₦airaland Forum

aribisala0:
You seem to  have ignored or not read my post completely and just chosen to argue for the sake of it.

I already addressed the issue of whether the migrant population of Brazil or the USA is entirely from elsewhere.
I have  made it clear I do not support the Igbo Bini theory

I also made it clear what my point is

Present population figures i.e Igbo are more or less populated than Bini are not of any relevance in refuting the hypothesis.

Is there anywhere where one nation is formed from migrants from another place where we can say the new nation is ENTIRELY from the OLD 

WHAT IS YOUR POINT EXACTLY??

Mine is simple
In order to refute the BINI IGBO HYPOTHESIS  The current relative populations are of no relevance whatsoever either to prove or disprove the hypothesis

If you are going to refute the argument you can do better than this
The United State's population grew to it's present size due to mass immigration from Europe, Asia, Africa, and of course through it's own natural reproduction. This can actually be used to SUPPORT the Bini -to Igbo hypothesis and NOT refute it. If it could happen in America why not in Igboland. Once again I do not support this view but believe in arguments that are LOGICAL

All you need to is provide alternative hypotheses of which there are a few or other evidence archaeological etc which also exists rather than the visceral reaction offered

aribisala0:
There are many arguments against but population is NOT one and is irrelevant.

There are countless examples of greater diasporan populations e.g Brazil 190 million Portugal 10
USA 300 million GB  60

Of course the Migrant population is Not entirely Portuguese /British but that would apply in the Bini -Igbo hypothesis too which I do not endorse by the way
My point is


relative population NOW is irrelevant in proving or disproving Origin Theories

If people migrate to a larger,fertile more hospitable terrritory (LAND FLOWING WITH MILK AND HONEY) they will eventually outnumber those who remain at the point of origin if it is smaller and less hospitable


There are better,logical and more coherent refutations

patriot2:
I think the pride of some igbo has turn into racism, you refuse to see your connection with bini which would also be your connection to yoruba, why ? Because you have turn racist, I did not invent all I told you, just google it.

patriot2:
I didn't say it wasn't also the other way round, and I said it before Chief Agho Obaseki was my great grand father and his grand father was the Obi of Nsukwe. So you see, I am bini, yet I have igbo ancestry.
ANd this has nothing to do with influence, because when you arrive as a minority it becomes dangerous not to adapt yourself to the tune of the hosts(you might get wiped out).

patriot2:
There are many examples like this:
http://nigeriansabroadlive.com/a-yoruba-enclave-in-the-heart-of-igboland/
just use your internet. Moreoverif 700 years ago, only one man in igboiland was bini and he intermarried with igbo and they had kids who married igo and had kids,  then you can be sure that by now every igbo is related to that man.

patriot2:
Are you igbo ?

patriot2:
i may have exaggerated, But I think every igbo has a bini ancestor.
It is just pure maths.

patriot2:
My great grand father was Chief Agho Obaseki, his grand father was the Obi of Nsukwe.
And the obasekis are one of the greatest bini families today. Actually I think igbos are bini run away who did so because bini rules were very tough.

patriot2:
What i find incredible is that if something like the agbada is shared between arabs and the yoruba then the igbos will just assume it was created by the arabs, very soon they will assume our legs were created by the arabs.
Such a "black" inferiority complex can not serve the yoruba and certainly can not serve the igbos.
The igbos never were a people, the igbos used to be a collection of seperate villages which were completely independent and never saw themselfs as one people. And in fact the igbos were actually settlers who came from various parts of Africa, including yorubaland and haussaland (before the haussa became mohamedans),
The word Igbo is a Benin word meaning bush people. By the way, there were also many igbo tribes/villages/kingdoms
which were entirely populated of bini people. So actually the igbos are just like the americans, they come from everywhere in Africa (including ethiopia, egypt, etc, ), although they intermarried (by force or not : I doon't know) and therefor developped commonalities, and exchanged a lot with each other which led to a commun language. Now back to the topic, the agba was created by the yorubas who introduced it to the haussa (before islam) who introduced it to touaregs  who introduced it to arabs.
Arabs have never been "great creators" they have always been the type that would copy rather than invent ( e.g: islam is just christianity modified for war purposes, arabic is just Aramaic modified a little bit, all their science was stolen from the greek, etc, ) Face it the one thing I know for a fact is that the arabs have always been the less productif people on earth, they are too occupied killing each other to create things. So face it Yoruba invented aghbada, but the multicultarism of the igbo makes it also an igbo invention.

ifyalways:
El,so Nadia wu concubine gi?hahaha,iwu onye apari.

Nri Priest,nwanyoo kwa.I na-anyi ajo aru these days.Nwanyo kwa.Anyi anugo maka nna anyi Ojukwu,Ka Chukwu mezie okwu.

Odumchi so i rita Ututu?Ihechiowa kwanu?Nna m na-akpo m aga ebe ndi nwhu.So much fun!
A gam ebido ugbu a na agbali n'ede Aro.Imela.

Ya gazie Umunne m.
PS:A nurum na Presido1/Fromuk na Pres-elect/Darfur no n'ulo nga courtesy of ugwo ha ji Felimbobo.God wud make a way.lol

baby-boy:
Was he a GENERAL?

Rgp92:
Maybe braver than you. Ill rather die fighting for what i belive in, not run away. [size=20pt]Biggest coward of all time. HAHAHA[/size]

Rgp92:
[size=30pt]BIGGEST COWARD EVER!!!   [/size]

NRI PRIEST:
Igbo ndi oma m ji aba nba,Eze nmuo keneli unu nine ofuma. . . daalu nu soo,maka na oge obuna nbia gusia ife nine unu na ede ebea na onu Igbo, ugwu ejum na obi!

kanyi ghali echezona na oge bu mgbe anyi ga ejikwa kwanyelu eze Igbo bu Emeka Ojukwu ugwu dilia. . .Nwa onye Nri kenelu unu ozokwa.

ifyalways:
Odumchi,ego wu Ikpeghe and not okpowo/okpogho?
Ozokwa,'gba' eg imegba di interesting! a maghi m na ndi Aro na asi "gba",e chekwa m na owu nani ndi Umuahia/Abiriba.I dekwara, 'I nagha agbali',i believe thats not Aro is it?Aro ga-abu "i nawa agbali" ?

Ok,ule m:
What are you doing:Ngeni ka i na-eme.
Show me ur leg if you want a drink:Zi m okpa gi ma o buru na i choro nmai.
Do you remember that masqurade:i rita ekpo unhu.

Ka nka,nwa Mazi.

BlackPikiN:
More

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ak47mann:
Massobs they are on hit

Babzilla:
Whats he saying? can some1 break it down?

tpia@:
Did every part of biafra feel the influence of war?

Obviously the poster has no idea what war is.

aurenflani:
someone told me biafran troops fired artillery shells on lagos after invading benin. was that self defence? go do ur own research with an open mind and deduce reasonably and not rely on ur mother's tell-tell story to make u feel everyone in d world is jealous of igbo d lesser chosen ppl after d jews.

achi4u:
umu igbo ndewo nu,Obi bu m so anuri ka m choputara ogbako forum a na NL,o ga amasikwa ka anyi na ahurita onwe anyi na anya,ka anyi hapunu nkewa na anya-ufu.o na ewute m na ihe dika onye Imo agahi eji anya hu onye Anambra,Enugu ma obu onye Abia nke o ga eji buru onye EBONYI nke m onwe m bu,bikonu onwere ihe ndi Ebonyi mere unu, gbaharanu.Ufodu si na anyi aburu ndiigbo mana ufodu na ebekwa akwa na steti ndiigbo ezuruoke.nani ego ka anyi enwechabehi nkeukwu.but God'stime is d best.

toshmann:
Nkea idere ugbua kwerem nghota.