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what do you say about the fact that alot of pple fast cos they think, fasting makes them holy enough for God to answer their prayers. Does fasting contribute in God answering our prayers or it helps us to recieve answers to our prayers.

AbuHanifa:
If christianity doesn't work for why not try the supreme alternative, ISLAM!

FROM LIGHT TO DARKNESS? NEVER!

Congratulations and amen o.

@ poster

You could not call the name of your church, why? But you called the name of another church. My question is' are you born again' if you are do you know the importance of what christ did for you? Are you convinced and fully persuaded that Jesus is the ONLY way to the father. So how on earth can you lose faith because of what you think is not right.

I think you should ask yourself serious questions, if you want to lose faith for such a matter, if you see gun on your head you go curse jesus na.  Jesus christ shed his blood for you it was not a joke and you will give account of that remember. There is no perfect church anywhere, cos church is really not the building but the christians. We are all walking towards perfection.

When you stand before God, its just you and him. He will ask you personal question, no excuses then. So if you like, turn to a free thinker. Christianity is a personal race, even though we have people inspiring us in the race. I will sincerely say, you make up your mind to finish the race like paul. Cos life without christ is a life of crisis. The race is for the strong, thats why God told Joshua to be very courageous.  Look unto Jesus the author and finisher of your faith.

shalom.

aloy/emeka:
There are many closet gays who nurse homosexual feelings from childhood and it wasn't born out of fantasy or learned habit. What of South Africa's Semenya?. She was born a woman but she has testes. It is apparent that her testosterone levels will be the same like men and she will be sexually attracted to women. How do you explain that?.

Nobody was born gay jare. Something happened to that lady while growing up, she is not telling the truth. Some ladies got molested at a tender age and hate men. People decide to be gay, as a result of an experience, exposure or the desire to do something different from the usual. How a person got socialized has alot to do with what he accepts, which depends on alot of factors. I like eba and egusi soap cos in Africa where i grew up, i was fed with it, i saw others eating it so i accepted it and today it has become my favorite meal. I was not born to like eba but alot of factors contributed to my eating and enjoying it. If i grew up in Italy maybe my favorite meal would have being noodles instead of eba. If you see an Italian that likes eba, you will trace that to an African experience. Something made him like eba, maybe an African wife.

It is humans that make themselves gay with the help of demons.

violent:
If this rumors are true, then Jos is finished!

Finish ke? No ooo, God is still on the throne.

CGKing:
Its all just sooooo pukey. I pray Jonathan gets kicked out.

Why?

Am laughing in french

ogajim:
^^^ Am I touching a nerve here that you've become so defensive

When I fast or how I do it is between me and my savior and not for your consumption, I don't do things for the sake of it madam. It is our DUTY as Christians to share everything we are blessed with (including knowledge of the Scriptures), you can put your "Pastor, MOG, GOC, GO, GS) on any pedestal you want as you are entitled to such but don't judge or question how I go about mine.
If you open your eyes a little and compare what you see or hear with what the Scriptures have to say about such, you might come away a better Christian or person. By their fruits ye shall know them and it does take a little effort to find out the truth instead of regurgitating what we've "been taught". I have actually heard a Nigerian pastor say "maybe you too can pick up the Bible and preach if you don't have a real job". If Jesus was so DIFFERENT from any of the twelve Disciples, there wouldn't have been any need for Judas to get paid for the betrayal. You should GIVE because it is our charge and duty not because of what you want to receive back as that would be like the stock market or kalo kalo,

Matthew 23 could give you a better understanding, shalom.

Hmmmmmm interesting. You ogajim wrote that part in red?

chuose:
@Mabell:

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[li]Haven't heard that your Pastor Chris charges to enter his church?[/li]


[li]haven't you heard that he keeps company with the known occultist TB Joshusa?[/li]


[li]Haven't you heard that he was rejected from PFN?[/li]


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These are not lies but verifiable truths that Chris is a COWBOY PASTOR

When a Pastor has this much wahala, there must be something wrong!

God is exposing him!

When did Pastor chris go to the PFN for membership? Where did you get that lie from?

Jesus also had plenty wahala in his days remember, both from within and outside.

A person cannot be born gay. People become gay when the mind of the person accepts such a practise and the devil gives such a person foolish reasons to remain gay. It then forms a mind-set, the cure is the word of God, to pull down that stronghold. The word of God has the ability to transform his mind. God didnt create the devil remember, he created lucifer, but lucifer became the devil.

@ Ola

Your so funny! You have great truths in ur jokes.

ogajim:
It would be nice to know which Scripture you are quoting from, from your post, it seems the only thing one can give in your church is money, what about Charity towards one another that Christ preached? Most of these "modern day" churches are actually turning most people away from church with their hunger for the filthy lucre. Way too many "principles" being preached that can't be found in the Bible or twisted if found at all, "be wise as serpents and gentle as doves" is Jesus Christ's charge to his followers.

I didnt twist any verse, dont you know that when pple give men will give back to them, Luke6v38. Abi you don comot that part from ur bible?

How do you want men of God to look sef? They should suffer, wear okrika suit and ride okada. The bible instucted us to care for people that teach us the word of God. Romans15v27, 1corin 9v11. Its not money that keep men of God in MINISTRY, they will rather do something else. Have you ever prayed for a demon possessed person? How long have you fasted? Do you know the sacrifices they make to remain in God's vineyard? If you think its for the cash dont you like money? Become pastor na, make pple line-up with different spiritual cases. Its the joy of changing lives that keep them, if is money some pastors can be great business men. Some resign from their jobs to become pastors, all you do is judge and abuse them.  You talk so much about what you know you cant attemp to do.

ogajim:
What happened to "test every spirit"? You will follow your pastor even if he is leading you to the opposite side? Good Christians are BEREAN Christians and don't hang on to every word they hear from the pulpit without VALIDATION from the Scriptures.

You didnt test his spirit before you started following him? Did the bible say you should test your pastor's spirit or instructors abi intruders. How did timothy test paul's spirit brother? tell me?

You are here to reconcile men to God if you are born again already. To accomplish our purpose in life cos we shall be asked by the master what we did while on earth. We are to impact our world with the love of God. Alot of God's children are just waiting to escape to heaven, forgetting Jesus gave us an assignment that is mandatory. The most beautiful part is, every work shall be tested, every talent will the master ask for a profit. Christianity is the earth work of the new creation, not sleeping and lazing around unproductively waiting to go to heaven. There will be an award session in heaven and we determine the kind of award we get by doing what we are called to do. shalom shalom.

I didnt say they belong to the pastor like a property, my point is, a member is suppose to submit to his own pastor. You dont follow every pastor around. Thats why Paul instructed Paul to follow  only him, even though he has plenty instructors, he(paul) is his only father because he begat him.1corin4v15.

Why didnt you read the other scriptures i quoted in Heb 13v17 and Heb 13v7.

X-factoria:
Yes, just a phone call and members will go all the way to defraud their employers and bring the money to Christ Embassy like it happened before. Yes, just a phone call.

There a plenty genuine millinaires in christ embassy. A person that steals to give is a NEPIOS. Pastor Chris do not teach such.

oga David read Heb 13v17, Heb13v7

You are to be submitted to your pastor, you follow him like Paul instructed timothy to follow him.

Can i afford to fix my hair?

Can i afford to buy new cloths?

Can i afford to buy snacks?

Can i afford to pay my child's school fees?

Can i afford to listen to BBC?

Can i afford to be on the net?

Man is a spirit and his problems are spiritual and are to be handled spiritually. Greed is the problem of most pple, they can buy and pay for every other thing but in church they give nothing. Some give mllions to babalawo, pay dues in their cults monthly, sponsor terrorists etc. This gospel most go to the ends of the earth and we are not going to make that happen with water and paper but money. The devil wants to church to remain small without a voice, without money. The way to have is to give, the devil is fighting giving in chuches cos he knows the prosperity of the christian is mostly dependent on his giving. Most churches that do not teach their members to give cannot do big things for God. Most times even the people in the street they are do not know a church is there. In the bible some christians sold their properties(land) so give to the church. People gave the very last meal they have? If people stop going to church, what will BBC gain? More pple staying at home to watch them on sunday morning.

Intrepid!:
Wait for it,

Dont they have the address? abeg make i send am to them na. Why dem dey waste time

cold:
@Uglybetty,you need not take these criticsms from these 'hypnotised' folks seriously.To so many gullible folks,there's nothin you'd say or do about pastor Chris that would change their minds.They'd rather die than leave that glorified shrine.To them pastor Chris is a god,in fact he is the God & they'd listen to no other.You'd only be dissipating your energy trying to convince them to retrace thier steps.The truth is Pastor Chris is an[b] Agent of Darkness[/b].My people,be warned,the signs are all there,open your eyes and see them rather than shouting people down.Be warned,be warned,be warned!He/she who have ears let him hear.

It is unlikely that a false prophet will openly admit to being false. Instead he will pose as a true minister of the Almighty. He will come as a 'wolf in sheep's clothing:' and will do many miracles in order to deceive the human race - even 'the very elect - if possible'
Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

@COLD,  cold dey really catch you.

Intrepid!:
Bros need bail money for when EFCC go arrest am for money laundering!

Am laughing in french.

Azibalua:
people love to listen to him because his words are so precious, from him inspired by the holy spirit you hear phrases like"i am the effulgence of gods glory[/color[color=#990000]]""i have been awakened to the fatherhood of god""i cannot be deceived "" the wisdom of god is working in me""all information in this world is accesible to me""when i speak i dissolve doubts" compared with all you said i think you sound more like a mother of doom[b][/b]

sister you make me want to shout halleluyah. I need to sow a seed right now .

1 United:
This one sounds like one of them. Gbam. Pastor Chris younger brother

And you are? Let me quess, the younger brother of a native doctor or one of the witches threatening Atiku.

uglybetty:
I have always known that there is something about him. I guess he hipnotises them. because even with this people will still go there, even with his bleaching poeple are there, with the retouched hair the same thing. Na wa ooooooh. Have you noticed that the wife is steady in London, how is he coping alone, as body no be firewood with all this babes around him. People, Shine you eyes and refuse to be hipnotised by any prophet of doom.

Nonsense, rubbish, pls the next word. still thinking. Bad belle, i really need to open ur heart and belly for washing with water and put some mustard seed.

KunleOshob:
Yeah Malachi 3 the most fraudulently manipulated chapter in the bible which has been used to fleece the faithful gullible on a consistent basis for hundreds of years.

And you believe you can stop christians from tithing by posting on nairaland? You want to teach another man's member what to do, why dont you win souls and then start with them, indoctrinate them. Teach them tithing is not for the christian,such pple can spread across the world and stop tithing na, dont you think so? You talk so much about what is done wrongly in churches but do nothing apart from talking. If you want a change, why dont you BE THAT CHANGE. Let others copy from you, if you do that posterity will remember the KUNLE of Nigeria that saw something wrong and changed it by doing so and so, not just talk and talk. Everyday you are abusing and complaining about a church or man of God. You kunle what have you done that people will remember you for? What have you done with christianity? ARE YOU Building it or Destroying it?

If pastor chris want to make money from people it will not be gate fee na. Healing school is the best place, cancer case #5m, HIV #3M, malaria #1000, salvation #1m. Kai for over 25 years that would have being mega bucks na . The intention was not to make money, if pst chris need #25m sef, its just a phone call and its done. He has members that are millonaires.

infinitii:
@Johndoe200
I was actually sympathetic to your plight until you posted the stuff above.

You are just another charlatan seeking attention.

Marine spirit, Grin Grin, spiritual husband, Grin Grin, God, you are so lame.

Im not surprised to hear that u are a charlatan seeking for attention, but if im truly seeking for attention, then let the PROBLEMS PERSISTS, but if truly, i spoke out so that i may be helped by NL ( who knows, ), then u and your generation will be afflicted with much more than all these am experiencing, u will never know peace unless the likes of u stop ruining yr mouth in this manner,

Madam take am easy o. I know you were offended but let go and let God. Some posters see NL as a play ground and hardly take pple seriously. There different kind of pple in the forum so just overlook some posts, if not some posters will give you a bad day.

johndoe200:
I was actually sympathetic to your plight until you posted the stuff above.

You are just another charlatan seeking attention.

Marine spirit, , spiritual husband, , God, you are so lame.

Why do you think she is seeking attention? Dont you believe in the operation of such spirits? You are to help not to make her feel bad and regret for seeking for help.

My dear sister if your born again you are superior to satan, change your mind-set, let the conciousness that you are more powerful than satan flood your heart. Meditate on scriptures that talk about your authority in christ and the devil will flee from you. If you dont know who you are in christ, even if a pastor prays for you, the spirit will come back to see if his house is still available. Therefore know the truth and it will make you free and keep you free. Take charge sister and rule your world.

oluite:
Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
Mt 10:8

Pastor chris do not charge pple before praying for them. The healing sch is free for everyone. All the programmes organized by the man of God is free. Night of bliss in south africa at the soccer city is going to be free. If the intention was for money, then pple would have bought tickets to enter every christ embassy church that night. There were plenty other venues available for pple free. If someone cannot afford #1000 to enter the auditorium, he can simply stay at the next venue and hear the same message, at thesame time.

If is money pst chris can just charge every cancer case 5m, thats easier na

This is bad, see innocent children. We really need to pray,this is demonic.