₦airaland Forum

bizzibodi:
Are u serious?a plateau resident shld confirm.

I am a Plateau indigene. Raw meat is kept outside for days and it doesn't spoil. The last time I went to Jos in January, I bought quality chicken pie at Lokoja. I forgot it inside my bag and the bag was in the house for days, after almost a week, I brought it out and it was still very fresh and good.
Most houses in Jos are without fan.

bizzibodi:
Are u serious 8 deg in nigeria?

Yes Plateau state gets single digit temperature every harmattan.

Simongm:
She is from Lokoja(Kakanda) in Kogi west and not Ebira (Kogi central).

There are Ebiras in Kogi west too (Ebira Kotos). It is Ebira tao that are found in Kogi central.

Olril18:
my nairaland favorite poster...did u study history in sch?

I'm flattered. Nope. I'm actually a medical scientist.

DeOTR:
Well it's true, but Tula is not a tribe, it's a Tangale town.
Also, Owe, Yagba, Okun and Bunu in Kogi state are being listed as separate ethnicity from Yoruba.
Owe is the dialect of Bunu people if I'm not mistaken. The two was listed separately.
The list is over bloated by including different dialects that should have been parts of larger groups and even including names of towns and villages in some cases.
Since Kogi state was included as one of the states where we can find Yoruba people, then Owe, Yagba, Okun, and Bunu should not be on the list.

True, the yoruba dialects of Kogi shouldn't be classified as distinct tribes.

As for Tula, check again, I think they are considered different from Tangales even though they may be related.

Revolva:

As for you 'my 3rd class caliphate citizen friend' grin



Bro I beg your pardon

Don't ever call me a caliphate citizen

You are even from plateau state and have this bigotry attitude imagine I tought you were Igbo

Look it's everywhere in Nigeria some igbos look down on some igbos ebonyi m some part of enugu and some yorubas look down on ilajes and egun

So if northern akpoto igalas who they say are the real igalas which I don't and cannot verify are looking down on ibaji or olamaboro people it's is their own problem




We are all igalas it's when politrick came in all these look down thing will manifest and that is the way Nigeria is politics have divided everyone

But for an igala man not to cherish his fellow igalan it's a big lie we all dine together

I have never been discriminated as an igala before ooo I am telling you

Every igala has his own personal agenda ok

No bro, please I wasn't addressing you when I said 3rd class caliphate citizen. I was talking to Naajjii, the person I quoted. He claims to be from the middlebelt, but he is a very very strong fulani apologist.

You are very correct. People within the same tribes look down on each other all over the world. The only problem I have with this in the case of the Igalas is religion. You know majority of northern Igalas are muslims while southern Igalas are overwhelmingly muslims.
You hardly find christian northern Igalas talking down on southern Igalas, it is mostly the muslim northern Igalas.

Deadlytruth:
You are an ignoramus of gargantuan proportions. Etsakos were a clan in the ancient Benin Kingdom who had to migrate out of it in protest of harsh treatment meted out to them by the reigning king at that period. No Edo people are of Nupe Origin. Cut that dirty crap.
In one line you claim Afemais are of Nupe origin. In another line you claim that their being captured as slaves by Nupes led to the introduction of Nupe names to them.
How could Nupe names have to later be introduced to a people who were supposedly already of Nupe origin from the beginning? Can't you see that your stories are not adding up?
You think the name "Afemai" actually defines every ethnicity in Edo North? It is actually an Etsako appellation but loosely applied to the Senatorial District just for political expediency. Edo North is not an ethnically homogeneous area at all.
Stop peddling ignorance.
Another evidence of your ignorance is the claim that the spread of Islam ended in Agbede. There are actually indegeous moslems in Ewu which is further south of Agbede. Mr. Man, you know nothing about Edo State. I will advise you to keep off issues concerning the place so you won't continue to embarrass yourself in a public forum.

You are actually someone who is naturally full of bitterness and hatred. So you need to actually work on yourself if you will progress in life.

First of all, I guess I shouldn't have used the word 'many', perhaps just 'some'. I never said all Edo people have nupe ancestry, but I said there are many Edo people who do. This includes my in-law and her clan. She is from South Ibie, from the Azellamah family. They are of Nupe origin as well as many others. The caliphate through mostly the Nupes and fewer Hausa-fulanis brought islam to Edo north.

Almost all the tribes of Edo north actually came from Benin kingdom, I never disputed that with you! The fact that a tribe descends from somewhere does not mean that centuries after, everyone in that tribe still has that ancestry. More people from different places could have settled with that tribe and integrated. This is where I am coming from. The person I quoted with my comment was talking about how many Edo people answer Nupe names and I came in, yet you just choose to rush in with bitterness without understanding where I am coming from.

Naajjii:
Don't even deceive yourselves. The real original Igala are Akpotos who are the northern Igalas. They share culture with Egbura in Kogi and Nassarawa and also the Agatu and Idomas as well as Jukuns etc. The Original home and seat of power of Igalas was at Omagedde at the bank of River Benue bordering nassarawa and Benue not Idah. Some Igala people and the kings later migrated to the South (Idah),it was at Idah they had interaction with Edo people , Igbo people and other southerners. Igbo only have relationship with those Igalas at the border with igbo not the main Igalas in the north. Most Igalas see those igalas with Igbo relationship as inferior and look down on them because they see igbo as slaves and bad people. You need to go and understand all Igala people not just those Igala that have border with Igbo. Go and ask of Akpoto Igala , who are the original Igalas they don't share any relationship with Igbo.

Revolva, come and say something about this.

As for you 'my 3rd class caliphate citizen friend'

It is very common for the people of an ethnic group at the boundary with others to behave or be somewhat similar to their neighbours than even with people from the hinterlands of their cultures especially when these neighbours of theirs are very influential.

Yorubas from northern Oyo/Kwara for instance are very different from those from Ondo. Many yoruba groups from Ondo have strong Edo influence in cultures and even in their looks. Many Ondo yorubas are naturally lightskinned (not bleached oo), just like many Edo people are. This is something you hardly find among northern yorubas.

When you look at northern Igbos (Nsukkas, Nkanus and Ebonyi groups) for instance, they share a lot of similarities with the Igalas/Idomas. Igbos in Delta/Onitsha share so much with Edos. Igbos in Southern Abia (Arochukwu) share so much with Ibibios. It is always like this.

Even in my small Pyem tribe in Plateau state for instance, my mother's side for example share boundary and live side by side with Mwaghavul communities. My mother's family name as well as many in that area are Mwaghavul. Many of them there also speak the language fluently. They can easily claim to be from the other tribe and people may not easily notice.

This does not give people from the hinterlands or another edge of the tribe to call those from another end inferior tribesmen. It is stupidity.

abusurv:
Igarra and Ebira are the same their language are similar and they originates from the same empire only difference in tongue and pronouncements of some words.We refer to them as Ebira ethno,just like we call the Ebira from kotokarfi as Ebira koto and nasarawa as Ebira Toto.

Cc Deadlytruth

Revolva:
That is true bro that is why I told you that not all igalas have the same origin southern igalas don't have such origins ok

Even in idah there is a community whose origin are from Kano also but not all community o it's just few o and we igalas know them

Ok, but why do northern Igalas discriminate against you Southern Igalas and you guys do absolutely nothing about it?

Deadlytruth:
Your ignorance of the Oshuku generic appelation doesn't detract from its factuality. All what you wrote above are the lies which have been repeated for ages and have therefore worn an appearance of the truth. The mere fact that you can't see that the Oshuku's indegeous to Cross River State are not classified as Egbura, Egbira and whatever you call it means that you are wrong is a clear indication that it is you who have comprehension problem. Even the Ebira guy you mentioned above has, in obvious acknowledgedment of his ignorance in face of superior argument and historical accounts, surrendered for more education by releasing his WhatsApp number for a chat yet you a complete outsider has come around pontificating on that. What a hypocrisy!
You yourself have always been on NL trying to make clarifications on the differences between the Hausafulanis and the Middle Belters to which you belong despite the average Southern sees all of you as one and the same. If we are therefore to go by your reasoning, then I too can conclude that as long as most Hausafulanis claim that all of you Northern Nigerians do actually speak Hausa Language, then you are a Hausafulani.
It is rather disingenuous of you to bring the issue of speaking the same Language into this discuss as if that has anything to do with the bone of contention which is the fact that Ebiras have been trying, albeit fruitlessly, to impose their own identity on the others. A honest interloper would have asked for more education on the Oshuku appelation rather than dismiss it just because he has never heard of it.
Does the mere fact that Egbas, Yewas, Ekitis, etc all speak Yoruba make all of them Ijebus?
Even the Ebiras themselves know of the Oshuku appelation hence none of them has denied it here. It is the main inscription even on the emblem they themselves designed for their so called Ebira vonya movement. So I don't even think you are honest for claiming you have never heard of it.
Isn't it funny that you, as a complete outsider, are the one trying to tell a people who they are? Why then do you fret here when others classify you as a Hausafulani by virtue of the fact that you are from the Northern part of the country? Please you have no business on this Oshuku issue hence you will do well to keep yourself out of it.

Well, I'm sorry if my approach appeared condescending. I understand where you are coming from, however, I must let you know that you are fighting a lost battle. There is no way a tribe as large as the Ebiras already known, recognized and documented officially for decades can just change their name to something else.

For instance, the Ebiras of Nasarawa state do not call themselves Ebira, but rather Egbura. However you can still see it is still something close.

I have never heard the word 'Oshuku' before. I cannot just choose to be deliberately mischievous. I was and still am a leader of various middlebelt regional fora.

I had Igarra friends while in Uniben and once followed up their cultural day and none of them ever called themselves Oshuku or anything of sort. They usually identified themselves as ETUNO (besides Igarra).

Just for the records. Your analogy between your Etuno people and Ebiras with mine and Hausas is very very dumb. Why? Cos my native language is not Hausa or in any way related to Hausa. Most languages from my part of the middlebelt are even more similar to Calabar dialects and perhaps Chinese than they are closer to Hausa. Hausa is just a 2nd/secondary language to us. In the rural areas, many elderly people do not even speak Hausa well or none at all.
Is Ebira a 2nd language to you? This is why our people cannot be tied to a Hausa rope but you can be tied to an Ebira rope.
The only luck you Etunos have to claim a distinct identity from Ebira is because you people are in southern Nigeria (Edo).

ImmaculateJOE:
We have only

Igbo
Yoruba
Hausa &
Others

And among the others comes the FULANIS, who are now the most powerful in Nigeria today.

Here are Nigeria's 3 tribes of today, the
Fulanis
Fulani cows &
Others

pawesome:
This is the main reason why Nigeria is backwards in terms of everything.. Tribe

Most developed countries have a single tribe.. They white men want us fighting each other thats why they brought this shit upon us.. And is actually working really well...

The white men actually tried to unite Nigeria as 3 great tribes. Hausa, Yoruba, Igbo. But we disagreed. Well, we have to. The unity was a dirty job especially in the north

martowskin1:
List of our problems

Seriously, Nigeria would probably have been more peaceful if we were all united as one people devoid of our tribes just like Tanzania which Julius Nyerere forcefully united under 1 Swahili language and culture.
Today nobody knows or cares about anybody's tribe in Tanzania even though there are over 50 distinct tribes there. As a politician in Tanzania, try to play the tribal card there and people see you as a mad man.

Although, I learnt that this unity in Tanzania came with a disadvantage (the loss and extinction of their native languages & cultures).

DesChyko:
Wow. It's amazing no other tribe are indigenous to any of the five eastern states

That doesn't change the fact there are Igala/Idoma indigenous communities in Anambra & Enugu states along the boundary with Kogi & Benue. Likewise some Cross River tribes in Ebonyi state or one Annang village mistakenly carved into Abia state (forgotten the name).

I think only Imo state is 100% Igbo by geography.

ceaser500:
Tangale people are only found in Gombe state.

You were formerly in Bauchi. This list was compiled before the 1996 state creation.

xty50:
so many errors and your list is not complete.Where's bajju from kaduna state?

You are number 189 (Kaje). This is your Hausa name.

Anyone here from a northern minority tribe, if you don't see your original name, please check for the name you are called in Hausa language.
Gosh, I'm tired of educating so many people here!

Mynd44, Odumchi, BigFrancis, Seun, whoever is the admin for culture section, you guys need to pay me for this

We northern minorities don suffer sha. Some of us are even listed here with both our Hausa and Native names E.g number 266 & 325 SURA is basically the Hausa name for MWAGHAVUL. Mwaghavul people are addressed as Surawa in Hausa.

kingharzy:
173- Kafanchan
Is NOT a tribe in this country. It is only a location so make that amendment.

I think Kafanchan was actually meant to represent FANTSUAM (the actual owners/indigenes of Kafanchan town), just as Chibok was used to represent the Kibaku tribe. Some tribes were listed with the names of their towns on this list.

Goalnaldo:
It has been long I've seen such educating post grace front page. From the list I can deduce that the real 'no man's land' is Bauchi State they have virtually 87% of the tribes in that list.

Some of these tribes you see in Bauchi here are now in Gombe state. This list was compiled before the 1996 state creation.

The sad part of it is that most of the languages & ethnic groups in present day Bauchi state are at the point of extinction! There is a tribe 'BOLE' on this list in Bauchi state that has only 1 old woman who can still speak that language as of few years ago. She may be dead by now and the language officially extinct.

Bauchi has seen heavy Hausanization over the decades. Too many Bauchi people have been Hausanized and lost their langauges and cultures.

Deadlytruth:
You are rather the one who should stop speaking out of ignorance. Ebira is not even a language in the first instance but a dialect of the Oshuku Language. What is spoken by Igarra people is Etuno and not Ebira. Stop misinforming people. Leave Igarra people alone and face your Kogi State. You Ebiras must learn to stop this your tendency of trying to supplant the Oshuku generic name with Ebira. Igarra people are not a subset of Ebiras, rather they are as independent to themselves as Ebiras are to themselves too. In Cross River State there is an Oshuku speaking tribe there as well and they are not called Ebiras.
All this offensive attempts to reclassify Etunos as Ebiras is a recent politically motivated fraudulent development. Please stop it.

Yourself and realoscar84 have been arguing on this Oshuku-Ebira-Etuno issue for many pages. I decided to ignore you guys but just had to interfere.

Nobody knows anything about Oshuku except yourself and a very few people perhaps. I know a lot about ethnic groups in Nigeria and I'm just hearing the name for the first time.
However, people from Kogi all the way to FCT and Nasarawa state address themselves as Ebira, Egbirra and Egbura. So, If all these people from Okene to Koto-Karfe to Abaji (FCT) to Toto/Umaisha (Nasarawa) speak the same language as yours and you choose to deny your association with them, then I think you have a problem not them.

NeutralNigerian:
I can't find Zulu (c'leila), Kemanton, magavo, on this list

Lol, is it Zulu (south africa)? Or Zuru?

You are number 86! You are listed as Dakarkari (your hausa name) and not Lelna.

Are Kemanton & Magavo also found in Zuru axis?

Deadlytruth:
You made my day with this comment.
There are actually at least 15 different tribes in Akoko-Edo out of which none is Yoruboid let alone being Yoruba contrary to some tales from Ignoramuses online. The peaceful coexistence among them is founded on the fact that they don't preach one-Akoko-Edo the way one-Nigeria is preached to defraud one another at the national level, but each tribe is allowed to assert herself and protect her culture from undue interference from the others. They all know their bounds and respect one another's desire to be themselves. This is just the secret to their peaceful togetherness despite a whole world of difference among them.

Hmm, do u actually know the names of these tribes? I only know of Igarra & Okpamheri. I heard of Ososo & Ojirami, but aren't these just towns? Are they real ethnic groups?

kilimajaro:
Adamawa state has the highest tribes in Nigeria follow by plateau state

Officially, Taraba actually has the highest followed by Bauchi

madridguy:
From the list, Adamawa and Taraba state respectively have more tribes than other states.

My beloved Plateau, Bauchi, Kaduna & Cross Rivers are giving both states a run for their money

It really pains my heart that Nigerians are so dumb and don't know anything about their country. The educational system is a complete failure.

Firstly,there's no such thing as tribe;there are ethnicity and communities . There are no 371 Tribes in Nigeria; there may be 371 communities in Nigeria.There are 14 ethnicity in Nigeria :Igbo,Akwacross als known as Calabar or Efik Ibibio (unofficial name because this group did not decide on a name),Yoruba,Hausa/Fulani(Fulani are assimilated settlers) ,Kanuri,Ijaw,etc.
Ibibio,Oron,Efik,Annang,Eket are the same ethnic group .Oron is a community ,Ibibio is a community ,Efik is a community in Akwa cross group also known widely as Calabar or efik ibibio.
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Even within a community, there may be a few clans with slight dialectic variance from the normal dialect of the community . Simply put , each ethnicity has communities , each community has clans,each clans have chiefdoms(perhaps villages),all the way to extended family and nuclear family.

Ngwa,Onicha,Aro,Orimili,Igbere,Owerre,Omabala,Abakeleke,Nsukka,Etche,Ikwerre,Ika,etc. are the same Ethnicity with official name -Igbo
Ngwa is a community,Owerre is a community,Omabala is a community in Igbo group.

Each of these communities have different dialects of the same language ,and some of the dialects are more understood by everyone else in the group while some not so much. For example,Onicha and Owerre dialect are understood by everyone in Igbo group. Ibibio and Efik are understood by everyone in Akwa cross group .
In the early days of colonization,Igbo group as well as Yoruba group,Kanuri group, and Hausa group decided to create a synthetic language which unites all the communities. They decided to base the language on the most popularly understood dialect of each group. Some ethnicity did not create a synthetic language .For example ,Akwa cross or Efik Ibibio group did not create a synthetic language based on any of the dialects . One dialect was simply used - Efik dialect . but because Ibibio community has a larger population in the group,Ibibio dialect which is the most similar to Efik dialect is also widely popular and now more popular in the group than Efik .
To date there's neither an official group name nor official synthetic language for akwa cross grup. (there may be no need due to the smaller population of the group,and due to the fact Ibibio dialect greatly overwhelms the others. )

P.S :All languages have different dialects and that dialect may come with it's own accent.
Each ethnic nation has communities,each community has clans , each clan has chiefdoms(perhaps villages),all the way to extended families,nuclear family,Individual.

Please stop concluding what you do not know. Although, I understand your point. However, most ethnic groups you see above are actually real and independent ethnic groups especially in the North-central and North-east. These hundreds of ethnic groups you see from Plateau, Kaduna, Bauchi, Adamawa, Niger, Nasarawa, Borno, Yobe, Gombe e.t.c are real independent ethnic groups who are completely unrelated to Hausas, Fulanis or Kanuris in terms of language, culture or whatever. Some of them may be related to themselves, but not Hausa or Kanuri or Fulani.

I am from Plateau state, my tribe is Pyem and there is no other ethnic group in Nigeria with which we share a common language, not even in Plateau state. But in same Plateau, you have Mwaghavuls, Mupuns, Musheres, Fyers and to an extent Ngas who are related to each other with related languages but are seen as different ethnic groups.

So, if your approach is used, the total numb of ethnic groups in my state Plateau can be reduced to like 15 instead of the official 53, while that of the entire Nigeria can be 75 instead of over 350. Never can it be reduced to 14.

jay89:
Kadara(Adara) Are found in Kaduna and Niger State's not Taraba

Please, are the Kadaras in Niger state and Adaras in Southern Kaduna actually the same people who speak same language?

toscolee:
We have Nyifon and Abakpa in Benue state.

Pls are these really distinct tribes in Benue or are they related to Idomas? What LGA are they found?

Excallibur:
Jenjo Taraba

Nice. Pls I want to know.

*Are Jenjo & Karimjo the same/similar tribes in Taraba?
* Who is the majority between Wurukuns & Jenjos in Karim Lamido LGA?
*Do you guys now have your own indigenous kings in KLD or u are still under Emir of Muri?

Thanks.

[quote author=pureheaven post=81304945][/quote]You Eggons were formerly part of Plateau state and this list was created before 1996.

Besides I don't see why Eggons are so proud of this their Nasarawa. A state where they can never be governors even as the majority tribe and are treated as trash. Eggons made their biggest mistake agitating to leave Plateau state. An eggon man had a better chance of being a governor in Plateau than Nasarawa where Hausa fulanis are taking over.

IGBOSON1:
Maybe a bit more, but you're right! Part of our problem as blacks (especially in Nigeria) is nobody wants to be under anyone else...they all want to be autonomous so any benefits derived by virtue of being a ethnic group will come directly to them or as close to them as possible!

I laugh when i watch the news on the Niger Delta, and they talk of King so-so-and-so of one tiny tinpot kingdom like that! And coming to Igboland (SE, etc), you normally here of stupid, tiny 'autonomous communities'!

You are blaming the Niger deltans? Abeg, them dey try. Their tribes are even big enough. Come to the middlebelt/ North-east and see diversity.

In my LGA in Plateau state, there are 5 distinct ethic groups. There are LGAs in Southern Kaduna, Plateau, Taraba, Southern Borno e.t.c where you find 10 different tribes in one single LGA. The only thing is that everyone speaks Hausa as a lingua franca (2nd language), that is why our differences look obscured to you southernerns.

Cc ednut1

IGBOSON1:
Maybe a bit more, but you're right! Part of our problem as blacks (especially in Nigeria) is nobody wants to be under anyone else...they all want to be autonomous so any benefits derived by virtue of being a ethnic group will come directly to them or as close to them as possible!

I laugh when i watch the news on the Niger Delta, and they talk of King so-so-and-so of one tiny tinpot kingdom like that! And coming to Igboland (SE, etc), you normally here of stupid, tiny 'autonomous communities'!

Hahaha, don't blame blacks too much. Same things is happening in Europe. Catalonians and to an extent Galicians and Andalusians reject Spanish identity, cause they feel it belongs to Castillians who dominate everything and not them. Portuguese pulled out long ago. What abt the Basque seperatists of France?

Yugoslavians are actually one people who speak the same language. But they fought a bloody war and divided. Their divisions were always based on religion. Serbs were orthodox christian, Croatians were catholics while Bosnians were muslims. Today they are different countries.
How about Czech & Slovakia?
How about Germany, Switzerland & Austria?
How about Denmark, Sweden & Norway?
There are more!

Europeans fought many wars centuries ago to actually unite their tribes under one countries/empires, otherwise, they are also just like us.