Ayekotoo: Buhari came in 1983 to kick out a clueless civilian govt that was sailing the ship of the country towards a water fall. He did miracle in just 20 months. Now he is coming again as a civilian president to resue us from this financial terrorist called Ngozi Okonjo Iweala. 2015 will be like 1983 again.
What miracle did he achieve concerning the economy?
Hmmmm, from Madueke's response I can tell that Buhari's certificate is irretrievable. So I guess INEC has no option than to accept the affidavit and believe the statements therein. I personally think Buhari would not lie about the educational institutions he attended. So let Buhari's opponents allow this to slide. After all, people swear affidavit when their certificates get burnt. So let's see Buhari's case as the case of burnt credentials.
N21 billion donation isn't illegal IF the donors did not donate more than a million naira INDIVIDUALLY. Also there's no limit to the total amount to be realised in a donation campaign, it's the spending aspect that has a limit of a billion naira.
So for now, we can't tell if it was legal or not.
However, I think it's time PDP or the donors give us the full breakdown of the individuals who donated and the amount they donated. We deserve to know.
Also, I recommend that INEC employ the services of professional auditors who will monitor the spending of each political party during the campaign proper. This way we can know when a party flouts the 1 billion naira spending limit.
nduchucks: That's not the implication - past leaders were meant. Let the NNPC thieves believe that they will go scott free so that they will not run away ahead of February. They will certainly face the music shortly thereafter.
It took him two days barcanista. Two days before he came out and issued that statement. I knew when the killings started and I waited and waited to hear from Buhari. I didn't on the first day. I didn't on the second. It was on the 20th that he came out and made the statement. By then many innocent lives were gone .
Even PDP had to call out to Buhari to intervene on the first day of violence. It was chaos up north back then. May we never witness such in this country again. Amen.
MuguliciousMUGU: who told you that jonathan did not fight corruption? Didn't He sacked stella oduah? Even his SSS tried to arrest obasanjo... But he stopped them
Let's face the fact. Jonathan did very poor in the fight against corruption. He pardoned Alamaeisegha. He dropped charges against Abacha's son and even gave Abacha a national award. The likes of Bode George were declared innocent. He freed Mustapha. Garouk Lawan is still walking a free man, the former chairman of Police Pension Commission was given a fine that's not up to 3% of the money that was stolen! I could go on...
However, I'm still yet to be convinced that APC is the alternative.
nduchucks: I'd be satisfied with leaving the past leaders' cases 'till the end, but focus on NNPC and the other corrupt and thieving former ministers and DGs of parastatals. This will introduce some semblance of sanity into the system.
Many people are overreating here. What's been said by APC is quite reasonable.
Reasonable you say? I hope you know the implication of Oyegun's comment? It means all those guys who stole from NNPC, the thieving former ministers and DGs of parastatals will be allowed to go scot free with their looted money provided they decide to stop stealing.
The thieves should be made to return all their loots. Jonathan couldn't do it, Buhari should do it if he wins. So Oyegun better recant his words or else I see no difference between APC and PDP.
coldFLARES1: Ordinarily, I won't join issues with you but it sucks to read your endless rejoinders that aims at achieving a misplaced indictment. I am no politician, even if I am a supporter of Buhari, and I respect the fact that an exercise of your franchise should be your discretion. I care less who you vote, but would only be pained if the majority chooses someone I do not favour. Afterall, Jonathan has done wonders! Just tone down your biases and we are cool. You mustn't stretch logic to get people to agree to your fabrications
Don't be pained. It's democracy. Everyone has a right to vote whomever they deem fit, they mustn't vote someone you favour.
coldFLARES1: . Pally, could u cut the crap and stop all your tricks at a senseless indictment already? Will your likes ever want to hold Jonathan responsible for the thousands of life so far lost to violence in the North East? Afterall, he's the C-in-C of the armed forces who swore to be responsible for the welfare and security of citizens. Assuming you are excused to attribute the deaths post-2011 to Buhari, does that equate with the over 10,000 that has died to violence by BH due to laxity/indescretion of those that swore to be responsible? Anyways, in PDP and to PDP supporters, 16 is greater than 19 (NGF elections), 7 is majority in a house of 26 (Ekiti) ati be be lo. So you have a justification. Crucify Buhari, he has done more harm than your "Jesus Christ" (according to Okupe)
This is how you lose potential votes. You brand everyone (including non-pàrtisan citizens) who is critical of your party as a PDP member.
My post was never about Jonathan's role in the current insurgency in the north-east. Neither was it about PDP. It was about the role of CPC (and Buhari) on the 2011 post election killings.
I have a lot of grouse with Jonathan. But that was not what I was talking about. This thread was about APC and their resolve to prevent what CPC couldn't prevent in 2011.
Don't let your partisan-oriented anger cloud your ability to constructively respond to a concerned citizen's post on the forum lest you lose his or her vote come 2015.....a word of advise .
Nairalanders and guests are reading your posts you know .
abdulhadi101: yes!!!! So as the other party dat formed d merger, next time be specific in your response
Exactly!
Since you've agreed that CPC is part of APC and since CPC had an history of post election violence, wouldn't it be okay to deduce that APC has a part of it that had an history of post election violence?
LouisVanGaal: isn't it funny/stupid dat their 'fatherland' neglected dem without adequate security for dem?
I blamed ONLY the law enforcemnt agencies and the Mobs that were responsible for their actions and I ve defended my reasons; unlike U...I NEVER blamed jonathan! But if u add him to the list..GOODLUCK!
Yes, add me too. Everyone should be blamed except your party.
imcam: even wit ur sentiment claiming apc is violent wat can u say about pdp burning brooms and apc poster in d east,am sure u know wat dt want wl translate to if apc try to show a reprisal
Burning of broom isn't violent Mr Man. Nobody was maimed or killed, no property was destroyed.
However the statement by Katsina's Governor (a PDP member) that the opposition are cockroaches and should be crushed is very inciteful and very wrong. Aside that, PDP is known for the use of thugs to perpetuate violence. It's a well known fact.
LouisVanGaal: Obino, u don't still get it! Election is like a gamble..in gamble, if ur opponent cheats u to win or wins u per say..because of d time/money u ve invested, u r likely to lose temper..that's why d gamble money is bin held by a neutral party..in dis case, a law enforcement agency..to remind dem of dia conduct of good behaviour! Like I stated earlier, the mans OFFSPRING BIN ADULTS I.e from 18 and above..u shud ve asked ursef why d police makes only the arrest of persons @ dat particular age and above if they r not responsible for their own actions?
Quite alrite, d supporters of CPC reacted due to d manner of d conduct of d election..but had d law enforcement agencies bin @ d top of dia game..they would have contained d mob b4 it went haywire..
And besides, do the party know dia supporters 1 on 1? For example, does The PDP hierarchy know weda louisvangaal is their supporter or not? It's ONLY dia party delegates dat they know and not any ordinary nigerian cos allegiance can swing. So since the party delegates dat r representing CPC didn't go and cos chaos dia, it doesn't mak senz to blame dem for the work of psycophants dat de r unaware of....
I still maintain dat d law enforcement agencies and d rioters shud b held responsible.Aldou I don't fully blame d agencies..its because de ve bin neglected by d govt..no funding...if u a govt worker in uniform, it wud tak somtin extraordinary for u 2b committed.. You just have to understand dat dia r some bad losers..no matter hw u preach to dem abt d spirit of sportmanship...they just can't accept defeat and is it anybody's fault that it's their attitude? Or was it all CPC supporters, the 1nz who cast d over 12million votes for buhari dat went on rampage?
You have succeeded in blaming Jonathan, the government, the law enforcement agencies. You blamed all of them except your party. Weldone . You know what, add me to your blame list. After all, my vote for Jonathan in 2011 was also responsible for the restiveness of CPC supporters.
Every time I remember those corps members who were slain, I cry afresh. They deserved better. They didn't deserve to be killed for serving their fatherland. God help us in this country. It is well.
BossAyuk: *laughs*...Yes he would feel the stigma. But in a scenario where his son committed murder, would it be sensible to accuse him (the father) of murder?? That's the question I want you to answer.
Why would anyone accuse him of murder? Bro it seems you don't understand me.
Buhari didn't kill those innocent civilians, his supporters did. I did not accuse him of directly killing them. However, the death of those innocent guys should impact a stigma on him too. It should because it was commited by people who truly wanted him in power. If it doesn't impact any effect on him, then he's stone-hearted.
BossAyuk: I know you're a long way older than 18...is your dad still responsible for your actions?
Did CPC sign any undertaking claiming responsibility of the future actions of their supporters?
I'm a Buhari Supporter and I live in Calabar, is Buhari responsible for my actions? Isn't that funny?
Obinoscopy give this up abeg.
If a guy is an armed robber and he's being caught, it'll rub on his dad, his family, his society. His dad will live with the stigma of being the father of a criminal for the rest of his live. Even if he deceives himself that he played no role in his son's criminal actions, his conscience will still prick him. He must have done sth wrong in his son's childhood.