₦airaland Forum

naijalander:
How can you compare Ibadan to Kano? So middle belters don't do rituals too??

Hell NO we dont. It is almsot impossible for you to ever hear a Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Nasarawa, FCT or Taraba person with human parts....Jeez!

Infact, in my tribe in Plateau, traditional religion has been extinct decades ago! You are either a christian or muslim. We hardly believe in all that nonsense.
I cannot speak for Kogi people though because they have a very strong yoruba influenced culture, likewise Benue and Igbo influence. However, it is still very rare to hear of a kogi or Benue person involved in all these rubbish, to the extent of discovering somewhere like Soka forest on our land? God forbid for such a thing to exist on our soil! It will be exposed immediately!

This is why i don't trust yoruba people. How can such a place exist in their land for years? Are you telling me that there are no interior villagers who know about these places? Of course they do, but they choose to keep quiet about it and allow evil go on.

Aksumawi2805:
Thank you!My mom is an Amhara woman from Gonder city and my dad is Tigre from Axum.

Ok.
Pls, what exactly is the difference btw Tigre, Tigray, Tigraiya and Tigrinya??... They all appear very confusing unlike Oromo, Amhara or Somali which have very clear definitions.

I read that most Tigres are muslims and that majority of them are found in ER and not ET. True?

Hati13:
All most all the inhabitants of Axum were Agew, Agew/Arab and few Afar people. There language was called Geez language(now, it only serves in the orthodox churches of Ethiopia), which was formed from the mix of old Agew and Sabean languages.

During the decline of Axum from the 8th century onwards, some inhabitants of Axum(the king also) migrated south of Axum(modern day Wollo, Amhara region) by crossing Tekeza river. Those who crossed the river and those who stayed at Axum started to be isolated, because the mountains that separated those areas were one of the most rugged mountains in the world and it was very difficult to cross those mountains and return back to Axum and vice verse to present day Amhara region. Those who crossed started to mix with the locals Agew people again and a new identity started to emerge for them. Those people are what we call now the Amhara people. Their Geez language also started to mix with the locals Agew language and a new language appeared(Amharic language). Amharic is the least Semitic language in the world that show Semitic behaviors(70% Semitic and 30% Cushitic(mostly Agew). It's grammar structure is completely Cushitic(Subject+Noun+Verb).

Those who stayed in Axum also a new identity and language emerged for them. Those people are what we call now, Tigray(Ethiopia) and their language Tigragn and Behir-Tigrayia(Eritrea) and their language Tigri language.

The Agew, Amharas, Tigray, Bahir-Tigrayia and Gurage peoples are descendants of Axum. So basically, we are the same people. It's just our Semitic admixture which varies.

Wow, very enlightening.
So, where do Somalis and Oromos come in here?
Somalis claim they were part of Axum, or are they just lying about it?

Also, how similar is Tigray language and Amharic? Are they mutually intelligible?

Hati13:
No, they don't speak Amharic. There language is called Tigre, which is different from the Tigragn(northern Ethiopia) language.

Ok thanks for the clarification.
But when Eritereans were still in ET, were they not speaking Amharic (the official language)? What language were they comunicating with other ethnic groups?

naijalander:
You also forget that Hausas have victimized middle belt communities much more than any Southern tribe. Yorubas gave them western education, Igbos exposed them to mercantilism, etc. Hausas simply tried to force Islam down their necks.

You 3 major groups of Nigeria cause almost as much equal pain to we minority groups.

Many middlebelters have been victims of Hausa-fulani extremism of course, but many middlebelters have also been victims of yoruba and Igbo diabolism, rituals, scamming, fake products e.t.c These are all terrible practices we middlebelters hardly enage in, but we equally suffer in the name of one Nigeria with you guys.

The only reason you yoruba and Igbos look better to us is because you are making better human and economic progress overall.

naijalander:
I think most groups in the middle belt still prefer to associate with Yorubas than Hausas. Unlike Yorubas, Hausas never make political concessions, thats how rigid they are, for them every thing starts and end with Islam.

We all know that Hausa-fulanis are terrible in many ways. The point is that most middlebelt people fear or dislike Hausas almost as much as we do yorubas.
Yorubas may be less of religious extremists, but what about the strong diabolical and ritual practices associated with yorubas? I fear living in Kano as much as i fear living in Ibadan for instance.

Many middlebelt people are muslims and just like muslim yorubas, they are all extremely sympathetic and apologetic to Hausa-fulanis. So, it really makes no much difference.

Hati13:
I want to correct you. The Amhara ethnic people hadn't enjoyed life in the past. Yes, most of the ruling class were Amharas, but either the Amhara people had suffered equally like other ethnic groups in Ethiopia or suffered more.

Look at the period of "Zemena Mesafint", most of the rulers at this period were Yeju Oromos. It was the Amhara people who suffered more because of frequent wars than other ethnic people. During the Oromo population movements between mid 16th to early 19th century, the Amhara people and other ethnic groups had had faced many atrocities.

Most of the Amhara people now, aren't living a normal life let alone a comfortable life. Go to the Amhara regions of Wollo, Gojam, Begamider and northern Shoa and you will how most of the people live a terrible life with no basic accommodations. The Oromos are now, living a better life than the Amhara people.

Ok, i accept that some of my points were wrong.
Let's agree that Amharas and Oromos are equal in ET. Cos the world still see Amharas as having a better life and influence in ET, since Amharas control the capital city Adis Ababa and Amharic is still the official language.

Oromos and Amharas are just about 2/3 of Ethiopia. What about the other minority ethnic groups like the people of Omo valley region, Ogaden region and the Southern peoples and nationalities e.t.c? What about them? You can agree with me that majority of them are far from modern life. Or not?

Ednite:
HAVE YOU BEEN HERE? DO YOU STILL BELEIVE AMHARAS ARE RULLING? DO YOU? HAVE YOU BEEN TO AN AMHARA UNIVERSITY OR OROMO UNIVERSITY? DO YOU KNOW THIER DIFFERENC? DO YOU KNOW WHAT OROMOS AND AMHARAS THINK RIGHT NOW??


ANSWER!

I might be wrong (so i apologize).
About the Oromos, i think they now have a better political influence because of their liberation movement or their increased agitation over the decades, cos from what we see, Amharas have been dominating ET for a long time now.
If not, can you pls explain why the capital is in an Amhara speaking territory and why the official language of ET remains Amharic till date?

fanficgirl:
Yea, they didn't occupy all of Ethiopia but do you honestly think that Ethiopia would have beenableto keep resisting:

I think, because people on the highlands and mountains usually have a strong advantage from lowland advancing forces.
Habeshas inhabit highlands.

This highland characteristic was one reason Danfodio could never conquer nor islamize Plateau people and Plateau remains the strongest christian hold of Northern Nigeria.

Olu317:
It is not always true with what you feel about Yoruba having no penchant for minorities. In fact, Yoruba have shown more love to minorities than any other group claiming majority. In Yoruba land, there is nothing like the usage of religion or ethnicity to fight anyone either any majority claiming group or minorities . Yoruba indigenes have not oppress any minorities that decide to live amongst us. And if such arises, you will still find some Yorubas standing up for such person or persons. This show the kind of hearts we have towards people. In the 1960s,before the civil war broke out, when Edo wanted to forcefully have their way out of western region, which was orchestrated by the federal government during the first Republic, it was granted to them despite, part of Yoruba people being carved under Edo state. And there was nothing like waging war against them so as to subdue them or whatever reason that can be given which may be as a deterrent to the division of western region. Instead, it was WILD WEST that happened in which Yoruba fought against Yoruba(those in support of Akintola against those in support of Awolowo). Awolowo group had their way. Eventually, Awolowo was roped as planning to overthrow the government. He was arrested and jailed. His first son and first born died on this case as his car tumbled over when he was coming to defend his Father and other action group strong leaders. And today, I can't even see anyone who is of Akintola's lineage, as outstanding as Awolowo's descendant. The current Vice president, Yemi osinbajo is married to one of the descendant of Awolowo. Yoruba don't believe in oppression but equity and fairness. Some people may disagree based on this. But the truth can't be hidden. And on the issue of ILORIN, the Fulani didn't have say nor Hausa because, it was all Yoruba war during the 18th century when Afonja destroyed Old Oyo . Even, after his death, it took three or four confrontation before Ilorin was made to BOW DOWN to OYO through all the Yoruba warriors that stayed and stationed at Ibadan. They Hausa Fulani knows they can't match Yoruba in anything. If it was Yoruba that waged war against Nigeria, do you think Yoruba won't win the war? My brother, we are located in a place we can access the world at ease. We have Yoruba in diaspora in millions who are well known and established. I tell you, Nigeria Will bow if Yoruba start any serious problem of arm carrying. Anyway, let hope, things straightened up naturally.

Apparently you misinterpreted my point where i said that '' yorubas have no penchant for minority groups''. What i really meant was that you guys are not interested in forming a united identity with minority groups or using additional minority group populations for greater political relevance, unlike the Hausas and Igbos who are always all over Middlebelt and South-south minority groups.
Although i see that this might have been caused by the early seccesion of Bendel (Midwest) minorities from the old western region.

Talking about Yoruba against Hausa-fulanis or yoruba waging war against Nigeria. I really don't want to undermine the power of any group here, especially a majority group. However, see for yourself, it would be very possible for yoruba to withstand Hausa-fulani (alone), cos both groups have almost equal populations, but if middlebelt and other northern minorities join in with Hausa-fulanis, the disadvantage on yoruba would have been very clear like 2 against 1, not to talk of Yoruba against Nigeria (where we are talking about 20% yoruba population against 80% Nigerian population) and we all know the North controls the military. Unless with stronger external influences, it would be very impossible!

naijalander:
mehn Nigerians are the most well traveled folks in the sub Saharan, I've been around and I meet Igbo dudes in almost every local govt I enter !

The Moi they are talking about ruled them for 23 years, which person for Naija fit try that nonsense, Abacha wanted to try it and dem off d guy sharp sharp.

Basically Kenya starts and ends with the Kenyatta family. Their country is ruled by a Kikuyu - Kalenjin/Nandi elite and they are just as tribalistic as Nigerians even though they have a unifying language.

I swear if Naija had a unifying language, it will be a different story.

You are very correct. If Nigeria had a unifying language, tribalism would have drastically reduced.
I honestly wonder why a country like Kenya with a unifying language would still be facing such terrible tribalism. It's very appalling.

DonnieTheGreat:
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Yeah, i read that you guys export a lot of roses too> i really dont understand. Ethiopia is the second most populous country in Africa after Nigeria. But your GDP is just $60 billion. What exactly is responsible for the relatively low GDP.

Also,
Do you listen to this guy? - Amir Dawud - Kealo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7zSQCYhvtg

The problem i think Ethiopia has is racism. Their country does not engage the entire population of the country in nation building.

If you go to Amhara region (the most powerful ethnic group in the country for instance), you will see every aspect of modern life and development.

When you go to Oromo region, u see a drastic reduction in what you saw in Amhara region.

When you go to the Southern peoples and nationalities region, you will weep for Africa, cos what you will see there is unimaginable.

You do not even need to go to the Omo valley region unless you are going there for tourism cos that's where the millions of uncivilized ethnic groups are kept for tourist purposes.

The racism and internal division in Ethiopia is almost the largest in the world. Even Ednite would not deny it (although i apologize to her because i know she might be hurt by what am saying here), but nevertheless, that's the truth!
If you doubt me, go online and learn about the regions of Ethiopia and learn extensively about them.

DonnieTheGreat:
Baba you are obsessed with Habeshas o. We know they are beautiful. But cool down .Northern Ethiopia is just one flight flight away.

Btw,
Earlier in the thread you said Kenyan men marry Habesha women. Can you post some photos of some kenyan/Habesha couples?.

Also,
here is an Instagram page showcasing the best of Habeshian beauties
https://www.instagram.com/habeshaqueens/?hl=en

Thanks me later.lol

Habeshas are very beautiful no doubt, but i think their beauty is overrated.
There are Nigerian tribes like the fulanis and Shuwa arabs who have exactly the same facial or skin features like the Habeshas which we all assume to be beautiful.

Not to talk about the other equally beautiful and voluptious women you find from other parts of Africa.

MtuMsuper:
You see, kenyan economy does not depend on one commodity after another in a cycle that says we move from this to that to the other. That thinking is for Gabon, Nigeria, Angola which are oil fixated and derive the vast majority of govt revenue from oil and gas. See what your friend in travel section affirmed, that he was amazed kenyans have done all thus without oyel but tea and flowers.

The shining new baby in the agric sector is the milk sector. The fishing industry is undergoing a mini revolution too. There is also a new attempt by various governors to develop their competitive advantage. Do you know for example the efforts Kisii county is doing to make it a center for medical tourism? Joho is trying to modernise fishing in Mombasa.
Kiyana, dont stick in Nairobi and say you know kenya inside out. Me , a living kenyan is always discovering new things about my country. Things are never static and changes and new additions all over the place. You, the foreigner in our midst should also do the same and update. Kenya is not the simplistic narrative you want to weave.

It's not our fault that we were blessed with crude oil in Nigeria.
You guys were blessed with an amazing wildlife and this has helped you immensely in developing your tourism sector.
Prior to the discovery of crude oil, go and see how Nigeria was among the leading world exporters of Cocoa, Oil palm, Rubber, Groundnut, Hides & skin, Tin & Columbite, Coal e.t.c

Oil came along with the de-regionalization of Nigeria and that was what destroyed this. However, if you are in touch with Nigerian affairs, you will see how our agricultural, manufacturing and tourism industry is drastically coming up. In a few years time you will be shocked. Haven't you asked yourself how we came out of recession even with the existing low world oil prices?

naijalander:
Dude common, we both know Indian influence on Kenyan politics could never end at MP level, who are we kidding. What about the several frauds they have been implicated in?


Paul Kamlesh Pattni is a Kenyan businessman and pastor. He was implicated in the 1990s Goldenberg scandal but was acquitted in 2013 (Wikipedia)

Don't make me dig further bro!

How did you know so much abt kenyan business men?
Abeg, continue exposing them.

naijalander:
Ok seen.

Now, consider that Nigeria has like 20 Brookside type of business who mostly produce powdered milk because most of milk comes from the North, Southern cattle rearers mostly do it for meat production.

And isn't it funny you saying Adenuga and Dangote are rich cos of govt patronage yet the Kenyatta family own literally half of Kenyan land, in fact there was a time it became popular saying that Kenya was named after them (calm down I know Kenyatta means burning spear [I think]). The Kenyatta family own the largest share in Kenya's real estate market. So you calling out Adenuga and Dangote over govt patronage is double standard, Kenyan businessmen, escpecially Kikuyu tenderpreneurs enjoy a boat load of patronage and you know it.

Lastly, Brookside rose because of govt patronage after all it's not like the Kenyan economy is any more diversified than Nigeria's, before oil was discovered in Turkana, what else could they have invested in ? Tourism was already saturated, and coffee cartels were never going to be bullied so it only makes sense milk was the next choice and I must admit, they did a pretty good job with that maziwa

Wow! You really know much about Kenya.
What surprises most kenyans here is that they think many Nigerians don't know the terrible things in that itty-bitty country of theirs. So they come here and flood us with lies.

Gosh! Can you imagine how a political family (the Kenyattas) will turn a full country to their private estate?
Gosh! Why are black people so wicked and greedy?

And what pains me the most is that in places like Kenya and other African countries, you see this rich political families flaunting this stolen wealth of theirs publicly! I thank God that Such nonsense does not happen in Nigeria. That is the height of insult to the people of a nation. It looks like these corrupt political families do nit give a damn about what their people think about them. Or could it be that we are the ones getting it wrong here and that people ruled by such leaders are just cheap sycophants??

Ednite:
You tot of it that way because there was this annoying somali nairalander named 'Axum'. The kingdom covers horn of Africa and Somali might be part of it. But the famous Axum stalaes are still standing in the northern part of Ethiopia

Yes i think u are correct. I will try to study more about that empire, but i'd like to know, which tribe exactly was in charge of the empire?

Ednite:
yes, they're always in the side of Ethiopia

So, this means most Tigrinyas in ET have been speaking Amharic for decades and have been ruled by Amharas?

What abt the Tigrinyas of ER, do they speak amharic too?

naijalander:
There you go...

Many Kenyans are liars who are masters at fact twisting. I have clearly observed this here. Although i clearly understand. They don't want their little ego bruised.
Everyone knows the influence these Indians have on Kenya's economy.

Maduawuchukwu:
The region of Boko Haram which is the north-east is a very vast region with many parts having little or no people and no government presence. It is like the Pakistan tribal belts and it is at the border area with our northern neighbours;borders which are not secured or enforced.

Seriously, Nigerian govt must do something about that North-east region. It is just too vast and it has the lowest population density. It is also the gateway and roadway to the middle east. Security must be strengthened there.

If you ever enter some interior areas in the North-east, you will wonder if you are still in Nigeria. The only good thing about the North-east is that about 1/3 of them are christians and are very much flexible and opened up, that's why, even as rural and infrastructurally terrible as that region is, they still have a higher literacy rate and lower poverty rate than North-west (Hausa-fulani homeland with 90% muslims).

MtuMsuper:
I have failed to understand all these years how a terrorist organization can just walk into Nigeria, set up HQs complete with a command and a fighting force, impose laws on the people and take over judicial functions from the judiciary, judge peoples "crimes" , waltz around like they own heaven, take a serious swath of territory larger than most small countries, and even declare allegiance to their fellow idiots in Syria/Iraq. I can never understand this. In my opinion that is loss of territorial sovereignty.

That can never happen in present day Kenya.

Kenya is not as big and diverse as Nigeria. The single and stupid state govt (Borno state) were the cause of what the whole Nigeria suffered. They failed to alert the Federal govt about this issue when it started from the scratch, not until it has escalated and Boko haram had had a very strong base in one of the forests in the state (Sambisa forest).
Although, we may not blame Borno state 100%. That state is the largest or 2nd largest state in Nigeria and has some of the deepest and most vast forests and terrains in Nigeria. It is also the gateway to Chad, Sudan e.t.c Travelling across the length of Borno state can take up to 10-12 hours. That's to tell you how large the state is.
To worsen the case, our Nigerian army, security intelligence e.t.c is all centred in Abuja (a day or 2 days journey from Borno state).

Aksumawi2805:
Selam Ednite!A fellow Ethiopian here.Eritrea and northern Ethiopia (collectively known as Abyssinia )were under the same kingdom until
towards the end of Emperor yohannis IV rule,where Italians started occupying Eritrea When Menelik took the throne it was already occupied.

Aha, of course i knew this! Thank you very much for the clarification. You are very welcome to this thread. Are you also Amhara?

@Obaaderemi, i hope you can see that i was right!

Ednite:
Axumite kingdom emerged present day Eritrea and Ethiopia. Which was a very remarkable kingdom.

Emperor Menelik took control of the whole Ethiopia, yes. But not much was mentioned about Eritreans during his regime

Ok thanks. But i tot Axum was a somali kingdom?

Pls when am talking of Eriterea here, i hope you know am refering to the Tigrinyas (the largest ethnic group in Eriterea) and not other minority groups?

What about the Tigrinyas in Ethiopia? Were they always ruled by a different kingdom from those in Eriterea?

MtuMsuper:
See what am saying? You just blurt out a statement
See what am saying? You just blurt out a statement

See what am saying? You just blurt out a statement, and assign a value to it beauty.You use your standard as the standard. Even worse, you want us to accept it without question. Clearly , you view cultures in hierarchy. What does that make you.
You should write a book one day and call it "My Struggle". I wonder what its translation in german would be. Off to Google Translate.

Whatever.
To you yourself, you will even agree with me on the greater beauty and advancement of the Nigerian fulani boror culture if you see a juxtaposition of Kenya masais and Nigerian fulani mbororo. Heck the world will agree! People who still play nakedd openly have no basis of comparison with those who do not, according to our present day definition standards.

Olu317:
People don't always learn from the past even in history because their HEARTS HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO THE DEVIL. The best option for Nigeria is to restructure accordingly. Imagine, some languages in Nigeria classified as extinction threatened languages. There are many ways each group can benefit from one another if restructuring take place. But they won't because some few people believe, the toothless army are in their grip. I mention “toothless army" because these young men who swore to defend Nigeria with their last blood are just been sent to be killed by Boko Haram without adequate military ware. i pity many of these soldiers who have fought and died as well as those still fighting on behalf of Nigeria government. Isn't it a joke to rescue few chibok girls without Nigeria Army's knowledge? It is a sad thing having knowledge of such. And the West are not willing to sell arms to Nigeria because of the fear of genocide. Can you see who is fooling who? Even Britain has NEVER COME UP WITH A PLAN TO ASSIST NIGERIA ON THE GULF OF BENIN that has been termed as the deadliest in term of pirates threat. Nigeria is a joke if it doesn't restructure to favour the right set of people. I have seen the trend at which some people are calling Yoruba to engage the government the way some people are doing in the South East. But far be it, because the most disadvantaged group today in Nigeria is the so, called North Central,who are supposed to call for restructuring. And until the JUKUN LEADER, in the person of T.Y DANJUMA ,who has been silent all these time and other minorities alike group LEADERS seeking reason to justify the call for restructuring, nothing tangible can happen. The minorities are the focal point if restructuring is going to take place. Else, Nigeria, will wait till day of Judgement, when shock will go through the bone marrow of the oppressors. By then, it will be so hard to turn back the hand of time.

You have said nothing but the truth.

See, the issue of North-central is a very confusing thing. Hausa-fulanis had the advantage over our people and the whole Nigeria, their society was well and better structured when the british came and we were classified under them. Although, many of us always resisted and fought for our own region, but the british refused to give us. Were we to fight them?
You yorubas have no penchant for minority groups as such. If not for the Nigerian civil war, Eastern minority groups would have still been under the stronghold of Igbos till now just as we are to the Core-north. So, it is not always easy for minority groups to unite against a majority group and assert their own identity, because even among the minority groups, some will be more sympathetic to the majority group.
See the case of the Igbos, The Rivers minority groups (present day Rivers and Bayelsa states) easily betrayed Igbos during the civil war and even confiscated their properties, but such never happened among the Cross river minority groups (present day Akwa Ibom and Cross river). They fought alongside with the Igbos to the last and till date you will see the better relationship btw them and the Igbos compared to Rivers people. (Sorry to my Igbo brothers who may want to take this narrative of mine personal).
If you have noticed the fight for the middlebelt struggle, you will always notice that it is always from Benue-Plateau and Southern Kaduna axis, with little from Taraba-Adamawa axis. Most Niger state, Kogi and Kwara people (except the yoruba speakers) are very much okay and comfortable with Arewa identity and clearly this comes from Islamic sentiments which the Hausa-fulanis always use to get them.

The reason why till date many north-centrals believe in One North was because of the Sardauna. During his rule, he carried everyone along (Hausas and minorities, muslims and christians) and Arewa identity was promoted and our people were never mistreated, so, many of them were meant to believe in One Arewa from their childhood. That's why you see that most of our shameless elders are not ready to do anything about this. We the youths who were not born in that era of one arewa nonsense are the ones who are agitated about this issue and in a short time from now, Nigeria will start hearing from us.

The reason why people always drag in yorubas into issues of agitation is because of your people in Kwara and Kogi. They are a majority, but living as minorities. They are misidentified in Nigeria. Your fellow majority group (Hausa-fulanis) are using your own people to intimidate you (Yorubas) with their so called '19 northern states control' and many of you are falling for it.
If Nigeria breaks up today, do you think Hausa-fulanis will not war you yorubas over control of Ilorin? Or are you guys going to let those places go to them just like that?

naijalander:
South Sudanese have dark skin, Sudanese do not. Differentiate the two.

Hahaha, of course i differentiate Sudan and S.Sudan.
S.Sudan has no issues with black identity, infact that was the main reason they divided Sudan.
I am talking of the main Sudanese. Majority of them are dark to brown skinned. Yes, they have very light skinned people just like Somalia does, but the majority of them are still dark skinned.
Only the rich upper class and elites are mostly very light skinned.

naijalander:
Kenyan Somalis and Indians are the chief sponsors of Kenyan politicians. Kikuyu money ain't sheet. Just saying compared to Igbo money, it really isn't much.

Of course, the world knows this.

Check the list of 50 richest people in Kenya for instance, you will see so many Indians and Somalis on the list.

TayserMahiri:
Sociology is a cool thing to study. It frees one of ethnocentricism and many other forms of centrism. I hope they do it in Nigerian schools. Its pretty much the same way people react about Chinese eating frogs and dogs, but in China, its practically nothing to even ponder about. Everyone finds others somehow weird.

I can never find the Chinese eating frogs or scorpions barbaric. It is their culture. They have their own cultures, but it did not stop them from educating themselves and advancing their culture.
Can you pls show me any part of the world where illiterates have achieved anything?
Even the Arabs who have the most opposing culture of the westernerns, yet they have accepted western education fully. Has that made them westernized or destroyed their culture or identity? HELL NO.

I think you lack a refined sense of analogy.

TayserMahiri:
I can almost bet Maasais are more literate than the Fulanis

The current President of Nigeria is a fulani. This tribe has produced up to 3 presidents of Nigeria.

Fulani gida (town fulanis) are different from Fulani bororo. Never generalize them. Although they had the same ancestors but they have evolved differently for a long time.
So, if you are talking about fulani bororo, fine, masais may be more literate than them, just that their culture is somewhat more civilized than the masais who still drink raw animal blood and play nakedd.
Fulani mbororo have a more beautiful and advanced culture than the masais and many fulani mbororo practice islam, hence acquire islamic education and even go for Hajj in Mecca.

MtuMsuper:
LOLEST! Since when did you assign yourself to the role of The Grand High Poo Bah of "Civilization"? Why do you go around throwing terms and assigning labels to people? Its seems to me that to you, difference equals problem and problem equals danger and danger equals elimination. Do you see where your faulty math takes you? And also, why do you presume that its the government role to dictate the 'culture' people follow? Any govt ,aywhere? And do you have any inkling about how these people you have arrogantly labelled 'uncivilized' feel in their own skin ? Don't you think they have evolved social structures, dressing, cuisine and all other elements of culture to suit themselves? And FYI as someone pointed out its no biggie finding supremely educated maasais and the more home grounded ones sharing the same platform? This latter point,egalitarian relations, is something i admire about maasais the most, they dont have rigid unbending social castes common to Nigerian cultures. Oh yes,the culture section is familiar to me, you'd be shocked how I can tell apart cultures and costumes from Edo to yoruba to hausa etc.

Well, i fully understand your point of view and i think the main issue here is cultural pride on the path of the masais.

Take a look at these people below. These are the fulani mboro (nomadic fulanis) of Nigeria. These people blatantly refuse to integrate with other Nigerians till date. They still choose to live a nomadic life in forests till date. Infact, they shuttle all over West Africa without a permanent home. These people have been causing serious problems for Nigeria because they usually clash with other Nigerian rural communities who are predominantly farmers. Many of them have also taken to terrorism and highway robbery.
Our govt have now began to work hard to create a system for these people where they can ranch their cattles in a single place and receive nomadic western education (it may take time though, but i hope it works out). Although, many of them in Nigeria have accepted western clothes and some very few do attend schools.

I think what your govt need to do is to appeal to the masais and they should probably be granted a county of their own where they can rule themselves and maitain their cultures but for God's sake they should be educated and stop mixing illiteracy with uncivilization. That's an eyesore!