₦airaland Forum

christopher123:
dont ge me started, who are you and who is attaching himself to minority like you, take your damn fuckingg time...look at small you , what do you know about ekpo, is it only in calabar that they have ekpo, dude, behave yourself, as if ekpo is the science wonder of the universe, a bunch of old men in a fetish thing saying shiitsss


how dare you say the word, i am attaching my self to you, what a travesty, do you forget that we have igbos in cross river, or have you forgotten so soon that the governore imoke of your so called state is an igbo from agbo clan of izzi with his wife, or do you want to doubt or sweep that under carpet...


look at dog nose, now go and eat dog and never qoute me, again, you should even be happy that i am responding an efik goon like you ....i ask you a simple question that you couldnt answer


what the hell is the meaning of NSIBIDI, your there talking trash, its because of this stupidity of yours that they sold bakassi

now bounce and dont quote me again

all4naija:
What are you whining about? You seat there in the Nigerian dusty environment and think everybody lives like you. You primitive. I don't live in Nigeria in the first place, jerk head!

remsonik:
I agree that the author of this article tried to use nsibidi the forgotten language to correlate it with ibo, but nsibidi originated from the ekoi that's the ejagham tribe in cross river. Pls visit some parts of akamkpa and even the slaves point of no return in calabar and see some earliest nsibidi writings which dates back to the 17th and 18th century. Nsibidi is not Ibo,ibos only gave it a name. The reason why some parts of ibo can lay claim to it as native speakers is because of intertribal marriages that happened amongst them then.

waternogetemeny:
Again u see where u go wrong? Nsibidi did originate amongst the Ejagham people of the northern Cross River region.

Prove how the Ejagham people now equal Efik/Ibibio?

cold:
Huh! Like seriously

waternogetemeny:
Ok! The point here is made clear in the article, so not much to discuss. I can't continue to argue based on ur personal opinion becos that will be a waste of my time.

Kindly provide a source to support ur dispute of the original article by the OP and all other published works of authority, until then u are entitled to hold ur own opinion as everybody holds their own a.s.shole.

MissMeiya:
There's something wrong with your brain.

ICHINONYE:
This s a country I am from, a country we all are 4rm, A country I know is domed beyond ethnic n religious line, our past rulers ve seceded in dividing dis country into different ethnic n religious boundary, except 1 man wil wake up one day n construct d damages am sorry we are not heading anywhere as a country . Now take a look @dis Nsibidi, som1 just pop it out to defend her own ethnic group on a Naira sign war, we should be talking about one Nigeria n that oneness can't stand if we keep searching for a fault n who to blame in each ethnic group

waternogetemeny:
I don't want to talk to u.

waternogetemeny:
Ekpe, also known as Egbo (Ibibio: Leopard), is a secret society flourishing chiefly among the Efiks of the Cross River State, the Oron, of Akwa Ibom State, Nigeria, Igbos in Abia State, as well as Southeastern Nigerians Igbo/Efik/Oron in the diaspora, such as in Cuba.

My prayer point for u is that u stop ur obsession with my tribe and see me as an equal, like i see u.

Radoillo:
Wiki-what? I don't get my information from Wikipedia or any non-scholarly online sources.

If your lecturers in Uyo and Calabar told you Nsibidi was an Efik/Ibibio innovation, they are the revisionists. If they told you the Eastern Igbo never had Ekpe, they have no business teaching in a university.

christopher123:
Nsibidi is only one among a number of precolonial, indigenous writing systems of Southeast Nigeria. The actual origin of the Nsibidi writing system remains unknown. This comes as no surprise, seeing that Nsibidi is/was the product of secret societies and is/was heavily associated with secret and magical rituals. Europeans first discovered the script in 1905 among Igbo-speaking people. However, the use of Nsibidi and its associated secret societies was also widespread in what is now known as Cross Rivers state.

Though the actual origin of Nsibidi is unknown, common consensus links the writing system to what is now the Cross Rivers geographical region. Some historians even take it further and assert that the Ekoi people (the Ejagham) are the ones responsible for the early development of the Nsibidi script. Notwithstanding the Ekoi assertion, the Cross River theory has credence. Going by oral tradition from various communities within Southeast Nigeria, the diffusion pattern of the Nsibidi-associated secret societies is apparently traceable to the Cross Rivers region. Whether or not it is Ekoi specifically is not conclusive (at least, insomuch as I have been able to find out).i am in my 30s and I have grown up to see nsibidi signs and my part of igbo land is very far from cross river

One thing I can categorically say is that nsibidi is an igbo word i would also love to knbow if it is an Efik word also, but the origin of NSIBIDI cant be said who developed it first and who refined it, but whenever Nsibidi is talked about what comes up is Igbo AND eFIK

Igbo and Efik had this long term relationship which they still maintain till today so NSIBIDI is just a point to prove that. Who Invented it we do not know and Who refined the invention we do not know, just like Ekpe society, who inented and refined the Ekpe amongst the two culrtures we do not know


One thing is sure, they Igbo and Efiks are good neighbours

thelegalpundit:
Nsibidi has Igbo roots? Well, I've always known Nsbidi to an ancient writing deeply rooted, or should I say a form of writing which 'originated' from the Efik/Egaham speaking parts of Cross River State. This form of writing is gradually going extinct, although several research/studies have been carried out by the Cross Rivers State Min of Culture & Tourism to see how this form of writing can be revived.

Love your writeup though.

PS: Even Wikipedia sometimes have wrong facts.

christopher123:
MY BROTHER I WILL LOVE US TO BE A BIT INTELLECTUAL, DO YOU KNOW THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CULTURAL GROUP, MAYBE YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND EITHER YOU ARE A YORUBA THAT IS A BIT FAR, BROTHER WE LEARN EVERYDAY, NSIBIDI IS PREDOMINANT IN IGBO AND EGEGHAM OR EFIKS CULTURURE, FOR US TO START THIS ARGUEMENT WHAT IS THE MEANING OF NSIBIDI THEN FROM WHICH LANGUAGE IS IT, THEN WE CAN TALK WHERE IT ORIGINATES


PLEASE WHAT IS THE MEANING OF NSIBIDI

THEN GIVE ME THE PROVES OF NOT IN IGBO CULTURE


GIVE ME ALSO THE PROVE OF EKPE NOT IN IGBO CULTURE,


IT WILL BE FROM THERE WE CAN MOVE ON, INSTEAD OF TALKING WITHOUT PROVES


GIVE US REFERENCES AS I AM DOING AND HAVE GIVEN ...THIS IS HOW INTELLECTUAL WORK IS DONE


USE REFERENCE TO BACK UP YOUR ARGUEMENT


http://www.scribd.com/doc/63616534/Ikpo-Nsibidi-Igbo

http://igbophilia./tag/nsibidi/

christopher123:
my dear this is not a peniss measuring contest, the word or name NSIBIDI is just igbo, meaning from the begining or earlier depending on the contest, mind you we are here to learn and we in south east with efik has so many similarity in culture till today, i do not expect you in South West to understnad this miasma but maube check this link out biko


http://ukpuru.tumblr.com/page/3

christopher123:
my dear this is not a peniss measuring contest, the word or name NSIBIDI is just igbo, meaning from the begining or earlier depending on the contest, mind you we are here to learn and we in south east with efik has so many similarity in culture till today, i do not expect you in South West to understnad this miasma but maube check this link out biko


http://ukpuru.tumblr.com/page/3

newscontinental:
Please where can I learn this language?

christopher123:
The Ekpe is a men’s society found in Abiriba, Aro-chukwu, Ohafia and many other Bende communities in Igbo land, it is a variation of the important Egbo Ejagham ( Ekoi) in the Upper Cross-River as well as the Efik Ekpe Society of Calabar. Egbo means leopard in Ejagham, while Ekpe is also the Efik/Ibibio word for the powerful creature (leopard) which is the symbol of the organisation. It is pertinent to note that Agu is the name of the leopard in Igbo, therefore it is clear that the Cross-River Igbos borrowed the Efik/Ibibio word.

In Aro-chukwu and Bende, the Ekpe society was the main legislative and judicial force in community government in the days of old. The striking, symbol-laden fabric of stich and dyed indigo and white (Ukara) is the Ekpe cloth in which the esoteric “language” of Nsibidi is embodied. Strong creatures of the forest, are important symbols of the Ukara cloth and this symbolizes the powerful authority of the Ekpe society.

Nsibidi is an ancient system of graphic communication dating back to at least AD 170. It has a variety of different characters and is indigenous to areas of Southeastern Nigeria and Southwestern Cameroon in the Cross River region, some of the major towns and cities that use Nsibidi are Abiriba, Arochukwu, Calabar, Ikom , Ohafia and other smaller towns within the Ejagham/Ekoi , Efik, Ibibio and Igbo speaking nationalities, it was also taken to Cuba and the Americas via the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. The Nsibidi name changed among the different groups, for example among the Igbo it is generally known as Nsibiri while in Cuba it is called Anaforuana.

Nsibidi is aesthetically compelling, encoded and does not correspond to any spoken language. It is a graphic script whose symbols refer to abstract concepts, actions and whose use facilitates communication among peoples speaking different languages. It comprises of hundreds of symbols that can be drawn in the air (as gestures, on the ground, on skin (as tattoos), on houses, on art forms, such as masks and textiles (Ukara). The early European missionaries and writers were able to record about 200 of these Nsibidi characters.

The Ekpe entourage comprises of the knit-bodied maskers “the runners” who are said to be the servants or slaves of Ekpe from the spirit world, when the masquerade is dancing it continuously sends signals and messages (Nsibidi) which only the initiated can understand. Each movement of the masquerade tells a story. In the ancient times the runners carried out regulatory functions in the name of presiding Ekpe spirit. The Ekpe spirit is housed within the Ukara- dressed “stationary masker” Uluo Ekpe (the house of Ekpe) from which the mysterious voice of Ekpe is heard during the funeral celebrations of its members.



The Ekpe Abiriba was brought from the Ena clan in the upper Cross-River during migration, hence in one of their songs, they say “Ekpe Ya Nko”, Nko being one of the homes of Abiriba Ena. To confirm the authenticity of the origin of the Abiriba Kingdom, the Ekpe Abiriba added a replica of a canoe and paddle to the Ekpe entourage indicating the crossing of the river, when the replica canoe is in motion it is referred to as Ubom Marima, the good boat.

The exhibition of the Ekpe society entourage is quite spectacular and it is with pleasure that we share with you pictures of the Ekpe entourage, which again would be on display during the Igwa Mang festivities in Abiriba this December.

Radoillo:
Before you start having a convulsion over what I never said, Nsibidi originated from the Ekoi/Ejagham people and spread from there to the Efik/Ibibio and the Eastern Igbo.

And you should get some education before coming here to say that the Eastern Igbo do not/did not practise Ekpe.

Fresia01:
I learnt about nsibidi in university.... more of an igbo thing

christopher123:
WHO TOLD YOU, ONLY THE NAME NSIBIDI, IS AN IGBO NAME, NSIBIDI IS JUST AS IGBO AS THE NAME CAN BE, MIND YOU IGBO AND EFIKS SHARE A LOT CULTURALLY AND LINGUISTIXCALLY...DO YOU KNOW THAT EKPE IS STILL PRACTISED IN SOME PART OF IGBO LAND LIKE ARO

AND AROS ARE SCATTED IN IGBO LAND

THERE IS A MASQUARADE CALLED EKPO


NOW HOW DARE YOU SAY SUCH...YOUR HATRED FOR IGBO IS SOMETHING

Nonsense be proud of your own igbo culture and stop trying to steal other people cultural identity.


IGBO HAD A ROBUST CIVILIZATION EVEN BEFORE THE WHITE MAN V VIA THE ANCIENT KINGDOM OF BIAFRA


so do not rewrite history

waternogetemeny:
Nsibidi is primarily used by the Ekpe leopard secret society (also known as Ngbe or Egbo), which is found across Cross River among the Ekoi, Efik, Igbo people, and other nearby peoples.

Radoillo:
No, it didn't originate with the Efik.

all4naija:
I won't! What can you do to me?! You primitive person! You hate to learn and cry when you are accused of mediocrity! Nonsense!

all4naija:
Must the governor stand be painted in the national flag colors? Those who design things in Nigeria have backward mentality. What is needed is for the pulpit to have the same dark color as seats close by or make it from glass and hang the governor seal on it. The Nigerian flag would have to be by the side on a silver pole. In fact the place looks very third-dish even though it is a new building that is supposed to look modern. Jeez! I frown at the way they organize the place. Not a good taste for me though!

arresa:
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STFU with your dumb and unintelligent rubbish... Dumb asssss villager...