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Christianity Etc › Re: Rhapsody Of Realities: A Daily Devotional by nuella2(f): 6:07pm On Mar 02, 2010

thank you for creating this thread, it has being a blessing

Christianity Etc › Re: Word Of Faith:what Is Faith? by nuella2(f): 2:56pm On Feb 23, 2010

No christian is deity like God to receive worship,praise and adoration and will never be in that class. And deities are also immortal which we have not yet achieved, until christ comes. When a christian say he is god he do not mean people should worship him like God almighty. But he is talking about the nature he has which is supernatural(his spirit been recreated after the image of God) that make him god, like the bible say, but not God almighty. Is a class that the christian belong to, which is superior to the natural man(non believer) because of the holy ghost that resides in him. But not deity in the sense like God almighty, to know all things and create maybe a new sun, NO. But it means we are sons of the most high. No christian will ever think of becoming God almighty that will mean he has the nature of the devil, who wanted to be like God almighty to recieve praise and adored.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Faith (''non-wof Believers'') by nuella2(f): 2:24pm On Feb 23, 2010

what do you mean by Deity like God. God is almighty, not even Jesus is God almighty, he is head of the Godhead. So not deity in that sense. What i mean in am not natural cos God gave birth to me, my spirit have been recreated in his likeness. No human is in the class of God to receive worship and adoration as God. But we carry the supernational and will become immortal when christ comes. So am not diety as God almighty who created me. But am born of the supernatural(God) cos the greater one is in me so am not natural like every other man.

Christianity Etc › Re: Five Ways To Identify Fake Pastors by nuella2(f): 2:04pm On Feb 23, 2010

KunleOshob:
Why don't you give me a single bible verse which says christians should tithe money from their income.

Haha lol, i asked a question that deserve an answer broz, you said a pastor that teaches people to tithe is fake abi, give my bible reference simple.

Christianity Etc › Re: Five Ways To Identify Fake Pastors by nuella2(f): 1:53pm On Feb 23, 2010

MrPrsdent:
What you need is a reality check

I was not referring to you president. Give my a bible verse period.

Christianity Etc › Re: What To Do If My Pastor's Very Attractive Wife Coms On To Me? by nuella2(f): 1:49pm On Feb 23, 2010

run away

Christianity Etc › Re: Abortion: Same As Murder? by nuella2(f): 1:44pm On Feb 23, 2010

MrPrsdent:
what of the life of Abacha,Boko Haram etc. This your idea get K-leg

Which k-leg, God do not hate man put the sin and its his desire that people get save and know him. So God will not support aborting Abacha.

Christianity Etc › Re: Five Ways To Identify Fake Pastors by nuella2(f): 1:39pm On Feb 23, 2010

KunleOshob:
Any pastor that preaches compulsry or mandatory tithing is most definitely a fake i guess this would eliminate all pentecostal and word of ~~faith~~fraud"" pastors.

Give me a bible reference that if a pastor teach tithe is fake.

Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk About Faith (''non-wof Believers'') by nuella2(f): 1:34pm On Feb 23, 2010

The holy ghost resides in me, i have the life of christ, am born of God, i do what natural men(non believers) cant do. Am i just a man? certainly another class of man.

Christianity Etc › Re: Abortion: Same As Murder? by nuella2(f): 1:26pm On Feb 23, 2010

Abortion is murder. And is a sin.

MrPrsdent:
If nigerian politicians/military dictators had been aborted ,the country would be a better place today.

So abortion is alright in some instances

Making this country great is not just dependent on our leaders. What of the citizens that are not law abiding, as simple as wear helmet, using seat belts how many comply. No human has the right to take a life he cannot create.

Christianity Etc › Re: Five Ways To Identify Fake Pastors by nuella2(f): 1:10pm On Feb 23, 2010

if your teaching anything about christianity please keep biblical references. The bible talks about false teachers and prophets and anti-christs. And biblical teachings how to know them. Bible also talk about false brethren too.
1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Seven Ways to Test False Prophets:
1. By their confession of Jesus (1 John 4:2-3)
2. Their relationship with the world (1 John 4:5; 1 John 2:15-17; James 4:4)
3. How they receive Christianity (1 John 4:6)
4. Their attitude toward the commandments of God (1 John 4:6; 1 John 3:20-24; John 14:15)
5. Love of the brethren (1 John 4:7-21; 1 John 3:11-16; John 13:34-35; John 15:12-15)
6. The indwelling Holy Spirit (1 John 4:4-6)
7. The Word of God (1 John 4:6; 1 John 5:10; 2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Cor. 4

A false teacher is not known by head knowledge put through the holy ghost and comparing his teachings with the bible.

Christianity Etc › Re: Congrats Pastor Agbaje, Goodluck Jonathan Now The Acting President Of Nigeria. by nuella2(f): 12:53pm On Feb 18, 2010

Jesus loves me i died for me, nobody loves me like Jesus. Thy lord is good all the time, lets share the grace in fellowship.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Pastors I Respect Most In Nigeria. by nuella2(f): 12:48pm On Feb 18, 2010

rotimy:
I REJOICE WITH THE CHURCH THAT IS MARCHING ON! BUT ONLY FEW ARE MARCHING ON THE NARROW WAY WHILE OTHERS ARE MARCHING AIMLESSLY AT THE BROAD WAY!

The church is marching on and the gates of hell cannot stop it. That men disapprove a man do not mean God disapprove him. Since i was born i have not seen God been stopped by men.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Miracles Of Christ Were Immediate But Our Pastors' Own Happens Later. Why? by nuella2(f): 12:23pm On Feb 18, 2010

aletheia:
How many have you performed? And I mean real miracles not psychosomatic afflictions.

I asked a question that deserve an ans, if you are a christian and you are angry about miracles that are not instanteneous, i ask how many have you performed? abi you are serving a different God?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Miracles Of Christ Were Immediate But Our Pastors' Own Happens Later. Why? by nuella2(f): 12:07pm On Feb 18, 2010

What is wrong if you perform the immediate miracles or you dont believe in miracles? Since every christian is to perform miracles not only pastors. What are you guys waiting for?

Christianity Etc › Re: I Am An Asset To The World; Use Me – Tb Joshua by nuella2(f): 11:47am On Feb 18, 2010

What a blessing you are sir. Am glad you came at such a time(my generation)

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Will You Spend Eternity? by nuella2(f): 11:32am On Feb 18, 2010

With God in new earth.

Christianity Etc › Re: Does Religion Really Matter In A Relationship? by nuella2(f): 11:27am On Feb 18, 2010

God comes first before self, therefore any relationship that will hinder me from serving God is cancelled. For me and my house we will serve the lord. We dont live by feelings but by faith in God, my life in not my own so HE decided by his word. Light and darkness, how na? Never!!!

Christianity Etc › Re: What's Your Favorite Name For God? by nuella2(f): 4:15pm On Feb 17, 2010

my father

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is On The Side Of Love? by nuella2(f): 3:54pm On Feb 17, 2010

chinedumo:
u ar required by love to speak the truth in love . do not be given to flattery. speak the truth in your heart and to your neighbour do not lie and call that love pls. Jesus loves the sinner but hates the sin. Jesus told peter before the cock crows twice u will deny me trice. this might contradict some peoples positive/optimistic doctrine. but to be fore warn is to be fore armed. Dont allow your brother to perish in hell b4 u tell him the truth but also be open minded and not dogmatic too

Whatever you want to tell your brother should be done in love, even preaching to a sinner should be done in love and not condemnation. I didnt say people should not speak the truth( the word of God) Is a man that dont have love that will let his brother go to hell.

Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is On The Side Of Love? by nuella2(f): 3:33pm On Feb 17, 2010

[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=399717.msg5530883#msg5530883 date=1266413332]Kunle you'll never change. cheesy

Kunle my brother the things we see in churches today really gat me thinking if we actually do know what it means to LOVE. Someone who professes to be a brother(brethren) will rather choose to loan cash to outsiders(unbelievers) with the hope of getting it back and with interests rather than giving a brother who desperately needs it to help his dieing wife in the hospital.

A friend of mine lost his wife on saturday becos his friend and "professed/church acclaimed brother" would rather choose to give it out. i went offshores and came back to discover this. And men i havent been myself all day. cry

To me Christians are just pretenders. WE DO NOT KNOW THE TINIEST MEANING OF THE WORD "LOVE".[/quote]@ Tonye do you mean some christians are pretenders or all christians including YOU? I think walking in love is what christianity stands for, especially the brethren. It surprises me when christians starts hating and abusing each other , i ask is this love? the love of christ is beyond imagination, some christians prefer to be friends with satanists rather than a believer that has embraced the gospel bc of some differences. When christ said we should pray for our enemies. When we stand before God we shall give account, tHE COMMISSION he gave was for us to win souls. It takes love to go out and preach christ to the unsaved. I seriously think christians should walk in love, so people can see we are really the followers of christ. How do someone exhibit so much hadred in front of an unsaved person and win that person to christ? The sign of spiritual maturity is LOVE. The church of Jesus christ really need to walk in love, we are to do good to people especially to believers. The message of christ is a message of love.

Christianity Etc › Re: "Most Christians Infected With Prosperity Gospel" by nuella2(f): 5:01pm On Feb 12, 2010

Jesus became poor so that you will remain poor? a thousand times no.
2 Cor. 8:9
For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
Is for your sake that he was poor so what is wrong in telling a christian that part of the benefit of believing the gospel of our lord Jesus christ.

Christianity Etc › Re: "Most Christians Infected With Prosperity Gospel" by nuella2(f): 4:51pm On Feb 12, 2010

[quote author=Arté link=topic=396980.msg5502260#msg5502260 date=1265988062]Nuella I did now lol Prosperity in the godly sense is living a christ-like life, growing in the spirit and leading a life that blesses and touches others, pointing them back to God. Who do we look to for example other than Jesus himself? what was his life like?
Of course not. But YOU tried to highlight Abraham as the standard for how God wants us all to be rich and I pointed out that there were many "christians" who were poor.
No, salvation is not a "package". It is simply what is says in John 3:16 - That whoever believes in Jesus will not perish but be saved. That is salvation.[/quote]So how do we touch and bless others. Was Jesus needy on earth? He was not begging as people where giving to him
Luke 8:3
And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance. If you say Abraham is not the standard then why are we the seeds of Ahraham? What kind of life did this righteous, prosperous man live. He was blesseth to be a blessing, he was blessed with what? gold,silver,camels name it. The man was wealthy my dear. Jesus died so we can be saved, healed and prosperous, thats is goodnews.

Christianity Etc › Re: How Do We Pray Over Meal: Bless This Food Oh Lord! by nuella2(f): 4:35pm On Feb 12, 2010

Father, in the name of Jesus. Thank you for the provision of this meal. AMEN.

Christianity Etc › Re: "Most Christians Infected With Prosperity Gospel" by nuella2(f): 4:09pm On Feb 12, 2010

[quote author=Arté link=topic=396980.msg5502011#msg5502011 date=1265986185]Abraham is just ONE of thousands of credited men/women of faith in the bible. There are countless others who were 'poor', sick, struggled and died terrible deaths whom God approved of. Most especially look at the lives of the prophets, were they materially rich? or was it infact just the opposite?

God's idea of prosperity is most evident in the life of His son whom He sent. Was Jesus rich? did he go about preaching prosperity? did he seek to accumulate possessions and fancy cars? Infact what did he tell that rich young man to do? to give away all his wealth!

If we are to be christians - which means christ-like, which means to live as Jesus did, why are you chasing after wealth and prosperity when Jesus himself didn't? Jesus only concern was "doing his father's business" and being pleasing to God and we should be and seek the same.[/quote]You didnt answer my question o? what is prosperity? I dont preach prosperity but i preach salvation, in salvation is properity and and healing. Should i preach sickness and povery because some christians were sick and poor in the bible. Let God be true, i will take Gods report not man.
2 Cor. 8:9
For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
Isaiah 53:5
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Because Timothy was sick do not mean we should preach that people remain sick.

SALVATION IS A PACKAGE THAT INCLUDE PROSPERITY, HEALTH, PEACE, JOY AND ABOVE ALL THE SAVING OF A MAN(SINNER).

Christianity Etc › Re: "Most Christians Infected With Prosperity Gospel" by nuella2(f): 3:26pm On Feb 12, 2010

[quote author=Arté link=topic=396980.msg5501335#msg5501335 date=1265979795]I am scared of people according to the persuations of Joagbaje. That even when truth is staring you dead in the face, you prefer to look to the left and continue in falsehood.

If you read the article, it is not calling for christians to live in poverty or to be materially poor. It is saying to strive not to be materially rich, but to seek joy and satisfaction in GOD, in the pursuit of knowing and understanding Him and His ways - not in physical wealth and comfort.

God wants us to prosper[color=#770077][/color], He wants good for us as the scriptures teach, but we misunderstand what the word is truly saying because our definition of prosperity is so different from His, our definition of good, is so different from His.[/quote]So how do God proper us? He prospered Abraham?(AND HE BECAME VERY GREAT)WHY? Was he SICK? BARREN? So what is your definition of PROPERITY.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christians Lets Discuss - The Law Of Seedtime And Harvest Time by nuella2(f): 3:07pm On Feb 12, 2010

KunleOshob:
Christian giving is strictly giving to meet the needs of those in need be it , christian, pastor, muslim or pagan. As long as they are need it is our christian obligation to help. I am sure TB. Joshua would not be asking if the people he is helping in Haiti are christians before he assists them and God would still bless him for it. If you really want to know what christian giving as taught by christ is go and read matthew 25:31-40 agian in it's proper context without forcing the pre-conceived notions you have been poisoned with into it but try and receive what christ is really trying to say there.

Even the early church collections was for the poor and needy contrary to what pastors practise today claiming church collections is for "running the church" which effectively means it is for the pastor especially in one man pentecostal churches were there is no accountablity. Another typical example of christian giving [even in church] is posted below:

Acts 4:32-35:
32 All the believers were united in heart and mind. And they felt that what they owned was not their own, so they shared everything they had. 33 The apostles testified powerfully to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and God’s great blessing was upon them all. 34 There were no needy people among them, because those who owned land or houses would sell them 35 and bring the money to the apostles to give to those in need.

Acts 2:44-46:
44 And all the believers met together in one place and shared everything they had. 45 They sold their property and possessions and shared the money with those in need. 46 They worshiped together at the Temple each day, met in homes for the Lord’s Supper, and shared their meals with great joy and generosity

How many churches follow the examples set by the original church established by the direct apsotles of christ himself before the tainted version of christianity most churches are practising today.

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I never said we should not give to the poor. My point remains that when you give to the poor, needy, to pastor, brethren you have done it to christ. so ALL givings in the bible are christian givings. I dont think all collections were for the poor and needy, so the running of the church is for who? And the workers in the lords vineyard should be begging?
1 Cor. 9:13
[color=#990000]Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

Christianity Etc › Re: Christians Lets Discuss - The Law Of Seedtime And Harvest Time by nuella2(f): 1:45pm On Feb 12, 2010

Again you try to quote that scripture out of context, Jesus was preaching giving to the poor and the needy in that passage and not giving to his followers, so please don't twist it.

KunleOshob:
Again you try to quote that scripture out of context, Jesus was preaching giving to the poor and the needy in that passage and not giving to his followers, so please don't twist

Bros stp trying to be dis-honest you know as much as i know that the above passage as absolutely nothing to do with giving to pastors or even christians, it was to do with giving to the poor and the needy which is what true christian giving is all about

Even thoug there are examples of people giving to the apostles in the new testament, it was never taught as christian giving. Christian giving should be what we were taught or instructed to do NOT every example of giving we fing in the bible. Giving to a pastor who is not in need is certainly not christian giving but giving to a person out of appreciation or delusion.

Pls give me a verse that explains christian givings. Is a pastor not a christian? Are they not part of the body of christ? Weda i christian is needy or not, when you give you have done it to christ. You dont wait until someone is needy before you give.
Luke 6:38
Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

Christianity Etc › Re: "Most Christians Infected With Prosperity Gospel" by nuella2(f): 12:37pm On Feb 12, 2010

@viora
A man that has christ is already rich, Jesus came so we can be saved i know. But it is my fault that he also became poor so i might be rich and that by his wounds am healed. So should i just shout am saved and not shout am rich and healed?

Christianity Etc › Re: Christians Lets Discuss - The Law Of Seedtime And Harvest Time by nuella2(f): 12:22pm On Feb 12, 2010

None of the scriptures you quoted above implies that giving to pastors = giving to Jesus. Even though i have not said we should not give to pastors but the focus of our christian giving should be to those genuinely in need, be it pastor or any body else. It's okay if you give to your pastor to show appreciation but don't mistake that as christian giving or giving to christ.

Matthew 25:36
Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Matthew 25:43
I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Anything you give to a follower of christ, you have given to christ.

Christianity Etc › Re: Tb Joshua Is A Country by nuella2(f): 12:09pm On Feb 12, 2010

Abu Zola:
Idiots and fool are the followers of joshua, you belong there. Can't your brain function for once, why didn't he heal yaradua, fake fake fake

LOL, funny. All things are possible to them that believe. My God is not a magician but needs your faith. So yaradua want my God to heal him(muslim).

Christianity Etc › Re: "Most Christians Infected With Prosperity Gospel" by nuella2(f): 11:48am On Feb 12, 2010

@Viora
A man that has recieved the gospel of our lord Jesus christ is not a poor man. Poverty is not just the lack of money but a mentality. A mentality of helplessness. Joseph was not poor in prison, he had God(DREAMS ALSO).A poor man is an hopeless man(without God), he cannot help another person.

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