₦airaland Forum

jpphilips:
Absolutely, Christians have got just 2 seats in a parliament of 260, yet someone is trying harder than titanium to convince me they are treated like kings in Iran, since you seem more celebral than the other mosquitoes, kindly tell me how many christians are represented in the Iranian Assembly of experts? (the body with power to enthrone the supreme leader)

How many do christians have in Saudi Arabia & Yemen?

Iran (the capital of Shiism) treats christians far better and honorably than Saudi Arabia (the capital of Sunnism), this na the koko of the matter.

There are 600 churches all over Iran, how many are in Saudi?

jpphilips:
Glad you know, so why do we have to swell the ranks of problems we already have by tolerating Shiites in our population?
what do we stand to gain as a nation with dissidents whose loyalty is with a pariah nation thousands of miles away?

By tolerating shiites? You are talking as if these shiites are Iraqi or Iranian citizens. These are Nigerian citizens. Or do we no longer have freedom of religion in Nigeria again?

Fulani herdsmen are much of a bigger problem to Nigeria than Shiites could ever be, yet the FG is turning a blind eye to the herdsmen. There can never be peace in a country where the government is partial.

jpphilips:
So this is the definition of an Islamic state?

No it is the definition of a secular state. Mtcheew.

Naajjii:
Lol look at this religion fanatics. Wether you like it or not Islam is spreading across Naija
You people can only cry of Islamisation agenda. Inferior people.
How about Osu Caste situation in your area, Any update to the system?

Nobody is crying of islamization, people are only talking of fulanization.
'Superior people' who still beg 'inferior people' in their millions for their daily survival on the streets

An Igbo friend of mine told me that Osu people tend to be the richest and most good looking people in their community when I asked about this Osu thing. How about updates on almajiranci? I hope u have not sent all your children to Niger republic to beg on the streets?

Blue3k:
Good luck with that. If you want to abolish one traditional institution your going to be asked to do all. They aren't ruled by them hence why Sanusi is controlled by kano state government. Sanusi said he dislikes Almajari system why hasnt he banned it as ruler if he has political power. Everything you see wrong with state is result of elected bodies.

Yes if it will take us abolishing all traditional institutions for the religious traditional institutions to go, then so be it. It would do better for us than a system that promotes religious discrimination on it's own.

Do u know that a Hausa-fulani christian can never be an Emir since he is not a muslim even if he is the heir to the throne? If it was truly a traditional stool, his religion should never be the issue, but rather his ethnicity.
At least Hausa fulanis are predominantly muslim, what about tribes like Zuru/Bura where the majority are christians but only muslims become Emirs and represent only the muslim minority of these tribes, is that not madness?? Tomorrow now if the christian majority decides to revolt and everywhere goes up in flames with thousands of lives lost like what happened in Kaduna in the past, people will start witchunting and calling names.

Well, let us continue looking at all these nonsense and watch our country self destruct upon the alter of injustice and extremism. At the end we all suffer together.

Sanusi had the power to end Almajiranci within Kano and the region at large by influencing the state institutions and other northern traditional leaders in subtle and solution proferring manner but instead he went on full scale verbal attacks and open criticism of the entire region. He wasn't just centered on Almajiranci, rather on the entire system of the region.
Not even Kano state governor has the power to end Almajiranci with brute force.
It would take a lot of government/traditional coalition from the various states of the north with a subtle approach on the masses and religious leaders before any longtime negative practice can be abolished in the north.

gurunlocker:
She noticed she is about entering Shiloh stage

Hahaha , you really cracked me up. Sometimes I really wonder what these ladies take us for.

jpphilips:
it is either you tell us what makes the north an Islamist state or keep quiet. No time to second guess what over fed kids think

People are beheaded instantly on the streets on mere accusations of insulting the prophet or tearing the Koran or selling food/eating food during Ramadan and no one is arrested or prosecuted, rather the killers are celebrated with jubilations.

Naajjii:
Lol my Nyamiri friend good to hear from you. Did you travel to Malaysia for drug and concaine business as common with you nyamiri people ?

No, as a muslim I went to Hajj with my normal Kwaya hidden in my bags, as I wanted to slam my head against the floor with my butts up I was caught and now the Islamic republic of Saudi wants to behead me and use my blood for sacrifice on the Kabba in Mekkah.
Lahillallatu il allahu

Kolping:
It is quite unfortunate but all the ethnic groups in the Northern have been subjugated by the Fulani since Uthman dan Fodio conquered them between 1804 and 1808.

The Fulani in Nigeria are the proxy rulers of the country on behalf of the British. The Igbo nation fought a war to escape their subjugation but their attempt was sabotaged by some other ethnic groups in Nigeria and foreign nations.

Your first paragraph is false.

The Kanuris, Benue-Kogi, Plateau-Southern Kaduna and much of Taraba-Adamawa & Nasarawa tribes and even Southern Gombe/Southern Borno were never conquered by the fulanis in any way whatsoever before the British came.
It was under the British system of indirect rule that many of these tribes lost their voices and came under emirates. About half of the tribes above still never came under fulani rule even during colonial era like my people from Plateau state whom the British wanted to place under Bauchi emirate rulership, but we heavily protested and got our own chiefdoms.

Fulanis have so much power in Northern Nigeria because they control the Hausas who are the largest tribe in Northern Nigeria, this is not rocket science. Worse of all, they started using religion and this has to work for them cos majority of northernerns are muslims.

Yes, most of the other Southern & middlebelt tribes who sabotaged the Igbos never saw what was coming. Also, the Igbos made the agenda look like a selfish one.

Had it been Ojukwu used Gideon Orkar's format, he would have gained the allegiance and unity of the south/middlebelt against the core-north.

Blue3k:
I agree they are religious leaders. Its no different from Queen Elizabeth being both monarch and head of Church. That's up to the north to abolish there institution.

No, it must not be up to the north to abolish it. If we must continue to share one country with this people, we must agitate that this system must be abolished because it affects the entire country negatively.
We cannot claim to be in a secular country with a secular constitution and yet a section of the country are ruled by religious leaders or political leaders who pay respect to religious authorities, that's absolute rubbish.

tigerclaws:
check your history
revolution can never be possible in a country like Nigeria because
Nigeria is a multi ethnic and multi religious country and if you check revolution hardly happen in a country like this because politicians always capitalize on these to divide the masses which is unfortunate situation of Nigeria

Don't worry folks we don't need to take to the street for revolution because Nigeria is too divided for that to happen

Fulani herdsmen are already doing the job and trust me a point will reach when people will start taking laws into their hands and that'll lead to anarchy which is worse than a Revolution

Exactly! A revolution can never work in a deeply divided multi ethnic and multi religious nation like Nigeria and I keep telling people this, but they don't get it.

Core northern Nigerians will destroy Nigeria with their own hands. If Boko haram does not do it, the Bandits will, if they fail, the shiites will, if they fail fulani herdsem will seal everything up and if probably these ones fail, a newer and more radical groups than the others will be born. The cycle cannot end.

My pity lies with the foolish group of innocent Southern & Middlebelt christians who are still wishful and hopeful that Nigeria will progress as a nation with core-northern muslims.

MossadAgent:
The holohoax never happened.

The 6million figure has since been debunked because at that period, global Jewish population was hovering between 6-7million.

Majority of the Jews that died in concentration camps died in the later stages of the war from Typhus and starvation due to bombing of supply lines to the camps.

Zyklon B was as common as Snipper today and was used to delouse inmates of lice.

The so-called gas chambers where actually shower rooms for new inmates and where not air tight.

The holohoax story was pushed by Russian Jews who first invaded the camps. The actually used their own genocide of Christians in Russia to spin that lie.

You cannot be serious by this. There are live first hand stories from people who are still alive today about the gories of the holocaust and you say it is just a Russuian Jew propaganda? Are u for real? Abeg bros, park well.

Kolping:
That's an interesting perspective on the Boko Haram crisis. It seems it might be a ploy to overwhelm the Kanuri people in Borno and Yobe states for eventual take over by the Fulani in the future.

There is also a view that has to do with the numerous uranium deposits (used in nuclear reactors) in the North Eastern areas where Boko Haram have control over. There are many local and international power brokers involved in the events happening in Borno and Yobe. Unfortunately the soldiers being sent to those areas are being led like sheep to slaughter.

Kanuris of today are a very foolish tribe. They were not conquered by the fulanis, but as of today, they have lost their voice to the fulanis all in the name of islamic oneness. They no longer have an agenda of their own.

Fulanis still have their Miyetti Allah meant to champion their own interests outside that of a joint Arewa, but a Kanuri body meant to champion Kanuri interests in non existent.

Your 2nd paragraph makes a lot of sense. It seems very likely.

jpphilips:
Northern Nigeria is not a fundamental Islamist state, the role of Amirs in the north is the same as our obas, Igwes, Obi's etc, how can you spill out so many lies per second, were you designed by Satan? the state government can do away with any of them at will.

Northern Nigeria may not be fully a fundamental islamist state but it is far from being secular as well! As a northern christian, I can tell you that it is in between and getting more fundamentalist by the day! So MossadAgent is not so far from the damn truth!

MossadAgent:
You don't need an equal number of Generals to command 10,000 troops.


The Jew's secret has been their ability to set up an agenda and follow it through generations.

They use infiltration, subversion, false patriotism, false conversion and deep seethed animosity of others through a supremacist tribe and religious mentality to control, manipulate and dominate society.

But there best weapon ever has been in controlling the narrative through their unfair dominance in the media and academia plus the financial and banking system.

In England, Jews have been marrying off their daughters to bankrupt aristocrats and raising the descendants of this marriages as Jews. Yes, Jewish ancestry requires the mother to be Jewish. A Jewish man who marries a gentile bride will not consider his own children as Jews. Why? Because, Jews are groomed by their mothers and later in their synagogues where full hate of the gentile and Christianity is indoctrinated into them.

Hmm, with all these powers and smartness belonging to the jews, how come they weren't able to avoid the holocaust?

jpphilips:
First you claimed it was an accident, I proved it was an assassination, now you want to lecture me on extraJudicial killings? bros, you are a learner, the right question you should be asking is this;

why did IBB lock El Zakzaky and threw away the key?
Why did Jonathan assassinate three of his kids linked to iranian intelligence?
why is Buhari hunting IMN like rats?

The day you can answer these questions correctly, that day, you will understand why we are begging you guys, please we are ok with Hausa, Fulani, Kanuri, Yoruba Sunni muslims, we dont need Shiites in Nigeria, everywhere they went, their only mission is destabilize and enthrone an Islamic republic, we dont need them, capish!!

Without Shiites in Nigeria, the country will still self destruct just like Somalia. Hausa fulanis and the ridiculous sunni religious ideologies with an illiterate mass and a maipulative elite are programmed to self destruct.

Are Boko Haram, Bandits, Fulani herdsmen and Maitastine Shiites?

Blue3k:
Lol doesn't make it non secular you clown. Nigeria is secular state since religious institutions dont make laws and freedom or religion is guaranteed. You wouldn't call UK Anglican state because it funds a Christian church. You bozos need to read a book before spouting nonsense.

As much as I have been following this debate and take your side, I must correct you on the issue of Emirs being mere traditional leaders. It supercedes that. They are religious leaders too and until we do away with this system, Nigeria will never know peace and progress.

jpphilips:
I don't expect you to know the answer haven been tutored by a mai-guard like Elzakzaky.
This is how Iran distributed only 5 Minority seats in his consultative assembly, Christians have 0 representation, you can keep your lies to yourself!

There are 2 seats for Armenians and one for each other minority: Assyrians, Jews and Zoroastrians. Given that the Bahá'í Faith is not recognized, they do not have seats in the parliament.

You can see clearly that Iran does not recognize Christians.

But Assyrians and Armenians are christians

Kolping:
The Northern elite are all related by blood. The more children and descendants they have from these bloodlines, the more people they have to occupy the positions of power in Nigeria in the future. They are the ruling class.

Emir Sanusi II had married the daughter of Lamido of Adamawa Muhammadu Barkindo-Mustafa, the traditional ruler in Adamawa State since 2010 and former chairman of the Federal Radio Corporation of Nigeria (2003–2005)

Mohammed Sanusi Barkindo (born in Yola, Adamawa State) is OPEC Secretary General since 2016 and served as Group Managing Director/Chief Executive Officer of NNPC (January 2009 - April 2010).

The Adamawa Emirate was founded in 1809 by the Fulani spiritual leader Modibbo Adama. He led a jihad into the region of Fombina (in modern-day Cameroon and Nigeria), opening the region for Fulani colonisation. As a result of Adama's constant warring, the Fulani today make up the largest ethnic group in Northern Cameroon (at more than 60% of the region's entire population, considering the fact that they weren't from the area), and Islam is now the dominant religion.

Same way the fulanis have become the largest and most influential tribe in the North-east, most influential in politics in Northern Nigeria and Nigeria at large.

Fulanis although a minority in Bauchi control the state completely, only them produce governor. They knew this would be hard for them in Gombe & Adamawa because of the larger & numerous christian tribes there, hence they decided to use islamic unity with muslims from other tribes to make sure the christians are suppressed.
They have tried so hard to take over Taraba, but Kwararafa kingdom will never let them.
They know they can never overtake Kanuris in Borno & Yobe, hence they don't mind leaving Boko Haram to overrun the place.

Naajjii:
Don't say Nigerians it's you people in the South especially Igbos. We respect ourselves here in the north. You people claim you are well educated and classy and think we are Aboki less educated but look at how you keep embarrassing yourselves not even in USA or German but countries like Ghana, Kenya, South Africa, Gabon, Liberia etc. Why can't you people respect yourselves.

You respect yourselves and promote perpetual poverty and backwardness right?

Do you know how much Nigerians (southernerns & middlebelters) abroad remit in cash to Nigeria annually? Both those involved in legal & illegal businesses abroad. Last year's remittance to Nigeria was estimated at about $21 billion. Without this remittance and yahoo boys money from abroad, Nigeria would have been on it's way in being as wretched as countries like Niger republic.

Deepthoughts:
The jukuns n the the Tivs are ordinarily not supposed to be fighting at least in this age but for the absence of proactive n effective leadership on both sides,I spent over a decade living in that axis so I know what I'm writing about,talk of experience,both ethic group need to understand that their common adversaries are the hausa/fulani,they are only playing into the hands of their common enemies by fighting themselves, it's not a suprise that the government response to crisis is always half-hearted.

The governor is a Jukun man and his wife is a Tiv. He is a confused man. If he favors the Tivs, his people will say he is a sellout and being controlled by his wife. That sort of ish.

payosehtor:
Jukuns should lean 2 accommodates the Tivs simple

Tivs do not respect their Jukun hosts and this is the problem in Taraba south. Tivs are expansionists. There are Jukun indigenes in Benue, but u will never hear them having problems with the Tiv majority there cos they know their boundaries.

GeoAfrikana:
Jukun. There's one military head that was a Jukun. I can't remember, someone should please remind me.

TY Danjuma.

Rotimi47:
We the Yorubas and Cuba as well as Brazil have a lot in common which I don't want to elaborate on due to certain reasons and we all know that Cuba is a very strong ally of Russia and as such Russia will be drawn into any conflict that involves cuba.

Try visit Osun festival that takes place once in a year and see the huge numbers of cubans amd Brazilians that visit Nigeria for the festival. This will give a little view of the relationship.

Why do you think israel do whatever they like despite the United Nations outcry? It's simply because thay have powerful lobby groups all over the world and the Yorubas have lobby groups that are almost similar to that.

I won't say more as you dont reveal your strategy or secret to your opponents.

If I tell you and fight come happen, wetin I go take fight you?

The Russians suffered this mistake at the begging of WW2 because Stalin showed Hitler the weapons that USSR have when he visited USSR before WW2 and that was what Nazi Germany first destroyed at the onset of the war.

Yoruba descendants in Cuba & Brazil are a minority in these nations. Infact, Black people as a whole are an impoverished minority in these latin American nations, so never you expect the white controlled government and bureaucracy to be involved in African ethnic wars.

hisexcellency34:
Bloody lie. Why can't Buhari win presidency three times with northern votes alone? If not for South West, he would have lost again in 2015

Without Yoruba votes in 2015, Buhari would have still won, do the calculations. It took the Yoruba + middlebelt votes to make Buhari win in 2015.

brainhgeek:

Like seriously? I only wish this is true. I lived in Abuja/Nasarawa for long years and I stayed in core north (kebbi) for a year. Muslims: Christians ratio is 50:50 in North Central apart from Plataue state where Christians are more.
However, for the sake of the minority in core north, I pray the state of the union is not compromised

What about Benue state that is like 98% christian?
See something, in Nasarawa for instance, christians are actually 60% of the population and not 50/50. In many parts of Nasarawa and other Northern christian areas, you do not find muslims in the rural areas. This is because a lot of the muslims you see are settlers in these places. This gives you the false impression that muslims are actually more in that area when actually they aren't.
When it is time for crisis, you do not expect people who live in a town to overpower the natives who have dozens of villages surrounding that town.

Have you heard of Tafawa Balewa town in Bauchi state? No mosque exists in that town and there are no muslims there currently. They were all chased out in 2011. Muslims (most of whom were settlers) were actually about ½ of the population or even majority in that town in the past and they started behaving uncontrollably, claiming ownership of the town, when crisis begun and different group of christian militia started coming into the town and attacking from the surrounding villages (which are overwhemingly christian), all the muslims had to flee and never return.

I am a northern christian, this is why I am telling you this.
In Kebbi state for instance, christians can never be evicted from the 4 LGAs that make up Zuru zone because christian indigenous tribes are actually the majority in those areas and control all the rural terrains. However, christians can easily be evicted from other parts of Kebbi state.

The problem only comes for a northern minority tribe where at least 40-50% of their own people are muslims and take sides with Hausa fulanis or even if the tribe is overwhelmingly christian but surrounded and completely cut off from other christian areas, like in the case of the Ngizim of Yobe state (who are mostly christian and actually own Potiskum, the largest town in Yobe state), but are completely surrounded by muslim tribes. These type can easily be evicted when crisis begin even though they control their rural areas.

brainhgeek:
Inasmuch as I desire a breakup too, I believe it is not in the best interest of some group of people. As a Christian, I will not advocate breakup for the sake of the Christians in northern Nigeria. The only defence most of them are still having against mass execution is the unity of this country. I will rather swallow my desires to be my brother's keeper.
Restructuring won't be a bad idea though

The only christians who can be evicted from their lands are native Hausa christians from the core north who are a minority and whose lands are controlled by the caliphate.

Christians cannot be evicted from the North-central, the North-east or Southern Kaduna in an all full-scale war because christians are the majority population in most of these areas they are found in the North.

Instead it would be the other way round in many parts of the Northcentral and North-east, muslims would be the ones to be evicted.

rawpadgin:
The mumu will soon be caught

Russia is not Africa where one easily gets away with murder

Russia is even more corrupt than Nigeria in many aspects. The guy could get away with it if he is rich, especially if the girl's family isn't as rich as he is.

Don't compare Russia with the West. Russia is only good when it comes to world politics and influence.

Kabir2Mohammad:
whenever they talk about middle belt they are referring to Xtians living there not the entire populace which if u subtract Benue the remaining two states Plateau and Taraba share almost equal population while the remaining are dominantly Muslims

Middlebelt is not about religion. It is about central Nigerian minority ethnic groups.

Torino234:
Kwara, Niger, plateau, nasarawa, kogi , Benue

Southern Kaduna, Taraba, FCT and parts of Adamawa are part and parcel of the middlebelt.
It is not synonymous with NC geopolitical zone, it is rather a classification of all central Nigeria's minority groups.

thinksense:
let me tell you the truth. they issue of middle belt is a religious thing. christian side with the south while muslim with the north. so this idiot calling himself middle belt leader we dont know him. I have never come accross this botanical name called isuwa.

kip your mouth short or we push u to join biafra piqs.
idiot.

up north
up nasarawa state
up arewa for real.

Funny enough, Dogo Isuwa is either from Nasarawa state or Southern Kaduna.... Isuwa is an Eggon/Mada name and his tribe is the largest tribe in Nasarawa state.

Cin rani, can you tell us what Nasarawa state tribal names sound like?

Celebsnews:
Islamization in Kogi state has made it more North than South.

I think you have a problem.
Oyo state has more muslims both in numbers and percentage than Kogi state, should this make Oyo a northern state?

Kogi state is more of a 50/50. Kogi west is like 80% christian, Kogi east is like 60% christian. It is Kogi central that is like 70% muslim.