life better

I see Righteousness 2 who must be one of the most ill informed poster thinking this means the end of the world

I see his fellow ignorant religious followers wailing about anti christ
Science and Christianity aren’t alternatives.
Christians and other theists contributed greatly to the development and advancement of sciences and built some of the foremost universities that trained great minds in philosophy and science.

The Christian is never surprised at discoveries made by scientists as it was clearly spelt out in the Bible.

Francis Bacon said God had given us 2 great books of morals and nature in the Bible and sciences.

Let the human race recover that right over nature which belongs to it by divine bequest." Bacon explicitly placed his conception of knowledge and of a new science within the Christian tradition....Francis Bacon

“And God blessed them and said to them,
Be fruitful, multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it [using all its vast resources in the service of God and man];

and have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and over every living creature that moves upon the earth.

And God said, See, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the land and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food.

And to all the animals on the earth and to every bird of the air and to everything that creeps on the ground–to everything in which there is the breath of life–I have given every green plant for food. And it was so.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:28-30‬ ‭AMPC‬‬
https://www.bible.com/8/gen.1.28-30.ampc
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 6:06am On Oct 26, 2021
Reni1:
I think you are connecting the existence of a religion, christianity, with the existence of the unknown that set the Universe in motion, God.

Personally, I do not think the almighty needs anyone of us to prove or disprove his/her existence because we all came into this world without our consent and we sure will leave without it as well.

In addition, I do not think the almighty who created us whole will ask us to go to a different tribe to get the manual of how to communicate with him/her/they. I mean, if truly Isreal is the choosen generation, why didnt God give only Osraelite full pr*ck or human body and the rest of the world half and its only an Israelite that can share theirs to make us whole? Instead, irrespective of our race or background we, christians, muslim, buddhist, Sangoist, Ifaist, nothing-ist, all have thr basic human features. Humans are created equal however, as our society evolved there seem to be a need for class and religion helps put this in place, US bs them.


My point is, there is a high chance that we have been indoctrinated to defend a religion as it were the right thing and this may have been possible because we all want to escape from the shackles of poverty. For example, most of our parenta got an education or even scholarship abroad because they were smart and within a religious sect. We all want to escape poverty and education remains the key to escaping.

One more thing are you an Engineer, and I ask because of your reference to calculus- backward integration.
Lol!

You are a smart fellow. Thanks for your input.
I understand your point. I appreciate that.

You now speak like Apostle Paul in Acts 17 when he met the philosophers in Athens.

Well, what we do is just an academic exercise. It doesn’t shake our faith. Why? Because belief in God is a basic and warranted belief in humans that needs no proof just like our basic need to breathe air effortlessly, our basic need for food, our basic need for association and care.
Belief in God is basic and warranted. QED.

But then, Jesus made claims in the Bible and said he came from God.

“All things have been entrusted and delivered to Me by My Father; and no one fully knows and accurately understands the Son except the Father, and no one fully knows and accurately understands the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son deliberately wills to make Him known.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:27‬ ‭AMPC‬‬
https://www.bible.com/8/mat.11.27.ampc

If Jesus claimed to have come from God, and to know God and to reveal God to people, and to bring the kingdom of God closer to men, then we have to ask whether Jesus can be believed in.

First of all, did Jesus Christ of Nazareth exist?
Yes. History and archeology confirms that.

Did he do the things claimed by the Bible?

Yes, history and archeology confirms that.

Did he teach about God and performed supernatural feats?
Yes. History and archeology confirms that.

Did he teach about God?
Yes he did.

So can we believe in Jesus if all he did and said are true?

Yes we can.

Was Jesus baptized, died and resurrected?
Yes as confirmed by history and archeology.

Does Jesus live in the hearts of all who believe in him?

Yes as confirmed by his believers( although this is a subjective experience and can be shared by any Christian who believes and had experienced salvation in Jesus Christ).

So if all Jesus said and claimed is true, then all he said and claimed about God is true and can be believed to be true.

The burden of proof now tilts towards anyone who wants to say these are not valid truths.
Cheers.

“For as I passed along and carefully observed your objects of worship, I came also upon an altar with this inscription,

To the unknown god.

Now what you are already worshiping as unknown, this I set forth to you.

The God Who produced and formed the world and all things in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade shrines. Neither is He served by human hands, as though He lacked anything, for it is He Himself Who gives life and breath and all things to all [people]. [Isa. 42:5.]

And He made from one [common origin, one source, one blood] all nations of men to settle on the face of the earth, having definitely determined [their] allotted periods of time and the fixed boundaries of their habitation (their settlements, lands, and abodes),

So that they should seek God, in the hope that they might feel after Him and find Him, although He is not far from each one of us.

For in Him we live and move and have our being; as even some of your [own] poets have said, For we are also His offspring.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭17:23-28‬ ‭AMPC‬‬
https://www.bible.com/8/act.17.23-28.ampc
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 9:56pm On Oct 25, 2021
eebraa:
Is there anything in this picture that says otherwise?
Do you have evidences that proved the Bible wrong?
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 9:55pm On Oct 25, 2021
kingxsamz:
Who's arguing existence of Jesus with this one? grin
Do you have comprehension issues or something?
You have made a claim for your god's existence and I want to see if you can apply same logic for another god and you're dodging. Answer the question na. Answer since you're sure your logic is right. cheesy abi u dey fear?
Pointless. Pls move on.
Try again next time.
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 9:24pm On Oct 25, 2021
kingxsamz:
In conclusion, your write up says, Your god exists because some group of people worshiped Jesus. Abi no be so?

Isn't that what you meant in the quote above? Abeg let me know if I'm wrong.

And also, You have typed this same thing many times on this thread and think you're making some kind of 'hardcore' point.

The question now is, given the fact that you've claimed existence of your god through Jesus because he was worshiped, can we apply the same for Zeus?
You dey dodge question with simple answer.
If your answer is no, tell us why and how it's different from what you've told us. Nobody has called you a liar here, na you talk say your god exist, so we need to use same logic for you. Abi you dey fear to enter the hole wey you don dig? cheesy
Go back and learn basic logic.
Those aren’t rebuttals. Maybe elementary lake attempts to try your hands on objections to Christianity. That’s not how it works pls.

One more lesson for you. I don’t HAVE to object to Zeus to be able to defend my Christian faith and it’s validity. No. All I need to do is marshal out my points and you object them. If you can’t counter my points but keep surreptitiously hustling in Zeus for me to talk about, it implies you have little or no facts to object to my claims. And that makes my claims stand.

If you are interested in Zeus debate which I am not interested in now as it adds little or nothing to me, then Marshall out your points for Zeus and let Zeus apologists defend it.
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 9:07pm On Oct 25, 2021
kramer:
You must not know that Dinosaurs and humans never lived in the same timeline. Humans appeared millions of years after dinosaurs had perished. This contrasts with creationism where it is believed that man and all animals were created around the same period.

Please read up on this if you didn't know
https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/did-humans-and-dinosaurs-ever-live-together
I had waited all day long to see your basis for lying against the Bible here.



Again you miss the point.
Genesis 1 says this about the ages of all God’s creation:

1. Heavens and the earth older than vegetation which is older than animals which is older than humans.

Genesis 1:1-2 does not say the number of years after creation of the heavens and earth and the humans.

Which of the Bibles did you quote from?
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 9:05pm On Oct 25, 2021
Workch:
Lol, provide evidence and stop wasting people time.

Who wants to counter a dullard? cheesy
I have no doubt that you are just a kid with narcissistic tendencies.
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 9:04pm On Oct 25, 2021
kingxsamz:
Oga answer the question, abi e hook you for throat? cheesy
You said archeological evidence for the worship of Jesus is proof of Jesus' existence, and there by the proof of your god. Now going by that same logic, Do you agree that the archeological evidence for the worship of Zeus is the proof of the existence of Zeus?
It's a question which needs a yes or no answer.
You don't have to act confused. Yes or no. cheesy
Just so you don’t keep fanning yourself for strawmanning. This again is what I posted earlier. Since you were so obsessed with it, I am willing to hear your rebuttals line by line. Don’t cherry pick. If you can’t successfully refute these, then they stand. Your time starts now.
Good luck!

Yes. It is not an evidence for God’s existence.

One of the arguments for God’s existence is the life, baptism , death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
So many never believed in the historical Jesus Christ. This if confirmed true implies Jesus Christ truly had disciples who worshipped him as claimed by the Bible and who had a church as claimed by the Bible and who were real as claimed by the Bible.

By deductive reasoning and backward integration, one could work one’s way backwards to confirm the historical Jesus Christ and his influence through his resurrection on the disciples who were radically changed and emboldened after his resurrection. If this is true, then the arguments for God through Jesus Christ is also valid and stands as one of the evidences for God’s existence. Of course all these historical and intellectual arguments is for the skeptic.
They do not form part of the faith of the Christian which purely comes from the Holy Spirit and the Bible and the finished work of Jesus Christ and his atonement death.
They only strengthen the faith of a Christian who doubts sometimes.
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 7:46pm On Oct 25, 2021
kingxsamz:
Oga it's a simple question.
Do you agree?
If you don't, tell us why. Simple.
I'm waiting.
Go back to what I said earlier.
You didn’t counter the point I made on Jesus of Nazareth and his claims about God and his historicity. Talking about Zeus is not an objection to the facts about Jesus Christ.
Elementary logic!
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 2:49pm On Oct 25, 2021
kingxsamz:
No one is arguing the existence of any guy named Jesus here. If you can provide proof of his supernatural powers, then we can maybe consider that your god is real.
And also, by your logic Zeus is real. Do you agree?
Right premises.
Wrong conclusion.
You have nothing on Jesus Christ. If you had, you would have said it. My claim stands.

Make another attempt at your logic.
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 2:00pm On Oct 25, 2021
Workch:
Yes, someone that always want to be right even when all evidence are against him.

Is that not what you are?
The world already saw and knows who the childish, chest beating, narcissistic fellow is here.

Do you still need a formal introduction?
Very glaring. Lol
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 1:55pm On Oct 25, 2021
Workch:
Which dating in particular, tell me.

I dare you to discuss it with me grin
Narcissism
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 12:30pm On Oct 25, 2021
Workch:
Prove me and everyone watching wrong that you know science cheesy
You know what the mean when they say someone is narcissistic?
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 12:29pm On Oct 25, 2021
Workch:
What radiometric method will be most likely employed to discover the age of the mosaic floor?

Baba cannot discuss this because he's illiterate cheesy
If you knew how to use any of the dating methods to dispute that archeological finding, you would have been beating your chest now.

You don’t know . So just sit this out poor child.
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 11:17am On Oct 25, 2021
Workch:
Then let's talk about the scientific process that validated the dates of the mosaic floor.

What method of radiometric dating do you think was used? cheesy
Lol!

You talk like a kid.
Focus on using that scientific dating method to dispute this archeological claims.
That way you become more relevant
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 11:16am On Oct 25, 2021
Workch:
Stfu, illiterate.
You asked me a derailed question already. Talking snake believer trying to sound smart
We heard this cliche several times. Do you have more mockery and lame inconsequential things to say?
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 10:41am On Oct 25, 2021
Workch:
Just say what’s on your mind and stop asking me stupid questions
Why do I always have this feeling that your mockery on discussions add little or nothing to your points?

I also think you only deviate in topics and can’t focus for long.
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 10:40am On Oct 25, 2021
Workch:
You cannot discuss any science topic for very long
Prove me wrong and pick any topic lets discuss it, Your ignorance will be shown even if you check Google.
Distraction. Side-stepping. Straw-manning.
Pls focus on the issue at stake.

You will make one spurious statement that is unrelated to the topic, then wait for me to join you and get distracted or get someone to support you. Boom...we deviate.

By the way you don’t know me. You know nothing about science. When the opportunity presents itself in the course of our discussion, I will oblige your scientific request. Okay?
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 10:34am On Oct 25, 2021
kingxsamz:
By your logic, Archaeological evidence for the worship of Zeus and location which he was worshiped proves Zeus was a god and had supernatural powers. Nicely put. smiley
I am happy you neither attempted to deny the historical Jesus, his claims and all the scholarly works that validated his claims, nor did you object to what I said.
You only tried to side-step me.
.
Today is Jesus of Nazareth and his claims and the historical and archeological data around him. Don’t deflect
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 10:32am On Oct 25, 2021
kramer:
You must not know that Dinosaurs and humans never lived in the same timeline. Humans appeared millions of years after dinosaurs had perished. This contrasts with creationism where it is believed that man and all animals were created around the same period.

Please read up on this if you didn't know
https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/s did-humans-and-dinosaurs-ever-live-together
Again you miss the point.
Genesis 1 says this about the ages of all God’s creation:

1. Heavens and the earth older than vegetation which is older than animals which is older than humans.

Genesis 1:1-2 does not say the number of years after creation of the heavens and earth and the humans.

Which of the Bibles did you quote from?
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 10:26am On Oct 25, 2021
Workch:
nothingserious is illiterate, keep discussing with him and he will show you.

He starts asking stupid loaded questions when he has nothing else to say
You brought your foolishness to this thread.
I was surprised you hadn’t displayed it all along.
Now I am no longer surprised that you spilled it. I had expected it.
Keep quiet if you can’t keep up with the discussion
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 9:17am On Oct 25, 2021
Workch:
Religion makes people dummies.

How can you discover an ark made of wood after several thousand years? Are you scientifically illiterate?

Wood is made of organic compounds that cannot last for that long.
What you posted her indicates religious people actually have more critical minds than you do.

How were scientists discovering remains from eggs of animals, left over of foods in the bellies of animals, cakes from antiquity, whereas you have problems with woods?
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 9:10am On Oct 25, 2021
Workch:
how does that correlate with my post?
So you lose track easily?
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 9:08am On Oct 25, 2021
Dreytonisback:
Are you sure you can finish what you're about to start?
Mind your business
Shoot!

You are just as religious as any Christian.
You hide under humanism to object to Christianity.
Jesus said to love others as oneself.
He said it was a big law before God.
Isn’t that the summary of humanism, the religion you claim to love?
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 9:05am On Oct 25, 2021
Workch:
If you trace farther, you will discover that there was a time we had just one prokaryote which involved into everything.
Science has traced it to be 3.5billion years ago
Did the science say when humans had no eyes and how they saw things?

Did science say when humans had no mind and how they understood then?
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 5:59am On Oct 25, 2021
stanliwise:
No need, read about earth formation from the scientist standard point. Good day
Scientist point of view? Like Christian scientists who believe in science and the fact that all origins are traced to God?

God and science aren’t alternatives!
Christianity EtcRe: Mosaic Floors From 1500-Yr-Old Lost Church Of The Apostles Found In Israel (Pics by Nothingserious: 5:54am On Oct 25, 2021
stanliwise:
Strengthen the faithhuh

I hope you know if we go by this logic there are a lot of counter discovery? It is either you have not read them or you are trying to be one sided.
Show us pls.
Of course that isn’t the only thing I said there.
I meant the Christian’s faith is hinged on faith in God and Jesus and the Bible through the conviction of the Holy Spirit.
What you are referring to is the intellectual and emotional objection or evidences for one who sometimes doubts, not for all Christians.

I hope the works you talk about are scholarly and well attested to?

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