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LOL good to hear that I'm not the only one.

The Ihechiowa one might have been true in the old days depending on the traditions and abominations of their people. I believe the first part of the Eringa one but not the part about her going to war lol.

seedord247:
what did he achieve?

sending your MUMU families to war while running to benin republic to get a wife.

That was really uncalled for. And also, why do you keep following Biafra news like a fly on an a cow? If Ojukwu is insignificant, why do you continue to spend a large portion of your browsing time following threads about him? You know, you dont have to be here. If he achieved nothing, then just ignore him and let us do as we pleqse. I'm very serious now just buzz off. The man is dead, where i come from we leave people alone after they have died. Give him some peace.

I hope everyone does not take this joker seriously. Please don't bother replying to him he is just trying to start trouble.

Simple issue of competition. If all the competitors are in one town, then there is no money to be made.

Choosing to translate messiah as "the anointed one" instead of "saviour" in whatever language you choose may cause it to lose it's original connotation and meaning. Remember meanings tend to change as translations are changed. You're right in saying that the messiah literally means "the anointed one", but that's just it's literal meaning. In my opinion, the best translation that it can be given (while trying to resemble it's original Heberew translation) would be "saviour" since, after all, the anointed one is the saviour. This applies if you choose to translate it literally. But going contextually, I think "saviour" would best fit it.

That's just my opinion.

amor4ce:
Messiah means Anointed, not Saviour; thus we should look into the word(s) in our mother tongues used to describe the act of anointing or pouring/rubbing/smearing with perfumed oil or ointment or the indigenous substance used to signify divine influence in our communities/kingdoms.

Negro_Nations, the number erindinlogun or 16 is the complete perfect number, the complete square number. I got the info from the pages 603-611 of the book Odun Ifa. According to the author, Orunmila’s explaination of the numerology in found in Eji Ogbe. I want to believe that the names 12 gates or signs of the zodiac are strongly linked to the names of the 12 calendar months (perhaps tribes?). By the way, I have pre-emptively used the info you provided in the first paragraph on my blog but would remove it if you are not pleased with it. The info is very suitable for the Ife Bronzes thread and explains this Ife artwork. Perhaps when you feel its okay you can start a thread on Yoruba numerology.

As a small child, I heard many myths and legends and even now I still wonder if they're true. One myth that has really boggled my mind is that of Nwokonkwo the giant. I was told that Nwokonkwo lived in the 40s 50s or 60s and was the tallest man in Igboland. It's believed that he was 12 feet tall and towered houses and trees. So I'm wondering: Has anyone else heard of this man? And if so, what do you think about him (real or fake)?

Please feel free to post myths from your area that you would like to share.

Here's another one:

"Uma mo uma mo uma nwoyeke mo! Ayoooo"

Wo agaa emepuya. 

I don't see how a group of armed rebels will be able to travel from Kano to Nnewi, pass thick police/security forces and detonate a bomb.

Chineke ekwekwa ihe ojo.

https://www.marktimemedia.com/wip_sandbox/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/no-sharia-law-25463219231.jpg

Sharia law in the North is already unconstitutional. How can religion and state be combined? In which modern state should the personal beliefs of a people be made official law?

In what modern state should a man's arm be amputated for stealing a goat? Or a woman be stoned for committing adultery?

I hear it's going to be a very lively event. High-class people from all of Nigeria and the world will be there. Anambra will be busy.

Does that state court have the power to do that?

How can a [state] court have the power to do that unless it is a traditional court? I don't think it's constitutional for state or federal governments to meddle in the affairs of a traditional ruler or society.

PA1982:
My own Dad came to the UK from Nigeria with a false identity.
I know absolutely nothing about his family and suspect even my sirname is a product of his flight from Nigeria.
I enjoy reading about people who DO know about their family roots.

What ethnic group is your dad? And if you could give us a town or a state which he came from we could possibly trace your sub ethnic lineage.

DaRapture:
I'm Black-American, a descendant of Slaves and immigrants, and it seems as though I can trace my ancestry back further than most of you Africans.

Then would you mind sharing?

This is nice but what is your actual family ancestry. We are more interested in that although it's also acceptable to include your clan's origin.

omoghana22:
Nri is an ancient Igbo city-state in Anambra State Nigeria. The Kingdom of Nri was a center of learning, religion, and commerce in pre-colonial West Africa. Historians have compared the significance of Nri, at its peak, to the religious cities of Rome or Mecca: it was the seat of a powerful and imperial state that influenced much of the territories inhabited by the Igbo of Awka and Onitsha to the east; the Efik, the Ibibios, and the Ijaws to the South; Nsukka and southern Igala to the north; and Asaba, and the Anioma to the west. The rulers of Nri did not use military conquest, but imposition of religious authority and control of commercial routes as tactics in the spread of their city-state. Politically, Nri is known to be the most ancient origins of the Eze kingship in Igbo societies. But Nri and its rulers were also known for their occultic religious Juju, an institution that instilled both awe and fear in those who made pilgrimages to the shrine. Commercially, Nri was against slave holding. "Osu" was the name of outcasts of other communities who migrated and were accepted in Nri. Some Osu became eunuchs. During the colonial period, Nri and the regions under its political, religious, or commercial control became international markets for palm oil. In the heart of Nri influence was the Igbo Ukwu bronze castings.

The origin of Nri people is still a subject of much speculation. What we know for sure is that the Nri clan existed from as far back as the 9th century. Nri (the founder of Nri clan) was the son of Eri (founder of Aguleri) and had migrated to the present day Nri from Anambra (Ama-Mbala) river valley in Northern Igboland. Nri was said to have inherited spiritual powers from his father. The Nri people belong to the Umueri clans who trace their origins to Eri. Northern and Central Igboland, is the homeland of Igbo people.

Lmao

tlops:
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here is my Family Tree

I was just reading the commers and felt that this thread needs to be revived. 

Here are some more Igbo exemptions:

"Okoooooo!" -oh!

"Amadioha!" -oracle

"nne mee!" -my mother

"Obasi mee!" -oh my God

"Ukpabi oo!" -oracle

"O lo loooo!" -Oh lo loooo 

Some very interesting histories. More!

@Chinenye
You can do it both ways. I did mine both ways.

This is a welcomed discovery. Not to seem skeptical, but are they sure they connected every human language? What about isolate languages like Korean and Greek which aren't related to any known languages?

However, I think it's quite understandable that we all spoke a common language back then.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=857688.msg10072347#msg10072347 date=1327819545]aaahhhh!! Great idea! Negro's father was Lion King, who was fathered by African Lion, his father before him was Dansaki, who himself was born by Zaki and before him was Omo Erin, who was birthed by Erin himself. All of them originated from world of wibe web and their tongue was ASCII.

Odumchi who did your great grandfather enslave, Efiks or Igbos?[/quote]Please let's be serious.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=857688.msg10072317#msg10072317 date=1327818818]because it's over analysis @ bolded.

and i've already contributed.

i'm just not really interested in going further than grandparents because i dont see the reason per se.

doesnt mean i cant go further however.

i think i've traced my family history in general, and so far, what i discovered checks out with the oral tradition i was told when growing up. At least i can say i know a definite 55%+  to 65%+ of my genealogy. Maybe 75% on one side and possibly about 45% of the other side.

hopefully, the loose ends will be filled in later, but if not, no biggie.



can you place a specific time period for the people you listed in your ancestry? Just curious.

since you mentioned slave trade, that would be 19th century i suppose.[/quote]Okay, it's fine if you choose not to contribute last your grandparents. I do remember you once hinted that you were in your seventies or sixties, so the grandparent of someone of your caliber would be equivalent to the great grandparent of mine which is still very interesting. If you could give us some things about your grandparents, it would be fine also but only if you choose to.

Yes, my great great great grandfather was born somewhere between 1860-1880. The other people I talked about were in the 1640s.

I don't think such a thing should even be considered. Why should she be afraid of committing adultery even before they are married? This hints to the future. Also, local superstition only affects local believers.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=857688.msg10072239#msg10072239 date=1327817524]far enough @ topic.


over analysis can be counter productive sometimes.

if i know my grandparents, i'm ok.

although of course i could invent some fancy genealogy for myself.[/quote]How so (at the bolded)?

I guess you aren't interested in contributing.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=857688.msg10072232#msg10072232 date=1327817415]Oh, so you are a cross between Igbo and Ibibio, or is it Efik

Do I start from Adam and work my way down, or start from Negro and work my way up?[/quote]Actually they are called "Akpa" but they are closely related to the Efik. I won't say that I am a cross because this happened hundreds of years ago. Now, I am just Igbo.

You have yet to give us your own ancestry.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=857688.msg10072193#msg10072193 date=1327816777]How far back do you want us to go? [/quote]As far back as you can go.

I'll start.

My ancestry can be traced back to my great great great grandfather who was a slave trader and merchant and farther back to my patriarchs Okennachi, Agwu Inobia, and Osim and Akuma Nnubi. Through Osim and Akuma Nnubi, it can also be traced further back to a town called Akampka in modern day Cross-River State. Through Agwu Inobia, it can be traced further back and (possibly) to Nri and through Okennachi it can be traced further back to the Edda clan in the Cross-River basin in present day Ebonyi state.

Africans, and Nigerians specifically, are very proud people. In Naija, we value our cultures and histories and more importantly, the significant people in our families. So my question to you guys is how far back can you trace your ancestry?

Messiah in Igbo is "onye nzoputa" which literally means "saviour".

nanidee:
agaghi m ano n'obodo nigeria mgbe ha ga elii Ikemba  

i na ege Arabanko? chei. ka m tinye kwa nke m. Egwu a na ato ka sugar  
**arabanko, keke napepe arabanko **

ina a try kwa. Mana i ga abali, ka onwe I-leg 

Okay, ka imegba ihe dum in na eme lachikwa obido iza na udo.

*taxi driver*

Nanidee,

I ga esetaranyi photo na olili Ikemba?

@ your signature
ikwutara. Arabanko na Ayakata di uto. I ma ihe mere? M'na gee Arabanko ugbua anyi na ekwu.

This is a typical example of African corruption and political failure. Why is such an unpopular president still ruling Senegal anyway? What makes his decision any different from what Obasanjo attempted to do?

I'm glad that the people of Senegal (or atleast Dakar) have risen and have attempted to take control of their own destiny. Africans are tired if corruption and political incompetence. From Tripoli to Cairo and Dakar to Abuja, people are waking up.

As things stand, West Africa is in Flames.

That was impressive. God rest his soul.

I'm going to move this to international politics (foreign affairs).