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alj harem: Chai Na wa for Nigeria

what the hell is the difference between an Idoma man and an Igbo man

Una go divide till kingdom come.

Every dot very group wants to be an ethnic group, wants to be a whole Nation on his own.

Dumb, Nigerians indeed

Very soon, Idoma and Igala too would break into fractions. Each declaring her own ethnic Nation

The Idoma are said to share words and certain customs with the Igbo people. For example, 'okolobia' and 'ada' both mean 'young man' and 'first daughter' in Idoma and Igbo, but I digress...

I once read some Nri mythology that said that the son of Eri (the supposed father of the Umueri people), Nri Ifikuanim, had a son (Onoja) who went on to found the kingdom of the Igala somewhere in modern-day Kogi state. I don't know how true this is, though.

Anyway let's get back to whether or not the Igala see themselves as Yoruba.

achi4u: nwanne mmadu! okemmadu!!
Ji si è ike na asuru anyi ma na n'edekwara igbo-izugbe.

udo diri gi

Nwanna, nsogbu adighi. Udo dirikwa gi.

Ivuaku (Aro) - a future of wealth

Okoro (Aro) - a male born on Orie market day

Ogbondah (Ikwerre) - the father's namesake

Odunnu: Igala in Anambra? Really?! Thats a brand new one.

They are said to form 2 percent of the population in Anambra. They reside on the east bank of the Niger in the extreme north west of Anambra.

My people, let's revive this beautiful thread. There are many more names that remain. let's think of them lest we forget them.

iHustle: Yeah, Onitsha was founded by Edos and the Obi of Onitsha and many Onitsha people are edoid.

Woah, easy there...tọ nmeji o.

This simple statement you made is highly flammable and has been disucussed in many threads. You should keep the topic of discussion on whether or not the Edo see themselves as Yoruba instead of making such statements.

ifyalways: Odumchi,this issue have been overflogged here kama taa wu sunday ya mere,aga m eji obi sunday school tinye onu na okwu gi.lol

N'uche ke m,o bu oke na oru ezi nne na nna obula igba mbo na asuru ma na akuziri umu ha nile asusu Igbo n'ulo.Umu gi nwere ike isu french,bekee na ihe obula masiri ha n'ulo akwukwo mana n'ulo,nani Igbo.N'ulo m,nani Igbo ka anyi na asu ma jirikwa na akpa nkata.Na lagos ebe a,a hula m umuaka aka Igbo na anaghi asu ma o bu anu Igbo.Nke ka njo bu na even bekee owu ha amaghi asu.I juo ha,osisa ha bu "i no dey speak Igbo,na only English i sabi speak" . . .a maghim mgbe pidgin nwuru anwu ji gho English.At the end of the day,ha anwuru usu;Igbo ha asughi,bekke ha a maghi.

Nne na nna teta nu na ura!

Ify i kwuola ka dimkpa nwanyi. Ihe mere m'ji si ka m'kwuo ihe a bu maka ubochi gara aga, onwe nzuko m'gara. Na ebe anhu m'gara, ahughim ndi ukem na asu Igbo yana na umuaka no ebe anhu, otutu ha anaghi anu Igbo o ka foro nke isu ya asu. Ihe gbakaisirim azu bu mgbe okenye nwanyi otu obu si nwanta na ya kwachie uzo. Nwanta obu mewe "eh?" "eh?" tutu nwanyi anhu bia si ya "go and close the door" ya ga mechie ya.

Ihe m'huru abali anhu kpasurum iwe. Nke kakwa njo bu na ndi muru yam nwanta obu nokwahu na ebe anhu na akpagari na Igbo. O ihe mere m'ji si na m'ga ederiri maka ihe a na Nairaland ka ndi ozo hukwaya.

Thread whisked away to the politics section.

Ndeewo nu,

Onwere ihe m'nobe na eche gbasara threadi a. Uchem bu ka anyi nwere ohere a anyi nwere na threadi a were kpa uka di mkpa gbasara anyi bu Ndi Igo o bughi ka anyi nwere ebe a mee ebe nzuko nmanma maka ebe nzuko Ndi Igbo juru eju na Nairalandi a.

Ihe mbu m'choro ikpa bu maka otu umuruma anyi si amuta asusu anyi buni Igbo. Unuwa no na ala Bekee, unu ana asukwara umu aka unu Igbo otu okwesir? Unuwa no kwa na Naijiria anyi, unu ana asukwara umuruma unu okwu a unu na asu ebe a?

Obasi di na elu kpuchita anyi butakwara anyi oganiru na aha Jeso.

Umu Igbo,

Keduzi ihe anyi ji na akpa na bekee? Gini mere anyi ma eji okwu bekee akpa? O bu ka ndi ozo genara anyi okwu?

Biko nu, unu bia ka anyi kpokata isi chee maka oganiru anyi. Kee onye unu si kachasi nma di na obodo anyi? Yana kee ka anyi si eme ka o wiwara ndi ozo?

Another Okija: 2015 is the year of Jonathan..

Fresh Breeze 2015...


Ummuna 2019.. (candidate unknown.. But lord willing it wouldn't be Rochas and his Tanker of a wife..

And moreover, the Igbo president will have to be proper Igbo not Imo or Abia.. Anambra or no place else..

Igiri ana apu gi?

13volts: We had a very long discussion on this issue in office today. England as a country is not known to have any mineral resources, I hardy see any manufactured product MADE IN ENGLAND despite the fact that they are our colonial master. The only major investment in Nigeria that is traced to England is BP.

My questions are;
1. Why do we have less poor people in England compared to America.
2. Without a huge manufacturing base like in America, China, Germany or Japan. How do the British manage to sustain a vibrant economy and at the same time avoid the recession ravaging Europe and America?
3. We have many blacks in England, they hardy made their presence known globally except in the EPL. Most noticeable black personalities in the world are from America, in music, movies, sport and what have you. Are the blacks in England marginalized or what? why are they not making waves as their counterparts in America?

There are a lot of things that affect the relative prosperity of both the Uk and the US. However, I think it's stretching the bar to say that England is mpre developed than America. First of all, by "England" do you mean England the kingdom or the United Kingdom the nation?

I'll assume that you're referring to the UK.

You're first question:

13volts: Why do we have less poor people in England compared to America

Well, population is a factor. The US (300 mllion plus people) has about five times the population of the UK (around 60 million people), so definately if poverty is 2% in America, it would amount to a greater amount of people than 2% in the UK.

Maybe you should ask about the poverty to population ratio in these countries.

Second question:

13volts: Without a huge manufacturing base like in America, China, Germany or Japan. How do the British manage to sustain a vibrant economy and at the same time avoid the recession ravaging Europe and America?

The United States does not have a huge manufacturing base. Its economy is based solidly on services. The recession that affected (and is still affecting) Europe and America was most apparent in mainland Europe since most of the continent used the Euro while the UK had the pound.

Third question:

13volts: 3. We have many blacks in England, they hardy made their presence known globally except in the EPL. Most noticeable black personalities in the world are from America, in music, movies, sport and what have you. Are the blacks in England marginalized or what? why are they not making waves as their counterparts in America?

Again, this is a question of population. America has roughly 30 million blacks which is half of the UK's population. There are more blacks in America therefore, their impact on their nation is definately more noticeable than those of the UK. Besides, America has its own native population of blacks, whereas the British blacks are mostly African or West Indian.

youngies: Dalu Odumchi,
I guess this your dialect is Aro? I can rarely decipher it.

Still waiting for central Igbo translation

Yes, it is. Good luck with your search, though.

abouzaid: @lucky gurl, nwanne mụ i dara nke a, ho ha. Ụmụ azi a na agba mbọ akpata ego fa kedu ife ina ako fa ọnụ maka na fa eje rọ akwụkwọ? I ma rọ na ndị ofe mmana ga ebido kpọba anyị iyi maka ife a i kwụrụ? Nwanne m let me tell u the truth as a trained economist, the highest form of unemployment in nigeria is graduate unemployment according to the central bank office of statistics. Formal Education is overrated and this young boys have made fortunes by satisfying real wants that ppl are willing to pay for and deserve to be commended for it. That they can't speak another mans language well is nothing to be insulted about. Honestly i value ability over certificates and grammar. Also for ur information, know it that the cbn have always listed anambra as the state with the least poverty rate in nigeria while ekiti that have the highest number of professors in nigeria is the second poorest state in nigeria, compare and contrast

Nwanna, Igbo gi mara nma makaisia onwe ya na nma. Ka i si na asu okwu ndi Onicha di egwu. Aka'm kwuru n'elu na ebe i nọ.

Nigeria has politicians but where are the statesmen?

Dowry is not consistent within an ethnicity. For example, among the Igbo, bride price fluxuates as you go from community to community. There are also factors that affect dowry such as; wealth, community regulations, and the local tradition.

In some towns (in Igboland), bride prices have been fixed by the community members in order to make marriage more affordable. Whereas, in others, it may depend solely on the negotiations/agreement reached with a bride's family.

In some places, the bride prices are high for ceremonious reasons but are eventually reduced within the marriage ceremony. Off course, this dowry excludes the cost of other parts of the marriage itself...

One_Naira: No I was not referring to you. It was an error of my fault. I've fixed it.

On the second, I agree. With that type of attitude, the future of Igbo people as in total would always remain shattered. Thank you and onlytruth for providing hope that such attitude is not a common policy among SE. Though I do not want to put him on blast but I hope one day Abagworo realizes it better united than divided.

and onlytruth
I would email you. Thank you for invite

No problem. And yes, there is still hope for us.

If I may ask, where are you from? I'm guessing you're a Deltan.

Onlytruth: Odum, ederem gi email

Nsogbu adighi.

One_Naira: This is the worst thing I've read on this forum thus far. I wonder what created all this animosity between SE Igbo and the rest of us. SMH!!! While SS Igbo think of and work on improving Igbo as in total without considering anything even though once in a while SE Igbo insult us with easy because of few individuals and also because of those few individuals, FEW INDIVIDUALS, SE would rather draw a wedge from SS Igbo until we seek "affiliation". fake and real igbo policy abi? Yet una still wonder why there is this division among the community. Sometimes when I read stuff in this forum, I can view what motivated that buffoon named Emeka Esogbue to write this idiotic article.

I don't know what is more painful to watch? Idiots not from our community speaking either on anioma, onitsha and ikwerre community on this forum all the time or the fact the SE Igbo listen to those 1diot and rather cast themselves away from their own brother because of those 1diots. Continue una self-destruction as long as it makes una happy!!!

Are you referring to me in the bolded?

Anyway, there is no animosity (atleast which I have percieved) between the South Eastern and South Southern Igbo. These terms were not even in existence thiry years ago so they can't be at the heart of any problem.

The only thing that I see is that the Igbo peoples are divided politically; the bulk of the Igbo live in the five South Eastern states while the remainder are scattered in other states. Today, the Igbo (generally) are trying to look past these artificial borders to progress and are attempting to pave one political road for all Igbo to tread, wether South Eastern or South Southern. However, attitudes like that of the Ikwerre and that of Abagworo make this especially difficult.

youngies: Biko nu umu Igbo: HELP!!!

A choro m a direct Igbo translation of "I miss you"

Dalu nu

I don't know the Central Igbo translation but, in my dialect, "I miss you" is "I mere'm aka nkujo".

@Everyone
Kee ka unu mere?

ChinenyeN: It is now that you have finally begun to realize what my "premise" has been this entire time. It was never about the "sub-groups", but about the union itself. This union is becoming increasingly unattractive, the longer things go unfixed. As a consequence, it shouldn't be difficult to imagine a people's (I'm done with the words sub-group and clan) desire to opt-out and remain opted out. After all, none are under any obligation what so ever to remain, because as I stated earlier, this union is born from convenience and politics. If things continue to be politically inconvenient, then a people's disassociation should not come as a surprise.

As for what a person's puprose should be; there is no such thing as purpose in this context. If you want to fix what has remained unfixed, then you do so. If you feel so strongly about this outsider-sponsored amalgam, then you do something about it. Do what you can to counteract the current state of unattractiveness. Here, there is no we or our. A koruora oko ngwere ya akuruo isi. If you (or anyone else) know(s) what you need to do to make this union more attractive to peoples (i.e. politically conveinent), then do so. Don't expect disgruntled collective people to put so much effort into something they have little to no belief in.


Nothing hit home, other than the unfitting comparison you decided to make between Igbo and Ngwa.

I don't think you're aware of the pressures and forces that have swelled up against the Ndi Igbo in Nigeria. If things are difficult for us now how much more will they be if we were to divide?

No confederation is perfect, therefore there will always be problems that arise. However, these things should be discussed and solved. I also believe, that it is our duty (as Igbo sons and daughters) to work for the betterment of out peoples because ultimately all of these things affect us. There is no way that anyone can fully declare themself "independent" because what affects one will, in one way another, affect the other.

The Ikwerre, in this case, decided to disassociate themselves from the Igbo; hoping that their problems would be solved. However, they can't be farther from the truth. As long as we are in this Nigeria, the problems plaguing the Igbo will continue to plague them (to some degree) in greater magnitude.

I hope that, even if you don't agree, you will realize that external pressures cause internal changes. One last analogy I'll give is the formation of Germany. The Germans are, in many ways, like the Igbo. They all speak variations of German, practice similar cultures, and are interconnected politically. Now, prior to the formation of Germany in 1870, the German states existed independently of one another just like the Igbo in the same era. However, the rise of their neighbors (namely France and Poland) caused them to unite politically in order to protect their own sovereignty. In this union, there were definatley problems since certain German groups felt marginalised while others dominated (Prussia). Over the centuries, with continuous dialogue and legislation, most these problems were solved.

This union did not force any of these individual German groups to compromise their culture or interests. Rather, they pooled their population, resources, and energy in order to work for their common good. Today they form the most populous nation in Central Europe (just like the Igbo do in Eastern Nigeria). The Igbo situation is no different and we must see ourselves as capable of doing the same. It doesn't help to be uninterested or to be disenfranchised with each other when we know the consequences.

My point in all this is that any people that decide to completely isolate themselves from their counterparts are setting themsleves on the path to destruction (politically). The Ikwerre (some of them) took it a step further by attemtping to twist and derrange history to a point where the truth would be forever hidden amid fallacy and daydreams, and it seems that their main organization (Ogbakor Ikwerre) doesn't give a hoot.

Obiagu1: Bini, Esan, and Etsako are under Edo while Urhobo and Isoko are under Urhobo. I was surprised at the split but it was late as the poll has started.

Urhobo and Isoko are Edoid languages so they are part of the Edo nation. If I had united Bini and Esan, I might've as well combined them with Urhobo and Isoko. These peoples are not usually combined as one ethnic group but they all fall under the same language group.

I wish Physics would elaborate on this.

Ngwakwe: What kind of logical/algebraic manipulation is this calculator using:
18 Votes = 2% approx
12 Votes = 1% approx
27 Votes = 4% approx

then 289(Y) - 282(I) = 7; how come 7 Votes = 2% approx

Please can somebody calculate how many votes equal 1% in real number (not integer)

Anything from 0.5 to 1.4 was counted as one while anything from 1.5 to 2.4 was counted as two.

The way Fulani culture seems as if it has never changed since pre-colonial times is amazing.

onyinye2: Unu niile, ka Chukwu gozie gi.
A na'm ekele unu niile.
lol long time long time.
I'm so proud you guys kept this thread going.I just wanted to talk to you guys one more time
A na'm engaged
I have been practicing my igbo lol I speak waaaaaaay better than I can write. Even if I'm typing in all english
I miss you guys alot
Aunty Ify, Chinenye, Mortiple, Agaba, Romeo, Jenny, Toshman,Enchelon,

Ndeewooo!
Welcome back

ChinenyeN: I see you attempted to expand my "principle" to Ngwa, in order to prove a point. Enyi, this your attempt to expand whatever "principle" does not work. This "sub-group" issue cannot translate the same from "Igbo" to Ngwa, because the contexts between the two are not the same, or are you unaware of that? Anyway, we'll leave Ngwa out of this, to avoid you beginning something that you do not know. We will focus only on this "Igbo" context, and we will speak in relation to this "Igbo" context.

Now, reading your entire post, it seems to me that you did not understand my own post very well (either that, or you did not read it well). In your latest response, you opened up with the question What is "being in your own environment"?, which I can only assume is your reaction to the below:


If it happens that the basis of your response to me is the above quote, then I think it would be in our collective best interests for you to reread my post. That way, we can both be on the same page. Besides, if you reread my post, you might just come to find out that you misjudged my "attitude".

I've re-read your post and rom my inference, it seems as if you have declared that the negatives of the Igbo union outweigh the fruits. I personally believe that the fact that Ndi Igbo are still standing today should be attested to this our political union. Imagine what would've happened if the Igbo were disenfranchised with each other during the pogroms of the 60s or during the war? How then would we have made a collective response (Biafra)?

You also said:

ChinenyeN: If you want for it to be maintained, then search for solutions which will make it politically convenient for us "sub-groups" (ugh) to continue to associate

I'm not saying that the Igbo ethnic group's current position is perfect. I perfectly agree with you that there are some things thatneed fixing within this political structure. But, don't you think this is what you and I should be doing? Shouldn't our purpose be to find ways in which we can help ourselves and our nighbors?

Btw, I only brought up the Ngwa to make a comparison because I knew it would hit home. Anyway, like you requested, I'll drop the Ngwa topic.

ekt_bear: You own a copyright on census polling?

You must be a very wealthy man then, in that case

I'm only joking. We can always collaborate to make next year's if you like.

ekt_bear: Actually, next year, it will be a Yoruba man (me) who will do the poll, Odumchi.

Lol, abi na to steal my work? I've already copyrighted this. Where is your license?

ekt_bear: Odumchi, it prefers that some would be happier if rather than listing their ethnicity, you list their state..

I will definately add either a state by state census or a geo-political census next year.

ezotik: just curious, why did u split edo into groups? you even went as far as to split bini and esan but u joined ibibio/efik/annang as one?

so, since u are igbo, if u could go as far as splitting bini and esan why didn't u do same with igbo? i can't see ukwani, ika, ikwerre, ngwa. oh, i get it. ika and ngwa na one but bini and esan is not.

abeg carry ur yeye polls dey go with ur divisive method. and i didn't bother voting anyway.

The Edo people have established themsleves as distinct ethnicities. The Esan, Etsako, Urhobo, Bini, and Isoko are all different ethnicities but they form the Edo nation.

The Akwa/Cross groups are really one ethnicity. For the most part their languages are mutually intelligible, their cultures are very similar, and they are comfortable with the idea of being lumped together.

Please, let's not get into this debate. Just accept the results and stop trying to see a bad meaning behind whatever people do.