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kmariko:you are the one that lacks comprehension and understanding, you cannot commit intellectual fraud and hope to be heralded, you guys are not fooling me and i wont allow you to fool the public either so i will keep punching holes in your lies. All am saying is Ekpe and nsibidi is the cultural heritage of the Efik/Ibibios and not igbo! If you dont accept that premise then you must be really lacking in understanding of the subject matter. |
davitogreat:extending it on paper is not the same thing as constructing the road, from edo state to Akwa Ibom the East west road exist though at various level of construction, but the road is there, But nothing exist on ground from Oron to the calabar axis. I know they said they signed the contract to extend the East west road, for me seeing is believing. I wan to see work start on this coastal railway period. |
odumchi:Nonsense, you cannot change centuries old precept, Ekpe is an Efik/Ibibio cultural heritage and not igbo. We have dances that resemble and bear similarities to egedege dance of the igbos, But We never claim it to be ours eventhough they are similar. Over reach and intellectual dishonesty is a crime. A copy can never be original. And by the way odumchi we are talking Ekpe and its sacred language Nsibidi here, and not Odum or Agu owuru. |
wonderful, GEJ just got my vote for next year, But let them bring it all the way to calabar - o ! make ino be like the East west road that stoped in oron, Akwa Ibom And Now needs a new contract to extend it to calabar. I will be watching thiis project as na him go determine whether i vote PDP or SDP |
All attempt to call me names will not change the fact that Ekpe is an Efik/Ibibio cultural heritage and not igbo as most of you revisionist historians on this page want the public to believe. All your campaign to the moderators to have me banned and silenced because I have exposed your lies will fall on deaf ears, the moderators are sane, honest people who will stand for the truth. You are calling Nsibidi and ekpe an igbo tradition and i am challenging that. because i stand for the truth which is that Nsibidi and Ekpe is an Efik/ibibio cultural tradition and practice with centuries of literature and history to back it up. your job is to prove to us why its and Igbo tradition and not calling me names or trying to have me banned/silenced. |
The Igbos are not Efik/Ibibios, Ekpe and Nsibidi is the cultural heritage of the Efik Ibibio others are just wannabe. Thats the truth. Key question what is the meaning of Ekpe = Efik/Ibibio language used to describe big cats, espercially lion it could also be used for leopard, tiger etc thats that not igbo language. The igbo equivalent for this words is agụ owuru = leopard and odum = lion. and we are discussing Ekpe and its sacred language and not odum or agu owuru as the revisionist will want you to believe. They can never controvert this truth for its sacrosanct. Nsibidi is another Efik/Ibibio lanugage which we all know as the language of Ekpe cultural society. Whats the link to igbo? Ekpe and Nsibidi Both language of the Efiks and Ibibio, what has igbo to do with it? if it was their cultural heritage they would have had Igbo words to describe it. Stop fooling yourselves revisionist historians. A copy can never be Original. |
The Truth of the rich Efik And Ibibio Traditions are well documented and has been a subject of intrigue to the europeans even before colonization and hence there is a lot of literature on our history of shared traditions, Readers will do well to read those account from Talbots, to Amah jones in peer reviewed journals and scholarly books and not ogogor/kiakia fueled figment of imagination of a few igbo wannabe revisionist historians posted on fringe websites and lacking in proper academic referencing as above. A Copy can never be an Original. |
christopher123:Keep lying to your self the Efik ibibio history is well documented in great libraries all over the world you cannot change , alter, steal or pervert our history! here is the correct account of the revisionist history that you are trying to tell by your lies: For the Attention of those who want the truth:The History of Nsibidi Writtings. THE IBIBIO CIVILIZATION OF AROCHUKWU The Ibibio word "Nyibi" which means turn in English, is the root of Nyibidi. Nyibidi means turning. The play was usually accompanied with drummings. The drum is called Ibit. The drum for the ruling Crown is called Ibit Itam. Itam means crown, hat, or headgear. Ekpe was indeed the governing deity and Ibit Itam was one of their major plays. Ukara means governance or government in Ibibio. Ukara cloth is worn by those in the government of Ekpe. The Ekpe and even Ekpo masquerade of old used to dance in a circular motion in order to induce a trance-like effect or feeling. Hence Nyibidi. Ibibio is the largest language of the Cross River and Akwa Ibom territories. Efik, Ekoi, Annang, Oron, Eket, Qua, Ibeno, Okobo,etc. are all variations of Ibibio. The Ibibio owned and controlled Arochukwu until they lost it in 1634 to the allied forces of the migrating Igbo and the Akpa. The Igbo slaves of the Ibibio rebelled and joined forces with the Akpa who were themselves of Ibibio origin. The Ibibios left both Arochukwu and their ancient Long Juju, but those who remained continued to run the oracles and influence the Igbo converts/practitioners of Ekpe. The Ibibios and Efiks taught Nsibidi to the Igbos through the Ekpe society. The chief language used in Ekpe is Ibibio. The Ibibios and Efiks knew Arochukwu as Ibom and Mbot Abasi. Mbot means creation. Abasi means God. Therefore, Mbot Abasi means the creation of God or, simply, the people of God. While in Arochukwu, the Ibibio leaders had a secret society called Ekpe. Ekpe means leopard or lion. The leadership operated (and still does)in an esoteric manner. Only members are privy to the innerworkings of the group. They developed an elaborate system of logograms through which their ideas, knowledge, and activities were recorded. Nyibidi which means turning (going in circles), evolved into Nsibidi. Nsibidi is Ibibio for what is at play or, what's playing? Nso = what. I(as in letter "e" = is. Bidi = play or playing. NSO-I-BIDI (NSIBIDI) or NSO-I-BIRI(NSIBIRI) means what's playing? What's at play? Therefore, Nsibidi means what is playing or, what's at play? Nsibidi was later adopted as the name for the writings associated with Ekpe society. It is true that the Europeans found most of the Nsibidi script among the Ekoi, but it is really of Ibibio origin. When Aro and their allies conquered the Ibibio in 1634, they took over the oracle but retained its priests, with Loesin as the chief priest. It was he who later initiated Aro indigenes into the cult as priests. IBINI UKPABI is the IGBO corruption of IBIT UKPABI. Some say the Igbos used the word IBINI as homage to the slave-raiding Oba of Benin who caused their migration to Arochukwu. After the IBIBIO lost AROCHUKWU, the Igbos renamed the Ibibio deity IBI ITAM (Drum of the Crown). They called it IBIT UKPABI. IBIT is IBIBIO for DRUM. UKPABI is an IGBO name. The corrupted version, IBINI UKPABI, is what they use these days. Since Arochukwu(Mbot Abasi in Ibibio or God's creation/people in English) is the spititual center of the Igbo race, you can say that their 'holyland' is actually of Ibibio origin. I'll call it the IBIBIO CIVILIZATION OF AROCHUKWU. The Ibibio created it and that explains why the Aro deities have mostly Ibibio names. The Igbos could not fully adapt Nsibidi because translation from Ibibio into Igbo had too many constraints. Original meanings of Ekpe society's Nsibidi often got lost in translation. "There was no war between Aros and Ibibio -what happened was what one would accurately describe as a coup. The Aros who were assistants (slave by Europeans) at the Ibritam Shrine organized a coup with the help of Ekoi, Akunakuna, and Igbos and seized the shrine from their Ibibio masters. Talbot** put the date at 1300 -1400 based on the geneaology and calculation of the ages of relatives of informant who claims their forebears were in charge of this shrine -we dispute this because the informant forebears couldn't have been incharge since religious affairs in Ibibio land was entrusted to the group known as Annang today ,and this informant came from a different group. However, Talbot also based his date from Aro informant. We still think that the date was much earlier. However the consensus is that the Aros were in possession of the shrine before trade with the Portuguese and later Slave trade with Efik and later the Ijaws-Bonny and kalabari when Ibibios prohibited transportation of people across their territory." “Obot Okon Ita or Obinkita(an Igbo corruption of the name) was the capital of the Ibibio kingdom of Obong Okon Ita and Ibom(nation in Ibibio) before its conquest by Igbo and Akpa invaders in 1690–1720. This town is significant in Aro History because Obinkita became the center where defeated Ibibio warriors were judged.ion in Ibibio. This is why all Aro villages assemble at Obinkita during the Ikeji festival. Obinkita is now one of the 19 villages of Arochukwu.” “Agwu Inobia or Eze Agwu the man that was the founding father of igbo Arochukwu Agwu Inobia or Eze Agwu was one of the founding fathers of the city of Arochukwu, the third largest city in Abia State in southeastern Nigeria. He was the descendant of Nna Uru (a immigrant from the Igbo heartland to the Obong Okon Ita area) and king of the Eze Agwu clan centered in their capital the Amanagwu city-state. As new settlers, the Eze Agwu clan was resisted by the regional power Obong Okon Ita which led to the start of the Aro-Ibibio Wars. The war initially became a stalemate. Both sides arranged a marriage between the king of Obong Okon Ita and a women from the Eze Agwu clan in an attempt for a peaceful coexistence. The marriage eventually failed to bring peace but eventually played a decisive role in the war. King Agwu Inobia invited Priest Nnachi from the Edda group near Afikpo to help him break the stalemate and win the war. When he arrived, Nnachi and Eze Agwu allied with prince Kakpokpo Okon of the Ibibio kingdom of Obong Okon Ita. Kakpokpo Okon was the son of the marriage between the Igbo women of the King of Obong Okon Ita. The Eze Agwu/Nnachi faction decided to help Kakpokpo attempt to overthrow his brother king Akpan Okon and the coup was heavily resisted. Nnachi called on an Eastern Cross river group known as the Akpa for help. The Akpa are said to have possessed guns and are credited for introducing the weapon to the region. Princes Osim and Akuma Nnubi led Akpa soldiers to help fight against the Ibibios. The alliance between Eze Agwu, Nnachi, Kakpokpo Okon, and the Akpa eventually defeated the Obong Okon Ita forces (1690–1720) under the leadership of Osim Nnubi. As a result of the Aro-Ibibio Wars, the alliance formed the Arochukwu kingdom. Akuma Nnubi was appointed king of Arochukwu in the place of his brother Osim Nnubi who died during the end of the war. Prince Kakpokpo Okon died and the Ulu Okon dynasty was assimilated into the Eze Agwu lineage. The Amanagwu was incorporated as the first of the 19 city-states of Arochukwu and Eze Agwu became one of the three lineages of Arochukwu.” "The other major slave-exporting state was a loose confederation under the leadership of the Aro, an Igbo clan of mixed Igbo and Ibibio origins, whose home was on the escarpment between the central Igbo districts and the Cross River. Beginning in the late seventeenth century, the Aro built a complex network of alliances and treaties with many of the Igbo clans. They served as arbiters in villages throughout Igboland, and their famous oracle at Arochukwu, located in a thickly wooded gorge, was widely regarded as a court of appeal for many kinds of disputes. By custom the Aro were sacrosanct, allowing them to travel anywhere with their goods without fear of attack. Alliances with certain Igbo clans who acted as mercenaries for the Aro guaranteed their safety. As oracle priests, they also received slaves in payment of fines or dedicated to the gods by their masters as scapegoats for their own transgressions. These slaves thereby became the property of the Aro priests, who were at liberty to sell them." http://countrystudies.us/nigeria/7.htm __________________ |
ujoinme:What an awesome stadium, i love the writeup too, Am based in calabar, my brothers were there to watch the opening of that stadium a few weeks ago, the stories of the beauty of the stadium i heard has helped me make up my mind to visit the stadium, I will not make it today but in March when Brazil vs Nigeria friendly will take place in Uyo, I,my wife and kids will be there live, Neymar better be there lol congrats Akwa ibom State thats what a responsible governor should do, deliver good infrastructure. |
romeo:The cubans and brazillian of efik/ibibio ancestry are the ones practicing Ekpe and Nsibidi , Not Igbo, Go there and also find the part of your Igbo history and cultural practices that were taken there and are preserved till today, we the Efik/ibibio have found ours in Ekpe/Nsibidi, the yourubas and other African groups have also found their culture preserved in the diaspora. The igbos should do same and not try to usurp our own cultural heritage. The igbos cultural practice includes the OSU CASTE system, ebegede dance etc, go to cuba and brazil and the Americas and do research to find out if the people bothered to preserve such cultural practices! and stop this intellectual fraud that you guys are projecting. |
I will keep exposing all you revisionist historians, Truth is sacred. claiming other people cultural heritage is criminal |
arresa:It will take the village state that you crawled out of A 100yrs to be able to build the standard of stadium in Uyo and the Kind of infrastructure uyo has! STF U you little jealous hag. |
waternogetemeny:I created my thread to respond to the fraud that you posted. I have always been an observer of nairaland an never posted on the site before but when i saw your lies on the front page i became a member of Nairaland to burst your fraud, you think you can intimidate me? you cant for i stand for the truth, you are the one to be ignored because you are a purveyor of lies. |
christopher123:Nonsense all because i punch holes in your fraud, thats what cowards like you do, resort to name calling when they are exposed. |
christopher123:You are intellectually bankrupt and a dishonest person of the highest order, You can never pervert our cultural heritage. Stop giving your people a bad name, there is so much scholarstic evidence to disprove revisionist history. The truth stands out in the midst of all your lies. |
kmariko:Nonsense i asked you a question answer it, Who are the Ekoi people? and where are you from? |
kmariko:What is Ekoi? Stop branding word you dont understand its meaning who are the Ekoi people? the ekoi are not igbos they share similar culture with the Efik Ibibio people and may have also copied the Ekpe and Nsibidi. |
true2god:At least we write their language and call it theirs no one is trying to usurp its heritage or change its history as your fraudulent brothers were trying to insinuate here,I do not pervert the anglo-saxon and roman as Efik. all over the world people borrow, language, art form, culture, words etc, But they always acknowledge the source or the root, Unlike the fraud that the Op and others were trying to perpetuate, If the igbos borrowed the culture or art form and language of Nsibidi and Ekpe, thats fine with me as long as they are humble and honest enough acknowledge the source they got it from and not try to pass it off as theirs. You can call me all the names you like it wont change the fact on grounds, Others might value their money, others their station and status in life, We the Efik value our cultural heritage and will not stand around to see it perverted by anyone. |
kmariko:I am proudly Efik, my dad is from duke town calabar, cross river state and my mum from Uruan, Akwa ibom State. both communities where Ekpe societies are Alive and well. And where are you from? |
ujoinme:This is a fine academic research, thank you sir, of most importance to me is the over 20 pages of Academic references, The accumulation of such literature will be the Achilles heels of revisionist historians. Once again thank you for your link to such wealth of information. |
http://afrocubaweb.com/abakwa/cubanscrossriver.htm Our proud history, others can only copy, the copy can never be the original. |
OboloMAN:Now the ijaws are claiming Ekpe and Nsibidi too, wonders shall never end! ha, ha, ha i laugh in Efik. these are people with no identity to be proud of hence the need to steal or usurp. |
cococandy:You wish, am going to stay on this thread and expose your lies till you confess your fraud. |
MissMeiya:be banned for exposing your fraud? you are a revisionist historian, you are the fraud here and you and your cohorts need to be banned. Ekpe and Its sacred Language is the cultural heritage of Efik/ ibibio people and not Igbos, so your whole "Igbo nsibidi" is a fraud and should be expunged from this website until you tell the truth about Nsibidi. You cannot build anything on a faulty foundation and expect it to stand. You cant steal the Efik/ Ibibio cultural identity! Igbos should look around their culture and find something to be proud of not stealing a cultural heritage that does not belong to them, Thats my point. |
cococandy:no you need to cry the tears while confessing your fraud. A copy can never be Original. |
donpope1:keep lying to yourselves these is the legacy of igbo people to be fraudulent about every thing including trying to steal something as sacred as a cultural heritage! A copy can never be an original. |
cococandy:These are the shameless theives, very soon they will claim that Efik/Ibibio is a traditional language spoken by Igbo people, you people are inertly fraudulent and liars of the highest order. keep fooling your selves with revisionist history. |