Dede1:


You are bloody laughable. It seems Yoruba peeps enjoy sitting historical fact on its head.

First, Yoruba do not like my truthful contribution on this forum.

Second, Ihijirika has no business attending the funeral of disgraced GOC of a Division. Adekunle was not a Quartermaster-General, Adjutant-General, Chief of Staff of Army, Chief of Staff Supreme Headquarters or Head of State. Do you think death of ordinary busy body and loudmouthed jackass such as Adekunle will attract military characters such as Ihijirika?

Third, I have to bust your bubble on this crap. Adekunle never set feet on Ubani (Bonny) until the last Biafran soldier left. Those Nigerian soldiers who saw battle in Ubani (Bonny) testified that Nigerian navy under the command of Nelson Soroh saved the day for them. The two Nigerian battalions the landed in Ubani (Bonny) were at the verge of total annihilation when NNS Lokoja and Enugu opened barrage of cannons. Also, tactical oversight on Major Ogbugo Kalu who pulled out prematurely due to heavy bombardments from big guns on the warships paved the way for Nigerian side.

Fourth, I guess you did not listen to yourself. It was down to every human that Yoruba and their fellow minority tribes in southern Nigeria were absolutely not a factor whether Gowon becomes a Head of State or not. The main headache of Gowon and northern region of Nigerian elites was eastern region. Which coup are you talking about in the post? Yoruba can not and will never engender the intestinal fortitude to precipitate a coup in Nigeria. Let me drum it into your skull that coup is not meant for cowards.

Fifth, Nigeria is a renowned cesspit.

temporary reclusion and rest from the demands of nairaland, when observed once in a while, helps to retune one to mundane reality. you have been absent a while and it would be expected that your return will bring with you a refreshed perspective, perhaps in the short time, of a sane and attuned mind. However, what a torment to be perpetually burdened by as many demons as you host inside, dede.......i have never seen the victory at bonny so eloquently snatched from the clutches of history and rendered in a new act perfectly rehearsed for propaganda against the single entity whom every independent observer, domestic and international, affirmed and credited with the successful turn over.

hey malawian,

i come here and yab fashola policies and actions sometimes....like

when he allowed bzm to hoist biafra flag in lagos. thats a no-no! he wasted opportunity to turn mopol loose on them and i condemned him for that.

he allowed ojukwu body to fly in to lagos, thats abomination! .....go read wetin mobolaji johnson say ojukwu and igbos were planning for lagos in 67.

or when he go attend some yeye event in honor of achebe after the man don talk shytt about yoruba. wth! achebe body should be flown direct to enugu when he pass.....or if dem no get airport then fly him to cameroon, hopefully his passport no expire, and drive him across border to aba.

and then to pour salt upon injury, he want us to learn chinese. if anybody ought to learn chinese it should be igbo, not yoruba. igbo and chinese be yellow like pawpaw, dem two be short people, no more than four feet, dem both get flat head and they both call their god chi!

......yet, in spite of all these criticism of fashola, Negro will go to war for this man. so dont take criticisms of him as a measure of political support and loyalty to him. yeye persin go call your eze to come join this conversation.

kabiyesiii:

Yoruba is a tonal language. The "Ado" in adura is the container of Aṣẹ (divine force) of existence. Ado also means settled down (settlement) which is a contraction of "ibi ti a tii duro"

i think you are using conceptual approach to explain the etymology of adura. yes yoruba is tonal but it is not a conceptual language. it is an applied (functional) language. european languages are conceptual.

Ufeolorun:


To be honest i have wondered about the bold as well but Okun ki horuru ki afa ruru ni and some of these guys are separatists so you can forgive their desperation.That election shenanigans is a freaking joke man ,it should be happening on a community website not here but still eso eso

ose ufe, and again, i respect your feedback to me and thank you for it. Blessings!

Dede1:


You must stop being naïve and extroverted ninny. Who is in his\her right mind will fear loudmouthed Yoruba army officer? At a point during the debacle, the field commanders decided to not pay any heed to the deranged jackass. Do you understand the meaning of the word-tactics? It is a culpable felony to associate a phrase such as “tactically effective” with Brigadier Benjamin Adekunle.

For the second time in the annals of military warfare, a GOC lost the control of the entire division. In 1969, 3MCDO was a spent unit. The first instance was when Murtala Mohammed absconded to Kano from Abagana.

By the way, let it be known to you that Benjamin Adekunle was not a “General” in the army. Yoruba peeps are very good at transforming an ant hill into Olumo rock.

first, why were you not present to participate in eze election?

second, may God preserve his life....but if Adekunle were to die today, Ihejirika will be there to pay last respect and give him a departing salute. so you can cry crocodile tears all you want.

third, adekunle's single push and assault to push biafra out of bonny was a breakthrough and landmark success, regardless if failures followed that. he is very skilled in the tactics of war. he is credited with running a war game maneuver on water before deploying to the war front......the first in history of any third world country.

fourth, the reason gowon was made head of state was because hausa no longer trusted south and wanted distance from it, hence their agitation for separation......so gowon, to them, would be a buffer and should another coup happen against leadership the hausa or muslim northerners would not suffer casualty. anxiety was high. unclaimed container loads of ammos were discovered at lagos ports. adekunle was running nigerian ports authority at the time. they alleged he was planning coup and asked him to go on retirement, compulsory retirement. he is a brigadier general, on retirement pay and will receive full honors at death.

fifth, i noticed you dont use "cesspit" in your vocabs anymore. what happened?

Ufeolorun: YOur grasp of history/culture is one thing i really appreciate and its the real reason i made my comments.We know these guys do not need any motivation to cook up the usual sappy arguments,i just feel your logical and coherent put downs are preferable to stuff like this(not necessarily this thread).I fully respect your right to decide how you go about your business here.Its more out of respect sha than anything else.

i see. well thanks for the observation, i appreciate that.

have you been following the eze election and their drama lately? do you know why they are voting to elect a replacement?

i want you to be aware that while many events here in nl may appear disjointed on the surface, there is a more organized syndicate running the machinery behind it all.

i can give hausa slack, i can excuse a kanuri insult, i can overlook a tivi abuse, but there are two ethnic groups i watch with my 8 eyes, fulani and igbo.

fulani because they are wild and when they are out of the wilderness they are out of their element and unstable. igbo because their element is brash and disorganized and when they encounter orderliness they are out of their element at that point and unstable.

i dont slack off for unstable people!

Duru1:


It appears you are a nut and swears not to get education. The so-called ragtag school boys’ army forced Benjamin Adekunle out of Nigerian army. It was 1969 when the loudmouthed Yoruba piece of crap realized that war is not holding delusional press conferences.

your tax money is still funding adekunle pension. he was retired because they feared his war skills and how his loyal following in the army had grown strong and tactically effective.

General Benjamin Adesanya Maja Adekunle. Do you know what Maja stand for? I dont even know why they gave him that name sef, he is the opposite of Maja.

Ufeolorun: Don't you get tired of this constant ethnic baiting ni? Ojomiloju o just maybe the perennial chest beaters conventions here would stop if you simiedor and let them "give themselves brain"

ufe, c'mon.....how is this ethnic baiting?

if i cook it up, yes, you can call it ethnic baiting but this is a true event. i dont know what you mean, please explain.

berem: Na who we go Blame now?

who else, na Chime fault na.

19naia: I am learning spanish now and the word "DURO" is a spanish word also..It means tough or hard in spanish...I remeber once in aprogram of jewish woman in Hungary during 1945 she as calling for someone to stop and she said "Dario,Dario",and the caption translated as stop.."duro in yoruba means stop or stay or wait,but in spanish wait is "esperar",and stop is "alto"...So the same word is in spanish but different meaning...The word "Duro reminded me of the word "Dura" as in "Adura",the yoruba word for pray...I began to think its related when i heard in aprogram about India and the hindu religion..There was a priest telling the story of the ancinet books of priset from 1000´s of years ago and he said the ancient word for pryer or meditation was "DUA",it reminded me od "Adura" in yoruba..I began to see relation ship between "Duro" and "Adura",when the hindu priest said that their word for prayer was "DUA" and that their prayer was notlike christiansor islam but meditation where they will Stop and Stay the body and mind to sense the spirit of being with their good and so theyjust stay quiet and still stopping everything they can....So they do associate prayer with stop and stay.................. So tiday i group words like Endurance,durable,adura and duro as related....Duro in spanish means tough and hard,and as it may not seem to mean the same as stop ,stay or endure,you must consider that the semantics of endure and Duro in spanish can include "staying power","waiting through changes of time","staying the course"..Even the act of praying connotes act of staying ,stoping and enduring asit is practiced for Edurance in a sometimes Tough and Hard world....Its all related......I need to get a portuguese dictionary to see if the word "DURO" in yoruba came to Naija with portugeuse who have very similar language to spanish....any one one know portugeuse language well

Quite an interesting inquiry! Thank you for bringing this here. First, allow me to go into some preambles which are not directly related with your question but which invariably helps to dissect the origin and connection between DURO and ADURA and their related findings in european languages, like Portuguese. I am not a expert on European languages but I do have thorough understanding and subject matter knowledge in Yoruba words and language.


In His infinite being and away from us, GOD is ONE, and ONE ONLY! In His manifestations and presence to us in the universe, that Oneness takes a paired and opposite aspect to itself; this is the only way in which mankind can know GOD and still remain mankind. If GOD were to manifest here in our universe in His Oneness, the magnitude of Him will be too powerful for our universe to contain that everything will be displaced from its position in the galactic orbit....gravity and magnetic force, as well as the tide and currents will all reverse course and the sun and moon will merge. Basically everything that has meaning will surrender its meaning and collapse. Therefore, our universe is tethered by the infinite balance that was ordained to hold everything together from the primordial beginning. This balance is a "DUAL" force. If that duality is lost and made into one, then the tethering will break. Everything in manifestation is held together by principles or animations which are paired and opposite and form a wholeness of life in that thing.

Language is expressed using words and words are powerful. To express that differently, words are animations and contain lifeforce. So the power of duality and divine manifestation also exist in words. The first word in the beginning of creation was "-M-", this was followed by "-D-".

"M" is that lifeforce which contains all essences (Grace) of the feminine qualities and is rooted in the sea or water of creation or the reproductive energy or the maternal elements or the womb or the opener of a path (awakener). Think of "yMy"; "oM" or "uM"; "Ma"; "Mn".....and so on. It has a positive polarity and a negative polarity.

" D " is the lifeforce relating to masculine vigour (GRANDEUR) of the masculine energy and this is symbolized by earth, security, order, safety, preservation and survival. Words like "Du"; "aD"; "Da"...and so on. There is positive and negative polarities to it.

When the two original words are combined you get "DM", from here you get the original man "aDaM" (Adimu in Yoruba); from whom the essence of "M" (life or eMi in Yoruba) was extracted to reproduce Eve (Efe or Ife in Yoruba).

"eDuMare" in Yoruba is also from the root "DM". In fact, Edumare is GOD manifest, the GOD that is with us in duality. Eledumare is GOD infite, the GOD in His ONENESS and away from us. Eledumare is the owner or the one a step above Edumare.

I want to keep this short and simple and so I will say here that DUro, DUrable, enDUrance, DUst, DUll, inDUstry, ...all have associations with earth (terra) or something present, firm and established.

Asking if DURO is a Yoruba word would be like asking if DUDU is a Yoruba word. The answer is YES, it is!

Again, thanks for bringing your inquiry here.

kabiyesiii: Adura in Yoruba is a contraction of "Ado Iwa", the divine force of existence. It is in odu ifa.

Duro means "stop" in Yoruba since the ancient of time. It has nothing to do with the Romance languages.

So what is "Ado"?

some of una dey covet dis girl already de kin comment una write put for hia, ehn.... let IGP catch you dey talk sweet sweet about hin woman, una go rot for kirikiri.

Omexonomy: . Cbn gov have said it before Certain people from certain part of nigeria are very problematic. Fash has just demolish the houses of 6thousand people in ijora badia and all his kinsmen and bootlikers are silent about it.

you are not getting the point? There is a vision for Lagos and it does not include filth and eyesore.

The Beam: History is indeed interesting!

The more I read on the charlatan Ojukwu, the more my contempt for him grows. A myopic bigot fueled by pure greed and self-service, enabled by a rich, pathetic father who thought Oxford education (and later Sandhurst) could refine a mindless thug.

Planned an ill-conceived conquest of the nation, directly responsible for bombings of civilian targets, complicit in the summary execution without trial of allies who disagreed with him and the deaths of millions of his misguided kins men (mostly by starvation) who didn't know better than to follow his utopian ambition. This not even talking of his atrocious war crimes and targeted killings of non-igbo residents in Biafran strongholds.......

Questions are:
Why was this abominable looking creature never tried for crimes against humanity?

Why was this Nigerian Hitler allowed 2 live out the rest of his life in d company of respectable Nigerians?

I guess we may never find out, but one thing we've learnt from the dreadful mistakes of great men, (the biblical Abraham and in this case Sir Louis Ojukwu) is: STAY FAITHFUL, THAT BASTARD YOU FATHER MIGHT JUST BE THE NEXT HITLER!!

Read for yourself @:
www.zimbio.com/Nigeria/articles/da0wVAjz7Xf/America+Secret+Files+Ojukwu

+ 1,000,000,000

Great post!

the report said her b.r.e.h.s.t.s popped out! did you guys not read that? oowwwwwww, chineke!!

Ngozi no dey carry machette anymore, she be hajiya now...na dagger, watch out!!

oh finally, thank God!!

Congrats Onlytruth!

sbaks: Despite the facts that there are islamic terrorists terrorizing the north, the north is still safer to stay or dwell in than the south for the following reasons
1. Kidnapping is not as rampant as it is in the south(of which daily people are being kidnapped)
2. Theft and armed robbery is so much less compared to the south where this is seen as normal. Im a yoruba boy, a christian but i tell u the truth i see the north as a place to enjoy the money uve worked for in lagos. If u go to places like zamfara, jigawa, sokoto, u will see shop owners leaving their shops open to attend to other issues of their lives without any fear of thieves stealing their goods.
3. The people here dont do jazz like the people in the south. 'If fact na we dey teach them sum of dis crazy tins'
boko haram i want to believe may be a politically motivated sect created to de-stabilize the peaceful north and still yet some areas are still as peaceful as amsterdam. Guys wat do u think? I may be wrong u knw

op be specifi and say SE, instead of saying South.

ugojamali:

Well help him. We can't wait forever

tell me about it..... ive waited so long im beginning to think of withdrawing my vote.

alex101: I had to come in here to correct the mindset that most of us have as Igbo. If your "wife" is afraid/weary of the word Biafra, then I think you should try and work on her psyche. This was exactly what I zeroed in on my manifesto on how the media brainwashes people to hate what is right. I even read where our own Afam4ever said he already dismissed Biafra_rep simply based on his user ID, but warmed up to him after reading his manifesto. UmuIgbo must learn to work on their psyche. I've not seen Yorubas get weary of OPC neither have I've seen Ijaw distance themselves from MEND.

yeye persin, OPC is humans right.......above the class of Biafra and Mend.

hey omanbala, do we have an eze yet? its friday!

EMMAUGOH: ,OH WHO DID U think will suffer it...Go and ask that woman in Osoro street in Ladipo,,how much she is been paid evry year for Just a shop in her house...We came and we open thier eyes...Let us go nown you see what will happen......I even hear A Yoruba man living near Ladipo,have to give out all the six rooms in his house and made his parlour his living Room,then what happens to him when all those boys take off and leave him with no 300.000 yearly rent for 1 room....I bet you he will Just die Off....Not as you think Bro....

of course, ibos ears hear things that other people cant hear when it comes to your role as the "savior of mankind". please go and save your land from robbery and kidnappers and dont worry about the yoruba that will be a pauper if you left. the yoruba will not die.....but your people are dying as we speak. thats who need the almighty ibo hero....the savior-warrior with bags load of money and machette to restore hope to the people.

EMMAUGOH: ,,,For your notice Lagos being what it is today was because 1 igbo Man and being all it is today is because of many Igbo men........NNAMDI AZIKIWE started it by Making Lagos once a capital,and Many Igbo men has turn it to a eye shot In Africa..........
Then somebody like ODUA NEGRO will come out and say OUR Lagos.....shame on you....one day Efcc will catch you...LaZy BoY..

why didnt azikiwe stayed in zungeru where he was born and turn zungeru to capital if he was such a genius with the midas touch? why did he not consider owerri as capital if he was such a pioneer you claim him to be? and why did he snatch capital from calabar to lagos if indeed it was up to him to make these decisions?

let me tell you why zik was in lagos. lagos had all the elites of yoruba and ghanaians and sierra leone, young and hip graduates and upcoming replacements in the civil service dominated by whites.

zik was made by people like akkufoh and macauley. lagos made zik, a position that would be impossible to attain had he remained in owerri or zungeru.

EMMAUGOH: and what have u done to contribute to the Economy of Lagos.....Keep Talking While A busy Igbo man is carting away 10million ...After you will say our Lagos.....Ihere mechie gi Anya

lagos is doing you more favor by hosting you and your business, than you are doing making money and dodging taxes in lagos. your survival depend on lagos. you no see as your brothers don shout say they will suffer losses each day the market remains closed? imagine lagos reject you and send you out....how long before you all begin starve and begging to return.

we dont need you, you need us!

EMMAUGOH: for your Notice...many great investors in Lagos are never Lagosians and you come out to say go back.....Hunger go kill una .....Yoruba very Lazy people.

lagos did not miss you when there were no ibos on the soil, the sooner you leave the better so others waiting to discover lagos can come in. you saw clinton there the other day for Eko Atlantic launch. ok, people are coming.....decent, business minded people who understand the value of land and the importance of social interaction and they need space. ibos shape up or get the "f" out!

9ja_I_hail:

Are you this dump? When i expected you to do better you came out like a mad soldier who refused to take order from his senior officers.

Dudu grow up, idumota is a place i transacted business for more than 15yrs still never give up there and i can tell you each and every happening in that very place. No igbo boss allowed his/her apprentices to sleep in shop.

mumu, you can lie all you want. there were even incidents of fire in which ibo boys died in their sleep in some shops in idumota. early morning on my way to elementary school i passed through idumota and see your brothers just waking, trooping out of shops and flats, with wrapper tied round waist fetching water to wash face. nonsense!

you can know idumota all you want, but before ibos came in and started sleeping in shops idumota businesses were owned by yorubas, lebanese and very sparse indians. i can tell you who own what business and in which part of lagos island.

the high rise craze in idumota was to occupy and accomodate igbos paying 2 and 3 years advance rent. Competition was hot between Igbos wanting space at prime spot by all means. The Igbos setup shops and lived in the shops and also rented apartments and flats in the high rise. They were importing apprentices from village and they arrived daily.....some slept 10 or more in a room. What are you talking about? Those buildings were erected for you to do business and live in. Some of your boys born in lagos were conceived in these flats. For someone fresh from village this was great....but as you learnt your ways around lagos and opened eyes then you began to spread out to surulere and aguda and left the idumota ghetto for your apprentice.

i know all about your rise....from when you first arrived lagos with no shoe to now where you are flaunting thinking you own lagos. i gave you two examples already...okoya and otedola. these are just two...out of many. multibillionaires and yet humble and stay under the radar. they started from idumota, right there where your loud mouthed arrogant brothers are making noise on chicken change profit made from selling fake products.

On 20th of the month, BZM announced provisional appointments in which it named prominent Igbos like Ihejirika, Okonjo-Iweala, Pius Anyim, Diezani Madueke as cabinet members of its new government. In the announcement the offer was good for a week in which they were either to accept or turn it down. That timeline expired 27th. There has not been any declaration from BZM or update on this topic.

BZM also issued an ultimatum to the Nigerian Armed Forces in which it demanded that two weeks from the 20th of February all non-Igbo personnell of the military located and serving in Igbo territory were to vacate the land before or on the expiration of the ultimatum. That date is coming up on March 6th.

This is a status update only.