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^^ Friend, next time, avoid the theatrics and advertising that you attended high school and can write. you ought have gone straight to the point and wished me good luck seeing as that's all can be gleaned from your presence here.

Btw, thanks for the kind wishes.

Obviously, your preference would be that you be considered an equal or same as God, right?

Wow, what a brilliantly informed view! I'm clapping for you here using my arse- cheeks.

I know an amazingly large number of NL members due to business but of recent have made acquaintance of some of the people that I have respect for most and they usually are found in this section.

Jo, I would wish to meet you but I wonder just how sincere you are with this capability to turn everything upside down. Here you have again said you only said we don't act like christians.

WHO are YOU to judge, Jo, based on your own words? Up above, you have told us how a servant should be left to his master. So what gave you power to judge the "motives", "ideas" and "perceptions of my actions?

So again, I ask you, do you not see the duplicity in your actions? For as Image123 earlier said (and edited out), everything you try to protect in pastor chris is what you blame in others. Consider ESPECIALLY the Apostle James. And lets leave naira, income and bread, your guy has nothing on that revered and SCRIPTURE CONFIRMED Servant of God.

@Jesoul,

please forgive me for this interruption.

@Jo:

Over and over, you have said myself and Kunle are not Christians. Yet above you say once a man says Jesus is his Lord, he is Christian. And I know you have read us both claim Christ as our Lord.

Does this not smack of dishonesty in you? Why do you shift the post now you're being called out on false ministers? Or is it only pastors that are christians?

Misleading if not provocative!

I breed table catfish and the next time anyone here decides to visit me, will take a couple and cut them up as table fare. Would I (and guest) then be mass-murderers? Well, maybe from the point of view of the fish but would anyone here agree with them?

Why can't we be honest for once? How do you wish to compare God (creator) to a "mother" who accompanies on a theiving spree. Does not the OWNER have right over His property?

^ I assure you that was your fault for staying under the radar. And we plenty well well that'll be more than delighted to meet you,

In effect, add me to the list.

@DS:

If you'll agree to non-disclosure and to reciprocate, xe------@gmail will receive clear views of the eyes. Deal?

Chei!

Now its confirmed. Its either you're satan himself or at the least a "winch - man".

Replace the twinkling eyes with sad cruel ones, portly with just the rotund belly (they've not delivered my girdle yet), "very" yoruba with yoruba and I think you scored 100%

@Aunty eyzhvntsn:

Whats with the tears? Wetin shele?

Pleasure was mine

Remix? You wan make who get sense start to dey cry? This has got to be one of the most revealing threads on NL ever.

I start to see why business churches prosper so much. My people truly perish for lack of knowledge. But as it continues "because you have rejected knowledge, therefore will I also reject you" showing the author considers such a deliberate decision to remain in darkness.

[size=4pt]I no know say people fit off their brain like this[/size]

@Jo:

Please forgive Kunle's interruption and answer Jesoul's questions replicated thus -

JeSoul:
Q1: what about false teachers/prophets/pastors? how do you handle the issue of false brethren in the midst of the church? how do you recognize a man/woman is truly not of God and do you speak out on it? expose the person as a wolf in sheeps clothing? or if not why?

Q2: Related to Q1. Do you believe there are false churches out there? what should be the body's attitude to them? hostile or indifferent? do you believe we have/don't have an obligation to speak out against them?

Pleaseeeeeeeee! Jo ought be allowed to show what he truly is. And he's gotten to it rather quickly and without fear too.

Lets allow him show himself

@Toba,

read Krayola's post and Aletheia's too. Not everything is always what it seems to be and its really sad when we can't apply our minds. This was a particularly embarrassing thread   I may not agree with AIO's belief system but I never put my brain on hold.

And some people, I would never deserve except in a particularly nasty nightmare.

Cheers bro.

Not really. Not sure me deserve the great Tpia. Twould be a demotion for you

Thanks, but I'm taken.

;d :d

@Toba:

you know I've repented abi? And that I never back down except for those I like.

I like mummy too much plus I also know my size. Twould not be fair for "orun to yabo". There was never any need anyway. I just thought intelligence had another way to look at what was posted and I've been vindicated so shame no catch me.

The true test of character is not how much we know how to do, but how we behave when we don't know what to do. - John Holt

This thread shows 2 people for what they are.

To One, I say

You're over the hill, thats why you're picking up speed. - Charles Schulz

To the Other, I say

Half the money time I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is I don't know which half. - John Wanamaker. But I suspect you know which half on this thread!

@Kunleoshob:

Give and it shall be given unto you, full measure, shaken together and running over.

His Oga has stolen Multi-millions. He MUST be insulted, reviled, despised and disgraced to that same tune of Multi-millions. thats why Jo is doing it. He is bringing chris to Judgment.

@Jo:

So now you return to the words of King David and Isaiah, people whom you said are learning from you and you are teaching from them. Does that alone not show you have problems with consistency? If you are consistent, only the words of Paul (not even Jesus) are Scriptural.

BTW, prosperity is not only Naira or success or beauty etc. Mother Theresa prospered even though she was not pentecostal. Divine health is not prosperity except if you wish to say the Apostle Paul did not prosper since he had an affliction in the flesh.

You and your chris ought go back to sunday school and start over. Life is not about Naira.

@Image123:

Yes O. I know the truth about God's plan for His children so why should I bother with what gives no value to the true Gospel. Maybe if anyone can find a way to show Adam's tithing or how that was tied to his prosperity, it will make sense. Abi somebody wants to tell me Adam didn't prosper in the Garden? or that it was tithes that prospered him.

@Tpia:

You really misunderstood me. Twas all a joke about the warfare issue though both of you poked each other in the ribs a bit. And I had/have no problems with you or him which is why I called you both "revered". On asking him, I note that many threads point to him NOT being an Ifa adherent/occultist but rather a student/study pupil of the concept. Which is why I asked the question. It may take awhile but eventually AIO will show his hand (motive) and most will be suprised what all this is in aid of.

For your purposes though, I stand corrected and will await my vindication though PASTOR is notoriously lazy when it comes to vindicating people. I wager he'd rather bast and fry me.

^^ better don't mind the 2 revered combatants above. Venus, goddess of love and Poseidon of the waters. My crystal ball tells me they are secretly in love and this is a mating dance.

@Pastor - are you truly an IFA adherent/practitioner or you just read it and so have the knowledge you have?

@Tpia - did you ever consider Oga is just an overtly avid reader and not the occultist you seem to believe?

Anyways, its always nice to see Titans clash. I only wish Medusa was in the mix but no be me go give person THAT name

[size=3pt]yes, thats the one. and I'm in town so yes, lets meet up.

I remember the days of maven when I thought you were female. It used to be you and Jesoul. And I said I thought you ought marry Viaro - you two together would have birthed red-letter versions of the Bible.

But you became male and Jesoul stood alone till Eyzhvntsn came in.

So now, I'll meet a "legend".[/size]

Please pass on my email addy to him. Twould make my day he writes me. And NL would profit were he to return here - you could also tell him I now avoid "tithe" discussions

I think Aletheia is not finished yet and there's something more he's leading up towards.

@DS:

I respect your non-belief and truth is that in this case, what really matters is mine and Jo-boy's beliefs. Since we both subscribe (at least in mouth if not deed), its us in judgment.

You will notice the windbag made NO attempt to answer the questions. He just deftly side-stepped the meat of the matter now he's being called out and tried to turn this into an emotional issue. I can just see his mentors, the Pharisees gnasking their teeth when Jesus called them hypocrites and white-washed coffins.

As to the Christ thingy, I use the word interchangably with His overall purpose on earth. Being something and one day officially manifesting it is what we're about. Christ ALWAYS was what He is today. That is the Biblical position. It is deliberate twistings like this that ensure Christians are seen as deluded. The Gospel is quite simple. But if they don't find complications to insert in scripture, followership will dwindle and so will income.

The Holy Spirit is omnipresent and thus is in heaven whist also being on earth. Except of course, Jo's belief is that chris is the HS. Which would not suprise me

^^ You've been missing in action for a long while, Ma'am. I hope you have been well.

Granted we seem to agree that repairing the ravages of the ages is our primary function HERE, I think maybe e36991 ought complete his theses at this point before we go further.

I personally would then be interested in learning more, the experiences "Christians" go through before understanding their role. I believe there exists a startling similarity in terms of "upbringing" by God which puts one in the frame of mind where such starts to despise worldly standards of hoarding money, taking all you can get, being a drain on society etc and becomes one who desires to "repair".

Sadly, this kind of thread would be avoided by the exact people who ought keep quiet for once and learn. But I wonder if it is not that they see truth but remain resolute to their stomachs. Truly, fruit shows who you are.

^^ So what if the Holy Spirit abides with us forever? Does that then mean He has been banned from Heaven? Would you say then that when you die, the Holy Spirit will be buried with you since He is with you forever?  What manner of thought processes produces this tripe? Absolute thinkless - ness!

Please answer us then

(1) If 2, 000 people become christians tomorrow and receive the Holy Spirit, where will that Holy Spirit come from?

a] Heaven (God, Christ and the Holy Spirit's official domain)
b] Floating around homeless on the earth like an Abiku
c] Inside Chris Embassy

(2) If the Holy Spirit is God, AND you say it is omnipresent, how come it is only on earth?

The the moronic DAFT idea that Jesus became Christ the day He received the Holy Spirit  This is more than idiocy- it is insanity. The BIBLE SAYS - "In the BEGINNING was the WORD and the WORD was with God and the WORD was GOD!" "He came unto His own and they knew Him not." "He was manifested in the Flesh."

Yet you are telling us we are to believe that the WORD only became Christ when He was baptised directly contrary to GOD's OWN WORD that says Jesus was GOD from the beginning, 

What exactly is wrong that makes it so difficult to accept that pastor chris can be wrong? Is He God? Why not stop assailing us with this undefendable tripe that makes you have to start saying rubbish because it shown as nonsense? Rubbish served with insult!

And what is it with this solidarity issue that no matter what Joagbaje says, people jump in to support him. At times, adults should have their trousers taken down and a horse-whip applied to their bare bottoms.

@Joagbaje:

Strong meat ko, rotten dog ni!

Your first post said NOT to pray for strength but just to declare it. But now, you gently backpedal and say "SOME" prayers have already been answered. So its some strength not ALL strength. The point is that you are dishonest and patently a fraud. Why are you changing it now that the "virgins" allegory has shown you up? and of course, you come against James, a true Apostle VERIFIED by the Word of God as a true servant of God whist trying to glorify your charlatan.

The truth is that your chris and yourself are the baby christians for whom Christianity is profit. Think about it - All the apostles started off fleshly, money, power, miracles etc. That was what occupied them at the start. But when they matured and came to fulness in Christ, they dropped the money/power thing and even despised such. They GAVE their lives to doing God's Word, not enriching their pockets or seeking miraculous events.

It is PASTOR CHRIS and YOU that are baby (and poison-filled) Christians. Thats if you even know God. Foolish Virgin love-peddler!

^^ I really start to get you now, Image123 and I like what I see

Image123:
The truth is that faith is most important in prayer, not the structure of words used. There are so many "I'm strong", "There's a lot of money on me" confessions that are empty and even annoying.

Every one that asketh receiveth still works today. I am healed, we were healed, heal me o Lord, they ALL work. Stop this your i'm right, others are wrong doctrines.
And btw, there will be foolish virgins in that day, not all wise virgins.

The italicised bolded is a very unfortunate part of the shows called church today.

AND the just bolded is BRILLIANT analogy for this thread - I clap for you.

There WILL be foolish christians virgins on that day, not all wise christians virgins! And what happened to such foolish virgins will happen again. Such are called FOOLISH by the Lord of Life Himself, not Jo and not chris. Thus the APOSTLE JAMES was 100% right saying "if you lack, ASK". Because obviously, anyone called foolish YET A VIRGIN CHRISTIAN by JESUS Himself definitely lacks wisdom even though they are virgins.

How a supposed man of God can write some of the things we see here beats me. Poisonous just as you say, Image. Or maybe just a foolish virgin himself spouting words written by another foolish virgin.

Again, I doff my cap for your simple analogy that destroys all that rubbish & restores life to those who want it and read the tripe above.

@e36991:

Your post above! I've read it about 3 times now and thats because I wonder concerning the scope and applicability of our subject matter here. I think you're right but you're looking at the big picture whist I think myself and Inesqor are looking at "EARTH".

True, some angels went down but there may or may not be a need to fill their ranks back. I believe God can/will perform His judgments Himself. The idea of "know we not that we judge the angels", I seem to understand differently. I see it as Paul saying His (and Christians) conducts/worship/trials/tribulations will be used as a marker for judgment but tacit support for the "accused" would not help such case. In effect, stop seeming to be on his side by being like satan, was what Paul was saying.

I agree with the message of your post but I think "qualifications" and life style is where I'm really about for the purposes of this thread. BTW, where did "Modamo" get such gory videos + where's the link to the heroin issue?

@Inesqor:

Remember the issue where I said I tend to prefer using my words rather than Scripture because the "twisters" shame Scripture? Thats the only difference between our posts - You use scripture to explain it whist I used nuclearboy language. We said the same thing!

Now, where is Aletheia? And Satan DeepSight? And of course, twould be really nice to hear the business version of events in Heaven and Christianity! But THOSE people never have anything real to say when "truth" is discussed!

@Tpia:

Chei! What Bible translation do you use or wth did you get the "dull" thing?

And na Pastor you dey try so? I fear you O