₦airaland Forum

afam4eva: Nka bu ezigbo alu.

nedu210: @ọdumchi, nwa nnaa kedu kwan ihe meru eji wepu tredia na ọnọdu nkwusị ike nke ọdibu na mbu?
Biko gbaa mbọ ka i weya chia gha azu na ebe ọdịbu mbu, maka achọrụ'm gha nke ukwuu tupu'm afụ gha, na otu aka, amakwa'm na ọtụtụ umu igbo gana achọkwa gha na ọnọdu gha.
Maka websiti ahu unu weputara, ekene dịrị unu, gha gazia lu umu igbo.

ogugua88: After you've blessed him, I can't correct him for misunderstanding me just as you did earlier. Fine.

The question is are YOU interested in all of Nigeria's well-being? Yes, Igboland is on fire, but so is the nation. Nigeria is not our neighbor. It is our home and it encompasses several groups and regions, including Igboland. I'm not betraying loyalties when I say that Nigeria can use the efforts of all Nigerians, including fellow Igbos. All I've suggested is for Igbos to multitask. If you and the rest can agree to that, then I will assist Eze Ndi Igbo Nairaland Parliamentary Office wherever they wish me to to the best of my ability. If you can't, then just as you stated, you don't need me here.

Onlytruth: Odum,

Inwetara ozi m zigara gi?

One_Naira: If this is because of me, disregard I, go ahead and speak only Igbo. If anything I support it. I should be able to keep up along as the sentences as short as yeske reply to you as oppose to face reply to onlytruth. It might take me a very long time to interpret what each person says if its as long as face but i'm okay with it. I'm watching this thread descend to many Igbo hating bigots coming onto this thread to use ogugua words to try and take jab at Igbo and onlytruth while at the same time pretending to be sincere and supporting. In my opinion, you guys should have started this whole parliamentary office thing in Igbo.

One_Naira: Let me get this correctly ogugua from your perspective you see your home burning, your neighbors home burning and your far down the street neighbors home burning, rather than putting out the fire in your house first, you wish to disregard your home and put out the fire in your neighbor’s house first in hopes they will help you put out your home even though there is no guarantee they will do such a thing neither was there behaviors from them in the past that assures you they will do such a thing. In actuality, there behavior in the past assures you they will do the opposite. I am sorry if you wonder why other Igbo refuse to accept your perspective, your way is just destructive for our community and zik taught us this from experience. I am inclined to support every Igbo on this thread and jump on Sam ikenna words "this is Igbo 2.0. We f2king wised up".

The fact you are telling Igbo people to leave Igbo land and ignore the development of the region but focus nationally rather tell us you haven't been back home for a very long time. I am sorry to say this but can you please inform us what development in Igbo land that did not come from Igbo people's pocket as a community? What federal developments have been made to any state in Igbo land and I'm including anioma to this? Sometimes some of the development came out of the governors own pocket (mind you Igbo governors are corrupt as f2k) Let us look at things shall we. The Enugu state airport, though supposed to come out of the FG pocket came out of Enugu state indigenous and other Igbos pocket. Recently I learned the international section, though the FG is taking credit for it is, is actual a private investment. For years now, Igbo people as a community have asked for one thing only, though they are adding more recently, but one thing remains a huge request and that is the remodeling of Niger bridge and till this day such request have not been granted. I bet you my entire life savings that if the bridge ever gets remodeled it will probably come from an Igbo businessperson pocket. Quote me on this. If we follow your way, Igbo land would be nothing but a village even Somalia would be ahead. Like the members, Sam Ikenna, ACM10, Odumchi, etc said well technically it's a summary of what they said, "This is a country where is do me, I do you and everybody is looking out for their damn self and their community, ignoring that fact is a dangerous move for our people". That is why Onlytruth believe would go far in Igbo land because he's thinking for the people. Some of his opinions I've gathered for now are international airport for Igbo land, a seaport, Niger-bridge remodeling, etc. To your average Igbo this is what we need that our politicians are too stup1d to see. I cannot speak on the international airport thing but definitely, the seaport is needed. Take this from a son of a trader who knows a lot of traders, I can honestly tell you right now I've lost count how many Igbo businessmen we knew personally (including my father's ex-business partner) that migrated their shops and business to Lagos simply because they are tired of spending more money than they are making from the back and forth movement of goods from Lagos to east(shipping it from aboard cost money, collecting it from port cost money and moving it from Lagos to east cost money plus the plane ticket to visit Nigeria to make sure your business is good cost money). Nah this is why only truth opinions would gather more support.

Another thing I noticed that I’m trying to interpret: I don't get why you wish Igbo should have protested for oil subsidy when they were busy worry themselves over the life of their people being killed up north and protesting over it. I'm trying to understand where you are coming from? From your perspective, we should have disregarded the life of our own people and worry about oil? is that we you were trying to say? If so SMH. If not, elaborate.

Lastly, Onlytruth did not act superior to you. I cannot read or write in Igbo. If you check my listing, you'll never see me in an Igbo speaking only thread and if I do write in Igbo is only a few sentence and half of the time it's repentance of each other. I'm telling you this because I've been told many times both online and off to keep quiet from Igbo affairs simply because of that, sometimes speaking the language saves me but majority of the time it does not. It is has nothing to do with "I'm more Igbo than you" but instead its saying "you are losing your culture and probably aren't in tuned with what going on back home therefore you would probably gear the community wrongly with your input". If you do not know the meaning, just ask next time rather than getting emotional. Every person knows Igbo people saying aren't always straight forward there is always a deep meaning majority of the time. I personally never took it as you took it; I see it as a motivation, I am learning how to write Igbo now because of it and in the near future, reading Igbo but then again everyone is different.

ChinenyeN: I think you may have some things mixed up. Isuama was not man-made. According to Colombia Univeristy and it's Igbo Studies department, Isuama became the standard dialect of emancipated Igbo slaves in Sierra Leone. The Isu/Isuama represented the largest portion of the emancipated Igbo slave population in Sierra Leone. So it is not surprising that most of the early linguistic Igbo studies centered around them and their speech form. The claim (or better yet, assumption) of 'purest dialect', made by Crowther (I believe), was likely due to the fact that most Sierra Leone Igbo were Isuama and Isuama had gained standardization there. He believed it to be the purest and I think he also claimed it would be the most intelligble. His visit to Nigeria showed him otherwise though. Isuama was soon abandoned after Crowther's death. The difference between Isu/Isuama and traditional northern/western speech forms has nothing to do with vocabulary supplied by non-Isu.

abouzaid: @ALL, BIKO OBURU NA UNU AGA ASỤ IGBO EBE A, UNU EMECHIE UNU. KEDU KA NDỊ OFE MMANỤ GA ESI ADO GHACHI IFE ANYỊ NA EME EBEA AZỤ MAKA NA ANYỊ NA AZỤ OYIBO? IGWE EZE EZIOKWU BIKO TIE IWU KA OBU SO IGBO KA AGA NA AZỤ EBE A.

ebere1712: Ebe a awugi ebe anyi ga emeli ihe a. Ndi mba ozo abiala, bute "Nigerian factor" na e' mebi ihe nile bia ebe a. Ha a' chogi i' mepe nke ha, ma ha choro ka anyi e me kwala nke anyi. Anyi ga acho ebe ozo me ihe a. Ndi Igbo kwenu.

shymmex: It's funny how the Odumchi guy (who's supposed to be a mod by the way) thinks the thread is exclusively for Igbos... The last time I checked, this is NL - and everyone is allowed to post a comment.

Odumchi, you already turned the culture section into biafra - people like you are the most dangerous Igbos out there; the type of Igbos that shouldn't be allowed near any sit of power in Nigeria..

I put it to you, Odumchi - that you're a snake, and an Igbo supremacist.. Even Onlytruth and Bashr8 are not as bigoted as you.

Dudu_Negro: Odumchi,

Based on your last response, it would follow naturally then to support the claim by people who, though they speak Igbo, say they are not culturally and customarily of Igbo stock.

Dudu_Negro: Andre,

Kingdoms are expensive to run. This is why the people are taxed by their Kings. To double or triple the tax and wealth coming to the throne, a King will expand territory and gain new tributaries. Why did these Igbo Kings fold up their thrones than expand their kingdom?

manny4life: ^^^
Oliver Twist.


@Odumchi, VERY FUNNY.

isale_gan2: Odumchi,

Good thread, good skills; A for effort.

dasparrow: I just love this thread. Very funny.

firestar: Me two!

jamace: Please sir, I want some more.

Gbawe: I was wondering how long before we saw the usual tirade about everyone hating you and plotting your downfall. Some of you should get over yourselves and stop the unreasonable display of unsubstantiated paranoia and siege mentality that inversely seek to make other monsters . Most young folks I know are just concerned with getting the best out of life in this talent-driven modern era and have no time hating anyone. In fact it is news to most of them to come here and read that they automatically hate others from different ethnic groups.

Certainly, if you go around saying everyone hates you then you are inviting alienation and disdain upon yourselves.

odumchi: You misunderstood what I said . No one is propogating any hatred; the fact that I'm here discussing this with you is detracting from the purpose of this thread and is therefore seeking the ruin of this thread. Here is the purpose of this thread as was stated in the first page:

"In furtherance of the objective of strengthening the bonds between brothers, and re-positioning our unique ethnic group in the midst of the chaotic scenes from the larger Nigeria, a cultural rebirth and awareness is imperative. This Office -Eze Ndi Igbo NL Parliamentary Office - is therefore set-up for Ndi Igbo, her friends, and allies to suggest ways and manners we can advance our political and economic relationship for mutual benefits."

Me discussing this with you isn't fulfilling any of those things stated above and is just mere derailment. I won't be discussing this with you any longer.

odumchi: The thing that baffles me is why this why we are wasting time and energy attemtping to combat individuals who are evidently seeking our ruin.

bayooooooo: You need to change this mentality that the world is against you. You need to build bridges. Stop propogating heatred.

ogugua88: Charity may begin at home, but I don't see that as a reason to cookie-cut around national issues. That's all I've been trying to say. I have never said that I am against Igbos. How can I be when I'm Igbo myself? What I'm against is Igbos isolating themselves and being vocal only when issues concerning them arise. Igbos should be able to multitask. Isolationism doesn't get anyone far. Whether Igbos like it or not, they are Nigerians. Along with Igbo problems are Nigerian problems for which we also need to solve.

Maybe you, personally, care about Nigerian issues as well. I'm glad you do. What I have seen from some others, however, is separatism. If it wasn't apparent, then I wouldn't have mentioned.

I see the point you made in regards to the massacre in the North. However, we have been down this road before. I don't want another civil war. I don't think anyone does. Igbo Isolationism only brings attention to Igbos. The US tried to play that game and Japan attacked them, dragging the US into World War II. There may be some benefits of restructuring another Igboland, but I feel the repercussions that may follow outweigh them. Igbos cannot do it alone.

I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.

Ileke-IdI:
And they said Igbos have no king

Abagworo: I've tried to study the distinctness in the language because I'm good in languages and discovered that they seem more diverse than other Igbo groups in almost everything but I noticed the use of "ru" or "du" for the central Igbo "di" in many of their dialects. "O ruhu nma" or "O duhu nma" means "it is not good". There exists the use of "sh" for "s" in Isuama. Head is "ishi" instead of "isi" while thief is "Onye oshi" instead of "Onye osi".

alpacaem: Hi,
I'm the orginal poster. So happy it's still going strong.
My husband and I named our son (born in 2011) Jonas chineyerugo.
And we're now expecting a little girl, so I'm after girl Igbo suggestions.
I'd like something traditional but not over used - if that's possible. Lol

ogugua88: I agree with this last bit. I don't know what "The Igbo Cause" is. Nigeria is a mess in its entirety. I don't know how they find time or opportunity to focus on "The Igbo Cause". It's embarrassing that there are people who are still calling themselves Biafrans, who are still fighting for a(n) Biafran/Igbo cause, who can't put their vendettas aside to deal with a much bigger problem. They may think Igbos are the best tribe or have their own agenda, but they still come from Nigeria, one of the most unstable, feared nations not only in the continent, but in the world. Some priorities need to be straightened.

Odenigbo Aroli: You are mocking an Nri priest abi; Ekwekwana kam jeelu gi ije alusi!!

Odenigbo Aroli: I was wrong; My eyes was playing tricks on me. Thats Idenmili Igbo....I was lazy. I was actually reading the Izugbe one. Sorry guys.

Odenigbo Aroli: I noticed that too and that is definitely not Idenmili Igbo; Both of the materials are written in Izugbe. I think Achebe is getting too old
That "Achebes Igbo"(the one used in the material) is definitely not Ogidi Igbo who we share boarders with.

Obiagu1: Thanks for the link. I just read the first page. They seem very much the same with the usual differences "ro for ghi", "f for h", "l for r" and occasional word variations.

Very surprising that Dr. Frances W. Pritchett could write in such a perfect standard Igbo.

ChinenyeN: I read the two documents. There are a number of things in those documents that I couldn't understand; lexicon that I'm not familiar with, and in my understanding, if the first document is actual native Idinmilli, then Izugbe lexicon very much mirrors Anambra.