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Vanneni: Call me Shikiratu. I prefere that. Thank you. Yes I'm done with ma exams. Back to ma room from where

You forgot?

wow...


Never mind then.

Eze Promoe: [color=crimson]CFCfan, child abuse is a sin and a punishable offence.
Stop flirting with that school girl.
Are you possessed?
Must you flirt with any moniker that has (f)?[/color]

Hehehe... This is so wrong
Promoe you shouldn't be the one saying this jare.

^^ Lol... Playing the victim card? Not surprised at all.
So much written, very little said. True christianity is a road (one of two roads as described by Jesus, the other leads to destruction) leading to an end. That shouldn't be too hard to comprehend.

Anyway, you replied my first post and not the other way round. So if there is a trouble seeker, he isn't me. I simply aired my opinion. I'd say it again and again, it is a classic show of ignorant bigotry and self righteousness to insinuate that marriage is for christians only. If you feel that disqualifies me from being a christian, its your opinion and you have a right to it.

I only tried to show you the reality from the scriptures. Since you think being christian has nothing to do with being like Christ, and you are only interested in making idealistic statements for the sole purpose of arguing, suit yourself, and while at it get someone else to argue with you.

Cheers.

CFCfan: That means I'm the fact machine
I like being friendly though.

*shocked* you are?
Em... add factual to it, even while desecrating the 'Beauty of Nairaland Women' thread.

You changed since then, or so I noticed

@caracta, howdy?

CFCfan: Is Xynerise/Eze Promoe the fact machine?

for where? *opens fact file, clears throat*

It is estimated that our fact machine can churn out facts with speeds as much as 5 NL posts per minute.

He is also an ardent fan of Chelsea and Real Madrid.

CFCfan: Who be the fact machine?

lol... Only one person was uneasy enough to ask

Better code o

Vanneni: Oahray! *Rejoicing @ seeing him*

Amanda Vanneni, my artist *hugs* Tell me you are done with exams. Have you gotten back to your room now?

M-eye-tthew and Phi-lip-ina. Match made in heaven

Even the devil would be shocked by the lies of a desperate mallam.

If they can kill for Allah, cooking up lies is a small thing.

Hmmm... Nice. Very nice.

If this were the attitude of most of us, it would have been nice. Sadly, many 'churchgoers' (pastors inclusive) are self-righteous pretenders.

Had the same problem. Even after they confirm each time that I got the answers correctly, they still do not provide access and I have to repeat the process over and over. Finally ditched the account for Gmail.

Vanneni: I didn't go through the whole thread ( I might later though). But from all I've seen so far, I'm really iimpressed with you guys works. I draw and paint too.

Vanneni mi

Someone has spoilt our Fact Machine! He now flirts with every lady he sees on NL

Ihedinobi: I wasn't talking about the "supposed man of God". I was talking about all Christians. You appear to have some sort of vendetta against Christianity.

Huh? I called someone a 'supposed man of God', therefore I 'have some sort of vendetta against christianity'? Wow. Really do not know how to answer this warped logic. Well if you must know, I am a christian, and what I see in churches today is a far cry from what Jesus Christ stood for.

I don't care about the pastor you're talking about. I think it's Chris Okotie you mean, but I care nothing for his example. However, I said already that the failure of Christians at marriage does not take away from the truth of the post. And I explained that. If you'd bothered to read my posts at all you would have understood.

And, no, there's no cunning in me.

No cunning indeed! Yet twice you misinterpreted my words on purpose. First changing 'a man of God' to 'all christian leaders', then accusing me of being anti-christian. No wahala sha.

Well, if the question is about Christian believers, it's only right that we should agree on who a Christian believer is, not so? It's not derailing, my friend, it's being thorough. If we'll discuss, we should at least establish a common ground.

I see the question as an attempt at a deviation. Jesus followers were first called christians cos they were LIKE CHRIST. If we are to go by that definition, how many professed christians are truly christians? (Ignore this question).

No, my friend, it is neither full of fantasy nor a dodge. You insisted that marriage was for all humans not Christians alone. My question was simply to know why you think Christianity exists. Is Christianity just a patch in the tapestry or is it the Grand Design itself?

There was no christianity when God created man and instituted marriage. Christianity is not the grand design itself, but a road to it with Christ as leader.

If Christianity is God's goal for the world, then ideally every human should be a Christian. In fact, the Bible says that God commands every man everywhere to repent and be saved. If we all obeyed, we'd all be Christians, no?

The bible shows that not everyone would repent. You should study the bible more often.

And if we all became Christians, what would happen to marriage then? Would there still be different conceptions of it that God would have to tolerate?

Founded on fantasy again. Even people supposedly with the same concept of marriage lead different marriages, and yes, many christian marriages are not happy (for different reasons). Like I mentioned earlier, bible principles can only make marriage better, but if applied.

That first sentence was right on the money. As for the rest, I didn't ask for reality, I asked for an idealistic answer. Surely you appreciate the difference.

Marriage is a reality and so is christianity. I'd certainly not attempt to cover up reality with fantasy disguised as idealism.

I did not ask the question you answered here.

common sense demands that if something is a proven impossibility, there is no use expecting it to happen. It's why I used the sun analogy. Really expected you to get the point.

My brother, (you are a Christian, no?) Jesus Himself could be considered a bigot if we were to apply your standards to Him.

another cunning attempt at twisting words. I wrote 'churchgoers' not 'christians', its not the same thing. Jesus never restricted marriage to his followers, infact the wedding feast he attended at Cana was not between christians. He freely associated with the despised and downtrodden of his day, even the ones considered by many as sinners. That is a real role model... and yes, yes I am Christian. But doesn't prevent me from facing reality and dismissing fanaticism.

Pheeew! This has got to be the most boring diss thread ever! *dizzy from boredom*

Stop derailing this thread jor. If you wan chyke babe send her a pm

Jephyard: So for your mind na only believers dey practice true marriage. Confused Christian on d loose, may God help you.

As in eh... Churchgoers are fast becoming bigger bigots than muslims. It's shameful.

Ihedinobi: And, that response of yours to my question is very unfortunate. It simply asked for your conception of utopia. Are you afraid to share your ideal view of life with me?

The question deserves that kind of answer, because it is full of fantasy in itself and a deliberate attempt at dodging the bone of contention which is marriage and christianity.

If every human believed and obeyed God right from Adam, there would have been no need for Christ to come. The Bible also contains prophecy of the end times or last days. If you were familiar with the bible you'd know these things cannot happen if everyone becomes a christian in the real sense of the word.

Since you want a direct answer, No. It's imposible for everyone to become a believer just as it is for impossible for humans to go live on the sun.

Ihedinobi: My friend, let's just talk, shall we? No need bashing all Christian's heads in when there's one who'd gladly absorb all your rage, mm.

What would you say Christianity is?

what is the correlation between the "a supposed man of God" I wrote and the "all christian heads" you translated it to be? For the sake of honesty, do not misquote me.

I simply pointed out something and asked what happened. I'm sure you know the pastor I'm talking about. If you do not know why or think the answer would be embarassing, you can skip the question instead of attempting to turn tables cunningly.

Going into the definition of christianity is an unnecessary deviation. The question is: Is marriage meant for christian believers only? Let's not derail.

Ihedinobi: That only means that you have not been reading the posts on this thread. That was not my first post when I responded to you specifically.

In any case, yes, I mean Christianity.

Alright, Abraham, Noah, David, Samuel, Moses and a host of others were not christians. Were they unrighteous for that sole fact? I'm sure that answers your question.

Even Jesus says everyone cannot be on the road to life, so your question whether everyone should be a believer is unnecessary.

It saddens me when I see many fellow Christians acting all self-righteous cos of a religious name-tag when their lives are the very opposite of what they profess.

Marriage was not established for christians only. It is like life, everyone alive has a right to it. Being TRUE christian can only make your marriage better just as it can improve the quality of one's life.

There is a supposed man of God in Nigeria that has divorced twice now. What went wrong?

Ihedinobi: I thought you were actually reading the posts on this thread just like I read yours.

I want your answer. In my post I ASSUMED the op meant christianity. Is that what you mean too?

Ihedinobi: Ideally speaking, should all humans be believers?

believers in what or whom?

Crap! Which believers? The word is rather broad and vague. If you mean Christians, you should know that marriage has always existed even before Jesus came to the earth. Adam and Eve showed great disbelief when they disobeyed, yet God did not dissolve their marriage. Why? Because marriage was not made for believers only but for humans (for the sake of companionship and procreation).

True, Bible principles can help us have a happier marriage and family life, but saying only believers (in whatever) have a right to marriage is an utterly senseless statement and is bigotry birthed from ignorance.

Shugamania: Miss u too, Ray..
..but u're still married.

That's a small issue dear. Come back... Please