Marimart:

Oh ok,by God's grace ,I am able and strong enough to work and would prefer that of Israel so as I can raise money and then set up a business.

Very good idea. Rwanda is only good if u have money to establish your own business, then you will enjoy RWANDA, Kigali.

Marimart:

Hi brother ,with your vast knowledge and experience in travelling,where would you advice one should relocate to between Israel and Rwanda, thanks.

Honestly it depends on individual and what you want. For instance, if your intention is to hustle, as in get a job and work for somebody, then Israel no doubt is your best bet, but if you are looking for where you will be your own boss, like establish and manage your own business, then i will advise that you head to Rwanda straight. You could rarely get a job in Rwanda as even the ones available aren't enough for the locals, but business is very great there. Again in Israel jobs are every where, the problem is if you have got enough strength to work.

horlahsunbo225:


You lied to us that you're in Germany

Bro just forget that man, it's a waste of time replying him, he thinks we have forgotten just because he avoided replying to peoples comments here for some time. He never knew internet never forgets. What could make somebody to say he is in Germany in a platform such as this when he isn't? No one even asked him oo, so if that isn't fraud intention i wonder what it was?

MyopicMods:
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I saw in the news today, flood killed 15 people in New York City. USA, after a heavy down pour. What do you have to say about that? Abi it was also as a result of bad roads and poor infrastructures in the USA that caused it? Help me understand why streets of New York of all places should be flooded? A month ago it was Germany and a state in that same USA that were flooded and over 90 people died in Germany, many went missing and properties worth billions of euros were destroyed as a result of flood. Here in Lagos any time it rains heavily streets and some major roads on Lagos Island and several areas in Lagos are flooded. That same last month flood killed about 5 people in Ekiti state, so just tell me why this very one has to make a great news that should make a serious headline to you? Or is it because it happened in a Igbo state, your mortal enemies? YOU WILL SURELY REAP WHAT YOU SOWED, JUST WAIT A LITTLE LONGER, IT WILL CERTAINLY COME, I MEAN THE REWARD FOR YOUR EVIL AND WICKEDNESS.

Latakia:
If you like go Kabul go steal pictures and attached it as sadeast. This is the portoporto sadeast that we know with bad bad roads

So ur sadwaste is better right? Congrats for ur foolishness.

computer0810:

D roads u mentioned are FG roads

And this one is state road right? You see how miserable most of u are. U can defend ur evil and wicked so called leaders stealing ur life out but quick to point at same useless leaders from other religion. Purge ur damn life from evil and wickedness u sick man

computer0810:

So it is good as that abia road is so far there r bad roads in south west too?......na wah oh,u ppl come to our region to insult us but leave ur own region at dead end las las nw most of u will start claiming lagos when ur state r not motorable again

U are also in their religion and many of ur people are in the North too. Lagos was and still bin developed by the federal government and other tribes living in it. If it was by ur own effort alone, develop other Yoruba states like Lagos let's see. Stop claiming wat u can never be, Igbo are far better developers than every other tribe in Nigeria, and I'm very sure u know this. They don't depend on government to develop their communities but do it individually. Quit ur Rubbish.

triple996:

Elrufai( that u love to hate), wike, ganduje and others all repaired major federal roads in their states and then requested for payment 4rm d federal government bt ur Lord and savior ikpeazu who did nothing is d best . I agree base on eastern standard he is really performing wonders.

Somebody, ur bro, by name Biodun commented ahead of u, he said and I quote. This road dey learn work where Ogun state road dey. Meaning, this road
which is federal road is edorado compare to roads in Ogun state. This is a section of inter state road, meaning it's a federal road, but he leasted several terrible roads within Ogun state, I mean state roads. Can u check that out and comment again pls. I will be waiting to read ur reply since according to u, Yoruba has better standard roads compare to Indigbo who don't have standard.

BigDawsNet:
Isreal is a very nice country

Got few guys in isreal doing well

If you not above 32 don't even apply for the visa...dey will likely not give you...

Most success rate start from 34 upward

Getting PR is very difficult
You will have a good life...don't even think abt PR in the next few years you landed...unless you lucky to marry a white isreali...

Generally isreal is okay...

Learn Hebrew and you have better chance of success

God bless u bro, I told people what I'm very very aware and sure of and some were insulting me while others were saying bad stuffs about Israel. I know many guys from Nigeria in south Africa who want to move to Israel but could not due to difficulty in getting Israeli visa. I think the only reason many Nigerians are not there is cos of how difficult it is to get their visa, not because of wat some people are saying here. If they doubt me they could visit their embassy in Abuja and see how many Nigerians coming for visa, and even Nigeria Christian pilgrimage board in all the 36 states of Nigeria, they will be shock at number of people applying to go to Israel and lots of them get denied. In fact any thing below 50yrs of age don't bother applying through Nigeria Christian pilgrimage board cos u will be denied, reason is because younger ones don't come back wen they get to Israel. A country u don't have to do fraud to succeed, just be hard working and u sure to make it big there.

Limassol:
Israel is a developed country by every standard,matter of fact, the most developed in Middle East. However, i belive religious tension,racism and strigent immigration laws are the reason the country is unappealing to most Nigerians.

Absolutely, u are damn right bro, that's my observation too. It's also the only country in the entire middle east practicing true democracy. Those things u listed are the only true reasons lots of Nigerians are not there. They have a very crazy stringent immigration laws that almost made it impossible for people to migrate there. To get their visa is very difficult and even wen u got it and get to their country chances are they will send u back. My cousin who is already a citizen of south africa traveled to Israel on south african passport, which is also visa free for Israel, but he was sent back to Nigeria. I had to help him thru Nigeria Christian pilgrimage board before he could enter the country. 2019 wen I went to the Israeli Embassy in Abuja I met a lot of TB Joshua church workers who came for visa cos TB Joshua was having a very important program in Israel that time, but most of them were denied visa, and so many other people who came for visa interview on their own were also denied. A lot of Nigerians would flock that country not minding all these people are saying here, if giving the opportunity.

Originalsly:


Racism has nothing to do with tribe or religion or nationality. You left Europe because of racism .... did they care about any of the above? If Nigerian Police were racists then the Chinese and Arabs and Indians would have large communities in Kirikiri prison. Just curious.... why not try to settle in wonderful Israel where the few people you know are so successful?... in so short time?... and can even have their family over? Why not?

My brother do u have difficulty in assimilation? I started this thread simply cos I'm curious as why people ain't talking about Israel, I mean that country is super good going by wat I saw there and the confession of those close to me who currently reside there. I have searched on NL and cudnt find any thread on Israel so I wanted to know why people ain't talking about the country. I never said I wanted to live there or any where outside Africa. Some one I can not dignify here by referencing him even said who dash me visa to Israel? Hahahah, that's very laughable, isn't it? I mean a missionary of over two decades cant even get a visa to Israel or any country of the world? I mean a very successful missionary of more than two decades in the field of ministry, who has so many ambassadors friends can't get a visa for Israel and any country of the world? Well, I leave him to his ignorance and foolishness, but he should be very careful who he insults here, not many people tolerates insults and could go any length to make him pay dearly for his foolishness, for there's no hiding place in the realms of the spirit. I didn't insult any one here, only asked a question and commented, I wonder why some one can just come out on the social media to insult those they dont know. He can never be my mate, in fact I may be older than his father and mother, I guess he insults his parents at home and kicks them in the ass. He doesn't know me any where and he is talking rubbish, most of them deserve to learn in hard ways and if he doesn't take care he will learn in a very terrible way he will forever live to regret. I said earlier here that I don't want to live any where outside Africa any more, and even in the post he referred to I still said that I can't stay anywhere outside Africa again. Kigali he is talking about that I am asking to go to cos I have never traveled before is a place I stayed for almost two months and even founded a ministry there yrs ago, and he's here talking crap. Let him go to 4ever Edward post on Kigali and he will see my comments there trying to advise people on Rwanda issues. If he want to travel to any country of the world just a call to any ambassador in Nigeria here and he would get the visa, as long as I vouge for him. He doesn't need to pay a dime until his visa is out and if he doesn't get it then let him know that I'm a total failure just like his generation. Another dummy said I'm a visa agent, me Apostle Okey a visa agent? Hahahahaha, that's really hilarious, isn't it? Again know that racism comes in different ways, or wat exactly do u call racism? Can u help me understand wat u refer to as racism? Or do u not know that wats going on in Nigeria which u referred to as tribalism is worst than racism and could lead to ethnic cleansing and the rest of it? Is it not worst here wat people had to go through in their own supposed country than watever is bin meted out to them in foreign land? Do u know how many number of Nigerians languishing in prison in foreign lands, preferring to go to jail overseas than coming back to Nigeria? Have u bin to Israeli Embassy in Abuja and see how many hundreds of Nigerians flocking in there and trying to get their visas to flee Nigeria but ends up bin denied? Are they not aware of all the alleged racism u and some others have pointed out here? So why are they still trying to migrate there? I have a friend who works at Nigeria Christian pilgrimage board in Abuja and he said from Enugu state alone about 47 pilgrims to Israel in 2019 didn't return back to Nigeria and as a result they are really not giving young people below 50yrs of age Israeli visa again. Well, at least ur own comments so far are matured and within the confines of civility and I appreciate it. Thanks, sir.

manneger2:

Who gave u visa, this OP is really delusional, someone that is still struggling how to move to east Africa, is here saying when was at Israel, that people are making 1.5mill monthly after expenses. This thing wey u talk now show say u Neva commot Nigeria. I know some people will contact u now for pilgrimage tourism visa and u will scam them.

I seldom dignify morons and imbeciles, so this is wat I do wen I mistakenly run into one. I ignores them completely and relegate them to the trash can where they belong. U belong to the dustbin, so I dare not follow u to d gutter where u and ur generation belong and shall remain there forever till the day u learn respect and manners. Remain in ur dead land and never rise again forever. Amen.

Originalsly:


Read what you wrote .... then ask yourself why they stopped him. Is it not because he was Black? If he were a Jew ... do you really believe he would've been stopped? It is called 'racial profiling' which is a form of racism. Police being hostile to some and not others also is mainly because of racism. Ask yourself why almost always an unarmed Black is shot and killed by Police because they believed he had a gun? ... but at the same time a White armed with a gun ... and firing is almost always subdued? Why? You are concluding on account of a few .... second hand information .... I live among them... not passing through .... I write from my personal experiences and observations. For your friends and the successful ones..... money does not make them love you and I'm almost sure most Blacks are pretty much confined to certain areas..... same as in China.

So u mean it was wrong for police to have stopped him after they noticed a suspicious movement from him? So even here in Nigeria police doesn't stop, search, arrest and detain people even for going about their lawful business ? Doesn't worst happen in Nigeria even amongst blacks and in their own country? But will Nigeria police had taken him that long distance to his house and even let him go without detaining him and waiting for his people to come pay heavily for his release ? The boy serving my friend was arrested in his shop and my friend paid 100k for his release, wat was his offense? Police came for mass arrest around his shop area in broad day light, they came right into the boys shop and picked him up. I mean a boy that was in his shop and knew absolutely nothing about the reason for his arrest. They picked him up right inside his shop and demanded for 150k for his realise, that's after spending one whole week in police cell. My friend contacted even a police AIG who told him that he can't do any thing but helped him reduced the amount they charged him to 100k. Here Israeli police picked some body up and drove him all the way to Tel Aviv from Jerusalem, many hours drive just to help him that night and to be sure of his claims of residence, released him without asking further questions or asking him to pay for his bell after he was identified and u calls it racism and here in ur own country u are picked up by ur fellow black and country police, detained, pays for ur release and some times killed for no just reason, so wat do u call that one? I'm happy u said the same thing happens in China, so it isn't just an Israel thing, but has it stop blacks and Nigerians from flocking China? The answer is NO. So I really do not know wat the argument is all about here. Here in Nigeria people who are protesting are called terrorist, arrested, imprisoned and killed, but a well known terrorists who have killed thousands of people are freed, bandits who kidnaps and kill people are paid, Fulani herders who carry ak-47 and kills hundreds of people are pampered and not arrested, so pls Israel and ur so called Nigeria which is better and Wich shud be called a racist country and be avoided by people? U said police shoot blacks any how, where, in Israel? This is the very first time I'm hearing that. Do u know how much racism that's going on against the blacks in the USA and all European countries? Bro ask those living in Europe, Asia, US and others wat they had to endure. Do u know where I relocated from and why I decided never to live any where outside Africa again? (RACISM) I'm currently in Nigeria but making enquires about KIGALI RWANDA, have bin there before but that's a long time ago and I'm thinking of moving back there to settle down. Racism is every where, even worst in ur own country. A country where u are not identified as a Nigerian but by ur tribe and religion. Honestly I don't know wat u people are arguing here. Thank u.

dasparrow:


Give it a rest already. You opened a thread asking why Nigerians don't consider Israel as a preferred migration destination and when people gave you their reasons, you began arguing with them. Does that even make sense? People have a right to decide where they want to migrate to. There are several newspaper articles and news video clips on YouTube talking about the poor treatment of the Jewish Ethiopians in Israel.

Why would any sane person leave Nigeria and move to yet another hostile environment? Why do some of you take pleasure in trying to talk other Nigerians into moving to countries that are not exactly "friendly" or safe for Black people? If you love Israel so much, then why don't you move there yourself? After all, who no go, no go know. And by the way, visiting a place and living there for an extended period of time are two different things. What you will experience as a tourist during your brief stay in Israel is completely different from what you will experience if you reside there as a permanent resident.

As someone already mentioned on this thread, there is no need to continue this thread. You have no right to dictate to Nigerians were to migrate to. Racism is real and can be deadly and should not be underestimated. If some Nigerians are seeking to leave the tribe and religious intolerant Nigeria, the last thing they need is to move to yet another hostile environment. It is foolhardy to jump from frying pan (Nigeria) to fire (Israel). Just saying.

Ok bro, thanks for ur contribution. I love how u gave ur submission simple and direct without resorting to insult and names calling. It shows maturity and decorum, and i really appreciate ur contribution. Thanks a lot and God bless u.

Originalsly:
When you guys read up about a country and all the opportunities it has to offer .... dig deeper to find out if the door is wide open to you as a Black. Israelis do not like Blacks period..... some they will tolerate if they are beneficial to them. Why go to a place where you are not welcomed?

Those blacks, i mean Nigerians living there are they not human beings oga. All the blacks i met there wen i went on pilgrimage, some of my community guys and all those i know from Lagos who migrated there years ago and who are doing well for themselves they are all white right. You cant be in the confines of ur house and know what's happening in far away Israel, and even know more than those living there. I could point out more than 10 people i know who migrated there and are doing well. One of them went for pilgrimage and disappeared there, after 2yrs he came back and took his wife and kids and went back to Israel and they are all there currently. A friend of mine who lived in Tel Aviv told me about his encounter with Israeli police wen he was new in the country. He said he went to Jerusalem and lost his way, it was late at night, around 12mid night, and as he was wondering about police stopped him and ask where he was headed to, he told them he lost his way, they then asked where he was staying, he told them and they entered the address in their car system which guided them to his house in Tel Aviv. Wen they got to his house they rang the door bell and his friend he was staying wit who is also a Nigerian came out. Immediately the guy identified him the police handed him over to the guy and zoomed off. Now that isn't, or shouldn't be the characteristic of a racist police, is it? You should also find out why they are hostile to some people and not to others. Dont conclude on the accounts of few, or without being there yourself.

Lagbaja88:
so if it it’s impossible. Why should people be talking about it then Then this thread is not needed

"Almost" impossible and outright impossible ain't the same, sir. I didn't say is impossible. I said it's almost impossible. Meaning though it's difficult but is still possible. People are still traveling to Israel from Nigeria. There are many ways u cud travel to Israel from Nigeria, one is tru Nigeria pilgrimage board, tru school and other ways. Wen I visited there 2019 I went thru Nigeria christian pilgrimage board.

Lagbaja88:
lol you dey mind the delusional guy

U must have lost ur senses to dare call some one u don't know delusional, do I look like a dummy like u who haven't seen an airport before. That u see people comments and posts on NL doesn't mean they are in same class with u. Some of us have seen it all, so living abroad doesn't frick us any more. Only those like u who haven't seen an airport before takes living in overseas as a big deal and great achievement Be careful who u open ur gutter on here.

Jamestown123:
Please, if you have people that are making it big there, why haven't you pack your things and go to israel by now? Because you claim one can make 1.5m as saving monthly. Please I mean no offense, but reason wetting you self talk.

Oga I didn't tell u I want to migrate any where outside Africa. Beside I had visited Israel on pilgrimage before. So living any where outside Africa doesn't frick me any more as I have lived in so many other countries outside Africa before. And even if I want to live any where outside Africa it won't cost me any thing, as my documents are still intact, all I need is buy ticket and zoom off.

Lagbaja88:
security, racism, lack of pathway to get proper stay. As a black man there you will picked up one say by police and deported. The ethiopian jews are facing racism there,talkless of you wey be black non jew. Nigerians are not going there because he no make sense.shikena

But still many Nigerians are currently living there and they are very much comfortable. The only reason many Nigerians are not living there is because it is almost impossible to get their visas.

RunzMAN:
Biafrans are making there

Didn't get u bro

Freestainworld:
Because of security reasons, don't misjudge me though because I know how powerful Israelis are in terms of securing their land, but on the other hand, they are surrounded by their enemies who continues to fire missiles from left to right on them, a little mistake from Isreal could spell a big doom for them.

Ok bro, so it has to do with security. But if that's the case, is Nigeria more secured than Israel? So if people are still living in Nigeria and foreigners still visiting Nigeria, I don't think it will be a bad idea to migrate to Israel for a greener pastures, or what do u think bro? After all life is all about risk taking, and he who has nothing to risk, has nothing to gain or achieved.

Why is no body talking about Israel in this travel section of Nairaland? I mean that country is super and one of the best countries to easily make big money legitimately. I know some guys from Lagos who sold off their businesses and moved to Israel few years ago who are today owners of properties in Lagos and in their villages, and this happened within just 2years of moving to Israel. I have made so much research on that country and my findings proves that you could make savings of at least 1.5m monthly after expenses, and this you could have working legitimately and not involving in fraud of any kind. As long as you are hard working you could easily hit it big in Israel, so why are people not talking about that country? I know it is so very difficult to get Israeli visa as a Nigerian but much efforts and God on ones side, you could actually be granted visa. No harm in trying, you know. And if there's reason people ain't interested in that country, can we hear it pls, people who have first hand info regarding that country may be willing to offer some advises. Thanks.

PortHardcore:


These are normal houses.

Jamaican architecture is different than Nigeria,I would have to say Jamaican houses look more like what you would see in Senegal/Gambia.
Im going to post some houses In Jamaica that look like Lagos houses though.

Bro are u currently living there ?

PortHardcore:


So all the pics posted so far are ugly...

No, sir

TrillionBrains:


Their currency also doesn’t look the best too. A dollar converting for more than 800Francs

Nigeria money is bigger or stronger than theirs but the strength of a country economy is not determined or measured by how strong the country currency is, else Nigeria and every other countries in Africa economy wud have bin far better than a country like South Korea whose money or currency is almost rubbish yet it is among the first world and one of the best countries on earth today.

TrillionBrains:
That’s really bad idea he had in the beginning. I also spotted the weird contents on his YT page cos I know most student vlogers always update school related stuff more but that’s btw...

I picked interest in Rwanda after a citizen friend of mine who just completed undergrad in a different discipline got into IT and doing really good, told me bout the local firms and startups one can use as a springboard to build portfolio while aiming for the international scene.

I’m a techy too, done with bsc here and would love to visit Rwanda someday maybe not sure on a visiting visa tho

Is no big deal bro, Rwanda is one month visa on arrival at Kigali airport, wich is also renewable upon expiration. Just have enough money and u are good to go.

SeaTrade:
Na money weh you never get dey make you talk this nonsense.
What kind of returns an investment in Kigali can possibly bring that will be greater than that of Nigeria?
You just don't have enough money to compete with Nigerian giants,hence looking for weaker shitholes to go be their local champion.
Don't badmouth Nigeria.

I no get money and I'm talking nonsense right? Ok, sir, thanks for that but pls don't heed this advise, just continue to wag ur tongue on people u do not know, soon u will not be able to use those ur hands to do any thing good on this earth and ur lips shall seize to rumble foolishness against people. A faceless internet shudnt give u the impetus to talk any how u like, for there's no limit or facelessness in the realms of the spirit. Ur destruction and ruin shall come from ur own hand. Mark todays date and this msg, if u dont seize from ur abnormal ways of insulting people ur end is near and will be very swift. GOODBYE.

Plut01:

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You're still proving ignorantly stubborn. Whether your so called 'concerned people' like it or not, Panama is a North America country until the world decides otherwise.

You or any individual USA guy can not just stay in your cubicle and proclaim Central America as a continent.

At the bolded, you're welcome and now go back to the ignorant person or site that made you believed Central America (whatever you called it) is a continent on its own and reeducate him........In the present day computer village, Ignorance is a Choice.

So many things the USA people still need to learn in geography. You can check on some interview by their immediate past and current president of their education board and you'd see them talking much their populace geographical ignorance. Imaging so many of them still believe Africa is a country? Imaging Many still don't know Australia is a continent? (This exact point made Obama to use that term 'Computer Village' while giving a speech that time). It's a thing many of their educated elites are aware of and that's why they are trying to update their Geography Syllabus from the very starter class.

And to the part where you rant on Me sarcastically calling myself a veteran professor [s]that's what most of your rants was based on anyway [/s], I can only SMH for you.

In short, Panama is politically, Economically, Cartographically, and geographically a North America country!


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Ok, sir, every thing you wrote here is correct, i mean 101% correct, case closed. I no go school, i live in a cubicle, but i thank God that at least i have a place to lay my head, so how dare me debate wit a erudite prof like u who lives in a mansion and who knows it all, i dey craze? abi i no know my level? Who born me? Abeg I no dey craze, i know who born me and i know my level, that's why i said, u WON, my prof emeritus, sir. Na u win pls my, sir. I no get strength i take God beg u, my oga prof abeg forgive me for daring to challenge a whole prof like u wit my little kindergarten education, sir. I don learn my lesson never to debate wit my oga again. U WOOOOOOON.

PortHardcore:


Where exactly In Nigeria do these pics look like?

These ones are pics of few estates in Abuja. Just posting estates not even houses of individual billionaires in Nigeria oo.

PortHardcore:


Where exactly In Nigeria do these pics lolakki laok like?

pic 1 Chevy View estate Lekki Lagos. Pic 2 Grenadine Homes Citiview estate Magodo Lagos. Pic 3, Carton Gate estate, Chevron drive Lekki Lagos.

PortHardcore:


Where exactly In Nigeria do these pics look like?

We are talking about a country's general infrastructure and development of cities not just few estates and compounds with some old outdated swimming pools meant for the few rich people, and if that's wat u meant then Nigeria has far more than those cos I'm very sure that Nigeria has far more richer people than Jamaica.

Plut01:

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Don't dwell in ignorance guy. Despite the clear explanation, you still don't know there are only seven continents and Central America is not part of it.

Panama is North America Simple! One doesn't even need to visit there before knowing this. It's a basic Geography that a JSS 3 student should be able to know.

When did the Association of world Geographers Made a continent called Central America? Don't let ignorance kill you. Saying that is like saying Sub sahara Africa is a continent in itself. Hope you get this simple terminology? It is also like saying Middle East is a continent.

To the bolded. This question itself oozes ignorance!
The North America continent lies between latitude 48.1667° N and longitude 100.1667° W. That's the best answer for your question because it is like asking where is Africa located.

And No, because the ignorant People you meet in the USA don't know where their country lies on the map doesn't mean you should suck it up. Many of US of A people still believe Africa is a country till now.

What we are saying is [and I will like you to take it as it is];
*Panama falls under the North America continent(Until the association of world geographers says otherwise)
*The name America is not solely for the people of USA.
*America as a name is collectively used for people on the continent of North America.
*There are only seven continents. Central America is not part of it.
*Using the term Central America to connote Panama is akin to Using Sub sahara Africa to connote Countries south of the Sahara. That doesn't make it a continent.

Guy, Learn! You're talking to a veteran professor of Geography


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Then ur professorship need to be seriously questioned cos i wouldn't know who gave u that wen u know next to nothing about geography, abi u bi zoological professor? cos that's d only thing that cud make a self acclaimed professor comment such misleading story to the public. Me i no go school not to talk of bin a prof but i have got common sense, have heard from people that are directly involved and have also read few books. U need to revisit class rooms to upgrade ur geographical thesis, sir prof. Now this argument ends here and now as i will no longer respond to u regarding this issue. U are right and wise in ur own eyes, so every thing u said here is true, while i'm so wrong in all wat i wrote here. So, sir prof, pls carry ur believe waka make me carry my own waka too. Thanks.