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KunleOshob:
Why don't you give me a single bible verse which says christians should tithe money from their income.

MrPrsdent:
What you need is a reality check

MrPrsdent:
what of the life of Abacha,Boko Haram etc. This your idea get K-leg

KunleOshob:
Any pastor that preaches compulsry or mandatory tithing is most definitely a fake i guess this would eliminate all pentecostal and word of faithfraud"" pastors.

MrPrsdent:
If nigerian politicians/military dictators had been aborted ,the country would be a better place today.

So abortion is alright in some instances

rotimy:
I REJOICE WITH THE CHURCH THAT IS MARCHING ON! BUT ONLY FEW ARE MARCHING ON THE NARROW WAY WHILE OTHERS ARE MARCHING AIMLESSLY AT THE BROAD WAY!

aletheia:
How many have you performed? And I mean real miracles not psychosomatic afflictions.

chinedumo:
u ar required by love to speak the truth in love . do not be given to flattery. speak the truth in your heart and to your neighbour do not lie and call that love pls. Jesus loves the sinner but hates the sin. Jesus told peter before the cock crows twice u will deny me trice. this might contradict some peoples positive/optimistic doctrine. but to be fore warn is to be fore armed. Dont allow your brother to perish in hell b4 u tell him the truth but also be open minded and not dogmatic too

Tonye-t:
Kunle you'll never change.

Kunle my brother the things we see in churches today really gat me thinking if we actually do know what it means to LOVE. Someone who professes to be a brother(brethren) will rather choose to loan cash to outsiders(unbelievers) with the hope of getting it back and with interests rather than giving a brother who desperately needs it to help his dieing wife in the hospital.

A friend of mine lost his wife on saturday becos his friend and "professed/church acclaimed brother" would rather choose to give it out. i went offshores and came back to discover this. And men i havent been myself all day.

To me Christians are just pretenders. WE DO NOT KNOW THE TINIEST MEANING OF THE WORD "LOVE".

Arté:
Nuella I did now lol Prosperity in the godly sense is living a christ-like life, growing in the spirit and leading a life that blesses and touches others, pointing them back to God. Who do we look to for example other than Jesus himself? what was his life like?
Of course not. But YOU tried to highlight Abraham as the standard for how God wants us all to be rich and I pointed out that there were many "christians" who were poor.
No, salvation is not a "package". It is simply what is says in John 3:16 - That whoever believes in Jesus will not perish but be saved. That is salvation.

Arté:
Abraham is just ONE of thousands of credited men/women of faith in the bible. There are countless others who were 'poor', sick, struggled and died terrible deaths whom God approved of. Most especially look at the lives of the prophets, were they materially rich? or was it infact just the opposite?

God's idea of prosperity is most evident in the life of His son whom He sent. Was Jesus rich? did he go about preaching prosperity? did he seek to accumulate possessions and fancy cars? Infact what did he tell that rich young man to do? to give away all his wealth!
 
  If we are to be christians - which means christ-like, which means to live as Jesus did, why are you chasing after wealth and prosperity when Jesus himself didn't? Jesus only concern was "doing his father's business" and being pleasing to God and we should be and seek the same.

Arté:
I am scared of people according to the persuations of Joagbaje. That even when truth is staring you dead in the face, you prefer to look to the left and continue in falsehood.

If you read the article, it is not calling for christians to live in poverty or to be materially poor. It is saying to strive not to be materially rich, but to seek joy and satisfaction in GOD, in the pursuit of knowing and understanding Him and His ways - not in physical wealth and comfort.

God wants us to prosper[color=#770077][/color], He wants good for us as the scriptures teach, but we misunderstand what the word is truly saying because our definition of prosperity is so different from His, our definition of good, is so different from His.

KunleOshob:
Christian giving is strictly giving to meet the needs of those in need be it , christian, pastor, muslim or pagan. As long as they are need it is our christian obligation to help. I am sure TB. Joshua would not be asking if the people he is helping in Haiti are christians before he assists them and God would still bless him for it. If you really want to know what christian giving as taught by christ is go and read matthew 25:31-40 agian in it's proper context without forcing the pre-conceived notions you have been poisoned with into it but try and receive what christ is really trying to say there.

Even the early church collections was for the poor and needy contrary to what pastors practise today claiming church collections is for "running the church" which effectively means it is for the pastor especially in one man pentecostal churches were there is no accountablity. Another typical example of christian giving [even in church] is posted below:

Acts 4:32-35:
32 All the believers were united in heart and mind. And they felt that what they owned was not their own, so they shared everything they had. 33 The apostles testified powerfully to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and God’s great blessing was upon them all. 34 There were no needy people among them, because those who owned land or houses would sell them 35 and bring the money to the apostles to give to those in need.

Acts 2:44-46:
44 And all the believers met together in one place and shared everything they had. 45 They sold their property and possessions and shared the money with those in need. 46 They worshiped together at the Temple each day, met in homes for the Lord’s Supper, and shared their meals with great joy and generosity

How many churches follow the examples set by the original church established by the direct apsotles of christ himself before the tainted version of christianity most churches are practising today.

KunleOshob:
Again you try to quote that scripture out of context, Jesus was preaching giving to the poor and the needy in that passage and not giving to his followers, so please don't twist

Bros stp trying to be dis-honest you know as much as i know that the above passage as absolutely nothing to do with giving to pastors or even christians, it was to do with giving to the poor and the needy which is what true christian giving is all about

Even thoug there are examples of people giving to the apostles in the new testament, it was never taught as christian giving. Christian giving should be what we were taught or instructed to do NOT every example of giving we fing in the bible. Giving to a pastor who is not in need is certainly not christian giving but giving to a person out of appreciation or delusion.

Abu Zola:
Idiots and fool are the followers of joshua, you belong there. Can't your brain function for once, why didn't he heal yaradua, fake fake fake